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JohnCraven
March 25th, 2009, 3:48 am
:flag:The following article from WorldNetDaily.com reports on a Harvard doctor who supports Pope Benedict XVI's recent statements on the use of prophylactics (condoms) and their failure to prevent AIDS and their use to actually cause AIDS to increase.

The good doctor cites Uganda as a phenomenal success story in support of the pope's statement. He could have also cited the Phillipines where strong pro-life, abstinence and fidelity-based AIDS prevention programs have also been phenomenally successful in preventing an epidemic of AIDS in the Phillipines while other Asian countries, such as Thailand, where the condom is king and all AIDS prevention programs follow the Planned Parenthood model of sex education, have seen their people decimated by AIDS and other sexually transmitted diseases.

I hope you will take the time to read the following article and discover the pope was right and so were his predecessors.

JohnCraven
New Orleans:flag:

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Wednesday, March 25, 2009

FAITH UNDER FIRE
WorldNetDaily

See who says pope was right about condoms, AIDS
Harvard scientist: Those mocking pontiff's stand are wrong

Posted: March 23, 2009
9:58 pm Eastern

By Drew Zahn
WorldNetDaily

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Pope Benedict XVI visiting Cameroon

A senior Harvard research scientist confirmed that Pope Benedict XVI, who endured heavy criticism for declaring that condom distribution programs worsen the AIDS epidemic in Africa, was actually correct.

Dr. Edward C. Green, director of the AIDS Prevention Research Project (http://www.harvardaidsprp.org/) at the Harvard Center for Population and Development Studies, told National Review Online last week that despite AIDS activists and media outlets pounding the pope for downplaying the effectiveness of condoms, the science actually supports the Catholic leader's claim.

"The pope is correct," Green told NRO, "or put it a better way, the best evidence we have supports the pope's comments."

"There is," Green added, "a consistent association shown by our best studies, including the U.S.-funded 'Demographic Health Surveys,' between greater availability and use of condoms and higher (not lower) HIV-infection rates. This may be due in part to a phenomenon known as risk compensation, meaning that when one uses a risk-reduction 'technology' such as condoms, one often loses the benefit (reduction in risk) by 'compensating' or taking greater chances than one would take without the risk-reduction technology."

Aboard a plane traveling to Yaounde, Cameroon, last week, a French reporter told Benedict that the Catholic approach to combating AIDS – encouraging monogamy within marriage and abstinence before – was often considered unrealistic and ineffective.

According to transcripts released by the Vatican (http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/benedict_xvi/speeches/2009/march/documents/hf_ben-xvi_spe_20090317_africa-interview_en.html), Benedict responded, "This problem of AIDS cannot be overcome merely with money, necessary though it is. If there is no human dimension, if Africans do not help [by responsible behavior], the problem cannot be overcome by the distribution of prophylactics: on the contrary, they increase it."

Benedict immediately came under fire in the international press for proclaiming just what Green says the studies support: Encouraging fidelity in sexual relations decreases the spread of AIDS, and condom distribution programs increase it.

Rebecca Hodes, head of policy, communications and research for the Treatment Action Campaign in South Africa, blasted the pope for not advocating wide access to condoms as a means of combating AIDS.

"His opposition to condoms conveys that religious dogma is more important to him than the lives of Africans," Hodes told the Associated Press.

Learn how Americans have been sold the idea that what earlier generations condemned now is good, in the best-selling "The Marketing of Evil" (http://shop.wnd.com/store/item.asp?DEPARTMENT_ID=6&SUBDEPARTMENT_ID=94&ITEM_ID=1679)

"We call on the Pope to revisit the teachings on condoms with a view to lifting the ban at the earliest possible moment," said Jon O'Brien, president of Catholics for Choice. "In his review, we want him to include experts who are unequivocal that condoms do in fact help prevent the spread of HIV."

Syndicated columnist Roland Martin writes on CNN.com (http://edition.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/03/18/martin.condoms/index.html) that the pope's position demonstrated "ignorance of reality."

"For the church," Martin writes, "to continue to ignore the definitive research that condoms play a huge role in decreasing the spread of HIV/AIDS and other sexually transmitted diseases is mind-boggling."

Even the Vatican, according to a report in the London Times, backtracked slightly on the pope's remarks, adding a word to Benedict's remarks, stating he said distribution of condoms merely "risked" increasing the spread of AIDS.

According to Green, however, the pope's critics have bought into a common myth about condoms and AIDS.

"We have found no consistent associations between condom use and lower HIV-infection rates," said Green, "which, 25 years into the pandemic, we should be seeing if this intervention was working."

Instead, Green noted, the pope's encouragement of Africans toward monogamous sexual relationships has proven to be a much more effective strategy: "The best and latest empirical evidence indeed shows that reduction in multiple and concurrent sexual partners is the most important single behavior change associated with reduction in HIV-infection rates," Green said.

In Uganda, according to a report in Science magazine (http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/304/5671/714), teaching about AIDS and promoting monogamy has led to a dramatic turnaround in the country's AIDS epidemic.

"Human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) is preventable if populations are mobilized to avoid risk," states the report's summary.

"Despite limited resources, Uganda has shown a 70 percent decline in HIV prevalence since the early 1990s, linked to a 60 percent reduction in casual sex. The response in Uganda appears to be distinctively associated with communication about [AIDS] through social networks. Despite substantial condom use and promotion of biomedical approaches, other African countries have shown neither similar behavioral responses nor HIV prevalence declines of the same scale. The Ugandan success is equivalent to a vaccine of 80 percent effectiveness."

Green further told NRO, "More and more AIDS experts are coming to accept the above. The two countries with the worst HIV epidemics, Swaziland and Botswana, have both launched campaigns to discourage multiple and concurrent partners, and to encourage fidelity."

JohnCraven
March 29th, 2009, 2:22 am
Maybe someone should show this article to the president of Notre Dame for failing to find the backbone to disinvite Obama to speak at Notre Dame's commencement.

How pathetic Notre Dame University has become!!!

Obama is the most anti-life president in our history and Notre Dame's leadership would prefer to cling to a trivial tradition of inviting presidents to speak at their commencements then to the Holy Traditions of the Catholic Church which emanate from the Cross which our Good Lord gave us.

How genuinely pathetic!!!!

Notre Dame's stature has been dwindling for years and it's for reasons like this. They long ago abandoned their Catholic heritage in favor of the world's acclaim. Even if it means the deaths of millions of innocents here and around the world.

Notre Dame has an opportunity to tell Obama in no uncertain terms that Notre Dame completely supports the Catholic Church's teachings on life in Humanae vitae and Evangelium vitae and many other venerable doctrines and it has shrunk from it.

That is truly sad. It is not the mark of a great university.

JohnCraven
New Orleans:flag:

gadgetere
March 29th, 2009, 1:44 pm
Most universities were begun as "theological foundations" (Harvard, Yale, etcetera were CHRISTIAN schools). But now they're 180° off. I just watched the movie "Expelled --- No Intelligence Allowed" --- it was very good.

It's always angered me that so much money and resources are spent on an avoidable disease*, rather than on much less avoidable ones like cancer, heart disease, diabetes, etcetera. All those are in my family (though several cancers were from voluntary smoking).

* HIV is avoidable; even the innocents who die --- blood products recipients, spouses of unfaithful partners etcetera --- contract it because of one other person's stupid, selfish choice.

Stopthinkingsomuch!!!
March 29th, 2009, 3:17 pm
I read something of this nature in Nursing Journal. The heavy promotion of condom use is just not good enough. It is like trying to use a "pretend band-aid" on a massive injury. Sure it will look good, but pretty soon the blood will soak it and it will be lost cause.

I don't think that the message of showcasing HIV as a serious disease and then on the side treating it as if it is a common cold that "you can just live with". The cold doesn't manifest into a terminal illness in which you can die.

So what do you follow? It is serious or if you get it, that's okay your life will be superduper.

RickL
March 29th, 2009, 3:30 pm
Maybe someone should show this article to the president of Notre Dame for failing to find the backbone to disinvite Obama to speak at Notre Dame's commencement.

How pathetic Notre Dame University has become!!!

Obama is the most anti-life president in our history and Notre Dame's leadership would prefer to cling to a trivial tradition of inviting presidents to speak at their commencements then to the Holy Traditions of the Catholic Church which emanate from the Cross which our Good Lord gave us.

How genuinely pathetic!!!!

Notre Dame's stature has been dwindling for years and it's for reasons like this. They long ago abandoned their Catholic heritage in favor of the world's acclaim. Even if it means the deaths of millions of innocents here and around the world.

Notre Dame has an opportunity to tell Obama in no uncertain terms that Notre Dame completely supports the Catholic Church's teachings on life in Humanae vitae and Evangelium vitae and many other venerable doctrines and it has shrunk from it.

That is truly sad. It is not the mark of a great university.

JohnCraven
New Orleans:flag:

Being new, I don't know if this violates any rules. I hope it does not. If it does, I apologize.
Here is a link to an online petition which anyone (Catholic or not) who wishes to express their views to Notre Dame regarding this outright scandal of inviting the most anti-life president we have ever had.
http://www.notredamescandal.com/

Rick

Spaceman Spiff
March 29th, 2009, 8:15 pm
Doesn't that guy also write an article called "Smoking Cures Cancer"?

Cav Scout
March 30th, 2009, 1:26 am
:flag:The following article from WorldNetDaily.com reports on a Harvard doctor who supports Pope Benedict XVI's recent statements on the use of prophylactics (condoms) and their failure to prevent AIDS and their use to actually cause AIDS to increase.

The good doctor cites Uganda as a phenomenal success story in support of the pope's statement. He could have also cited the Phillipines where strong pro-life, abstinence and fidelity-based AIDS prevention programs have also been phenomenally successful in preventing an epidemic of AIDS in the Phillipines while other Asian countries, such as Thailand, where the condom is king and all AIDS prevention programs follow the Planned Parenthood model of sex education, have seen their people decimated by AIDS and other sexually transmitted diseases.

I hope you will take the time to read the following article and discover the pope was right and so were his predecessors.

JohnCraven
New Orleans:flag:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/images/WND.logo.116x19.gif
Wednesday, March 25, 2009

FAITH UNDER FIRE
WorldNetDaily

See who says pope was right about condoms, AIDS
Harvard scientist: Those mocking pontiff's stand are wrong

Posted: March 23, 2009
9:58 pm Eastern

By Drew Zahn
WorldNetDaily

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/images/090323PopeCameroon.jpg
Pope Benedict XVI visiting Cameroon

A senior Harvard research scientist confirmed that Pope Benedict XVI, who endured heavy criticism for declaring that condom distribution programs worsen the AIDS epidemic in Africa, was actually correct.

Dr. Edward C. Green, director of the AIDS Prevention Research Project (http://www.harvardaidsprp.org/) at the Harvard Center for Population and Development Studies, told National Review Online last week that despite AIDS activists and media outlets pounding the pope for downplaying the effectiveness of condoms, the science actually supports the Catholic leader's claim.

"The pope is correct," Green told NRO, "or put it a better way, the best evidence we have supports the pope's comments."

"There is," Green added, "a consistent association shown by our best studies, including the U.S.-funded 'Demographic Health Surveys,' between greater availability and use of condoms and higher (not lower) HIV-infection rates. This may be due in part to a phenomenon known as risk compensation, meaning that when one uses a risk-reduction 'technology' such as condoms, one often loses the benefit (reduction in risk) by 'compensating' or taking greater chances than one would take without the risk-reduction technology."

Aboard a plane traveling to Yaounde, Cameroon, last week, a French reporter told Benedict that the Catholic approach to combating AIDS – encouraging monogamy within marriage and abstinence before – was often considered unrealistic and ineffective.

According to transcripts released by the Vatican (http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/benedict_xvi/speeches/2009/march/documents/hf_ben-xvi_spe_20090317_africa-interview_en.html), Benedict responded, "This problem of AIDS cannot be overcome merely with money, necessary though it is. If there is no human dimension, if Africans do not help [by responsible behavior], the problem cannot be overcome by the distribution of prophylactics: on the contrary, they increase it."

Benedict immediately came under fire in the international press for proclaiming just what Green says the studies support: Encouraging fidelity in sexual relations decreases the spread of AIDS, and condom distribution programs increase it.

Rebecca Hodes, head of policy, communications and research for the Treatment Action Campaign in South Africa, blasted the pope for not advocating wide access to condoms as a means of combating AIDS.

"His opposition to condoms conveys that religious dogma is more important to him than the lives of Africans," Hodes told the Associated Press.

Learn how Americans have been sold the idea that what earlier generations condemned now is good, in the best-selling "The Marketing of Evil" (http://shop.wnd.com/store/item.asp?DEPARTMENT_ID=6&SUBDEPARTMENT_ID=94&ITEM_ID=1679)

"We call on the Pope to revisit the teachings on condoms with a view to lifting the ban at the earliest possible moment," said Jon O'Brien, president of Catholics for Choice. "In his review, we want him to include experts who are unequivocal that condoms do in fact help prevent the spread of HIV."

Syndicated columnist Roland Martin writes on CNN.com (http://edition.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/03/18/martin.condoms/index.html) that the pope's position demonstrated "ignorance of reality."

"For the church," Martin writes, "to continue to ignore the definitive research that condoms play a huge role in decreasing the spread of HIV/AIDS and other sexually transmitted diseases is mind-boggling."

Even the Vatican, according to a report in the London Times, backtracked slightly on the pope's remarks, adding a word to Benedict's remarks, stating he said distribution of condoms merely "risked" increasing the spread of AIDS.

According to Green, however, the pope's critics have bought into a common myth about condoms and AIDS.

"We have found no consistent associations between condom use and lower HIV-infection rates," said Green, "which, 25 years into the pandemic, we should be seeing if this intervention was working."

Instead, Green noted, the pope's encouragement of Africans toward monogamous sexual relationships has proven to be a much more effective strategy: "The best and latest empirical evidence indeed shows that reduction in multiple and concurrent sexual partners is the most important single behavior change associated with reduction in HIV-infection rates," Green said.

In Uganda, according to a report in Science magazine (http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/304/5671/714), teaching about AIDS and promoting monogamy has led to a dramatic turnaround in the country's AIDS epidemic.

"Human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) is preventable if populations are mobilized to avoid risk," states the report's summary.

"Despite limited resources, Uganda has shown a 70 percent decline in HIV prevalence since the early 1990s, linked to a 60 percent reduction in casual sex. The response in Uganda appears to be distinctively associated with communication about [AIDS] through social networks. Despite substantial condom use and promotion of biomedical approaches, other African countries have shown neither similar behavioral responses nor HIV prevalence declines of the same scale. The Ugandan success is equivalent to a vaccine of 80 percent effectiveness."

Green further told NRO, "More and more AIDS experts are coming to accept the above. The two countries with the worst HIV epidemics, Swaziland and Botswana, have both launched campaigns to discourage multiple and concurrent partners, and to encourage fidelity."

Hi John, we have met by the way in Fayetteville NC. The Pope was right and I am not Catholic. Putting a gallon of water on a forest fire... He was correct.

markdido
March 30th, 2009, 1:36 am
Doesn't that guy also write an article called "Smoking Cures Cancer"?

Let's see...

Obama went to Harvard Law and he's a genius...

This guy goes to Harvard Medical and he's an idiot.

That about sum it up?

JohnCraven
March 30th, 2009, 2:34 am
Doesn't that guy also write an article called "Smoking Cures Cancer"?

You must have read that off of a teleprompter like your hero, the genius law professor and stand-up comedian who became president, Barack Hussein Obama, "the most merciful".

It's an easy way of avoiding dealing with the sobering and serious truth that only those nations which have bought into the politically correct answer to HIV and AIDS prevention - condoms - which is sold around the world by the CDC, WHO, the UN and USAID are all dying en masse and that only those nations, such as Uganda, who have resurrected the time-tested virtues of fidelity in marriage and chastity before marriage in dealing with AIDS and HIV are rising out of the ashes and beginning to thrive again.

It is no joke that there are literally millions of children across Africa and Asia who have been orphaned because of AIDS and HIV.

And it is a well-known fact that they and their dying parents were often only helped at all by the Roman Catholic Church in some of the most destitute areas of the world. And yet even in the most destitute areas of Uganda where AIDS hit hardest, life is beginning to thrive again because the leaders of Uganda have resurrected these time-tested practices which the Church has taught from the very beginning.

It takes more courage for the Harvard doctor to affirm the truth of what the pope said about AIDS prevention than it does to stand up before a teleprompter and read the prepared answers that someone is feeding you.

JohnCraven
New Orleans:flag:

JohnCraven
March 30th, 2009, 2:45 am
Hi John, we have met by the way in Fayetteville NC. The Pope was right and I am not Catholic. Putting a gallon of water on a forest fire... He was correct.

I believe I have namesakes in North Carolina but I personally have never been to North Carolina. In some of the geneology research I've done, I've come across my last name a lot in North Carolina so I am not surprised if you have met someone else with the same name as me but I've never been to North Carolina.

Nevertheless, thanks for saying what you said about the pope being right about this subject.

Many of those orphaned by AIDS and dying from AIDS around the world are not Catholic either but are being largely helped by the Catholic Church and a number of other outstanding non-Catholic Christian organizations.

JohnCraven
New Orleans:flag:

JohnCraven
March 30th, 2009, 2:51 am
Being new, I don't know if this violates any rules. I hope it does not. If it does, I apologize.
Here is a link to an online petition which anyone (Catholic or not) who wishes to express their views to Notre Dame regarding this outright scandal of inviting the most anti-life president we have ever had.
http://www.notredamescandal.com/

Rick

This is great, Rick, thanks for letting us know about this.

I think after this scandal, the alumni should insist on the resignations of the screwballs running Notre Dame or the Vatican should revoke its Catholic credentials.

Why should anyone who is so anti-life as Obama being given a prime platform to espouse his vacuous beliefs at a Catholic university of all places. It is moral relativism at its worse and that's not what the Catholic Church is about and it shouldn't be what Notre Dame is about either but sadly, it apparently is.

JohnCraven
New Orleans:flag:

JohnCraven
March 30th, 2009, 2:56 am
I read something of this nature in Nursing Journal. The heavy promotion of condom use is just not good enough. It is like trying to use a "pretend band-aid" on a massive injury. Sure it will look good, but pretty soon the blood will soak it and it will be lost cause.

I don't think that the message of showcasing HIV as a serious disease and then on the side treating it as if it is a common cold that "you can just live with". The cold doesn't manifest into a terminal illness in which you can die.

So what do you follow? It is serious or if you get it, that's okay your life will be superduper.

You are correct about the mixed message that is being sent out bu media and those who benefit from the UN-USAID-CDC-WHO-approved method of AIDS prevention which, as the Harvard doctor pointed out, have failed miserably over the last 25 years in stopping the spread of AIDS and HIV.

JohnCraven
New Orleans:flag:

AutoRacer55
March 30th, 2009, 2:56 am
Doesn't that guy also write an article called "Smoking Cures Cancer"?

The Daily Show rules.

He must've also gotten an article printed called "McDonalds makes you skinny".

JohnCraven
March 30th, 2009, 3:07 am
Most universities were begun as "theological foundations" (Harvard, Yale, etcetera were CHRISTIAN schools). But now they're 180° off. I just watched the movie "Expelled --- No Intelligence Allowed" --- it was very good.

It's always angered me that so much money and resources are spent on an avoidable disease*, rather than on much less avoidable ones like cancer, heart disease, diabetes, etcetera. All those are in my family (though several cancers were from voluntary smoking).

* HIV is avoidable; even the innocents who die --- blood products recipients, spouses of unfaithful partners etcetera --- contract it because of one other person's stupid, selfish choice.

You are right about so much money being spent on avoidable diseases and so little spent on unavoidable ones when the simplest and best solutions to the avoidable ones are the least expensive and that's what the pope was talking about.

It is like with stem cell research. The best and most important breakthroughs have come about from using Adult stem cells and not Embryonic stem cells but Obama has backed Embyonic stem cell research with the full faith and credit of the US. His way will actually retard research breakthroughs into all many of illnesses.

JohnCraven
New Orleans:flag:

JohnCraven
March 30th, 2009, 3:19 am
The Daily Show rules.

He must've also gotten an article printed called "McDonalds makes you skinny".

Well, Speed Racer, it looks like you read off the same teleprompter that the Space Cadet reads from.

That's really lame.

JohnCraven
New Orleans:flag:

AutoRacer55
March 30th, 2009, 4:24 am
Well, Speed Racer, it looks like you read off the same teleprompter that the Space Cadet reads from.

That's really lame.

JohnCraven
New Orleans:flag:

I'm too busy failing thermodynamics to read off of a teleprompter.

Speed Racer? That all you got? I play WoW for pete's sake, come up with something better.

:mrgreen:

livia
March 30th, 2009, 5:00 am
Genuinely curious here - what is the Pope's policy for the spouse of someone who has AIDS? Celibacy within marriage? But that would break the rules relating to procreation?