Advice on an AK 47

[Jalend Skyr]

Is this a good deal? Please message me. I just got my CHL (this is not to be used as concealed on my person). I live in Texas so its legal for me. Having it sent to a FFL Dealer.

Brand new Bulgarian Ak74 kit built on A USA receiver. Each rifle ships with cleaning kit, sling, 1 30rd magazine, bayonet, 4 stripper clips, 1 stripper clip guide, and hardcase. 1 year warranty on rifle. FFL required.

http://rapidfire.targetweb.net/cgi-bin/store/agora.cgi/agora.cgi?cart_id=7171118.21608*VQ4oC2&p_id=02099&xm=on&ppinc=big

Just don't want to be taken in by a bogus offer...

[skyyyguy]

Looks pretty good, I may have to get one myself. Be sure to get extra clips while you're at it.

[Jalend Skyr]

The wierd thing is that all the non online shops are selling for 1200. I have found 2 different web sites that have this similar gun... just seemed too cheap to me.

[skyyyguy]

The wierd thing is that all the non online shops are selling for 1200. I have found 2 different web sites that have this similar gun... just seemed too cheap to me.

Yeah, I am a bit concerned about that too. I would check with the BBB to make sure the outfit selling it is legit. Most of the ones I have been looking at are around $900.

[Jalend Skyr]

I am going to use a visa and if it is BS dispute it.

[Gunslinger]

I bought an Arsenal AK SLR-107F for $1100 a few months back and thats one of the better companies.

$650ish seems like a scam at this point.

[sgtmac_46]

Is this a good deal? Please message me. I just got my CHL (this is not to be used as concealed on my person). I live in Texas so its legal for me. Having it sent to a FFL Dealer.

Brand new Bulgarian Ak74 kit built on A USA receiver. Each rifle ships with cleaning kit, sling, 1 30rd magazine, bayonet, 4 stripper clips, 1 stripper clip guide, and hardcase. 1 year warranty on rifle. FFL required.

http://rapidfire.targetweb.net/cgi-bin/store/agora.cgi/agora.cgi?cart_id=7171118.21608*VQ4oC2&p_id=02099&xm=on&ppinc=big

Just don't want to be taken in by a bogus offer...

Buddy of mine bought one three months ago for $650.00 (AK-74 that is...not from the same place).

I really don't suspect a scam.......either he has the gun or he doesn't. If he has the FFL to do business with your FFL, he's not going to be engaging in interstate fraud.

[sgtmac_46]

The wierd thing is that all the non online shops are selling for 1200. I have found 2 different web sites that have this similar gun... just seemed too cheap to me. Those other sites are selling them with the OBAMA price. $650.00 was a reasonable price in October.

[sgtmac_46]

What on earth do you need a weapon like that for?

It fires a 5.45mm round, which is perfect for varmint hunting.

I wouldn't use it for deer hunting, though, it's too small.

[ImNewHere]

Why an AK-47 and not an AR-15?

[Jalend Skyr]

What on earth do you need a weapon like that for?

Varmint repellant :) They get real big here in Texas.

[Nevarwinter]

The going price for an AK just before the ascension of Maobama was around 300 to 500 dollars. 500 was a high end AK.

I got my RPK for 400.00 in june/july (?) of last year. This seems like a decent price.

That rifle looks like a 5.45mm version. Please check that out before you order. The 5.45 ammo is available, and becoming more available by the week.

[Jalend Skyr]

Why an AK-47 and not an AR-15?

Just want one for collection purposes.

[Cav Scout]

Is this a good deal? Please message me. I just got my CHL (this is not to be used as concealed on my person). I live in Texas so its legal for me. Having it sent to a FFL Dealer.

Brand new Bulgarian Ak74 kit built on A USA receiver. Each rifle ships with cleaning kit, sling, 1 30rd magazine, bayonet, 4 stripper clips, 1 stripper clip guide, and hardcase. 1 year warranty on rifle. FFL required.

http://rapidfire.targetweb.net/cgi-bin/store/agora.cgi/agora.cgi?cart_id=7171118.21608*VQ4oC2&p_id=02099&xm=on&ppinc=big

Just don't want to be taken in by a bogus offer...

You do realize that this is an AK-74 not an AK-47, they are very different. The AK 47 shoots 7.62 X 39 the AK 74 shoots a 5.45 X 39, very different. A lot of people do not realize this fact. They are not as popular, but truth be told they are a better rifle.

It is a legit offer and a good price. I feel bad, I bought several and sold them a few years ago and paid less then a C-note each. I should have saved them....

[Jalend Skyr]

You do realize that this is an AK-74 not an AK-47, they are very different. The AK 47 shoots 7.62 X 39 the AK 74 shoots a 5.45 X 39, very different. A lot of people do not realize this fact. They are not as popular, but truth be told they are a better rifle.

It is a legit offer and a good price. I feel bad, I bought several and sold them a few years ago and paid less then a C-note each. I should have saved them....

Wow my dyslexia really pooched me on that one. Thanks for calling that out.

[Cav Scout]

Wow my dyslexia really pooched me on that one. Thanks for calling that out.

No problem, just thought I would warn you before you bought a bunch of ammo that would not chamber.

It is still a good deal, and as Sgt. Mac pointed out they are a very effective varmiter and really fun plinker. What ever you do, do not take cartridge information from Wiki, make sure you talk to a dealer or someone you trust that knows ammo.

Wiki is often wrong, VERY wrong on things of this nature.

[Samm]

You do realize that this is an AK-74 not an AK-47, they are very different. The AK 47 shoots 7.62 X 39 the AK 74 shoots a 5.45 X 39, very different. A lot of people do not realize this fact. They are not as popular, but truth be told they are a better rifle.

It is a legit offer and a good price. I feel bad, I bought several and sold them a few years ago and paid less then a C-note each. I should have saved them....

Beat me by a whisker Scout... I was typing as you were posting... ;)

[Jalend Skyr]

I tell you I really appreciate all of this information. If anyone knows and good net deals around 700 or less for good semi rifles please message me.

[ConstitutionHugger]

What on earth do you need a weapon like that for?

For the hell of it, they are a blast to shoot, nearly indesrtuctible, and it is a right that is protected by the 2A.

[ConstitutionHugger]

Is this a good deal? Please message me. I just got my CHL (this is not to be used as concealed on my person). I live in Texas so its legal for me. Having it sent to a FFL Dealer.

Brand new Bulgarian Ak74 kit built on A USA receiver. Each rifle ships with cleaning kit, sling, 1 30rd magazine, bayonet, 4 stripper clips, 1 stripper clip guide, and hardcase. 1 year warranty on rifle. FFL required.

http://rapidfire.targetweb.net/cgi-bin/store/agora.cgi/agora.cgi?cart_id=7171118.21608*VQ4oC2&p_id=02099&xm=on&ppinc=big

Just don't want to be taken in by a bogus offer...

If you can get it, get it. Since Big Brother was elected the prices have gone thru the roof. I have a 5.56NATO AK that i bought 5yrs ago for $500.
The only drawback to an AK74 vs AK47 is the availibility of ammoas many here have mentioned.
A good thing about that AK is that most parts are interchangible with the AK47 except for the barrel and mag (I think the bolt face is the same but i could be wrong). This is because when that weapon was developed as an answer to the M16, the russians decided to rebarrel the AK47's instead of a completely new rifle, for economic reasons

[Jalend Skyr]

Just got some good news. My friend is giving me his ak47. Assuming what I have researched is correct he can just give it to me with no paper work in TX.

[birddog1]

If you can get it, get it. Since Big Brother was elected the prices have gone thru the roof. I have a 5.56NATO AK that i bought 5yrs ago for $500.
The only drawback to an AK74 vs AK47 is the availibility of ammoas many here have mentioned.
A good thing about that AK is that most parts are interchangible with the AK47 except for the barrel and mag (I think the bolt face is the same but i could be wrong). This is because when that weapon was developed as an answer to the M16, the russians decided to rebarrel the AK47's instead of a completely new rifle, for economic reasons

At the moment it is actually one of the few rounds that most on-line ammo dealers have in stock. Probably easier to find than 7.62x39, .223, or .308 at the moment. It is also dirt cheap at the moment, just saw some on Aimsurplus for $150/1080 rnds. It probably isn't going to be a caliber that you will be able to pick up at the local gun store though, and I am not sure it will ever gain enough status to make it readily available, especially if the Com Bloc nations switch to something else.

It's a lot harder than it use to be to find ammo in any military caliber. The local Wal-mart was completely out of .45 ACP last week and only had a couple of boxes of 9mm.

[birddog1]

Just got some good news. My friend is giving me his ak47. Assuming what I have researched is correct he can just give it to me with no paper work in TX.

If he lives in the same state as you, you should not have any problems doing a Face-to-face transaction. State laws vary so you may want to check it out before taking my free legal which is worth exactly what you pay for it.

[birddog1]

Is this a good deal? Please message me. I just got my CHL (this is not to be used as concealed on my person). I live in Texas so its legal for me. Having it sent to a FFL Dealer.

Brand new Bulgarian Ak74 kit built on A USA receiver. Each rifle ships with cleaning kit, sling, 1 30rd magazine, bayonet, 4 stripper clips, 1 stripper clip guide, and hardcase. 1 year warranty on rifle. FFL required.

http://rapidfire.targetweb.net/cgi-bin/store/agora.cgi/agora.cgi?cart_id=7171118.21608*VQ4oC2&p_id=02099&xm=on&ppinc=big

Just don't want to be taken in by a bogus offer...

If you just want a cheap ugly beater AK get on built on a Romanian kit. They are surely lacking in the fit and finish department but should shoot ok and you can pick one up in the $300-$500 range depending upon the type of furniture you want. Pick up a copy of Shotgun News, plenty of adds for all types of AK variants in it.

[Claymore]

If you just want a cheap ugly beater AK get on built on a Romanian kit. They are surely lacking in the fit and finish department but should shoot ok and you can pick one up in the $300-$500 range depending upon the type of furniture you want. Pick up a copy of Shotgun News, plenty of adds for all types of AK variants in it.


http://www.shotgunnews.com/

[MrShotShot]

Look at the bright side - if you get it, it will be one less firearm that could end up in the hands of the Mexican Drug Cartels.

That's a joke by the way.

[Samm]

Look at the bright side - if you get it, it will be one less firearm that could end up in the hands of the Mexican Drug Cartels.

That's a joke by the way.

But an apt one. ;)

[Cav Scout]

If you can get it, get it. Since Big Brother was elected the prices have gone thru the roof. I have a 5.56NATO AK that i bought 5yrs ago for $500.
The only drawback to an AK74 vs AK47 is the availibility of ammoas many here have mentioned.
A good thing about that AK is that most parts are interchangible with the AK47 except for the barrel and mag (I think the bolt face is the same but i could be wrong). This is because when that weapon was developed as an answer to the M16, the russians decided to rebarrel the AK47's instead of a completely new rifle, for economic reasons

Actually no.


The idea of the reduced caliber ammunition for military shoulder arms was played with for a very long time. Each time the technology leaped forward, the standard calibers were reduced - from the 0.45 - 0.50 inch (11.4 - 12.7mm) of the mid-1800 to the .30 of the mid-1900s. The idea of further reduction of the caliber down to 6.5 - 5.6 mm (.240 - .220 inch) was also considered in many countries since the beginning of the XX century, but it was not until the 1960s when the idea of the low impulse, small-caliber, high velocity round came up to something real. When US Army adopted the M16 (http://world.guns.ru/assault/as18-e.htm) rifle in the mid-1960s, everybody else eyed Americans with interest. And as soon as the idea of small caliber rifle was found worthwhile, the total rearming began.
Soviet army started the development of its own small-caliber ammunition in the early 1960s. After some years of development, a new round was created. This round featured a bottlenecked, tapered case 39mm long made of steel, loaded with slim, relatively long bullet with nominal caliber of 5.45mm (actual bullet diameter is 5.62 mm). The bullet featured a combined steel and lead core with the hollow nose, muzzle velocity from the 415mm barrel was about 900 m/s. It must be noted that the new 5.45mm ammunition featured a new case of smaller diameter (compared to 7.62x39 M43 cartridges); this allowed for lighter round and also solved the problem of loading of the 7.62mm ammunition into the 5.45mm weapon by mistake (which otherwwise might result in a catastrophical failure of the weapon).
As soon as the new ammunition was available and accepted by the Soviet Military, it was decided to develop a new family of small arms around this cartridge, and an official requirements for new family of small arms were issued to all development organizations in 1966. Trials of new weapons commenced in 1968, and it must be note that most rifles, submitted for trials, were of highly advanced designs, as the main goal of the new weapon was to significantly improve hits probability (compared to 7.62mm AKM (http://world.guns.ru/assault/as01-e.htm) rifles). Most weapons were build using so called "balanced action", in which additional mass is added to the action to counter-recoil synchronously with the bolt group, to minimize its effect on the gun stability. About the only weapon of the more or less conventional design was the entry by Kalashnikov team - this was more or less the old AKM (http://world.guns.ru/assault/as01-e.htm) rifle, adapted for new 5.45mm ammunition.
After extensive and torturing tests two weapons were put forward for extended troop trials - the conventional A-3 assault rifle by Kalashnikov and 'balanced action' SA-006 rifle by Konstantinov. During field trials the latter was found to be much more accurate (and thus more combat-effective), especially in the hands of the average trained soldiers, while being adequately reliable. Despite that, trials commission have recommended the Kalashnikov entry for adoption, as its design was already familiar to both industry and troops, and possibility of teething problems during production and use was relatively low, compared with entirely new design by Konstantinov. New Kalashnikov rifle also was simpler in design, lighter and somewhat cheaper to manufacture.
Following the decision of trials commission, Kalashnikov 5.45mm assault rifle was officially adopted by Soviet army early in 1974 as" 5.45mm Avtomat Kalashnikova, obraztsa 1974 goda (AK-74)". Basically, it was the same old AKM (http://world.guns.ru/assault/as01-e.htm) weapon, adapted to smaller 5.45mm ammunition and fitted with relatively large muzzle brake. Another distinguishing feature was found on the buttstock, in the form of two lightening oval cuts on either side. The folding butt version, known as AKS-74, which was intended for airborne troops, also featured a new type of folding buttstock - instead of the earlier pattern of underfolding stock, found on 7.62mm AKMS rifles, the AKS-74 featured more rigid and robust side-folding metallic buttstock, which folded to the left side of the gun.
Early production guns featured polymer pistol grips and wooden buttstocks and handguards. Later in production all furniture was made from polymer The "Night" version, known as AK-74N, was manufactured with the night /IR scope rail added to the left side of the receiver. The latest variation of the AK-74 family was introduced circa 1991 and replaced in production both AK-74 and AKS-74. It was the AK-74M rifle, which is still in production and currently is a standard issue rifle of the Russian army. The AK-74M externally differs from the AK-74 of late 1980s production by having the side-folding, solid black plastic buttstock and the scope rail, mounted on the left receiver as as a standard. Some minor improvements also were made in the production process and external finish of the new rifle. AK-74M retained almost all advantages and disadvantages of the earlier Kalashnikov designs, including reliability, simplicity of operations and maintenance, and less than ideal "human engineering" and ergonomics. At the present time the AK-74M, along with earlier AK-74/AKS-74 is the standard shoulder arm of the Russian Army. The plans of replacing it with the widely advertised Nikonov AN-94 (http://world.guns.ru/assault/as08-e.htm) assault rifle were not carried out to any significant extent - the AN-94 is (and most probably will be) issued only certain "elite" units of the Russian Army, police and the Internal Affairs Ministry troops. The AK-74 type, 5.45mm assault rifles also were manufactured in the East Germany, Bulgaria, Poland and Romania. Most of these designs after the dissolution of the Warsaw Pact were converted to the 5.56mm NATO ammunition.

[Cav Scout]

Beat me by a whisker Scout... I was typing as you were posting... ;)

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