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ddye
March 31st, 2009, 7:07 pm
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/polls/postpoll_033109.html?hpid=topnews

Obama overall job approval - 66/29

On the economy - 60/38
Federal budget deficit - 52/43
International Affairs - 62/27

Blame for the economic situation:
Banks - 80
Bush - 70
Business - 80
Consumers - 72
Obama - 26

"How confident are you that Obama's economic program will improve the economy?"
64/35

Here's the one that will kill the right:
"Do you have a favorable or unfavorable impression of Michelle Obama?"
76/16

And to close:
"Who do you trust to do a better job handling the economy - (Obama) or (the Republicans in Congress)?"
Obama 58/GOP 25

See that 25%? That's the righties here, I guess.

Doug

Kermit McDermitt
March 31st, 2009, 7:14 pm
I'm not sure I really trust a newspaper poll.

I think rasmussen is probably the only credible polling left.

Residential Bob
March 31st, 2009, 7:15 pm
Yup. The masses are ignorant.

ddye
March 31st, 2009, 7:17 pm
I'm not sure I really trust a newspaper poll.

I think rasmussen is probably the only credible polling left.
Polls are generally paid for. It is completely against a pollster's self interest to intentionally skew a poll. It would ruin their credibility.

People just seem to like and trust Obama, and you can see the righties' representation here in that persistent 20-30% negative that keeps showing up.

Doug

ModerateVoice
March 31st, 2009, 7:17 pm
What a shocker! The Washington Post, who has a bias favorable to the Obama adminstration releases a poll showing favorable numbers for the Obama administration.

Right-wing conspiracy thinking you say?

Here is a Washington Post admission that they favored Obama in coverage during the election season.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/07/AR2008110702895.html

ddye
March 31st, 2009, 7:17 pm
Yup. The masses are ignorant.
People who disagree with you are stupid?

Gotcha.

Doug

ALBOB2
March 31st, 2009, 7:18 pm
What in the world does people's opinion of Michelle Obama have to do with ANYTHING???

ddye
March 31st, 2009, 7:18 pm
What a shocker! The Washington Post, who has a bias favorable to the Obama adminstration releases a poll showing favorable numbers for the Obama administration.

Right-wing conspiracy thinking you say?

Here is a Washington Post admission that they favored Obama in coverage during the election season.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/07/AR2008110702895.html
Wow, THAT'S what you're going with? Okaaaaaay...

Doug

Miss America
March 31st, 2009, 7:18 pm
Maybe they ought to run some of those polls in the subburbs...they might get a very different result..

ddye
March 31st, 2009, 7:19 pm
What in the world does people's opinion of Michelle Obama have to do with ANYTHING???
Nothing really, I just thought it was interesting as a representation of how out of touch the right here is these days.

What would a poll about Michelle Obama HERE look like?

Doug

OIVORY
March 31st, 2009, 7:19 pm
Doug,

I wonder if you could interpret this one for me...

And to close:
"Who do you trust to do a better job handling the economy - (Obama) or (the Republicans in Congress)?"
Obama 58/GOP 25

See that 25%? That's the righties here, I guess.


Who do you figure the 17% unaccounted for trust?

Why do 12% of people who approve of his job performance not trust him to handle the economy?

Why do 10% of people who believe Obama's plan to improve the economy not trust him to handle the economy?

Miss America
March 31st, 2009, 7:20 pm
those numbers are a little higher than the averages..of the major polls



http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval-1044.html

Trinka
March 31st, 2009, 7:20 pm
I too question newspaper polls..... there are alot of numbers there in the middle about blame for the crisis....they add up to way more than 100% and the rep. don't run congress any more....they don't even have enough to stop the power grab going on here....so this is another poll based on unimformed voters....who are they polling? first graders?

Gospel Checker
March 31st, 2009, 7:20 pm
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/polls/postpoll_033109.html?hpid=topnews

Obama overall job approval - 66/29

On the economy - 60/38
Federal budget deficit - 52/43
International Affairs - 62/27

Blame for the economic situation:
Banks - 80
Bush - 70
Business - 80
Consumers - 72
Obama - 26

"How confident are you that Obama's economic program will improve the economy?"
64/35

Here's the one that will kill the right:
"Do you have a favorable or unfavorable impression of Michelle Obama?"
76/16

And to close:
"Who do you trust to do a better job handling the economy - (Obama) or (the Republicans in Congress)?"
Obama 58/GOP 25

See that 25%? That's the righties here, I guess.

Doug


Wait. Are the people voting in these polls the same people that think they won't have to make house or car payments anymore?

cyph3r7
March 31st, 2009, 7:21 pm
bookmarking this thread

I suspect it will be the equivalent to "rove indicted" in less than a year.

Kermit McDermitt
March 31st, 2009, 7:22 pm
Rasmussen last I checked showed his approval at 56%. Do you think that is fantastic for a new president?

Even if a polling firm isn't biased (which isn't the case), they can still have their estimations wrong, and hardly any washington post poll is ever accurate in regards to the results of an election.

ddye
March 31st, 2009, 7:23 pm
Doug,

I wonder if you could interpret this one for me...



Who do you figure the 17% unaccounted for trust?
Read the link, the 17% was "neither".

Why do 12% of people who approve of his job performance not trust him to handle the economy?
They like Obama, but some people are unsure about his economic plan?

Why do 10% of people who believe Obama's plan to improve the economy not trust him to handle the economy?
I don't know what you mean, unless you're comparing Obama vs. the Republicans in Congress with a specific question about Obama.

Doug

OIVORY
March 31st, 2009, 7:23 pm
Rasmussen last I checked showed his approval at 56%. Do you think that is fantastic for a new president?

Even if a polling firm isn't biased (which isn't the case), they can still have their estimations wrong, and hardly any washington post poll is ever accurate in regards to the results of an election.

Rasmussen had him at 59% today, up from his floor of 55%.

ModerateVoice
March 31st, 2009, 7:23 pm
Wow, THAT'S what you're going with? Okaaaaaay...

Doug

Oh, I don't know Doug, when the paper itself admits the bias I consider that a good source. When I do a Google search on "Washington Post bias" and the only articles that come up are about the Post's bias towards the left or articles written about the Post's bias towards the left, I am not drawing any conclusions that the post digs the conservative crowd.

Gospel Checker
March 31st, 2009, 7:24 pm
What about the democrats in congress? They're the ones with all the power right now. Why aren't they the option instead of republicans in congress?

ddye
March 31st, 2009, 7:25 pm
I too question newspaper polls..... there are alot of numbers there in the middle about blame for the crisis....they add up to way more than 100%
Obviously some people blame more than just one of the people/entities mentioned.

...and the rep. don't run congress any more....they don't even have enough to stop the power grab going on here....so this is another poll based on unimformed voters....who are they polling? first graders?
The GOP is still talking to the press, you certainly can see that they disapprove of Obama's plan. That's what I make of that, it's pretty obvious to me.

Doug

bonchie
March 31st, 2009, 7:26 pm
I could really care less.

If clinging to approval numbers makes you feel good then ok. It does crap for me when the economy is tanking and the government is moving more and more towards nationalization of private enterprise.

cyph3r7
March 31st, 2009, 7:26 pm
What about the democrats in congress? They're the ones with all the power right now. Why aren't they the option instead of republicans in congress?

because when their numbers show up as bad as the republicans, lemmings can't run out and post it on conservative forums.

ddye
March 31st, 2009, 7:26 pm
What about the democrats in congress? They're the ones with all the power right now. Why aren't they the option instead of republicans in congress?
Their approval was in the mid 40s. the last time I saw a poll about it.

Doug

goeagles
March 31st, 2009, 7:27 pm
Maybe they ought to run some of those polls in the subburbs...they might get a very different result..
They do run them in the suburbs, and in the cities, and the exurbs, and the rural areas.

johnrocks
March 31st, 2009, 7:27 pm
He's still on his "honeymoon". I want to see the one from March 31, 2010.

CJHoward
March 31st, 2009, 7:28 pm
People who disagree with you are stupid?

Gotcha.

Doug

I understand there are some here, who will use polls to prove their point. But unless your point is that Obama is well liked etc.. etc.. this poll doesn't prove anything else.

For instance, if someone did a poll in 1491 asking if the world was flat. gues what? They'd still be wrong.

ressurectedUltraSaiyanUSA
March 31st, 2009, 7:28 pm
when the US economy collapses by september/october, i will go back to this poll and laugh so hard.

Gospel Checker
March 31st, 2009, 7:28 pm
Their approval was in the mid 40s. the last time I saw a poll about it.

Doug


Hmmm.. last time I saw one Congress was below 10. It's the same group of losers. How have they improved?

bonchie
March 31st, 2009, 7:29 pm
They do run them in the suburbs, and in the cities, and the exurbs, and the rural areas.

No, this was totally random.

"This Washington Post-ABC News poll was conducted by telephone Mar. 26-29, 2009, among a random national sample of 1,000 adults including landline and cell phone-only respondents."

No party lines, no demographics. They called 1000 people chosen at random.

KeithBlubberman
March 31st, 2009, 7:30 pm
Polls are generally paid for. It is completely against a pollster's self interest to intentionally skew a poll. It would ruin their credibility.

People just seem to like and trust Obama, and you can see the righties' representation here in that persistent 20-30% negative that keeps showing up.

Doug

If you're hired by a client, and paid by the client, you typically give them what they want. Ruins their credibility? How so? A pollster can skew numbers all they want, all day long, and how will anyone know any better, unless they hire a 2nd firm to redo the poll?

Do you know their polling techniques, sampling techniques? sample size? how about the way the questions were phrased?

Yeah, I just laugh when you throw your poll out there. Aren't you the one that constantly moans and bitches about how partisan people are, and how there is little real debate on here? Yet, what was the real purpose for throwing this thread out there, and then adding the side comments about the "right", etc?

I'll bookmark this poll and ask you in a year how those numbers are looking for you.

ddye
March 31st, 2009, 7:31 pm
I understand there are some here, who will use polls to prove their point. But unless your point is that Obama is well liked etc.. etc.. this poll doesn't prove anything else.
Pretty much, yeah. After all of the threads trashing Obama for everything from the way he pronounces the names of countries to what he eats for dinner (literally), I thought I'd point out that the righties here don't find a lot of agreement with them in the real USA.

Plus, since I see a thread about it every time Obama's numbers drop by a percentage point, I thought it was fair play.

Doug

Middy
March 31st, 2009, 7:32 pm
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/polls/postpoll_033109.html?hpid=topnews

Obama overall job approval - 66/29

On the economy - 60/38
Federal budget deficit - 52/43
International Affairs - 62/27

Blame for the economic situation:
Banks - 80
Bush - 70
Business - 80
Consumers - 72
Obama - 26

"How confident are you that Obama's economic program will improve the economy?"
64/35

Here's the one that will kill the right:
"Do you have a favorable or unfavorable impression of Michelle Obama?"
76/16

And to close:
"Who do you trust to do a better job handling the economy - (Obama) or (the Republicans in Congress)?"
Obama 58/GOP 25

See that 25%? That's the righties here, I guess.

Doug


You said this on another thread regarding The Fox Nation:


It seems to be a website that exists to validate conservatives' political views by telling you what you want to hear.

How many people make millions by making their customers feel smart?

Doug


Back to you:

So the Washington Post made millions telling their liberal customers what they want to hear and making them believe they're smart. So puff out your chest and gloat, smarty!

Gospel Checker
March 31st, 2009, 7:32 pm
I'm still trying to figure out who are the people that think spending 10 trillion dollars of money we don't have is going to help the deficit, other than help the deficit grow.

rckirby
March 31st, 2009, 7:33 pm
Doug,

You know that there is a very large majority out there who don't read the papers, who get any news they do get from anyone but fox.

I had a guy come into my office the other day, and in the course of conversation, I made a comment about the horrible economy. (As a background, #1, I work for a very profitable company, for now, and the union workers get paid very well. And #2, this guy says he only gets basic cable, i.e. local stations and admits he doesn't watch the news that much).

I told him he needed to expand his horizons somewhat. Time was limited, so I gave him the Drudge report site and this site to help him try to learn more about what iss going on.

I know, I know.....you think they are partisan.....just doing my patriotic duty :)

He poked his head in the other day (unfortunately alot of people were around, so I couldn't really talk to h), but he thanked me and said he was really learning a lot.

Many of us here are spoiled. We can come here to at least get some intelligent "left" conversation, and learn about the other side. Then we can make up our own minds after reading links, or doing our own research.

We, here on this forum, are way above average on knowledge of current events.

Anywho, that is why I question ANY poll these days.

mom4conservatives
March 31st, 2009, 7:34 pm
Nothing really, I just thought it was interesting as a representation of how out of touch the right here is these days.

What would a poll about Michelle Obama HERE look like?

Doug

A poll here about Michelle Obama would be ridiculous but true and I am sure some of the posts that would be made by us "conservatives". True in the sense that it would exists like her new garden at the white house that you know she will never tend too.

KeithBlubberman
March 31st, 2009, 7:34 pm
Pretty much, yeah. After all of the threads trashing Obama for everything from the way he pronounces the names of countries to what he eats for dinner (literally), I thought I'd point out that the righties here don't find a lot of agreement with them in the real USA.

Plus, since I see a thread about it every time Obama's numbers drop by a percentage point, I thought it was fair play.

Doug

So, you're basically saying you were just trolling - not really starting the thread, looking any real debate on any issues. Just basically to try and **** people off...

ddye
March 31st, 2009, 7:34 pm
You said this on another thread regarding The Fox Nation:


It seems to be a website that exists to validate conservatives' political views by telling you what you want to hear.

How many people make millions by making their customers feel smart?

Doug


Back to you:

So the Washington Post made millions telling their liberal customers what they want to hear and making them believe they're smart. So puff out your chest and gloat, smarty!
That would make more sense if the Washington Post's employees (or better yet, their Editorial Board) were the ones making the polling calls.

I believe that a newspaper's editorial policy is completely removed from their news division, generally, although I imagine there's a little spillover sometimes.

Doug

CountryGirl
March 31st, 2009, 7:35 pm
It's from The Washington Post - which slants so far to the left that you have to crook your neck sideways to read it - and includes no demographic info other than the number of people polled.

If I'm wanting to look at a poll, I go to Rasmussen. They've been the closest in election polling for the last two election cycles, including the mid-term elections.

rckirby
March 31st, 2009, 7:36 pm
I'm still trying to figure out who are the people that think spending 10 trillion dollars of money we don't have is going to help the deficit, other than help the deficit grow.

That's the point................stop any "man on the street" and they have NO IDEA how much is being spent. Hell, I'd venture a guess that they STILL don't know who is VP!!!!!

Yet, these people take polls.........and even worse, they VOTE.

Residential Bob
March 31st, 2009, 7:36 pm
when the US economy collapses by september/october, i will go back to this poll and laugh so hard.And the ignorant masses will still praise Obama and his democrats.

ddye
March 31st, 2009, 7:37 pm
So, you're basically saying you were just trolling - not really starting the thread, looking any real debate on any issues. Just basically to try and **** people off...
Wow, is "trolling" the new "I have nothing I can refute here" for you guys?

If hundreds of threads trashing Obama and calling his solutions unworkable is OK here, so are threads showing that that viewpoint is held by a very, VERY small minority.

Doug

OIVORY
March 31st, 2009, 7:37 pm
Read the link, the 17% was "neither". Since neither doesn't mean nobody, who do you think they trust?

They like Obama, but some people are unsure about his economic plan?
I think that is just it. They like Obama. I figure he could invade Pakistan, take a dump on the Lincoln Memorial and fold the constitution into an airplane, and people would still like him. I am not sure approval ratings really mean that much for this president. He is just well liked, and doing his job poorly won't affect it that much.


I don't know what you mean, unless you're comparing Obama vs. the Republicans in Congress with a specific question about Obama.

Doug
More people like the way Obama is dealing with the economy than trust Obama to fix the economy. Here see again, do you like Obama? YES YES YES we love Obama, but when it comes down to brass tax, the responses become more negative....

Obama hasn't yet lost his appeal, although even your poll shows it waining.

ddye
March 31st, 2009, 7:38 pm
And the ignorant masses will still praise Obama and his democrats.
So I was right, people who disagree with your are "stupid", or more accurately, "ignorant".

Gotcha. :rolleyes:

Doug

KeithBlubberman
March 31st, 2009, 7:38 pm
That's the point................stop any "man on the street" and they have NO IDEA how much is being spent. Hell, I'd venture a guess that they STILL don't know who is VP!!!!!

Yet, these people take polls.........and even worse, they VOTE.

Yeah, its too bad that there isn't a minimum proficiency test given before someone is allowed to vote. Course, then the dem sheeple wouldn't be allowed to vote.

KeithBlubberman
March 31st, 2009, 7:39 pm
Wow, is "trolling" the new "I have nothing I can refute here" for you guys?

If hundreds of threads trashing Obama and calling his solutions unworkable is OK here, so are threads showing that that viewpoint is held by a very, VERY small minority.

Doug

So, I guess you admit you're just trolling then?

Residential Bob
March 31st, 2009, 7:40 pm
So I was right, people who disagree with your are "stupid", or more accurately, "ignorant".

Gotcha. :rolleyes:

DougYes, you were right. You're not stupid all the way.

Or is it ignorant?

bonchie
March 31st, 2009, 7:41 pm
So I was right, people who disagree with your are "stupid", or more accurately, "ignorant".

Gotcha. :rolleyes:

Doug

Stupid is black or white. Not being stupid isn't a right held by the majority.

If you believe running up trillions of dollars in debt along with major government intervention into private companies is the right way to go then yes you are stupid, and whether I'm in the minority or not is irrelevant.

BasicGreatGuy
March 31st, 2009, 7:41 pm
Are we to do govern ourselves based on stupid polls? If that isn't the cause for rallying to them so much, what is the fascination with polls?

ddye
March 31st, 2009, 7:45 pm
Are we to do govern ourselves based on stupid polls? If that isn't the cause for rallying to them so much, what is the fascination with polls?
BGG, just because we are not governed by polls doesn't mean that they are worthless. Polls provide a snapshot of public opinion at a point in time.

In this case this poll illustrates that despite, "My cousin regrets voting for Obama", and "Everybody knows Obama is a Marxist" attitudes here, that opinion is held by a irrelevant minority of Americans at this time.

I don't like coconut, but that doesn't mean that anyone who DOES like coconut is worthless. Sorry if you don't approve of polls.

Doug

OIVORY
March 31st, 2009, 7:47 pm
That's the point................stop any "man on the street" and they have NO IDEA how much is being spent. Hell, I'd venture a guess that they STILL don't know who is VP!!!!!

Yet, these people take polls.........and even worse, they VOTE.

This is probably the scariest reality of all the polls.

Educated liberals make bad decisions based on facts.

I can live with that.

The uneducated voters really bother me (yes, regardless of which way they vote). There really should be mandatory research time before you can vote. At least so you know that prop 1A will set a spending limit AND keep taxes higher 2 more years. (or whatever you are voting for...)

Trinka
March 31st, 2009, 7:48 pm
Wow, is "trolling" the new "I have nothing I can refute here" for you guys?

If hundreds of threads trashing Obama and calling his solutions unworkable is OK here, so are threads showing that that viewpoint is held by a very, VERY small minority.

Doug

Even You said You started this thread just to ....? Irritate us? I question....if...someone feels this strongly against everything this forum stands for...then why come here? Just to call us names and get your daily fix of beat up on the right? I don't get it...I don't go to the lib sites and stir up trouble....cause I can't stand that kind of crap! So what's your point?

simssk
March 31st, 2009, 7:48 pm
Seeing that most americans get their news from ABC, CBS, and NBC - all who wouldn't know unbiased reporting if it hit them in the face - the results of this poll are not surprising in the least.

rckirby
March 31st, 2009, 7:49 pm
Are we to do govern ourselves based on stupid polls? If that isn't the cause for rallying to them so much, what is the fascination with polls?

Here's the thing BGG....Bush didn't give a crap about polls or his "popularity"....he did what he thought was right. (Whether we all agreed or not)...Have to give him credit.

I think BO and his advisors wake up every morning, licks a finger and sticks it in the air, (aka reading the polls).

I'm sure when he reads these "polls" saying that 60% of the people agree, that gives him the fortitude to forge ahead with his socialist agenda.

Out of 300 million people, a poll asks 1000 people?????

Meaningless IMO.

The only poll that counts is coming up in 2010 and 2012.

sweet92169
March 31st, 2009, 7:49 pm
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/polls/postpoll_033109.html?hpid=topnews

Obama overall job approval - 66/29

On the economy - 60/38
Federal budget deficit - 52/43
International Affairs - 62/27

Blame for the economic situation:
Banks - 80
Bush - 70
Business - 80
Consumers - 72
Obama - 26

"How confident are you that Obama's economic program will improve the economy?"
64/35

Here's the one that will kill the right:
"Do you have a favorable or unfavorable impression of Michelle Obama?"
76/16

And to close:
"Who do you trust to do a better job handling the economy - (Obama) or (the Republicans in Congress)?"
Obama 58/GOP 25

See that 25%? That's the righties here, I guess.

Doug

Sorry, gotta go with Rasmussen on polls. The Washington Post was pretty much in the tank for Obama since the very beginning. I would rather be part of the 25%( u know the righties here) because at least I am well informed. The 58% who said Obama, probably don't even know know who the vice-pres. is., let alone know anything about what is actually going on with the country right now.

ddye
March 31st, 2009, 7:50 pm
Even You said You started this thread just to ....? Irritate us? I question....if...someone feels this strongly against everything this forum stands for...
OK, exactly what does this forum "stand for"? Did you write the Mission Statement or something?

Doug

Mohawk5
March 31st, 2009, 7:51 pm
A poll from the Compost?

I say we look else where for this data.

BasicGreatGuy
March 31st, 2009, 7:54 pm
BGG, just because we are not governed by polls doesn't mean that they are worthless. Polls provide a snapshot of public opinion at a point in time.

In this case this poll illustrates that despite, "My cousin regrets voting for Obama", and "Everybody knows Obama is a Marxist" attitudes here, that opinion is held by a irrelevant minority of Americans at this time.

I don't like coconut, but that doesn't mean that anyone who DOES like coconut is worthless. Sorry if you don't approve of polls.

Doug

The GOP members play the same game Doug. I believe it is a waste of time either way. I see it as media manipulation and a way for either side to try and bolster their supposed argument.

I understand your point. Hannity land is not "reality" of the political landscape. I think your core point could be made without relying on another meaningless poll Doug.

ddye
March 31st, 2009, 7:57 pm
The GOP members play the same game Doug. I believe it is a waste of time either way. I see it as media manipulation and a way for either side to try and bolster their supposed argument.

I understand your point. Hannity land is not "reality" of the political landscape. I think your core point could be made without relying on another meaningless poll Doug.
Yeah, like anything written here is in any way a productive use of anyone's time... :))

Just kidding BGG!

Doug

bonchie
March 31st, 2009, 7:58 pm
Polls are generally paid for. It is completely against a pollster's self interest to intentionally skew a poll. It would ruin their credibility.

People just seem to like and trust Obama, and you can see the righties' representation here in that persistent 20-30% negative that keeps showing up.

Doug

And yet in the last election, with everything possible going against the GOP, they garnered 47% against Obama.

So if your assertion is that "righties" only make up 20% of the population I'd call bs.

The numbers likely haven't changed much since the election.

TexCon4Evr
March 31st, 2009, 8:00 pm
Nothing really, I just thought it was interesting as a representation of how out of touch the right here is these days.

What would a poll about Michelle Obama HERE look like?

Doug


I don't think the "right" here is out of touch. I think these pollsters need to poll others besides big urban sprawls on the east/west coast. Get down here to Texas and you'll see an approval rating much lower than this one.

Trinka
March 31st, 2009, 8:00 pm
OK, exactly what does this forum "stand for"? Did you write the Mission Statement or something?

Doug

Define trolling............

My question was since you obviouly hate the righ so much why do you come here? and why did you say you started this thread? I have never started a thread just to make some one mad....I don't think any one should....I don't come here just to call people names and put them down....and this is making me want to say things that the mods wouldn't like sooooooooo I am out of here! Your thread isn't worth a ban to me !

ddye
March 31st, 2009, 8:01 pm
And yet in the last election, with everything possible going against the GOP, they garnered 47% against Obama.

So if your assertion is that "righties" only make up 20% of the population I'd call bs.

The numbers likely haven't changed much since the election.
Frankly, I think that this was the ONLY year that a black man could have been elected President for the first time.

And as is often noted here, McCain wasn't exactly a hard rightie by any means.

Doug

rckirby
March 31st, 2009, 8:02 pm
I don't think the "right" here is out of touch. I think these pollsters need to poll others besides big urban sprawls on the east/west coast. Get down here to Texas and you'll see an approval rating much lower than this one.

#1: I work everyday...so I won't be home to "take a poll" on my house phone.

#2: I don't answer my cellphone while I'm working.

'nuff said.

ddye
March 31st, 2009, 8:04 pm
Define trolling............

My question was since you obviouly hate the righ so much why do you come here? and why did you say you started this thread? I have never started a thread just to make some one mad....I don't think any one should....I don't come here just to call people names and put them down....and this is making me want to say things that the mods wouldn't like sooooooooo I am out of here! Your thread isn't worth a ban to me !
I don't hate the right, I frankly hate extremists on either side. And I find it curious that person who supposedly doesn't like hateful threads has never complained about the hundreds of threads savaging Obama, and people who approve of him.

But hey, enjoy your Hannity Forum experience!

Doug

TexCon4Evr
March 31st, 2009, 8:04 pm
#1: I work everyday...so I won't be home to "take a poll" on my house phone.

#2: I don't answer my cellphone while I'm working.

'nuff said.

That's the damn truth. I've never been polled ONCE in my entire life and I've been a registered voter since I was 18. I'm now 50. Where do these people polled live???

TexCon4Evr
March 31st, 2009, 8:05 pm
Frankly, I think that this was the ONLY year that a black man could have been elected President for the first time.



Why do you think this?

rckirby
March 31st, 2009, 8:07 pm
Frankly, I think that this was the ONLY year that a black man could have been elected President for the first time.

And as is often noted here, McCain wasn't exactly a hard rightie by any means.

Doug

True. Those of us here (righties mostly) held their collective noses for McCain. We admit we weren't happy with republican actions.

And there were millions who never normally bother to vote coming out in droves to be "part of history"......it was no accident.....just ignorant and uninformed.......Change.......

Election Watcher
March 31st, 2009, 8:12 pm
I don't hate the right, I frankly hate extremists on either side. And I find it curious that person who supposedly doesn't like hateful threads has never complained about the hundreds of threads savaging Obama, and people who approve of him.

But hey, enjoy your Hannity Forum experience!

Doug

Doug, Doug, Doug, Doug, Doug......
When will you learn? :dance:
But I do enjoy following your exploits.
Rock on.

Guvnah
March 31st, 2009, 8:21 pm
Safety in numbers.

Polls like this are like kids at a frat party. "Come on, man... Take a hit... EVERYONE is doing it..."

Right now, collective mob ignorance is about all the lefties have. They know it.

The house of cards will collapse eventually. I just hope it happens before it's too late for this country.

JimGP20
March 31st, 2009, 8:31 pm
That would make more sense if the Washington Post's employees (or better yet, their Editorial Board) were the ones making the polling calls.

I believe that a newspaper's editorial policy is completely removed from their news division, generally, although I imagine there's a little spillover sometimes.

Doug

A newspaper poll is intended for the newspaper's readership, and while I don't have hard numbers, I'd be willing to bet that the Post doesn't have a huge conservative following. If liberals are the majority of those taking the poll, the result is not going to be a surprise to most folks.

Middy
March 31st, 2009, 8:56 pm
I don't hate the right, I frankly hate extremists on either side. And I find it curious that person who supposedly doesn't like hateful threads has never complained about the hundreds of threads savaging Obama, and people who approve of him.

But hey, enjoy your Hannity Forum experience!

Doug

You make a lot of sense. You hate extremists on either side; yet you're a very avid supporter of the most radical, extremist president in American history.

chip
March 31st, 2009, 8:59 pm
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/polls/postpoll_033109.html?hpid=topnews

Obama overall job approval - 66/29

On the economy - 60/38
Federal budget deficit - 52/43
International Affairs - 62/27

Blame for the economic situation:
Banks - 80
Bush - 70
Business - 80
Consumers - 72
Obama - 26

"How confident are you that Obama's economic program will improve the economy?"
64/35

Here's the one that will kill the right:
"Do you have a favorable or unfavorable impression of Michelle Obama?"
76/16

And to close:
"Who do you trust to do a better job handling the economy - (Obama) or (the Republicans in Congress)?"
Obama 58/GOP 25

See that 25%? That's the righties here, I guess.

Doug

Seeing as how only 25% of those polled consider themselves Republicans *** did you expect?

Election Watcher
March 31st, 2009, 9:00 pm
You make a lot of sense. You hate extremists on either side; yet you're a very avid supporter of the most radical, extremist president in American history.

Is it possible, just possible, that at this time we NEED something radical and extreme to get out of this mess? It would seem that the way things have been done, isn't going to get us out of this mess?
JMHO.

ChaosControl
March 31st, 2009, 9:04 pm
Okay, I don't get
Federal budget deficit - 52/43

How can anyone, let alone 52%, approve of the federal budget deficit level?

ddye
March 31st, 2009, 9:05 pm
Seeing as how only 25% of those polled consider themselves Republicans *** did you expect?
Isn't that about the same percentage as those in the country that call themselves Republicans? I know I could be wrong, but the number's been dropping like a rock.

Doug

ChaosControl
March 31st, 2009, 9:08 pm
Isn't that about the same percentage as those in the country that call themselves Republicans? I know I could be wrong, but the number's been dropping like a rock.

Doug

It is pretty close. Something like 28 or 29%.

Heck, even us on the right don't consider ourselves such anymore.

Ballygrl
March 31st, 2009, 9:13 pm
When it comes to blaming the economic situation, were the 1,000 Americans who were chosen to participate in the poll, were they given the choice to blame Barney Frank? oh wait.................the mainstream media hasn't bothered to report that Barney and fellow Democrats caused the housing collapse with their support of FM/FM. :naughty:

Gaetano "Tommy" Lucchese
March 31st, 2009, 9:13 pm
Maybe they ought to run some of those polls in the subburbs...they might get a very different result..

Oh, for pete's sake, try to be a little more subtle.

scootr29
March 31st, 2009, 9:18 pm
Isn't that about the same percentage as those in the country that call themselves Republicans? I know I could be wrong, but the number's been dropping like a rock.

Doug

I mentioned this is another post...only 57% of the voting population showed up to vote on Nov. 3rd 2008. If Obama is so mighty why didn't the other 43% show up? Where were they? Who are they? Were they buying ammo and couldn't make it? Drunk underneath an overpass? Giving birth to twins? Working? Buying canned goods for the impending doom. Stuck in decreasing ice in the Artic Circle. Playing video games.

We have no way of ever knowing why those 43% did not show up.

When we have 95% to 100% turnout in a presidential election I think that is the time to sit up and take notice.

Obama is a harmless fly on the wall. Let him enjoy his 4 years riding high and mighty in Air Force One.

He will spend and tax his way to a 4 year term.

ChaosControl
March 31st, 2009, 9:23 pm
^ We will never have 90% turnout.

scootr29
March 31st, 2009, 9:29 pm
^ We will never have 90% turnout.


never say never...but it is amazing to me that Obama gets the praise that he does yet he had average election numbers.

Overall he is just a suit.

jrmarlin2000
March 31st, 2009, 9:29 pm
Isn't it funny when WE find polls that discredit the ones liberals like dougie there likes, he finds a way to blow them off? Yet, he loves to lord over polls on these threads.

Hypocrisy at its best. I love it.

BTW, his poll review by no means reflects what people are saying in coffee houses, bookstores and other venues where people discuss politics. The book, Fleeced, by Dick Morris -- flew off the shelves at my B&N and I had to grab it before it was sold out at another. Fleeced is a book about all the things we have been discussing on these threads...

Oh, and did I tell you... Dick Morris is a DEMOCRAT and worked for the Clintons for over 20 years -- Hmmmmmm.....and it's very damning for both the Clintons AND Democrats... Especially for Obama.

Wow... bet ya thought ya'd never see that.

ChaosControl
March 31st, 2009, 9:32 pm
never say never...but it is amazing to me that Obama gets the praise that he does yet he had average election numbers.

Overall he is just a suit.

You could be the best candidate ever or the worst, the turnout wont be much different.

ressurectedUltraSaiyanUSA
March 31st, 2009, 9:33 pm
And the ignorant masses will still praise Obama and his democrats.

well, this is the reason why I still predict more democrats will win in 2010 & obama has 2012 in the bag.

anyway, it's set in stone. it's prophecy. at this point, I leave everything to God Almighty & whatever he wills.

sometimes, we just have to let go...

Election Watcher
March 31st, 2009, 9:59 pm
Isn't it funny when WE find polls that discredit the ones liberals like dougie there likes, he finds a way to blow them off? Yet, he loves to lord over polls on these threads.

Hypocrisy at its best. I love it.

BTW, his poll review by no means reflects what people are saying in coffee houses, bookstores and other venues where people discuss politics. The book, Fleeced, by Dick Morris -- flew off the shelves at my B&N and I had to grab it before it was sold out at another. Fleeced is a book about all the things we have been discussing on these threads...

Oh, and did I tell you... Dick Morris is a DEMOCRAT and worked for the Clintons for over 20 years -- Hmmmmmm.....and it's very damning for both the Clintons AND Democrats... Especially for Obama.

Wow... bet ya thought ya'd never see that.

While what you say about polls holds a certain degree of validity, my time here has shown me that the converse is also true.
For example, Mr. Hannity (hope this isn't an TOS) throughout the election, would remark that polls mean nothing. Or things to that effect. Yet, time after time, he does reference them when they support his position. I think we all do that, don't we?
So when anyone drags a litany of polls into the discussion, I take it with a grain of salt, as should we all.

roger teekell
March 31st, 2009, 10:30 pm
Am I supposed to be suprised that The Obama Administration ( With the Help of the MSM ) have been DEMONIZING Banks...CEO's...and Bush for years...

And the American People are buying it??


Well then Color me Suprised...

Not really...


This post says a TON about what the American people truly understand about his "Policies"..


http://forums.hannity.com/showpost.php?p=51827111&postcount=3