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OldHickory
April 15th, 2009, 4:59 pm
http://hotair.com/archives/2009/04/15/unreal-cnn-reporter-openly-contemptuous-of-tea-parties/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6G3fvNhdoc0

A tour de force of bias via TV Newser (http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/cnn/cnn_reporter_at_chicago_tea_party_its_anticnn_sinc e_this_is_highly_promoted_by_the_rightwing_conserv ative_network_fox_114141.asp), from her sarcasm to her Fox-bashing to her badgering a guy who’ll be paying off Obama’s monstrous deficits (http://blog.heritage.org/2009/03/24/bush-deficit-vs-obama-deficit-in-pictures/) for decades about why he isn’t satisfied with a $400 tax break this year. The title (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6G3fvNhdoc0) of the clip is “CNN Reporter Roughed Up at Chicago Tea-Party,” which, as you’ll see, is a transparent lie unless you consider the crowd yelling at her to stop cutting off the people she’s interviewing as “rough.” But that’s par for the course for the narrative being organized here: A nasty, violent, ignorant crowd, all doing the bidding of CNN’s sinister competitor. Stay classy, Turnerites.

croupier101
April 15th, 2009, 5:00 pm
How did the person being interviewed answer the question about actually getting a tax cut from 2008?

Mojotiger
April 15th, 2009, 5:01 pm
How did the person being interviewed answer the question about actually getting a tax cut from 2008?

Some people look past the present. Weird I know.

croupier101
April 15th, 2009, 5:02 pm
Some people look past the present. Weird I know.

which future tax increase was the person being interviewed upset about?

Miss America
April 15th, 2009, 5:03 pm
Liberals can't handle opposing view points.

upsetmom
April 15th, 2009, 5:03 pm
the tea parties are about crazy spending, not a $14 tax cut that isn't really a cut -

Long Island Bob
April 15th, 2009, 5:05 pm
wow she badgers him and changes the subject before he can spit out a single sentence.

then make HER point about how great the stimulus package is and moves on . . .

Mojotiger
April 15th, 2009, 5:06 pm
which future tax increase was the person being interviewed upset about?

Can't watch the video at work, but if I had to guess, it would be the Bush tax cuts expiring. Not to mention that there is already talk of ending Obama's tax cut in next year's budget. Gotta pay for this crap somehow.

OldHickory
April 15th, 2009, 5:07 pm
These are the type of reporters CNN employs. WOW

croupier101
April 15th, 2009, 5:08 pm
the tea parties are about crazy spending, not a $14 tax cut that isn't really a cut -

They are about spending? TEA Party. Taxed Enough Already held on Tax Day is about spending?

cyph3r7
April 15th, 2009, 5:10 pm
These are the type of reporters CNN employs. WOW

yeah I have to say I am a little shocked also. And the follow up comments by the other journalist saying this is a "prime example" of what they are seeing.

Wow indeed

zantax
April 15th, 2009, 5:11 pm
They are about spending? TEA Party. Taxed Enough Already held on Tax Day is about spending?


Psst, giant increases in government spending will generally translate to giant tax increases, inflation or debt service or a combination of the three, so yeah.

oldandtired
April 15th, 2009, 5:11 pm
which future tax increase was the person being interviewed upset about?

Croupier...this is a thread about an obviously biased reporter who is using her control of the mic as a tool to have the people hear what SHE wants them to hear.

It is not about whether or not a person has a valid complaint about tax increases or decreases.

cyph3r7
April 15th, 2009, 5:11 pm
They are about spending? TEA Party. Taxed Enough Already held on Tax Day is about spending?

are you serious Croup? How do you think that spending will be paid for?

Hell let's start easy, how is anything the government does or spends funded?

Lee Kington
April 15th, 2009, 5:11 pm
WOW !! Who was that ignorant had reporter?

Mojotiger
April 15th, 2009, 5:13 pm
are you serious Croup? How do you think that spending will be paid for?

Hell let's start easy, how is anything the government does or spends funded?

The talking point of the day seems to be that your taxes are actually lower TODAY than they were under Bush. No forward thinking allowed!

ModerateVoice
April 15th, 2009, 5:13 pm
Just saw the video...wow, that reporter needs to deal with some rage issues. She's angry before she even starts speaking at the beginning of the clip.

Ming
April 15th, 2009, 5:14 pm
I thought that the MSM wasn't going to cover the tea parties. :eek:

croupier101
April 15th, 2009, 5:14 pm
Croupier...this is a thread about an obviously biased reporter who is using her control of the mic as a tool to have the people hear what SHE wants them to hear.

It is not about whether or not a person has a valid complaint about tax increases or decreases.

oh sorry, yes the reporter was really rude.

zantax
April 15th, 2009, 5:14 pm
Gee, what do lower taxes have to do with liberty she asks, cracks me up. Umm, hello communist reporter, slaving away for the government for almost half the year is not exactly freedom.

Lee Kington
April 15th, 2009, 5:15 pm
Just saw the video...wow, that reporter needs to deal with some rage issues. She's angry before she even starts speaking at the beginning of the clip. Clearly a member of Obama's Media KGB and employed by his Ministry of Propaganda.

shrek
April 15th, 2009, 5:15 pm
Oh my gosh, I see what you mean she really really was biased.

She started to yell at the guy. And then when rebuffed she said that this was obviously a hostile crowd and not good family viewing but what one should expect since it was sponsored by FNC?

Oh what hog huey.

oldandtired
April 15th, 2009, 5:15 pm
Just saw the video...wow, that reporter needs to deal with some rage issues. She's angry before she even starts speaking at the beginning of the clip.

Even worse was the anchor who seemed to concur with the reporter...and implied that the participants were unruly.

This is by far the most obvious media bias I have ever witnessed.

She did not report on what she saw and heard...SHE MADE the news what she wanted it to be.

Very scary.

Eagles? Any comment? Even you should be ashamed of her actions.

Lee Kington
April 15th, 2009, 5:16 pm
Gee, what do lower taxes have to do with liberty she asks, cracks me up. One of the reasons why I called her an ignorant hag.

cyph3r7
April 15th, 2009, 5:16 pm
The talking point of the day seems to be that your taxes are actually lower TODAY than they were under Bush. No forward thinking allowed!

I keep hearing that but this year for the first time ever I ended up paying federal taxes. I usually overpay or try to come close just to be safe. Nothing changed from last year to this year yet instead of a $4000 refund (house and kids) I got hit with owing $2000. A $6000 swing.

cyph3r7
April 15th, 2009, 5:18 pm
I thought that the MSM wasn't going to cover the tea parties. :eek:

troll much?

what was that you were asking, no demanding, about proof of the media's contempt for the Tea Parties in my other thread?

croupier101
April 15th, 2009, 5:18 pm
are you serious Croup? How do you think that spending will be paid for?
Well, lets see. Under Reagan, we borrowed the money to pay for the increase in spending. Under Bush 1, we borrowed the money to pay for the increase in spending. Under Clinton, the strong economy generated high tax revenues above what we owed so parts of the debt was paid. Under Bush 2, we borrowed the money to pay for the increase in spending. Under Obama, we are borrowing the money to pay for the increase in spending and the Clinton tax rates are being put back.

Hell let's start easy, how is anything the government does or spends funded?

Either through tax revenue or borrowed cash.

goeagles
April 15th, 2009, 5:18 pm
http://hotair.com/archives/2009/04/15/unreal-cnn-reporter-openly-contemptuous-of-tea-parties/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6G3fvNhdoc0

A tour de force of bias via TV Newser (http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/cnn/cnn_reporter_at_chicago_tea_party_its_anticnn_sinc e_this_is_highly_promoted_by_the_rightwing_conserv ative_network_fox_114141.asp), from her sarcasm to her Fox-bashing to her badgering a guy who’ll be paying off Obama’s monstrous deficits (http://blog.heritage.org/2009/03/24/bush-deficit-vs-obama-deficit-in-pictures/) for decades about why he isn’t satisfied with a $400 tax break this year. The title (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6G3fvNhdoc0) of the clip is “CNN Reporter Roughed Up at Chicago Tea-Party,” which, as you’ll see, is a transparent lie unless you consider the crowd yelling at her to stop cutting off the people she’s interviewing as “rough.” But that’s par for the course for the narrative being organized here: A nasty, violent, ignorant crowd, all doing the bidding of CNN’s sinister competitor. Stay classy, Turnerites.
She encounted a bunch of belligerent loudmouths, and kept her cool pretty well, considering.
I wouldn't have mentioned Fox.

cyph3r7
April 15th, 2009, 5:19 pm
One of the reasons why I called her an ignorant hag.

she seriously needs to be fired. That was unprofessional and clearly shows she has no capacity to provide fair and accurate reporting.

oldandtired
April 15th, 2009, 5:19 pm
oh sorry, yes the reporter was really rude.

It was not meant as an insult to you....your input is always read by this reader with an open mind. I just really believe that this topic needs to be seruiously addressed. Not just by the right....but by all of us.

It is very disturbing. He was not at all in the wrong in how he presented himself, yet she and her anchor made it seem that he was roudy and unruly...

And this is CNN....very disturbing.

upsetmom
April 15th, 2009, 5:19 pm
They are about spending? TEA Party. Taxed Enough Already held on Tax Day is about spending?
yes, hon. They're related. Too much spending leads to more and more taxes. If the govt stops spending on "free" healthcare and 9000 earmarks, our taxes wouldn't be so high.

obviously you don't understand the connections. you're a democrat. for you, money is free. you just tax OTHER people.

Mojotiger
April 15th, 2009, 5:19 pm
Well, lets see. Under Reagan, we borrowed the money to pay for the increase in spending. Under Bush 1, we borrowed the money to pay for the increase in spending. Under Clinton, the strong economy generated high tax revenues above what we owed so parts of the debt was paid. Under Bush 2, we borrowed the money to pay for the increase in spending. Under Obama, we are borrowing the money to pay for the increase in spending and the Clinton tax rates are being put back.


So taxes are going up?

Nevarwinter
April 15th, 2009, 5:20 pm
That was Susan Rosegen, I believe. She used to be a reporter in New orleans for NBC if memory serves. Didn't watch NBC news much locally, but you know the drill, they're very pro democrat.

Ming
April 15th, 2009, 5:20 pm
troll much?

what was that you were asking, no demanding, about proof of the media's contempt for the Tea Parties in my other thread?I saw no contempt. A reporter asked someone some questions.

cyph3r7
April 15th, 2009, 5:20 pm
She encounted a bunch of belligerent loudmouths, and kept her cool pretty well, considering.
I wouldn't have mentioned Fox.

:)):))

You really should be the WH spokesperson. You are much better at spin than the current dude.

zantax
April 15th, 2009, 5:20 pm
Well, lets see. Under Reagan, we borrowed the money to pay for the increase in spending. Under Bush 1, we borrowed the money to pay for the increase in spending. Under Clinton, the strong economy generated high tax revenues above what we owed so parts of the debt was paid. Under Bush 2, we borrowed the money to pay for the increase in spending. Under Obama, we are borrowing the money to pay for the increase in spending and the Clinton tax rates are being put back.



Either through tax revenue or borrowed cash.

Obama and the current democratic congress is making all those you mentioned look like rank amateurs.

kparra44
April 15th, 2009, 5:20 pm
That was very unprofessional on her part. CNN is crap which is why I never watch it. They are a joke.

croupier101
April 15th, 2009, 5:20 pm
yes, hon. They're related. Too much spending leads to more and more taxes.
Really?

Spending since Reagan is higher.
Tax rates since Reagan are lower.

oldandtired
April 15th, 2009, 5:20 pm
She encounted a bunch of belligerent loudmouths, and kept her cool pretty well, considering.
I wouldn't have mentioned Fox.

The gentleman she interviewed was not rowdy and unruly at all.

The crowd in the background was your typical "cheering" crowd. Nothing being thrown, no cursing....what you would expect to see take place in any large crowd situation.

She reported it as different.

Lee Kington
April 15th, 2009, 5:21 pm
She encounted a bunch of belligerent loudmouths, and kept her cool pretty well, considering.
I wouldn't have mentioned Fox.

They were not belligerent ... she was confrontational. An ignorant hag who was not interested in covering the event. Her assignment: Do a hit piece on the event and Fox News.

Mojotiger
April 15th, 2009, 5:21 pm
She encounted a bunch of belligerent loudmouths, and kept her cool pretty well, considering.
I wouldn't have mentioned Fox.

No one is surprised by your take. The reporter could have punched the guy, and you would defend CNN.

croupier101
April 15th, 2009, 5:21 pm
Obama and the current democratic congress is making all those you mentioned look like rank amateurs.

heard that in 1993.

kat
April 15th, 2009, 5:21 pm
I watched her earlier on HLN. She used the same spew about Il getting 50 billion in stimulus and Obama's billions in tax cuts for 95% of Americans in the same aggressive confrontational manner.

One trick pony there. And what a flaming nitwit......... "what do taxes have to do with liberty." Ignorance rules the day there folks.

oldandtired
April 15th, 2009, 5:22 pm
I admire your effort eagles...really...not an insult....I really admire your sticktuitiveness...

But please.....try all you want....but you can not spin this in anyway other than the way it is.

goeagles
April 15th, 2009, 5:22 pm
:)):))

You really should be the WH spokesperson. You are much better at spin than the current dude.

I don't think I'd like the job.
My jobs have been more fun.

croupier101
April 15th, 2009, 5:23 pm
She encounted a bunch of belligerent loudmouths, and kept her cool pretty well, considering.
I wouldn't have mentioned Fox.

i disagree, she was out to pick a fight and was rude and was unprofessional.

shrek
April 15th, 2009, 5:23 pm
I thought that the MSM wasn't going to cover the tea parties. :eek:

Ah yes deflection and spin. The reality is why not miss an opportunity to cover it if you can use that coverage to attack those that attend.

cyph3r7
April 15th, 2009, 5:23 pm
I saw no contempt. A reporter asked someone some questions.

HAHAHAHA yeah that wasn't her stating, not asking, stating that the event was "anti-CNN since this is highly promoted by the right wing conservative network...Fox" and "this is not really family viewing" shows she has no bias or contempt for the event.

Ok....sure

ArmyMAJretired
April 15th, 2009, 5:23 pm
Really?

Spending since Reagan is higher.
Tax rates since Reagan are lower.

My salary since Regan is higher.

Things cost more since Reagan.

many deductions that were allowed under Reagan are gone as well.

Nevarwinter
April 15th, 2009, 5:24 pm
Where were these same reporters to attempt to grill the anti war crowd?

Now CNN is doing a "real deal" taxes skit? LOLOL They obviously can't tell the truth and they're spinning the hell out of it.

They're going to get a huge backlash for this.

Lee Kington
April 15th, 2009, 5:24 pm
she seriously needs to be fired. That was unprofessional and clearly shows she has no capacity to provide fair and accurate reporting.I doubt that she ever was a credible professional journalist. If she was she has since prostituted herself to become a media slave of the Obama regime.

avergbear
April 15th, 2009, 5:25 pm
They are about spending? TEA Party. Taxed Enough Already held on Tax Day is about spending?

Yes!

It’s about out of control spending, punitive taxation and government expansion without consent.

I have seen you complain about the excessive spending of George Bush. Obama is more than doubling that and he has only been in office for 3 months.

croupier101
April 15th, 2009, 5:25 pm
My salary since Regan is higher.

Yes.

Things cost more since Reagan.
Correct.

many deductions that were allowed under Reagan are gone as well.
Many deductions that were not allowed under Reagan are now available. The fact is that tax rates are lower now then they were back then. And spending has gone up.

goeagles
April 15th, 2009, 5:26 pm
I admire your effort eagles...really...not an insult....I really admire your sticktuitiveness...

But please.....try all you want....but you can not spin this in anyway other than the way it is.
No spin.
Belligerent loudmouths are an occupational hazard at demonstrations, particularly one like this, which was based on anger and resentment to start with.
Again, the reporter did okay, given the situation that arose.
And she was very smart to break away.

cyph3r7
April 15th, 2009, 5:26 pm
i disagree, she was out to pick a fight and was rude and was unprofessional.

I think she got what she was trying to get. It would be like me going to the Million Man March and asking the attendees why they just don't move back to Africa. I would get a butt whooping I deserved. I don't think in these situations it's wise to play the protagonist.

ISYairio
April 15th, 2009, 5:27 pm
"...right to liberty..."

"What does this have to do with taxes?"

:doh:

ArmyMAJretired
April 15th, 2009, 5:27 pm
Yes.

Correct.


Many deductions that were not allowed under Reagan are now available. The fact is that tax rates are lower now then they were back then. And spending has gone up.

I'm paying more taxes than under Regan because as an active duty soldier, if I was out of NY State, I didn't have to pay state taxes!!!!!

Glad I got ROTC duty in NJ fron 1986-1989!

oldandtired
April 15th, 2009, 5:27 pm
i disagree, she was out to pick a fight and was rude and was unprofessional.

Thus why I learn from you Croup. More than I will ever be willing to admit out loud.

goeagles
April 15th, 2009, 5:29 pm
Where were these same reporters to attempt to grill the anti war crowd?

Now CNN is doing a "real deal" taxes skit? LOLOL They obviously can't tell the truth and they're spinning the hell out of it.

They're going to get a huge backlash for this.
Nah.
Just more outrage from the usual right-wing suspects.

Ming
April 15th, 2009, 5:30 pm
They were not belligerent ... she was confrontational. An ignorant hag who was not interested in covering the event. Her assignment: Do a hit piece on the event and Fox News.If you're referring to the shouting, she had to shout because it was so loud there. The man being interviewed was shouting as well.

RTchoke
April 15th, 2009, 5:30 pm
No one is surprised by your take. The reporter could have punched the guy, and you would defend CNN.

She didn't hit him. His face got in the way of her fist. :))

:razz:

croupier101
April 15th, 2009, 5:30 pm
I think she got what she was trying to get. It would be like me going to the Million Man March and asking the attendees why they just don't move back to Africa.
Agreed.

Lee Kington
April 15th, 2009, 5:31 pm
Thus why I learn from you Croup. More than I will ever be willing to admit out loud.

I disagree with Croup quite often, and he with me. On some issues we will never see eye to eye. On the whole however I find him sincere and honest about his views.

kparra44
April 15th, 2009, 5:31 pm
No spin.
Belligerent loudmouths are an occupational hazard at demonstrations, particularly one like this, which was based on anger and resentment to start with.
Again, the reporter did okay, given the situation that arose.
And she was very smart to break away.

Yeah, I think she was in a great deal of danger from being attacked by a man holding a two year old.:))

avergbear
April 15th, 2009, 5:31 pm
Nah.
Just more outrage from the usual right-wing suspects.

Yes, you are correct, at least according to the DOHS, we are now all “suspects.”

Nevarwinter
April 15th, 2009, 5:32 pm
Nah.
Just more outrage from the usual right-wing suspects.

Yep. Outrage that has spilled into every major city in America today. All right wing nut jobs.

yep.

oldandtired
April 15th, 2009, 5:32 pm
No spin.
Belligerent loudmouths are an occupational hazard at demonstrations, particularly one like this, which was based on anger and resentment to start with.
Again, the reporter did okay, given the situation that arose.
And she was very smart to break away.

Interesting take Eagles.

Speaks volumes.

Still like the bantering you and I have....would even enjoy a beer with you.....but once BC defected from the big east, us Orange alumni had very little respect for yas...:dance:

Lee Kington
April 15th, 2009, 5:34 pm
If you're referring to the shouting, she had to shout because it was so loud there. The man being interviewed was shouting as well. My statement is not that cloudy and had nothing to do with shouting. The shouting is expected in a noisy environment.

croupier101
April 15th, 2009, 5:34 pm
I'm paying more taxes than under Regan because as an active duty soldier, if I was out of NY State, I didn't have to pay state taxes!!!!!

Glad I got ROTC duty in NJ fron 1986-1989!

Is the reason your are paying more in taxes, is because you make more? Taxes are a % of your income, so when your income goes up then your tax payment goes up. Even if your % rate goes down it is still possible to be paying more in cash in taxes then you were 25 years ago.

avergbear
April 15th, 2009, 5:34 pm
Yep. Outrage that has spilled into every major city in America today. All right wing nut jobs.

yep.

And, we are now all on a watch-list.

I’ve never been on one of those before. Do we get an arm band or anything?

goeagles
April 15th, 2009, 5:34 pm
Yeah, I think she was in a great deal of danger from being attacked by a man holding a two year old.:))
There was a lot more going on than just him.
It was becoming a dangerous situation.

upsetmom
April 15th, 2009, 5:35 pm
Really?

Spending since Reagan is higher.
Tax rates since Reagan are lower.
you can try to slander Reagan all you like, but the truth is, the government is out of control. Congress has been spending, unchecked, for years, and it's compounded beyond sustainability because obama is a crazed socialist spendaholic.

obama has QUADRUPLED the deficit - he's indebted our children and grandchildren beyond anything ever seen.

This is beyond politics- and the fact is, there are thousands of people at most, if not all of these tax parties. That wasn't done with acorn knocking on every door and getting bums and dead people there with busses - it was done by a groundswell of PUBLIC involvement. People tired of higher and higher spending on pet projects for politicians who've been in power too long, who don't pay their own taxes but raise ours, who don't represent the interests of the people they are supposed to represent.

.........and mark my words, croup. The attitude of "we won, get used to it" and "we have a blank check, we can do all the things we've always wanted and you just have to take it" is going to backfire.

Ming
April 15th, 2009, 5:35 pm
My statement is not that cloudy and had nothing to do with shouting. The shouting is expected in a noisy environment.Fair enough.

zantax
April 15th, 2009, 5:36 pm
There was a lot more going on than just him.
It was becoming a dangerous situation.

*points and laughs at goeagles histrionics*

Lee Kington
April 15th, 2009, 5:37 pm
There was a lot more going on than just him.
It was becoming a dangerous situation.

That was NOT a dangerous situation. Heck, I have completed shooting an interview with militants coming after me with a bayonet. The only danger there was the hag totally losing it.

oldandtired
April 15th, 2009, 5:38 pm
There was a lot more going on than just him.
It was becoming a dangerous situation.

I dont know eagles...I saw the clip again and I do not see a dangerous situyation at all.
What exactly were you referring to?

goeagles
April 15th, 2009, 5:38 pm
Interesting take Eagles.

Speaks volumes.

Still like the bantering you and I have....would even enjoy a beer with you.....but once BC defected from the big east, us Orange alumni had very little respect for yas...:dance:
A lot of people are still angry at us over that.
I have fond memories of BC-Syracuse games while I was there.
I had the privilege of seeing Ernie Davis play.

avergbear
April 15th, 2009, 5:38 pm
There was a lot more going on than just him.
It was becoming a dangerous situation.

Yes, I also thought the CNN reporter was about to hit someone.

Maybe the kid.

bigtwnvin
April 15th, 2009, 5:38 pm
Tax cut?? What tax cut.

fava
April 15th, 2009, 5:38 pm
How did the person being interviewed answer the question about actually getting a tax cut from 2008?

Some people enjoy taking 400 dollars from their children.
No one is getting a tax cut when our debt is going up 2 trillion. Your net worth is going down, not up.

avergbear
April 15th, 2009, 5:38 pm
Theres nothing you can do. Wait 4 years. Thats it!

Nope.

cyph3r7
April 15th, 2009, 5:39 pm
There was a lot more going on than just him.
It was becoming a dangerous situation.

I know seriously, had she stayed any longer she may have punched a kid with downs syndrome and blurted out a few more slanderous attacks on Fox news or conservatives.

Good thing CNN cut her off before she could do more damage.

avergbear
April 15th, 2009, 5:39 pm
We all get an extra $14 while our home values have dropped 40%.

Great deal!

Mojotiger
April 15th, 2009, 5:40 pm
There was a lot more going on than just him.
It was becoming a dangerous situation.

How many times have you watched Obama's inauguration speech today? 7...8? Do you close the blinds when you watch it?

upsetmom
April 15th, 2009, 5:41 pm
And, we are now all on a watch-list.

I’ve never been on one of those before. Do we get an arm band or anything?
I find it hysterical that the same people who went ballistic about GWB and his supposed infringements of liberty when there was nothing there - are perfectly fine with a 9 page GOVERNMENT "warning" about "right wing extremists" because of PEACEFUL PROTESTS involving thousands of grassroots everyday people. (and it's funnier still that obama says he doesn't know anything about them)

ISYairio
April 15th, 2009, 5:41 pm
A tax "cut" of [only] ~$400/person. Why can't you love him too?!

cyph3r7
April 15th, 2009, 5:42 pm
A lot of people are still angry at us over that.
I have fond memories of BC-Syracuse games while I was there.
I had the privilege of seeing Ernie Davis play.

Boy does BU hate you guys. During the Frozen Four they would chant that BC sucks no matter who they were playing.

I was like, "uh wait, can't you substitute UVM for BC and make the chant relevant?"

goeagles
April 15th, 2009, 5:42 pm
I dont know eagles...I saw the clip again and I do not see a dangerous situyation at all.
What exactly were you referring to?
Listen to the menacing shouting, and watch people starting to move towards her from a couple of directions.
I've been there, and I know what she was sensing.
She got out of there just in time.

Hoobeedoo Bejesus
April 15th, 2009, 5:42 pm
How is this any different than Fox being the official corporate sponsor of the Tea Parties?

avergbear
April 15th, 2009, 5:42 pm
Your home dropping 40% is Obama's fault? You must think he IS the messiah

Obama? Not to a large degree.

Barney Frank and Chris Dodd? Absolutely!


The Tea Party is not about Obama.

PSBandit
April 15th, 2009, 5:43 pm
Imagine what the CNN bimbo would have been like had he not been holding a 2-year old. :eek:

:)):)):)) -----> CNN

oldandtired
April 15th, 2009, 5:43 pm
A lot of people are still angry at us over that.
I have fond memories of BC-Syracuse games while I was there.
I had the privilege of seeing Ernie Davis play.

I was there pre Dome. Froze my butt at Archibold Stadium.

Miss my years at SU....and miss the BC/SU rivalry. We both sucked it up back then (70's).

Should have named the stadium Ernie Davis Dome....but alas, Carriers money spoke louder than nostalgia.

Bay Sick
April 15th, 2009, 5:44 pm
I agree with Croupier here; we know how she probably wanted to portray them, and she got the material she needed.

It reminds me of this clip from last year:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuSSRMiI8MQ

Although, Jenkin's tone was more professional in that clip.

A couple of things about this though:
The guy she interviewed goes into a long harangue about taxes and Lincoln this, Lincoln that. I guess he doesn't know that Lincoln signed the first income tax.

Second, the media just can't win in this situation. For the last couple of weeks, I've heard nothing except that the MSM isn't covering these protests; that they're ignoring them; that they're scared of them.

Now that they're covering the protests, they're only there to paint the protesters in a bad light, etc. Just can't win.

zantax
April 15th, 2009, 5:44 pm
Listen to the menacing shouting, and watch people starting to move towards her from a couple of directions.
I've been there, and I know what she was sensing.
She got out of there just in time.


Oh please.

zantax
April 15th, 2009, 5:45 pm
How is this any different than Fox being the official corporate sponsor of the Tea Parties?

Fox didn't get involved until long after these protests were planned. They're covering them, not sponsoring them. I know it's confusing to you since the other networks no longer cover news they don't agree with.

goeagles
April 15th, 2009, 5:45 pm
Boy does BU hate you guys. During the Frozen Four they would chant that BC sucks no matter who they were playing.

I was like, "uh wait, can't you substitute UVM for BC and make the chant relevant?"

:)):)):))
Yeah, there's not much love lost.
I couldn't hear that on TV, but I'm not surprised.

oldandtired
April 15th, 2009, 5:46 pm
Listen to the menacing shouting, and watch people starting to move towards her from a couple of directions.
I've been there, and I know what she was sensing.
She got out of there just in time.

She made absolutely no attempt to leave the area. She was not at all concerned about her well being...she simply said she was. I saw no fear in her, nor did she try to remove herself from the area....
She made it something it want.
The Fox line was not just a mistake on her part....it spoke volumes well beyond an insult to fox.

IN MY OPINION

Lee Kington
April 15th, 2009, 5:46 pm
Listen to the menacing shouting, and watch people starting to move towards her from a couple of directions.
I've been there, and I know what she was sensing.
She got out of there just in time.

That is pure bull.

avergbear
April 15th, 2009, 5:46 pm
Listen to the menacing shouting, and watch people starting to move towards her from a couple of directions.
I've been there, and I know what she was sensing.
She got out of there just in time.


Oh please.


Let me add another: Oh, please!

Long Island Bob
April 15th, 2009, 5:46 pm
which future tax increase was the person being interviewed upset about?

he didn't name any.

Nor was he asked. Now was he allowed to finish more than a sentence or two.

It went like this

Reporter:
"Why are you here?"

Ctiizen (holding his 2 year old):
"I am here because I hear a president say hebelieved in what Lincoln stood for. Lincoln's primary thing was that he believed that peole has the right to liberty. . ."

Reporter (cutting him off and changing the subject to taxes):
What does this have to do with taxes?
do YOU realize that you are eligible for a $400 tax credit?

Citizen:
Let me finish my point. Lincoln believed that people have the right to
share in the fruits of their own labor and that government should not take it, and we have clearly gotten to that point.

Reporter (cutting him off and changing the subject again and this time sounding down right snide):
Wait, alright wait, did you know that the stateof Lincoln gets $50 billion out of these stimlus, that's $50 billion $50 billion for this state sir.

Citizen:
ma'am I, I, I . . .

Reporter cutting him off moving away and changing the subject AGAIN):
"We'll move on over here. I think youcan get thegeneral tenor of this. It's anit-goverenment, anti-CNN since this is highly promoted by the rightwing conservative network FOX. and since I can't reallyhear mchmore and I think tis is not realyfamily viewing, I'll tossit back to you Kyra.







Wow she really got to the bottom of that. I am sure now everyone knows what the protests are all about.

ModerateVoice
April 15th, 2009, 5:47 pm
Listen to the menacing shouting, and watch people starting to move towards her from a couple of directions.
I've been there, and I know what she was sensing.
She got out of there just in time.

She started out angry, she cut off the first person she interviewed to interject her opinion, she made some snarky comment about being suitable for family viewing, and skulked off.

She created a faux outrage, (to borrow that word from you lefties), because she entered into the interview with a bad attitude. There is no way to spin this...yes, I know you've been in the news, yadda, yadda, yadda....I'm watching these events on TV; so far the only hostility I have seen is this one reporter who obviously chose her own angry attitude about how to cover the event.

freethinkeratl
April 15th, 2009, 5:47 pm
Thus why I learn from you Croup. More than I will ever be willing to admit out loud.


Croup is good people.

shrek
April 15th, 2009, 5:47 pm
Listen to the menacing shouting, and watch people starting to move towards her from a couple of directions.
I've been there, and I know what she was sensing.
She got out of there just in time.


:eek: She did not get out of there. She stopped to make the quip about Fox News. She was still well within reach of the people that had been around her.

They only stopped, because she stopped talking over the guy, which is all they were complaining about. But spin this any way you want.

In the end this You Tube clip only makes her and the other reporter and CNN as a whole look very very unprofessional.

tinydancer
April 15th, 2009, 5:47 pm
Good grief. Has anyone posted this about this reporter?

She's NUTS!!!!!!


April 15, 2009
Categories: CNN

CNN reporter calls protest 'anti-CNN'

TVNewser caught CNN correspondent Susan Roesgen arguing with a tea party protester earlier, before taking a shot at the a cable rival.

"It's anti-government, anti-CNN, since this is highly-promoted by the right-wing conservative network Fox," Roesgen said.



Sorry. Here's the link:

http://www.politico.com/blogs/michaelcalderone/

croupier101
April 15th, 2009, 5:48 pm
Listen to the menacing shouting, and watch people starting to move towards her from a couple of directions.
I've been there, and I know what she was sensing.
She got out of there just in time.

You don't think she did that on purpose in order to create that atmosphere to tell a story about those people?

I have seen news reporters do that at rallies I have been to before, creating a tone and making themselves a news story.

She is supposed to report the news, but in this one instance we see a reporter creating the news by putting herself and using her tone to create a news story.

oldandtired
April 15th, 2009, 5:48 pm
How is this any different than Fox being the official corporate sponsor of the Tea Parties?

Sponsor of the tea parties?

You have a link that shows they sponsored these?

Hoobeedoo Bejesus
April 15th, 2009, 5:48 pm
Fox didn't get involved until long after these protests were planned. They're covering them, not sponsoring them. I know it's confusing to you since the other networks no longer cover news they don't agree with.

Actually, the first real story I heard about them was on CNN. Prior to that I had only head Fox promoting them and not giving any real background or substantive information. FYI, I listen to Fox news about 3 hours a day, CNN about an hour a week.

freethinkeratl
April 15th, 2009, 5:50 pm
Listen to the menacing shouting, and watch people starting to move towards her from a couple of directions.
I've been there, and I know what she was sensing.
She got out of there just in time.


Good grief I don't know what is worse.

The fact that you actually might think that or the fact that you are so partisan that you wrote it.

Glad I'm not wearing sandles with the amount of ******** spread around.

ModerateVoice
April 15th, 2009, 5:50 pm
Good grief. Has anyone posted this about this reporter?

She's NUTS!!!!!!


April 15, 2009
Categories: CNN

CNN reporter calls protest 'anti-CNN'

TVNewser caught CNN correspondent Susan Roesgen arguing with a tea party protester earlier, before taking a shot at the a cable rival.

"It's anti-government, anti-CNN, since this is highly-promoted by the right-wing conservative network Fox," Roesgen said.



The bottom-line is that this reporter ends up with egg on her face for the way in which she handled this. I am sure most of her peers have a dimmer view of her professionalism after seeing that segment.

Hoobeedoo Bejesus
April 15th, 2009, 5:50 pm
Sponsor of the tea parties?

You have a link that shows they sponsored these?

http://www.foxnews.com/

Or how about the broadcast? All Tea Parties, all the time.

I find their constant advertisement of the Tea Parties to be especially amusing when they wrap it up with "Fair & ballanced. We report, you decide."

croupier101
April 15th, 2009, 5:50 pm
Sponsor of the tea parties?

You have a link that shows they sponsored these?
http://www.foxnews.com/

Bottom right, Fox News is sponsoring a cyber Tea Party for protestors who can't make it to a physical location. 4 of their on air personalities are speakers at them, and they are broadcasting live from the events.

While I agree this reporter was disgraceful, I think it is accurate to say that Fox News is sponsoring and supporting the protests rather then reporting on them.

Nevarwinter
April 15th, 2009, 5:52 pm
The bottom-line is that this reporter ends up with egg on her face for the way in which she handled this. I am sure most of her peers have a dimmer view of her professionalism after seeing that segment.

not GoEagles.

oldandtired
April 15th, 2009, 5:54 pm
http://www.foxnews.com/

Or how about the broadcast? All Tea Parties, all the time.

I find their constant advertisement of the Tea Parties to be especially amusing when they wrap it up with "Fair & ballanced. We report, you decide."

I watched the "news programs" today on fox and other than a "report" they were not there all day.

Yes, Cavuto is there and there all through the show...but he is not marketed as a news program.

But all day today, not one fothe Fox news progrmas did anything but report on it.

Thanks for the link.

bigtwnvin
April 15th, 2009, 5:54 pm
MSM with hit piece agenda taps a clearly educated guy who throws an Abraham Lincoln quote in the mix. He gets jobbed by agenda driven "journalist" and given the old "$400.00 tax break" fairy tale! :))
Next comes the "billions for Illinois" so the guy has to feel guilty for being there?? Well no kidding obammite, it's freakin' Illinois, why doesn't that surprise you, comrade Soetoro has some heavy payback on his plate.
Enter the "hostile crowd". :rolleyes: They've had about enough of "the journalist" so sure she gets the business end of a bunch of really ****ed off taxpayers that took the day off work.
Tell your story walking I say.
Typical Commie News Network I guess.

avergbear
April 15th, 2009, 5:54 pm
http://www.foxnews.com/

Bottom right, Fox News is sponsoring a cyber Tea Party for protestors who can't make it to a physical location. 4 of their on air personalities are speakers at them, and they are broadcasting live from the events.

While I agree this reporter was disgraceful, I think it is accurate to say that Fox News is sponsoring and supporting the protests rather then reporting on them.

None of the Fox personnel in attendance are News anchors, but rather have magazine type programs.

Was the reporter from CNN there in a capacity of an opinion show representative, or as a CNN News reporter?

ModerateVoice
April 15th, 2009, 5:54 pm
http://www.foxnews.com/

Bottom right, Fox News is sponsoring a cyber Tea Party for protestors who can't make it to a physical location. 4 of their on air personalities are speakers at them, and they are broadcasting live from the events.

While I agree this reporter was disgraceful, I think it is accurate to say that Fox News is sponsoring and supporting the protests rather then reporting on them.

I don't think Fox is denying their role in sponsoring these Tea Parties. Its a smart business move on their part...as long as its not covered as "straight news" but rather commentary.

oldandtired
April 15th, 2009, 5:55 pm
http://www.foxnews.com/

Bottom right, Fox News is sponsoring a cyber Tea Party for protestors who can't make it to a physical location. 4 of their on air personalities are speakers at them, and they are broadcasting live from the events.

While I agree this reporter was disgraceful, I think it is accurate to say that Fox News is sponsoring and supporting the protests rather then reporting on them.

Thanks for the link.

Fox news only reported on it.

Cavuto, Beck, Hannity and others may be more "promoting it"...but they are not and do not claim to be news programs.

fava
April 15th, 2009, 5:56 pm
http://www.foxnews.com/

Bottom right, Fox News is sponsoring a cyber Tea Party for protestors who can't make it to a physical location. 4 of their on air personalities are speakers at them, and they are broadcasting live from the events.

While I agree this reporter was disgraceful, I think it is accurate to say that Fox News is sponsoring and supporting the protests rather then reporting on them.

Stretching more than plastic man.

avergbear
April 15th, 2009, 5:56 pm
The bottom-line is that this reporter ends up with egg on her face for the way in which she handled this. I am sure most of her peers have a dimmer view of her professionalism after seeing that segment.

She is executive material at MSNBC.

shrek
April 15th, 2009, 5:56 pm
You don't think she did that on purpose in order to create that atmosphere to tell a story about those people?

I have seen news reporters do that at rallies I have been to before, creating a tone and making themselves a news story.

She is supposed to report the news, but in this one instance we see a reporter creating the news by putting herself and using her tone to create a news story.


Croup, I agree with Lee, and Old and tired and many others here, you and I are ussually at odds on subjects but on this one you hit it spot on.

I also thought it rather odd how she pointed out He brought his two year old daughter. Her tone of voice was not one of how nice it was a tone along the lines of "you brought your 2 year old daughter to a bar"

And then later said this is not family programming.

It was despicable at best and she did indeed create the environment.

And she did not flee she continued reporting from right there.

Hoobeedoo Bejesus
April 15th, 2009, 5:57 pm
I watched the "news programs" today on fox and other than a "report" they were not there all day.

Yes, Cavuto is there and there all through the show...but he is not marketed as a news program.

But all day today, not one fothe Fox news progrmas did anything but report on it.

Thanks for the link.

How is a show not marketed as a new show when it is exclusively on the channel called "Fox NEWS Channel?"

Since when did Fox NEWS Channel start broadcasting sitcoms?

Furthermore, why did they refer to the Tea Parties as the "FNC Tax Day Tea Parties" on more than one occasion?

Yeah, the Tea Parties have an official corporate sponsor now.

oldandtired
April 15th, 2009, 5:58 pm
Good grief I don't know what is worse.

The fact that you actually might think that or the fact that you are so partisan that you wrote it.

Glad I'm not wearing sandles with the amount of ******** spread around.

In all fairness to the term partisan.....that is not being partisan on his part. That is simply refusing to see the truth.

bonchie
April 15th, 2009, 5:59 pm
How is a show not marketed as a new show when it is exclusively on the channel called "Fox NEWS Channel?"

Since when did Fox NEWS Channel start broadcasting sitcoms?



Why does CNN show infomercials at night? Why is MSNBC's primetime lineup a straight shot of left wing opinion shows?

Being a news channel doesn't mean hard news all day. All the channels also have shows that deal with the news in a commentative way.

And I've yet to see them called the "FNC's Tax Day Teaparties" but whatever.

Lee Kington
April 15th, 2009, 5:59 pm
http://www.foxnews.com/

Bottom right, Fox News is sponsoring a cyber Tea Party for protestors who can't make it to a physical location. 4 of their on air personalities are speakers at them, and they are broadcasting live from the events.

While I agree this reporter was disgraceful, I think it is accurate to say that Fox News is sponsoring and supporting the protests rather then reporting on them.


I agree that Fox has been promoting awareness of the events and their intended coverage and done so with supportive bias. Broadcasting live.. is coverage. The speakers, as far as I know, are show (vs news) hosts who have conservative leaning / biased shows.

tinydancer
April 15th, 2009, 6:00 pm
The bottom-line is that this reporter ends up with egg on her face for the way in which she handled this. I am sure most of her peers have a dimmer view of her professionalism after seeing that segment.

It's such an over the top statement that the "tea parties are anti CNN".

Ted Turner's looniness obviously extends to CNN's reporters.

PSBandit
April 15th, 2009, 6:00 pm
Was the reporter from CNN there in a capacity of an opinion show representative, or as a CNN News reporter?

She sure seemed like an Obama the Marxist groupie to me.... well that and she was trying to make the event about her and CNN. What a fool... she's the posterbabe for leftist sourfaces everywhere who are bitter they don't have the protest spotlight.

oldandtired
April 15th, 2009, 6:00 pm
How is a show not marketed as a new show when it is exclusively on the channel called "Fox NEWS Channel?"

Since when did Fox NEWS Channel start broadcasting sitcoms?

Furthermore, why did they refer to the Tea Parties as the "FNC Tax Day Tea Parties" on more than one occasion?

Yeah, the Tea Parties have an official corporate sponsor now.

I will not argue. You have a point. FNC IS a misleafing name for the station.

But Cavuto, Beck, Hannity, Oreilly and Greta are not news programs.

They are commentary magazines (I made that term up...but you get the point).

croupier101
April 15th, 2009, 6:00 pm
Thanks for the link.

Fox news only reported on it.
I don't believe setting up a cyber Tea Party is reporting.

Cavuto, Beck, Hannity and others may be more "promoting it"...but they are not and do not claim to be news programs.
and Greta.

And while I agree those are not news programs, that is the entire primetime lineup promoting the tea parties, and I think it is okay to assume that Fox News is doing a little more then just reporting on it.

bonchie
April 15th, 2009, 6:01 pm
And while I agree those are not news programs, that is the entire primetime lineup promoting the tea parties, and I think it is okay to assume that Fox News is doing a little more then just reporting on it.

Do you really have a big problem with commentators supporting tax protests? Don't you have better things to get upset about?

ModerateVoice
April 15th, 2009, 6:01 pm
Just clicked over to CNN and the same reporter from the Tea Party was commenting on another story from the studio...she's still in a foul mood! God, who would want to be married to that?!

croupier101
April 15th, 2009, 6:02 pm
I agree that Fox has been promoting awareness of the events and their intended coverage and done so with supportive bias. Broadcasting live.. is coverage. The speakers, as far as I know, are show (vs news) hosts who have conservative leaning / biased shows.

I think if we watch just the news on CNN, Fox, and MSNBC tonight, we are going to see very negative stories about the Tea Parties on CNN and MSNBC and very positive stories about the Tea Parties on Fox News.

Lee Kington
April 15th, 2009, 6:03 pm
And she did not flee she continued reporting from right there. Correct. The only danger she was in was of allowing someone to complete a full sentence which was derogatory of Congress and Obama. Had that occurred then perhaps her job would be in danger.

Middy
April 15th, 2009, 6:03 pm
are you serious Croup? How do you think that spending will be paid for?

Hell let's start easy, how is anything the government does or spends funded?

You're confused. Obama has altered our language: There's no spending. There's investing.


Spending = Investing

Act of Terror = Man Made Disaster

War on Terror = Overseas Contingency Operations

Those opposed to Administration Policies = Right Wing Extremists


Now get with it.

Hoobeedoo Bejesus
April 15th, 2009, 6:04 pm
Why does CNN show infomercials at night? Why is MSNBC's primetime lineup a straight shot of left wing opinion shows?

Being a news channel doesn't mean hard news all day. All the channels also have shows that deal with the news in a commentative way.

And I've yet to see them called the "FNC's Tax Day Teaparties" but whatever.

Enjoy the attached image!

croupier101
April 15th, 2009, 6:04 pm
Do you really have a big problem with commentators supporting tax protests? Don't you have better things to get upset about?

Absolutely no problem with it whatsoever. I am simply debating that Fox News is doing more then just reporting the story, they have been actively promoting the events for over a week. And channels like MSNBC have been attacking them for a week.

I am not upset, just having a discussion with other posters about whether Fox is doing just reporting on this story. Calm down. It is okay to admit that Fox is supportive of this agenda, while MSNBC is not.

And this awful reporter from CNN shows that she isn't reporting the news either.

Lee Kington
April 15th, 2009, 6:05 pm
I think if we watch just the news on CNN, Fox, and MSNBC tonight, we are going to see very negative stories about the Tea Parties on CNN and MSNBC and very positive stories about the Tea Parties on Fox News. I believe you are correct in that assessment. If, however, any truly improper conduct was performed by those attending I hope that Fox addresses it and does so without spin or excuse.

rodlang
April 15th, 2009, 6:05 pm
I think it's fair to say that "reporter" had an attitude going. Very unprofessional. She was an advocate for the Obama economic policy which is her right in her personal life but not her professional life as a reporter.

But some Fox reporters have also been advocated for the tea parties.

Hoobeedoo Bejesus
April 15th, 2009, 6:06 pm
I will not argue. You have a point. FNC IS a misleafing name for the station.

But Cavuto, Beck, Hannity, Oreilly and Greta are not news programs.

They are commentary magazines (I made that term up...but you get the point).

I appriciate the moniker FNC (they they seem to moving more towards this now) over the spelled out Fox NEWS Channel in this situation.

bonchie
April 15th, 2009, 6:06 pm
Enjoy the attached image!

Thats what your talking about? I thought they were running ads advertising the movement as theres.

Those are the 4 tea parties being hosted by commentators on FNC. Seems pretty self explanitory to me. But you can be outraged if you'd like.

oldandtired
April 15th, 2009, 6:06 pm
I don't believe setting up a cyber Tea Party is reporting.


and Greta.

And while I agree those are not news programs, that is the entire primetime lineup promoting the tea parties, and I think it is okay to assume that Fox News is doing a little more then just reporting on it.

Fair enough assumption...but I have a tv on all day in my office and Ihad Americas Newsroom, Studio B, and that other one with Martha McCallum...and none of them did anythingbut mention the tea parties and have reporter report on the crowd size...

Cavuto was the first that was actualkly "all aboiut the tea party"

Is fox more right then left? Please...I am not an idiot.

But are they balanced when it comes to news? I believe they are....but I am open to being wrong.

croupier101
April 15th, 2009, 6:07 pm
C
I also thought it rather odd how she pointed out He brought his two year old daughter. Her tone of voice was not one of how nice it was a tone along the lines of "you brought your 2 year old daughter to a bar"
.

I also took that terrible comment to heart. I have brought my daughter to many rallies and other big events. This person handled it much better then I would have if a reporter said that to me with my daughter.

tinydancer
April 15th, 2009, 6:08 pm
When you have the other "non partisan main stream media" claiming that :

Nobody’s covering the tea parties quite like Fox — and that’s prompting critics and cable news competitors to say that the network is blurring the line between journalism and advocacy.

.

:boohoo:To say Fox has blurred the line between journalism and advocacy is so hypocritical.

oldandtired
April 15th, 2009, 6:09 pm
Enjoy the attached image!

I hate being proven wrong.

You are a bad man...a very bad man. (shakes index finger in Bejesus' face):D:D:D

Thanks.

Lee Kington
April 15th, 2009, 6:09 pm
Enjoy the attached image!

As I noted in another post... all celebrities pictured are show hosts and not news anchors or reporters.

Was Fox promoting their coverage and the involvement of those celebrities? Yes.

Hoobeedoo Bejesus
April 15th, 2009, 6:10 pm
Thats what your talking about? I thought they were running ads advertising the movement as theres.

Those are the 4 tea parties being hosted by commentators on FNC. Seems pretty self explanitory to me. But you can be outraged if you'd like.

No outrage.

More like flabbergasted that people are falling for such tactics.

shrek
April 15th, 2009, 6:10 pm
Correct. The only danger she was in was of allowing someone to complete a full sentence which was derogatory of Congress and Obama. Had that occurred then perhaps her job would be in danger.

Very good point.

If CNN really were an objective News Channel then they would be asking for her resignation before the end of the day.

But am betting your right. She was not exactly there to report. But to project.

RTchoke
April 15th, 2009, 6:10 pm
She is executive material at MSNBC.

What do you expect. She used to work for NPR.

croupier101
April 15th, 2009, 6:10 pm
But are they balanced when it comes to news? I believe they are....but I am open to being wrong.

Here is my question, and this is the same question I have about CNN, MSNBC, and Fox.

When are they actually reporting the news? Which of Fox, CNN, or MSNBC shows on a daily basis looking at their schedule is a NEWS program? All 3 networks fill their schedule with 24 hour a day opinion programs.

bonchie
April 15th, 2009, 6:11 pm
No outrage.

More like flabbergasted that people are falling for such tactics.

The issue of taxes is not a partisan issue, or at least it shouldn't be. So whats the big deal? News organizations have taken stances on issues with their editorial wing for generations and it didn't start with FNC.

Hoobeedoo Bejesus
April 15th, 2009, 6:11 pm
As I noted in another post... all celebrities pictured are show hosts and not news anchors or reporters.

Was Fox promoting their coverage and the involvement of those celebrities? Yes.

They are rebranding what were originally "Tea Parties" to the "FNC Tax Day Tea Parties"

BrittleBullet
April 15th, 2009, 6:12 pm
What do you expect. She used to work for NPR.

I like NPR. That reporter was pretty unprofessional however.

Hoobeedoo Bejesus
April 15th, 2009, 6:12 pm
The issue of taxes is not a partisan issue, or at least it shouldn't be. So whats the big deal? News organizations have taken stances on issues with their editorial wing for generations and it didn't start with FNC.

No it shouldn't be, I agree 100%.

But this event was 100% partisan and 0% grassroots.

oldandtired
April 15th, 2009, 6:13 pm
Here is my question, and this is the same question I have about CNN, MSNBC, and Fox.

When are they actually reporting the news? Which of Fox, CNN, or MSNBC shows on a daily basis looking at their schedule is a NEWS program? All 3 networks fill their schedule with 24 hour a day opinion programs.

Fox

9-11 Americas Newsroom

3-4 Studio B with Shepard Smith

Those two are pure news

the one from 1-3 is also pure news but cannot recall the name of the show.

Hoobeedoo Bejesus
April 15th, 2009, 6:14 pm
Fox

9-11 Americas Newsroom

3-4 Studio B with Shepard Smith

Those two are pure news

the one from 1-3 is also pure news but cannot recall the name of the show.

I usually listen to the 9-11 segment and generally like it.

Long Island Bob
April 15th, 2009, 6:14 pm
Here is my question, and this is the same question I have about CNN, MSNBC, and Fox.

When are they actually reporting the news? Which of Fox, CNN, or MSNBC shows on a daily basis looking at their schedule is a NEWS program? All 3 networks fill their schedule with 24 hour a day opinion programs.

VERY good observation (sincerely).

All of those networks do very little news programming, and of them CNN probably dos the most.

that said the video linked in the OP was clearly produced as a news video for a news program and it fell short os several key areas of professionalism and fariness.

It would, however be a shame for any of us cons to pretend that particular segment was typical of CNN.

It was CNN nearly at is worst not at its most typical.

homiebrah
April 15th, 2009, 6:15 pm
Here is my question, and this is the same question I have about CNN, MSNBC, and Fox.

When are they actually reporting the news? Which of Fox, CNN, or MSNBC shows on a daily basis looking at their schedule is a NEWS program? All 3 networks fill their schedule with 24 hour a day opinion programs.
Try looking at their TV schedule. Or, you can ask Vaard, since we had this discussion last week.

Lee Kington
April 15th, 2009, 6:15 pm
Here is my question, and this is the same question I have about CNN, MSNBC, and Fox.

When are they actually reporting the news? Which of Fox, CNN, or MSNBC shows on a daily basis looking at their schedule is a NEWS program? All 3 networks fill their schedule with 24 hour a day opinion programs.

That is true in many ways. In doing the 'in depth' coverage of many news stories even the anchors and reporters tend to get into too much editorializing.

goeagles
April 15th, 2009, 6:16 pm
You don't think she did that on purpose in order to create that atmosphere to tell a story about those people?

I have seen news reporters do that at rallies I have been to before, creating a tone and making themselves a news story.

She is supposed to report the news, but in this one instance we see a reporter creating the news by putting herself and using her tone to create a news story.

I disagree.
In close to 40 years in the business, I have never seen or heard of a reporter purposely trying to create a turbulent atmosphere for a story.
That would be both unprofessional and reckless, because the last thing you want to do at a rally of angry people is make them more angry, creating a dangerous situation for you and your crew, as well as the demonstrators.
She didn't have to create a story--the story was there.
I agree with you far more often than I disagree, Croupier, and I respect your views.
But in this instance, we disagree.

oldandtired
April 15th, 2009, 6:16 pm
I usually listen to the 9-11 segment and generally like it.

Admit it....you like that Megyn Kelley.

shrek
April 15th, 2009, 6:17 pm
Here is my question, and this is the same question I have about CNN, MSNBC, and Fox.

When are they actually reporting the news? Which of Fox, CNN, or MSNBC shows on a daily basis looking at their schedule is a NEWS program? All 3 networks fill their schedule with 24 hour a day opinion programs.

Croup,

FNC has Shepherd Smiths News hour and the morning news program right after Fox and friends. I would even venture to state that Fox and Friends is more news than opinion.

And if you want to make the claim that Fox and Friends has opinion on it. True but so do all morning shows like the Today Show, Good Morning American and CNN's {aula Zahn and her CNN Morning News hour.

rodlang
April 15th, 2009, 6:18 pm
Here is my question, and this is the same question I have about CNN, MSNBC, and Fox.

When are they actually reporting the news? Which of Fox, CNN, or MSNBC shows on a daily basis looking at their schedule is a NEWS program? All 3 networks fill their schedule with 24 hour a day opinion programs.

I agree and the line between reporting and opinion has been blurred. But this reporter crossed the line and became an advocate for Obama's policies. I don't know if I've ever seen a reporter with such obvious comtempt for the people he/she is reporting on. The roles of a reporter and opinion show host are supposed to be different. No more, I guess.

Boof
April 15th, 2009, 6:18 pm
Wow, what a B****! Isn't her job to report and not to reflect her own feelings on the subject? Nice reporting there!

shrek
April 15th, 2009, 6:18 pm
Admit it....you like that Megyn Kelley.


Who doesn't :D

Lee Kington
April 15th, 2009, 6:18 pm
They are rebranding what were originally "Tea Parties" to the "FNC Tax Day Tea Parties"

They also recently had something like the Fox News Election Day. Guess what... it was a national (not Fox) election.

supreme_war_Pig
April 15th, 2009, 6:19 pm
Gee, what do lower taxes have to do with liberty she asks, cracks me up. Umm, hello communist reporter, slaving away for the government for almost half the year is not exactly freedom.

Well.....I think yesterday was 'Tax Freedom Day', that's only a quarter of the year, but point taken.

Hoobeedoo Bejesus
April 15th, 2009, 6:19 pm
Admit it....you like that Megyn Kelley.

She has a nice voice. I was honestly frightened when I saw her.

To quote the honorable Sir Mix Alot, "Silicone parts are made for toys."

goeagles
April 15th, 2009, 6:19 pm
When you have the other "non partisan main stream media" claiming that :

Nobody’s covering the tea parties quite like Fox — and that’s prompting critics and cable news competitors to say that the network is blurring the line between journalism and advocacy.

.

:boohoo:To say Fox has blurred the line between journalism and advocacy is so hypocritical.
It's the understatement of the day.

croupier101
April 15th, 2009, 6:20 pm
That is true in many ways. In doing the 'in depth' coverage of many news stories even the anchors and reporters tend to get into too much editorializing.

But, while I might complain about it, I admit that I watch much more CNN and Fox News then I do Bloomberg. So, I can't be to high and mighty, because clearly the watching public likes these shows.

I think most of us read the newspapers, or read the news online. We don't need TV news to spoon feed the news to us anymore. We watch cable news to see the interviews the opinions the sparks. etc.

orbitaldecay
April 15th, 2009, 6:20 pm
"A Fox News spokesperson responds to TVNewser, "Judging by their lack of ratings, everyone seems to be anti-CNN.""

:lol:

Hoobeedoo Bejesus
April 15th, 2009, 6:21 pm
They also recently had something like the Fox News Election Day. Guess what... it was a national (not Fox) election.

Fox News Election Day on a banner is no where near the same thing.

They are clearly rebranding this event to claim ownership of it.

oldandtired
April 15th, 2009, 6:21 pm
I disagree.
In close to 40 years in the business, I have never seen or heard of a reporter purposely trying to create a turbulent atmosphere for a story.
That would be both unprofessional and reckless, because the last thing you want to do at a rally of angry people is make them more angry, creating a dangerous situation for you and your crew, as well as the demonstrators.
She didn't have to create a story--the story was there.
I agree with you far more often than I disagree, Croupier, and I respect your views.
But in this instance, we disagree.

As a reporter she asked him a question. He started to answer and she interrupted and asked him what that had to do with her question. He asked to let him finish his naswer and she again interrupted him and started to debate him.

Is that the role of a reporter?

Middy
April 15th, 2009, 6:21 pm
No spin.
Belligerent loudmouths are an occupational hazard at demonstrations, particularly one like this, which was based on anger and resentment to start with.
Again, the reporter did okay, given the situation that arose.
And she was very smart to break away.

And how many demonstrations are not based on anger and resentment? I'm sure the anger at these events will not equal the ferocious Code Pink wackos.

...........but of course, to you, this reporter did okay............What a surprise.

kat
April 15th, 2009, 6:22 pm
"A Fox News spokesperson responds to TVNewser, "Judging by their lack of ratings, everyone seems to be anti-CNN.""

:lol:]


ZING!!

:clap:

shrek
April 15th, 2009, 6:22 pm
I also took that terrible comment to heart. I have brought my daughter to many rallies and other big events. This person handled it much better then I would have if a reporter said that to me with my daughter.

I agree entirely. he showed very good restraint. I see children at Anti War, and Even Pro Gay Marriage rallies all the time.

And while I disagree with the poltiics being displayed there, I see no harm in involving your children in your personal beliefs.

But this reporter obviously did and she let it be known loudly and clearly.

oldandtired
April 15th, 2009, 6:23 pm
Fox News Election Day on a banner is no where near the same thing.

They are clearly rebranding this event to claim ownership of it.

You have the right to see it that way.

It does not mean it was done with that intention.

I, personally, do not see it that way.

Such is the beauty of freedom of choice. Enjoy it while it lasts.

zantax
April 15th, 2009, 6:24 pm
No it shouldn't be, I agree 100%.

But this event was 100% partisan and 0% grassroots.

Since when are grassroots and partisan mutually exclusive?

supreme_war_Pig
April 15th, 2009, 6:25 pm
http://hotair.com/archives/2009/04/15/unreal-cnn-reporter-openly-contemptuous-of-tea-parties/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6G3fvNhdoc0

A tour de force of bias via TV Newser (http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/cnn/cnn_reporter_at_chicago_tea_party_its_anticnn_sinc e_this_is_highly_promoted_by_the_rightwing_conserv ative_network_fox_114141.asp), from her sarcasm to her Fox-bashing to her badgering a guy who’ll be paying off Obama’s monstrous deficits (http://blog.heritage.org/2009/03/24/bush-deficit-vs-obama-deficit-in-pictures/) for decades about why he isn’t satisfied with a $400 tax break this year. The title (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6G3fvNhdoc0) of the clip is “CNN Reporter Roughed Up at Chicago Tea-Party,” which, as you’ll see, is a transparent lie unless you consider the crowd yelling at her to stop cutting off the people she’s interviewing as “rough.” But that’s par for the course for the narrative being organized here: A nasty, violent, ignorant crowd, all doing the bidding of CNN’s sinister competitor. Stay classy, Turnerites.

Two points of note:

1)-CNN....does this count as LMSM? If so, can the whole "LMSM isn't going to cover this" thing go away? Can you Cons agree that the Tea Parties have NOT been ignored?
2)-I think that CNN's "bias" is a nice conterpoint to Fox News' constant drum beat in support of these Tea Parties.

croupier101
April 15th, 2009, 6:26 pm
Croup,

FNC has Shepherd Smiths News hour and the morning news program right after Fox and friends. I would even venture to state that Fox and Friends is more news than opinion.

I really like Shepherd Smith. I just like the guy, and I think he is super fair.

I have to disagree about all the morning shows. I think they are nearly all biased, especially Paula Zahn, Morning Joe, and Fox and Friends.

Today show and Good Morning America just seem cheesy when I watch, like watching Oprah for 3 hours. ;)

goeagles
April 15th, 2009, 6:26 pm
As a reporter she asked him a question. He started to answer and she interrupted and asked him what that had to do with her question. He asked to let him finish his naswer and she again interrupted him and started to debate him.

Is that the role of a reporter?

Sure it is.
It's why Mike and Chris Wallace have been so successful.
You challenge people to get better answers.
Some reporters do it more effectively than others.
We're not used to seeing that style on American TV every day, but it's typical of reporters in Europe.

Long Island Bob
April 15th, 2009, 6:27 pm
In fairnes, while the report was obviously unprofessional on a number of levels (including bias), the reason the thread title "Unreal: CNN reporter openly contemptuous of tea parties" works is because this was bad even by CNN standards.

Thankfully I have not noticed too many of my fellow cons claiming this is TYPICAL of CNN reportage, but rather that it is extreme and revealing.

Tequila
April 15th, 2009, 6:27 pm
She encounted a bunch of belligerent loudmouths, and kept her cool pretty well, considering.
I wouldn't have mentioned Fox.


Biased much?

Regards,
Chas

oldandtired
April 15th, 2009, 6:29 pm
I really like Shepherd Smith. I just like the guy, and I think he is super fair.

I have to disagree about all the morning shows. I think they are nearly all biased, especially Paula Zahn, Morning Joe, and Fox and Friends.

Today show and Good Morning America just seem cheesy when I watch, like watching Oprah for 3 hours. ;)

I can not help it...I have to say it....

Fox and Friends is as biased as they come. I stopped watching them as soon as I realized it.

I like the news on fox from 9-4.....no bias that I am aware of....but I will admit that they would not throw soft balls at Bill Burton during the campaign. He simply refused to answer the hard balls. Used the line "that is not what the AmericanPeople want to hear about"...and moved on.

croupier101
April 15th, 2009, 6:30 pm
I can not help it...I have to say it....

Fox and Friends is as biased as they come. I stopped watching them as soon as I realized it.

I like the news on fox from 9-4.....no bias that I am aware of....but I will admit that they would not throw soft balls at Bill Burton during the campaign. He simply refused to answer the hard balls. Used the line "that is not what the AmericanPeople want to hear about"...and moved on.

The fights between Bill Burton and the tall amazing looking blond anchor were legendary. They absolutely hated each other.

zantax
April 15th, 2009, 6:31 pm
Who doesn't :D


Meh, I'm a Martha MacCallum man myself.

oldandtired
April 15th, 2009, 6:32 pm
Sure it is.
It's why Mike and Chris Wallace have been so successful.
You challenge people to get better answers.
Some reporters do it more effectively than others.
We're not used to seeing that style on American TV every day, but it's typical of reporters in Europe.

Well, seeing as you admit it is not common place here in the states....was it fair to him? He did not ask to be interviewed. She walked up to him and asked him a question. If she siad I want to debate you on national tv, he may have declined.

Im sorry...I appreciate your answer....but I do not agree with it.
She did not do what a traditonal on site reporter does. It was wrong and unprofessional. She seemed to have an agenda to make the news....not report the news.

oldandtired
April 15th, 2009, 6:34 pm
She has a nice voice. I was honestly frightened when I saw her.

To quote the honorable Sir Mix Alot, "Silicone parts are made for toys."

LMAO...
I need to remember that one.

Hey Eagles...she was an SU grad.

oldandtired
April 15th, 2009, 6:35 pm
The fights between Bill Burton and the tall amazing looking blond anchor were legendary. They absolutely hated each other.

I believe you are referring to my fellow Alum..Megyn Kelly. She is a feisty one...thats for sure.

Hoobeedoo Bejesus
April 15th, 2009, 6:37 pm
Since when are grassroots and partisan mutually exclusive?

They aren't.

However, that has absolutely noting to do with my point.

These events are being marketed as non-partisan and grassroots and they are clearly not.

BasicGreatGuy
April 15th, 2009, 6:41 pm
I don't see why this would be considered "big breaking news."

Middy
April 15th, 2009, 6:42 pm
How is this any different than Fox being the official corporate sponsor of the Tea Parties?

You're trying to equate the coverage of these events by Fox to the continuous promotion and advocacy of Obama by the mainstream media? What crap! Official corporate sponsor?.............You are describing CNN, MSNBC as well the network media who are in effect the press agents for Barack Hussein Obama.

Fox is exercising their responsibility to report the news by covering these events that are occurring all over the country. They are doing their job as reporters. ...................And that's why they beat the other cable drones so badly.

There are large crowds attending these "tea parties" in all parts of the country, and it would be journalistic negligence not to cover it.

Long Island Bob
April 15th, 2009, 6:48 pm
Watch the video
It works like this

Rick Santelli, (a bias reporter) gave a sermon against obama spending packages.

the tea party movement was born out of that.

A CNN reporter then, under the guise of interviewing a tea party participant, gave a screed about how great Obama’s tax give back and stimulus package is.

They have their hero and we have ours.




Will CNN info babes EVER understand that the tea parties did not form to protest Obama’s stimulus being too small??? I doubt it?


Will Rick Santelli ever understand bond reporters are supposed to report on the bond market and not give editorials? I doubt it.

They have their hero and we have ours.

shrek
April 15th, 2009, 6:49 pm
I really like Shepherd Smith. I just like the guy, and I think he is super fair.

I have to disagree about all the morning shows. I think they are nearly all biased, especially Paula Zahn, Morning Joe, and Fox and Friends.

Today show and Good Morning America just seem cheesy when I watch, like watching Oprah for 3 hours. ;)

Croup, LOL I agree with Today and Goodmorning America they are indeed very Oprahesque.

I also agree about Shephard, he does not hide the fact that he is liberal. But I have heard him take everyone to task if he feels they are trying to mislead him. and that includes fellow liberals.

I also like his body language, if he disagrees with a news story he lets you know. :D But never acts like the CNN Reporter.

shrek
April 15th, 2009, 6:51 pm
Meh, I'm a Martha MacCallum man myself.

Not bad, I am a sucker for blondes I must say.

Middy
April 15th, 2009, 6:51 pm
They aren't.

However, that has absolutely noting to do with my point.

These events are being marketed as non-partisan and grassroots and they are clearly not.

Clearly to whom? These are strictly grassroot people who planned this over the internet. There is no George Soros billionaire who had anything to do with these events. Fox did not do any financing, regardless of the misinformation you rely on as fact.

And as far as being non-partisan, actually there are some democrats who are participating. This was not organized by the GOP. I know some Independents who are involved in one of these as well.

Miss America
April 15th, 2009, 6:52 pm
Begala is buring on people too..gee..what a surprise...maybe you'd like to respond to him?

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/04/15/begala.taxes/

Trip
April 15th, 2009, 6:53 pm
Listen to the menacing shouting, and watch people starting to move towards her from a couple of directions.
I've been there, and I know what she was sensing.
She got out of there just in time.

The shouting was her presumptions and refusing to let the guy answer the question!

The only person moving on them was the guy with the flag who the interviewee had to ask to stop.

"elgible for a $400 credit" "The state of Lincoln gets a $50 Billion stimulus"

WHERE does she imagine this money is coming from? WHAT does she imagine it does to our liberty? Taking from the populace, present and future, to give back through the government only creates a dependency and steals freedom.

Having to lick the hand that feeds you your own fruits of your own labors is no freedom whatsoever and is a contrived dependency - slavery.



If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.

The liberties of our country, the freedom of our civil Constitution, are worth defending at all hazards; and it is our duty to defend them against all attacks. We have received them as a fair inheritance from our worthy ancestors: they purchased them for us with toil and danger and expense of treasure and blood, and transmitted them to us with care and diligence. It will bring an everlasting mark of infamy on the present generation, enlightened as it is, if we should suffer them to be wrested from us by violence without a struggle, or to be cheated out of them by the artifices of false and designing men.

How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the plain Meaning of Words!


Our founders, like Sam Adams, were correct to recognize a slavery that had no chains nor whip.

Middy
April 15th, 2009, 6:54 pm
Croup, LOL I agree with Today and Goodmorning America they are indeed very Oprahesque.

I also agree about Shephard, he does not hide the fact that he is liberal. But I have heard him take everyone to task if he feels they are trying to mislead him. and that includes fellow liberals.

I also like his body language, if he disagrees with a news story he lets you know. :D But never acts like the CNN Reporter.

Shephard happens to be one liberal with class. (actually the only one I can think of). Comparing this CNN reporter to him?................

goeagles
April 15th, 2009, 6:55 pm
Well, seeing as you admit it is not common place here in the states....was it fair to him? He did not ask to be interviewed. She walked up to him and asked him a question. If she siad I want to debate you on national tv, he may have declined.

Im sorry...I appreciate your answer....but I do not agree with it.
She did not do what a traditonal on site reporter does. It was wrong and unprofessional. She seemed to have an agenda to make the news....not report the news.
He could have declined anyway.
He obviously had anger issues.
I understand what you're saying, but we disagree.

neechidragon
April 15th, 2009, 7:00 pm
I loved it when they guy started to explain the concept of liberty to that hack posing as a journalist and she interrupted, "Sir, sir! What does that have to do with taxes?"

Liberals should be targeted by the DHS for crimes against reality.

Long Island Bob
April 15th, 2009, 7:01 pm
Shephard happens to be one liberal with class. (actually the only one I can think of). Comparing this CNN reporter to him?................


agreed,
in fact I am not sure he is a liberal so much as he is a moderate who champions the down trodden.

he is a very different kind of liberal

Jags~Beach
April 15th, 2009, 7:02 pm
So was she there to report what was going on or argue with the people there representing their view points? She was clearly protesting the protesters protest on camera. I am coming up with all these adjectives in mthead to describe how I feel about what this .... is doing but for the life of me my fingers refuse to type them...

She really ****ed me off.

Hoobeedoo Bejesus
April 15th, 2009, 7:08 pm
You're trying to equate the coverage of these events by Fox to the continuous promotion and advocacy of Obama by the mainstream media? What crap! Official corporate sponsor?.............You are describing CNN, MSNBC as well the network media who are in effect the press agents for Barack Hussein Obama.

Fox is exercising their responsibility to report the news by covering these events that are occurring all over the country. They are doing their job as reporters. ...................And that's why they beat the other cable drones so badly.

There are large crowds attending these "tea parties" in all parts of the country, and it would be journalistic negligence not to cover it.

Pssst... I don't give a **** as I don't support Obama.

Oh and PS, they are not covering, they are actively participating.

Middy
April 15th, 2009, 7:10 pm
Begala is buring on people too..gee..what a surprise...maybe you'd like to respond to him?

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/04/15/begala.taxes/

What a piece of work that creep is. He's really burned about those ratings. He tries to make this a Fox News event because they are covering these large crowds of citizens in all parts of the country that have something to say.

This disingenuous phony brings up nonsense, telling the Fox News reporters to go to Veterans Hospitals. Well, I happen to know that Sean Hannity is very heavily involved in causes that fund college tuitions for the children of fallen soldiers, as well as other causes. He has been doing this for years.

Sean is a patriot of the highest order. His Freedom Concerts held in different parts of the country take a lot of work and effort, and he is glad to do it. He does more for our troops than that CNN puke could imagine.

Long Island Bob
April 15th, 2009, 7:11 pm
first watch interview

http://hotair.com/archives/2009/04/15/unreal-cnn-reporter-openly-contemptuous-of-tea-parties/

then comment









thank GOD that man (in the one sentence and three fragments he was allowed) did not give an eloquent defenseof the santelli inspired tea parties
or an eloquent quesioning of the brack.
if he had his taxes wold ahve been audite.

his license pulled.
his bosses taxes would have been checked over etc. etc.



look, a man on the street hasto be careful these days. make an eloquent anti-obama statement and it could mean the end of your job. the end of your bosses company etc. etc.


smeas it ws if you apposed bush right?

tjvh
April 15th, 2009, 7:13 pm
The talking point of the day seems to be that your taxes are actually lower TODAY than they were under Bush. No forward thinking allowed!

Unless you smoke of course, and etc., etc., etc.....

Trip
April 15th, 2009, 7:14 pm
They aren't.

However, that has absolutely noting to do with my point.

These events are being marketed as non-partisan and grassroots and they are clearly not.

The fact is Republican members have been denied to speak at these events should say volumes about them not being partisan originated. These are grassroots movements despite the support by persons such as Beck and Hannity, who had nothing to do with their origination.

That Democrats have chosen a platform that is in direct conflict with and cause for these movements does not make these "tea parties" partisan.

Jags~Beach
April 15th, 2009, 7:14 pm
She is bringing up the spending as if that is not what the people who are actually forced to pay for it are protesting. She is being inciteful and argumentative to the point of coming of as being protesting of the protestors and the spin is that the protestors are outragious?

She really got me hot.

She brought up stimulous spending that is killing our deficit and she wants to come off as sounding intelligent?

Her inciting the folks there and bringing up Fox news sho's not only her agenda but her rediculousness.

Middy
April 15th, 2009, 7:16 pm
Pssst... I don't give a **** as I don't support Obama.

Oh and PS, they are not covering, they are actively participating.


Every American citizen has a right to participate. Those who are participating are commentators. Their political views are no secret.

The news reporters are doing their job. We know very well that the mainstream media does not do their job when the news is not favorable to their advocate, Obama.

A_K_
April 15th, 2009, 7:18 pm
That kind of confrontation is unprofessional. And the person in the studio saying that reaction was "typical of what we are seeing around the country"

My reaction would be the same being lectured by a reporter.

tocco005
April 15th, 2009, 7:21 pm
This says it all

Wikipedia has this to say about Roesgen---

During the Tea Party protest on Tax Day 2009, Roesgen complained that a sign that showed Obama dressed as Hitler as being offensive.[1]

However, in January 2006 at a protest, she joked about a protester who wore a George W. Bush mask with a Hitler moustache and devil horns.[2]

DaveKlassix
April 15th, 2009, 7:22 pm
No wonder Communist News Network's ratings are dropping so fast. They've gone MSNBC.

A_K_
April 15th, 2009, 7:25 pm
For all those protests where Bush was burned in Effigy and compared to Stalin and Hitler, Obama can take free speech from these crowds.

If the media has a problem with Hitler Obama and not Hitler Bush then they need to learn that if you will defend one as an "expression of free speech", you defend the other expression as just as valid

kat
April 15th, 2009, 7:25 pm
No wonder Communist News Network's ratings are dropping so fast. They've gone MSNBC.

ahem...... that's MSLSD. :angel:

Middy
April 15th, 2009, 7:26 pm
So was she there to report what was going on or argue with the people there representing their view points? She was clearly protesting the protesters protest on camera. I am coming up with all these adjectives in mthead to describe how I feel about what this .... is doing but for the life of me my fingers refuse to type them...

She really ****ed me off.

That poor excuse for a reporter belongs on CNN.........I have never seen a reporter arguing with someone she was interviewing. She ought to be ashamed of herself.....Instead she reacts as if she was wronged.

No wonder CNN is in the basement.

shrek
April 15th, 2009, 7:27 pm
Shephard happens to be one liberal with class. (actually the only one I can think of). Comparing this CNN reporter to him?................

I was not comparing them, Croup had a question asking about specific News shows and not opinion shows on the News Networks so I brought up Shephard Smith.

But I would agree, he is not afraid to question anyone about what they are saying.

I am betting if they ever did Hannity& Smith instead of Hannity and Colmes the ratings would be through the roof because the debates would be truly heated.

:D

Ex_Spy_Guy
April 15th, 2009, 7:32 pm
where is the state of lincoln? that chick was stupid

RWNJ
April 15th, 2009, 7:35 pm
Cincinnati, Ohio

Photos at http://www.rwnj.org/2009/04/15/cincinnati-tea-party-pictures-april-15-2009/

I can tell you now that it was more than went to the March 15 event. I heard an estimate on WLW of 7,000. My ballpark guess would have pressed higher than that just. The square was jam packed and people were filling Vine Street as well, so it was clearly a large crowd. Though I did see some people dressed as if they were there from work, the majority of people seemed dressed to be there for the long haul.

I personally saw a handful of counter-protesters (probably 8 or 9 total). I heard (but did not see) what sounded like 20 or so at one point chanting “O-ba-ma”, but they were quickly drowned out by some chanting of “U. S. A.” One of the counter-protesters I saw was chanting “White Supremacy.” I guess she thought Robert Byrd was coming or something. One carried a sign that said “Republican’s Fore Sell Cry Babies.” At least he spelled cry babies correctly. Most of the others were content to chant “O-ba-ma.” I saw a couple get asked questions like “What has Obama done that you like?” and watched them only come up with answers similar to “You’re a racist.” For the most part the protesters ignored the counter-protesters.

After a few speakers, the group marched from Fountain Square to City Hall. I noted quite a few people looking out of office windows watching and a few even giving thumbs up to the crowd as they marched by. A petition to reject stimulus money was handed over when we arrived at City Hall. The crowd stayed around for a while, chanting (”USA”) and singing (”God Bless America”).

Ex_Spy_Guy
April 15th, 2009, 7:35 pm
lol CNN reporters are stupid...they think there is a state called 'Lincoln' is that the Fifty.....Seventh state?

Jags~Beach
April 15th, 2009, 7:35 pm
That poor excuse for a reporter belongs on CNN.........I have never seen a reporter arguing with someone she was interviewing. She ought to be ashamed of herself.....Instead she reacts as if she was wronged.

No wonder CNN is in the basement.

She seemed to be deliberately trying to incite a riot.

neechidragon
April 15th, 2009, 7:36 pm
I loved Foxnews' response. lol


A Fox News spokesperson responds to TVNewser, "Judging by their lack of ratings, everyone seems to be anti-CNN."

Shawna
April 15th, 2009, 7:55 pm
I loved Foxnews' response. lol

Classic.

You can tell by the way she initially addressed the guy that she was prepared to go after him.

Is this how you "report" the news now?

Notice how she felt the billions in stimulus, our tax dollars, somehow rebuts his point on taxation. An obvious demonstration of a liberal ideology.

Middy
April 15th, 2009, 7:59 pm
where is the state of lincoln? that chick was stupid

That reporter is a moron. During the time the guy tried to speak, he mentioned something about freedom and this so-called reporter interrupted him, asking what that had to do with taxes.

When he again tried to speak, he started to cite something that Lincoln said, and she interruped him again, asking why he isn't happy getting $400 back......Then she mentioned all of the millions of dollars that are going to Lincoln's state by way of the stimulus bill. :doh:

Our resident journalist said she did okay. He also suggested that there was some hint of danger to the reporter, and she was wise to stop. Well, since he idolizes the NYT, I can understand his lack of perception.

There was nothing like that. The voices in the background toward the end sounded like people yelling at this dumb reporter to let the guy speak.

Lee Kington
April 15th, 2009, 8:18 pm
Fox covering various tea parties. A total different demeanor by the reporters. They covered both the cons and libs present. They also mentioned that a large number of those participating were speaking against spending, etc. by libs AND conservative members of Congress.

Quite a different take than the manufactured scene / mood by the hag from CNN.

goeagles
April 15th, 2009, 8:27 pm
Pssst... I don't give a **** as I don't support Obama.

Oh and PS, they are not covering, they are actively participating.

In fact, the remarkable thing is how little participation there was by their news department.
Those weren't news reporters at the scenes, for the most part: they were opinion show hosts, producers from opinion shows, and so-called "special correspondents," who were organizing and promoting the rallies.
It shows how little regard the real journalists at Fox had for this pseudo-populist sham.

ModerateVoice
April 15th, 2009, 8:33 pm
It shows how little regard the real journalists at Fox had for this pseudo-populist sham.

When you were in journalism which specialty did you cover; news or bias?

goeagles
April 15th, 2009, 8:38 pm
When you were in journalism which specialty did you cover; news or bias?
I'm still in journalism, and I cover the news.
The "bias" is a conservative myth.

Ex_Spy_Guy
April 15th, 2009, 8:39 pm
I'm still in journalism, and I cover the news.


Do you know where the state of Lincoln is?

ModerateVoice
April 15th, 2009, 8:41 pm
The "bias" is a conservative myth.

:))

goeagles
April 15th, 2009, 8:42 pm
Do you know where the state of Lincoln is?

Illinois is the state of Lincoln.
It's between Indiana and Iowa.

Trip
April 15th, 2009, 8:45 pm
In fact, the remarkable thing is how little participation there was by their news department.
Those weren't news reporters at the scenes, for the most part: they were opinion show hosts, producers from opinion shows, and so-called "special correspondents," who were organizing and promoting the rallies.
It shows how little regard the real journalists at Fox had for this pseudo-populist sham.

Honestly, we've already had long "shows" of how unprofessionally so-called "real journalists" conduct themselves. But your stellar example of bias always helps to drive the point home.

Ex_Spy_Guy
April 15th, 2009, 8:48 pm
Illinois is the state of Lincoln.
It's between Indiana and Iowa.


GPS coordinates?

ttedNews
April 15th, 2009, 8:53 pm
Did you guys watch the entire video on CNN?

Right before the reporter approaches the guy with the baby, she talks to a guy holding a portrait of hitler and he calls Obama fascist.

She asks : "Why do you say he is fascist?"
He responds: "Because, I think so"

She asks: "But why?"
He responds: "Because he is. Because I think he's a fascist"

Then she annoyingly moves to the guy with the baby.

I agree she was rude to the guy w/ the baby, but after a very intellectual conversation with the "because" guy, I could sort of see why her patience was wearing thin.

goeagles
April 15th, 2009, 8:53 pm
GPS coordinates?
No,thanks.
I'm trying to quit.

shrek
April 15th, 2009, 8:54 pm
In fact, the remarkable thing is how little participation there was by their news department.
Those weren't news reporters at the scenes, for the most part: they were opinion show hosts, producers from opinion shows, and so-called "special correspondents," who were organizing and promoting the rallies.
It shows how little regard the real journalists at Fox had for this pseudo-populist sham.

:)):)):))GoEagles, you just basically stated that FNC is innocent of manufactering the news. You admit they had their news dept involved very little and that those were their were opinion show hosts and the like.

So in other words FNC is not trying to manufacter the news.

Thanks. :D

Note even you had to admit that the CNN reporter trashing FNC was uncalled for.

shrek
April 15th, 2009, 8:56 pm
Did you guys watch the entire video on CNN?

Right before the reporter approaches the guy with the baby, she talks to a guy holding a portrait of hitler and he calls Obama fascist.

She asks : "Why do you say he is fascist?"
He responds: "Because, I think so"

She asks: "But why?"
He responds: "Because he is. Because I think he's a fascist"

Then she annoyingly moves to the guy with the baby.

I agree she was rude to the guy w/ the baby, but after a very intellectual conversation with the "because" guy, I could sort of see why her patience was wearing thin.

Rule #1 of Journalists. Never EVER become the news your there to report it.

She became the news. For that there is no excuse.

goeagles
April 15th, 2009, 8:57 pm
Did you guys watch the entire video on CNN?

Right before the reporter approaches the guy with the baby, she talks to a guy holding a portrait of hitler and he calls Obama fascist.

She asks : "Why do you say he is fascist?"
He responds: "Because, I think so"

She asks: "But why?"
He responds: "Because he is. Because I think he's a fascist"

Then she annoyingly moves to the guy with the baby.

I agree she was rude to the guy w/ the baby, but after a very intellectual conversation with the "because" guy, I could sort of see why her patience was wearing thin.
She ran into some pretty nasty folks.
From what I saw today, they did not seem at all typical of the crowds.
But they were trouble, and she could sense it, as any reporter would.
She was wise to break it off.

ttedNews
April 15th, 2009, 8:58 pm
Rule #1 of Journalists. Never EVER become the news your there to report it.

She became the news. For that there is no excuse.

I am not defending her - unprofessionalism is not good !

Just interesting that Fox News decided to cut that little piece with the "He is fascist just because" guy from the video.

shrek
April 15th, 2009, 9:08 pm
I am not defending her - unprofessionalism is not good !

Just interesting that Fox News decided to cut that little piece with the "He is fascist just because" guy from the video.

I did not watch the FNC video of it, I watched another video. But why should it matter, if FNC did?

The reality is that she broke a journalists rule. And I know your not defending her but you sure seem intent on excusing her.

The reality is she overstepped the line and most everybody can see it.

shrek
April 15th, 2009, 9:10 pm
She ran into some pretty nasty folks.
From what I saw today, they did not seem at all typical of the crowds.
But they were trouble, and she could sense it, as any reporter would.
She was wise to break it off.

Again she did not break it off. She continued reporting right next to these people.

She made her quip about FNC standing mere feet from them.

Again the reason why the crowd got rowdy was because they saw her cutting the guy off and being rude to him.

The moment she stopped cutting the guy off the crowd died down and basically ignored her.

Not the sign of a violent or out of control crowd.

Mohawk5
April 15th, 2009, 9:12 pm
That was sad.

And that's all I have to say about that!

rckirby
April 15th, 2009, 9:16 pm
I did not watch the FNC video of it, I watched another video. But why should it matter, if FNC did?

The reality is that she broke a journalists rule. And I know your not defending her but you sure seem intent on excusing her.

The reality is she overstepped the line and most everybody can see it.

She, like all the MSM reporters, is in the tank for BO.....she is another "useful idiot" expecting some "attaboy" from this administration.....they will be thrown under the bus when they are no longer useful.

She is our own G.E. in a skirt.

Nutnhoney
April 15th, 2009, 9:20 pm
She was unreal.....:rolleyes:...Why ask a question if she wasn't going to shut up long enough to hear his response.....seriously

ogibillm
April 15th, 2009, 9:21 pm
She was unreal.....:rolleyes:...Why ask a question if she wasn't going to shut up long enough to hear his response.....seriously

i'm sorry, was she supposed to just let the man ramble on about whatever he wanted or was she supposed to get answers to specific questions?

zantax
April 15th, 2009, 9:23 pm
I am not defending her - unprofessionalism is not good !

Just interesting that Fox News decided to cut that little piece with the "He is fascist just because" guy from the video.

Ever wonder why you don't see interviews with liberal protestors? Think you could find any nuts in that barrel?

zantax
April 15th, 2009, 9:24 pm
i'm sorry, was she supposed to just let the man ramble on about whatever he wanted or was she supposed to get answers to specific questions?

Ramble on? Go back and time how long she let him speak and get back to us.

neechidragon
April 15th, 2009, 9:25 pm
i'm sorry, was she supposed to just let the man ramble on about whatever he wanted or was she supposed to get answers to specific questions?

Ramble on? Are you stating, here in public, that you too do not see a connection between liberty and taxes? lol

Some people shouldn't be allowed to think.

ogibillm
April 15th, 2009, 9:26 pm
Ramble on? Are you stating, here in public, that you too do not see a connection between liberty and taxes? lol

Some people shouldn't be allowed to think.

it's very clear here that some people don't - they let the radio do it for them.

rckirby
April 15th, 2009, 9:27 pm
i'm sorry, was she supposed to just let the man ramble on about whatever he wanted or was she supposed to get answers to specific questions?

When the hell did he ramble????? She asked a question, and as soon as he tried to answer, she would throw another question out.......

"journalism" my ass.

hailreagan
April 15th, 2009, 9:28 pm
UNBELIEVABLE biased crap...........she's not a journalist. Journalists are supposed to be NEUTRAL.


For all of those defending her..........what if it were reversed????????? hmmmmmm:exclaim:

Trip
April 15th, 2009, 9:29 pm
She ran into some pretty nasty folks.
From what I saw today, they did not seem at all typical of the crowds.
But they were trouble, and she could sense it, as any reporter would.
She was wise to break it off.

Yeah she sensed it alright! :))

She cuts the guy off, wont let him answer, first interrupting asking what taxes have to do with LIBERTY, then interrupting AGAIN with $400 of his own money thrown back at him by the government, the very liberty stolen by the government, then she cuts him off YET AGAIN, throwing more PORK in his face with $50 BILLION of taxpayer money and destructive debt thrown to the state of Lincoln buying partisan favors!

NOT ONLY does Susan Rosen instigate the crowd, and bully the guy she's supposedly 'interviewing' right in front of them, but she throws gasoline on the fire in her responses! She IS the ugliness that inflamed the crowd!