Instead of Murder, why not divorce?

[alexz2317]

http://www.freep.com/article/20090324/NEWS04/90324031/Woman+gets+prison+for+killing+abusive+husband

I think this women got off with a light sentence. She murdered a human being. If she got sick of the abuse then there is always that popular option of divorce. Hope she get's shanked.

[jeepers]

http://www.freep.com/article/20090324/NEWS04/90324031/Woman+gets+prison+for+killing+abusive+husband

I think this women got off with a light sentence. She murdered a human being. If she got sick of the abuse then there is always that popular option of divorce. Hope she get's shanked.


I read the article and I don't. Rape and physical abuse and the judge agrees that it was manslaughter, not first degree murder?

I would like to say that I would do the right thing if I were a victim of this, but the truth is, only the Lord knows what someone would do if they snap under these conditions, especially in t he heat of the moment.

If you show me that this was premeditated, that is one thing. All this article shows is that the defense says that it ws during a struggle. Show me otherwise and I might agree that divorce was an option.

I try to put myself in the place of the people in question...I don't care who you are, if you're trying to hurt me with a knife, I'm not going to die quietly for you.

[bella-day]

I read the article and I don't. Rape and physical abuse and the judge agrees that it was manslaughter, not first degree murder?

I would like to say that I would do the right thing if I were a victim of this, but the truth is, only the Lord knows what someone would do if they snap under these conditions, especially in t he heat of the moment.

If you show me that this was premeditated, that is one thing. All this article shows is that the defense says that it ws during a struggle. Show me otherwise and I might agree that divorce was an option.

I try to put myself in the place of the people in question...I don't care who you are, if you're trying to hurt me with a knife, I'm not going to die quietly for you.

You nailed it!

Straight from the article:


Pathologists testified that Nale died of two stab wounds to the heart. Nale's lawyers said the death was an accident in the midst of a struggle.

I do not buy the accident label.

Anyone, regardless of gender has a right to defend themselves.

[birddog1]

Sounds like they both got what they deserved to me.

[Dr. Funkenstein]

http://www.freep.com/article/20090324/NEWS04/90324031/Woman+gets+prison+for+killing+abusive+husband

I think this women got off with a light sentence. She murdered a human being. If she got sick of the abuse then there is always that popular option of divorce. Hope she get's shanked.

Divorce seems like the best option. I know it does.

However, knowing what I know about abused spouses...it's never quite that simple.

Sure...she could file for divorce and get a restraining order on top of it...but it's just two pieces of paper. In some cases...people have walked right through both and killed their ex-spouse. No less than four women that were living in the two secure domestic violence shelters that my wife worked at were killed by their ex...three while at work, one after theyd moved far out of the state.

I guess the point is that the abusers don't always get the message that it's over when the divorce papers get filed.

[Dreamy]

The Nales were married for 34 years -- most of them happy, Pamukov said. Michael Nale became abusive in the eight months before he died, she said.

If true,very odd and unusual.

[Dr. Funkenstein]

If true,very odd and unusual.

I wonder if they'd recently lost a lot of money, or if he'd been laid off or something like that.

Not excusing the behavior, mind you...but it does assist in the explanation.

Also...if she's 48 now, and they were married for 34 years as of 2007...that would make her 12 when they got married. ???

[Dreamy]

I wonder if they'd recently lost a lot of money, or if he'd been laid off or something like that.

Not excusing the behavior, mind you...but it does assist in the explanation.


Exactly. If that statement I quoted is true something more is at play here than a woman abused for years and years and suddenly snapping.

[jeepers]

I wonder if they'd recently lost a lot of money, or if he'd been laid off or something like that.

Not excusing the behavior, mind you...but it does assist in the explanation.


Or perhaps something like the onset of dementia. Some sort of organic brain disease? Hormonal problem?

Something made him change, that's for sure. You don't go from 'happily married' to 'physical abuse and rape' without something dramatic happening...

[alexz2317]

Sounds like they both got what they deserved to me.
Yeah, the wife get's a few bruises and the husband is 6 feet under. Seems fair to me. :wall:

[Buffalo]

Yeah, the wife get's a few bruises and the husband is 6 feet under. Seems fair to me. :wall:
Being physically abused and raped by your "loving" husband and going to jail for at least 38 months is not a few bruises.

[alexz2317]

Being physically abused and raped by your "loving" husband and going to jail for at least 38 months is not a few bruises.
She deserves life in prison

[Buffalo]

She deserves life in prison
I wasn't involved in the trial nor do I know the full circumstances of the crime. The Jury and Judge made the decision, and I have no reason to believe they made the wrong one.

[Dr. Funkenstein]

Yeah, the wife get's a few bruises and the husband is 6 feet under. Seems fair to me. :wall:

Until you've been raped, I don't think it's quite fair to say "the wife gets a few bruises".

[Dr. Funkenstein]

She deserves life in prison

Tell you what...you go ahead and live the last eight months of her life and let me know what you think when you get back.

I'll wait here.

[Dreamy]

She deserves life in prison

Based on what case evidence that you have been privy to Alexz?

[neoINDIE]

There is not enough info in the article to make an educated statement about this case.

While it is said they were happily married for 34 years, it is possible he was controlling or verbally/physically abusive for years, behind closed doors.

In public and around friends/family, people can be very different than behind closed doors.

Like I said, not enough info to say one way or the other.

[birddog1]

Yeah, the wife get's a few bruises and the husband is 6 feet under. Seems fair to me. :wall:

Actions have consequences, whether appropriate or not he brought it upon himself by being an abusive *******. I also don't see her sentence as excessively light either.

[basilisk]

For some, divorce and murder have the same consequence (going to hell) so there's really no difference in their minds. That being the case, why not make the SOB suffer? It's a bizarre mindset, but some people think that way.

[Samm]

This situation is nothing new... we even have a term for it up here.

Spenard Divorce: A loud and sometimes fatal way of ending a relationship made famous in the Spenard area of Anchorage. Involves a gun.

http://www.decorphoto.com/ak-slang.htm