Not a monster? Killer of four Oakland officers "Not a monster"...

[LouC]

LINK (http://www.bnd.com/breaking_news/story/699138.html)

LaTasha Mixon, 28, of Sacramento said Sunday her cousin was "not a monster." She said her family's prayers were with the slain officers' relatives. "We're devastated. Everybody took a major loss. We're crushed," she said.

You are right your cousin wasn't a monster.

He was a career criminal scum sucking low life filthy murdering monster, one that the world is infinitely better off without.

I predicted some family member would do this, I knew it would happen.

"Everybody took a major loss."... No you idiot, only the good side.

[Dual867PowerMac]

All that may be true, but you have to feel for his family. They didn't ask to be put in this position.

[BillyBobUSA]

All that may be true, but you have to feel for his family. They didn't ask to be put in this position.


I am too busy feeling empathy for the police officers and their families.

I dont have a tear to drop for these people and I doubt that they were clueless as to the perps true character.

Likely they wouldnt know a monster if it bit them in the keister.

[Samm]

All that may be true, but you have to feel for his family. They didn't ask to be put in this position.

We don't know that.

[LouC]

All that may be true, but you have to feel for his family. They didn't ask to be put in this position.

No I don't have to feel for his family.

They have been in this position of inevitability for years.

They either knew his actions were foreordained or they are among the most incredibly stupid people on the face of this earth.

They likely knew he was violating parole and aided and abetted his actions by not turning him in before he killed.

No I do not have to feel for his family.

[Dual867PowerMac]

We don't know that.
It seems unlikely judging by the cousin's comments.

[FidelisAdMortem]

Yes Dual he hid his lifetime of crime from everyone. Nobody knew. His lifetime of parole, crimes comes as a shock.

I have a bridge to sell you Dual, you interested?

[BillyBobUSA]

Yes Dual he hid his lifetime of crime from everyone. Nobody knew. His lifetime of parole, crimes comes as a shock.

I have a bridge to sell you Dual, you interested?

You kidding?

The libruls are only interested in the criminals side of the story and in ten years this perp will be the 'victim' in the eyes of many.

The best part of this is that the perp didnt live long enough to tell his story.

[FidelisAdMortem]

Well in a place like Oakland if he would have lived, a jury of his "peers", most likely would have acquitted him.

[Dual867PowerMac]

It seems you're wanting to punish the whole family for the actions of one member of it.

[jimjames418]

It seems you're wanting to punish the whole family for the actions of one member of it.
Well as Ms. Clinton's book said, "It takes a village". being a member of the village his actions reflect on the whole village. Tough to be them but I have no feelings for the family whatsoever.

[BillyBobUSA]

It seems you're wanting to punish the whole family for the actions of one member of it.


I dont want to punish the family of the perp; I just dont care about them whatsoever.

[uncledoom]

"He was trying to get his self together...."
"He always tried to do right by his family..."
"He was a good kid..."

This is all code for "I don't know what he does once he leaves the house. He's never pointed a gun at me unless I deserved it...."

Ignorance is bliss...

**** him. Its guys like that who make certain aspects of this world a very ****ed up place. All these ****ers do is take and take and take. **** them and anyone who this these *******s deserve a break.

[LouC]

It seems you're wanting to punish the whole family for the actions of one member of it.

Mixon punished his family, no one else is, and now that scum punished the four families of the slain officers.

[Scarlet37]

Whenever something heinous like this happens there always seems to be a relative who is ready and willing to go on record stating "he's a good kid', or in this case "he's not a monster". Really? If anyone can even think of making a statement like that after a tragedy like this, then they have absolutely no sense of decency or morality. A decent person (if this were a member of their family) would - if they gave any statement - offer condolences, and only condolences to the officers families. If this guy isn't a "monster", I don't know who is. If this creature's cousin can't see that, then she's lacking something on the inside as well.

[Dual867PowerMac]

Mixon punished his family, no one else is, and now that scum punished the four families of the slain officers.
I'm not arguing that point.

[BillyBobUSA]

"He was trying to get his self together...."
"He always tried to do right by his family..."
"He was a good kid..."

This is all code for "I don't know what he does once he leaves the house. He's never pointed a gun at me unless I deserved it...."

Ignorance is bliss...

**** him. Its guys like that who make certain aspects of this world a very ****ed up place. All these ****ers do is take and take and take. **** them and anyone who this these *******s deserve a break.


+1

I think you have captured the exact nature of the families view of this criminal; ignorance compounded by fear and wishful thinking.

[Antrel]

I'd expect a loved one to make an effort to salvage his name after such an incident, no matter how they may be perceived for doing so. Everybody loses in lethal conflict. People kill, and people die. Loved ones deal with the emotional consequences on both ends.

The only real winners are the people who get to make a debate out of it on a message board.

[rightside]

I don't feel sorry for the family, if they feel bad that the officers were wrongly killed , then they should have told law enforcement not to let their Cousin out of prison.

[jimjames418]

I'd expect a loved one to make an effort to salvage his name after such an incident, no matter how they may be perceived for doing so. Everybody loses in lethal conflict. People kill, and people die. Loved ones deal with the emotional consequences on both ends.

The only real winners are the people who get to make a debate out of it on a message board.
There are no "real winners" in a case such as this.

I'd expect the loved ones to express remorse for the slain officers and not attempt to make excuses for the offender.

The most I want to see from the perps family is "That is not the person I knew".

[Antrel]

There are no "real winners" in a case such as this.

I'd expect the loved ones to express remorse for the slain officers and not attempt to make excuses for the offender.

The most I want to see from the perps family is "That is not the person I knew".The same woman stated that she was praying for the officers and their families.

[rhet 2]

Well as Ms. Clinton's book said, "It takes a village". being a member of the village his actions reflect on the whole village. Tough to be them but I have no feelings for the family whatsoever.

I do.

The kid wasn't BORN corrupt.

He was MADE corrupt, turned into a killer addicted to violence, full of fear and rage and wild emotions that drove him over the line between civilization and savagery.

By a Village that didn't give a **** about life and death, didn't give a **** about the kid, didn't give a **** about the cops, and sure as hell didn't give a **** about the FIVE families ripped apart by their little wild animal.

And, if I were the family, I'd be so ****ed off at the Village that took a happy baby boy and TURNED HIM INTO A KILLER, a monstrous animal UNABLE AND UNWILLING to stop himself, to think about and stop his own rage for violence and for destruction.

The kid was SET UP FOR DEATH by a Village that just didn't give enough of a damn to stop the predatory beasts who TAUGHT him to be just like themselves, savages living without thought for others, savages who just don't give a damn about their own lives, much less the lives of their "buddies" and their "families" and their "neighbors." Concepts they've never learned themselves.

[Samm]

It seems unlikely judging by the cousin's comments.

Ha! Ninety nine percent of people in prison are innocent... if you ask them.

[NVG]

In my view the only thing the family should express is their condolences to the families of the slain Officer's. Nothing else should be said. Especially an absurd remark that the perp was "not a monster".

[jeepers]

If this were my family member, I would apologize profusely on behalf of the family, and offer up prayers and condolences to the families of the slain officers, the Oakland Police Department and the entire community.

I wouldn't say anything about my family member, because HIS ACTIONS SPOKE FOR THEMSELF.

And then drink heavily.

[jeepers]

LaTasha Mixon, 28, of Sacramento said Sunday her cousin was "not a monster."

No, he was a man.

First he preyed upon people with the crimes listed on his apparently extensive rap sheet (alluded to in the press conference yesterday), and then he turned into a murderer.

No, monster, just a bad man.

[Samm]

It seems you're wanting to punish the whole family for the actions of one member of it.

They are getting the punishment they deserve for having enabled a career criminal. Sure they are grieving... but that does not mean they are innocents.

[rhet 2]

In my view the only thing the family should express is their condolences to the families of the slain Officer's. Nothing else should be said. Especially an absurd remark that the perp was "not a monster".

That kid once was a little boy laughing over ice cream, chasing a ball, giggling and laughing and enjoying life.

What turned a happy baby into a KILLING BEAST?

"Friends" -- people he hung out with who TAUGHT him selfish greed, violence as a way of survival, scorn for others, scorn for his own life and the life of everybody around him -- TAUGHT him to be an animal, live like an animal, betrayed every ounce of humanity that kid was BORN TO BE, took beauty and innocence and potential and PERVERTED his heart and mind into something that could never survive, never thrive, never be what he was born to become.

"Teachers" -- people who taught him to be a LOSER, convinced him he was worthless, without potential, not able to be what he was born to become.

"Adults" -- people who modeled violence and hate, scorn for the rights of others, greed and selfishness and slavery to his own emotions, instead of modeling self-control and caution and forethought and consideration for others and industrious application of time and energy to worthwhile CONSTRUCTIVE activities.

"Entertainers" -- people who sold him a bill of lies full of violence and hatred and destructiveness, who taught him to WASTE HIS LIFE in worthless dead-end destructive anti-social self-hatred and hatred for everyone else to go with hatred for himself.

The VILLAGE which took a kid BORN TO NOBILITY and turned him into a savage beast with dead heart and wasted mind, walking around waiting for the perfect opportunity to make exactly the wrong choices so his body could WASTE other lives and WASTE his own life at the same time.

People should have PULLED HIM OUT OF THAT ENVIRONMENT, away from the destroyers, away from the teachers of defeat and destructionism, when he was five and six and seven and eight.

But the Village didn't give a damn whether he lived or died. He was nothing but a political campaign ad to be USED by the Village to make the Village rich and powerful, a nothing to be wasted as a "message written in human blood" to con other fools into supporting the VILLAGE OF THE DAMNED, where only the people in power stand a chance of surviving and all the little beasts they USE and THROW AWAY run wild, unrestrained, TAUGHT TO HATE, and ALLOWED TO KILL AND BE KILLED.

And nobody gives enough of a damn to take kids like this OUT OF THE VILLAGE OF THE DAMNED and invest the PERSONAL time and energy to foster their potential HUMAN GLORY.

[rhet 2]

They are getting the punishment they deserve for having enabled a career criminal. Sure they are grieving... but that does not mean they are innocents.

The family is as enslaved to the Village of the Damned as the kid was.

Just as subject to the constant battering with LIES AND DECEPTIONS as their son was.

Just as out of control and helpless as their boy was.

[consusa]

I do.

The kid wasn't BORN corrupt.

He was MADE corrupt, turned into a killer addicted to violence, full of fear and rage and wild emotions that drove him over the line between civilization and savagery.

By a Village that didn't give a **** about life and death, didn't give a **** about the kid, didn't give a **** about the cops, and sure as hell didn't give a **** about the FIVE families ripped apart by their little wild animal.

And, if I were the family, I'd be so ****ed off at the Village that took a happy baby boy and TURNED HIM INTO A KILLER, a monstrous animal UNABLE AND UNWILLING to stop himself, to think about and stop his own rage for violence and for destruction.

The kid was SET UP FOR DEATH by a Village that just didn't give enough of a damn to stop the predatory beasts who TAUGHT him to be just like themselves, savages living without thought for others, savages who just don't give a damn about their own lives, much less the lives of their "buddies" and their "families" and their "neighbors." Concepts they've never learned themselves.

Interesting how the fact that a person has a brain and is, in fact, exposed to right and wrong in his/her life, has no bearing. They aren't required to make a moral judgement on themselves. The rest of us are supposed to assume his moral shortcomings. People are born into crappy situations all the time. Most don't turn into killers, whatever their concept of law and order. This guy is responsible for what he's done. Period.

[FidelisAdMortem]

This perps family knew about his past, and knew he was on parole, they even knew he missed his parole meetings and would be issued a warrant for an arrest, they did nothing........they are responsible.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/P/POLICE_SHOT_CA?SITE=1010WINS&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

[rhet 2]

Interesting how the fact that a person has a brain and is, in fact, exposed to right and wrong in his/her life, has no bearing. They aren't required to make a moral judgement on themselves. The rest of us are supposed to assume his moral shortcomings. People are born into crappy situations all the time. Most don't turn into killers, whatever their concept of law and order. This guy is responsible for what he's done. Period.

I'm NOT excusing him.

I'm NOT excusing his family.

Both made their choices.

Both chose irresponsibility and cruel indifference, CHOSE to duck and run out on their responsibility to OTHERS.

BOTH voluntarily submitted to the Power of the VILLAGE of the Damned, handed off responsibility for themselves and their own choices to others -- DUMPED the humanity in the toilet and flushed it out of carelessness, out of refusal to CONFRONT AND STOP the Village of the Damned from destroying themselves and four innocent families.

Instead of fighting back to stop the Village from destroying themselves, they laid down and waited for the Village to cut their own throats -- and blame others for what they themselves allowed.

Those Bystanders are GUILTY AS HELL of destroying five families out of cowardice and out of REFUSAL TO ACCEPT SELF-DETERMINATION and DEAL WITH THEIR OWN WORLD with THEIR OWN TALENT AND ENERGY in constructive ways.

[Remus Lupin]

Very well said, Rhet! :clap:

[sgtmac_46]

I'd expect a loved one to make an effort to salvage his name after such an incident, no matter how they may be perceived for doing so. Everybody loses in lethal conflict. People kill, and people die. Loved ones deal with the emotional consequences on both ends.

The only real winners are the people who get to make a debate out of it on a message board.
Me too......they aren't attacking the police, just defending the memory of someone they cared about. Completely understandable. I see no need to pile on these folks.

The SOB that created this situation has paid all debts.

[Antrel]

Me too......they're aren't attacking the police, just defending the memory of someone they cared about. Completely understandable. I see no need to pile on these folks.

The SOB that created this situation has paid all debts.You're a smart man, Mac (I've always wanted somebody I could simply refer to thusly).

[sgtmac_46]

You're a smart man, Mac (I've always wanted somebody I could simply refer to thusly). :)) Well thanks.

[BillyBobUSA]

I'm NOT excusing him.

I'm NOT excusing his family.

Both made their choices.

Both chose irresponsibility and cruel indifference, CHOSE to duck and run out on their responsibility to OTHERS.

BOTH voluntarily submitted to the Power of the VILLAGE of the Damned, handed off responsibility for themselves and their own choices to others -- DUMPED the humanity in the toilet and flushed it out of carelessness, out of refusal to CONFRONT AND STOP the Village of the Damned from destroying themselves and four innocent families.

Instead of fighting back to stop the Village from destroying themselves, they laid down and waited for the Village to cut their own throats -- and blame others for what they themselves allowed.

Those Bystanders are GUILTY AS HELL of destroying five families out of cowardice and out of REFUSAL TO ACCEPT SELF-DETERMINATION and DEAL WITH THEIR OWN WORLD with THEIR OWN TALENT AND ENERGY in constructive ways.


All I can say is - Antoher excellent post by Rhet.

Are you planning to run for office?

You'd get my vote.

[rhet 2]

All I can say is - Antoher excellent post by Rhet.

Are you planning to run for office?

You'd get my vote.

And sell my soul to the Good Old Boys Club and special freaking interest civilization destroyers in order to get the money to BUY my way into power?

When hell freezes over.

[angelicmadrigal]

No I do not have to feel for his family.

Then don't, it doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things anyway whether you care or not.

Honestly, what are you or anyone else going to DO about it? Sit around and complain? Oh gee that's a big help. The day you get out there and start personally lobbying for tougher parole laws, harsher sentances for criminals, etc...is the day I will care about your (or society in general's outrage (which I question as being genuine at times), because than it will MEAN something. Actions speak louder than words.

I for one think society is finally reaping what it's been sowing.

[Patranus]

KTVU - a local news station - ran a story about the cop 4 cops who were killed followed by a story about a thug who was killed by cops a few months ago. It was an interview with his brother talking about what an upstanding citizen his brother was and how unjust it was that the police shot his brother.

You could literally take the thug who murdered the 4 cops and interchange his life with the thug who got shot by the police.

When will the liberals wake up and realize that we can't let the animals run freely.

[uncledoom]

This perps family knew about his past, and knew he was on parole, they even knew he missed his parole meetings and would be issued a warrant for an arrest, they did nothing........they are responsible.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/P/POLICE_SHOT_CA?SITE=1010WINS&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

From this article:

"I think his frustration was building up, but he was trying to better himself," Curtis Mixon said.

I'm sorry but where does bettering yourself include driving around with a gun.

Add this to the list on post 13.

[LouC]

...The day you get out there and start personally lobbying for tougher parole laws, harsher sentances for criminals, etc...is the day I will care about your (or society in general's outrage (which I question as being genuine at times), because than it will MEAN something...

No you wouldn't.

[mysticbeauty_nbeast]

This perps family knew about his past, and knew he was on parole, they even knew he missed his parole meetings and would be issued a warrant for an arrest, they did nothing........they are responsible.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/P/POLICE_SHOT_CA?SITE=1010WINS&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

Reading the full story in your link...the hair on the back of my neck just raised up. The pain the family of the perp as well as the officers must be going through some horrific times...however...to state what a 'charmer' this perp was....how it wasn't his fault he killed four officer due to not being able to find a job...so he couldn't make it to his parole meetings....is just...well...it's just ********! :snooty:

'Nice guy's' or 'warm charming' people, don't commit armed robbery in the first damn place. They certainly don't shoot other people...and they most certainly don't ignore their responsibilities!

This guy didn't want to go back to jail...period. He thought he could shoot his way to freedom....he was wrong. He is not the only person to pay his debts that day..he took four other people with him; which in my mind makes him a continued debtor in this life.

His family? Had they truly loved and thought well of him..would have helped him to prioritize his life. Giving him lifts to his parole hearings or meetings. Or give him bus fare to to make those meetings. He obviously had access to a car...as per the link. More to the point..this man thought himself above the law...he didn't want to go to those parole meetings..and said 'chuck it' to the laws that govern everyone. The selfishness of this one man is astounding...and now his wife and children are without a father due to his laziness and selfishness...as well as four other families are now without their father and husbands due to his actions. :confused:

~Mysty

[2underPar]

I do.

The kid wasn't BORN corrupt.

He was MADE corrupt, turned into a killer addicted to violence, full of fear and rage and wild emotions that drove him over the line between civilization and savagery.

By a Village that didn't give a **** about life and death, didn't give a **** about the kid, didn't give a **** about the cops, and sure as hell didn't give a **** about the FIVE families ripped apart by their little wild animal.

And, if I were the family, I'd be so ****ed off at the Village that took a happy baby boy and TURNED HIM INTO A KILLER, a monstrous animal UNABLE AND UNWILLING to stop himself, to think about and stop his own rage for violence and for destruction.

The kid was SET UP FOR DEATH by a Village that just didn't give enough of a damn to stop the predatory beasts who TAUGHT him to be just like themselves, savages living without thought for others, savages who just don't give a damn about their own lives, much less the lives of their "buddies" and their "families" and their "neighbors." Concepts they've never learned themselves.

I agree 100%... it's also interesting one of the comments the family made...

"He was always trying to do right by his family".... meaning they knew he wasnt trying to do right by others?

[rhet 2]

I agree 100%... it's also interesting one of the comments the family made...

"He was always trying to do right by his family".... meaning they knew he wasnt trying to do right by others?

But they were NOT trying to "do right" by him -- otherwise, they'd have helped lock him up where he couldn't destroy himself and others.

They'd have physically sat on the kid, if that was the only way to stop him.

You do NOT ignore problems and hope they'll not get worse -- because they DO get worse.

His own family should have been begging the courts to revoke parole and slam that kid into an institution for the criminally insane -- and the kid would still be alive, out of harm's way, where MAYBE we could have gotten him the deep psychological RESOCIALIZATION he so desperately needed.

False pity destroys kids like this -- they play on it to get the freedom they crave -- and then use that freedom to destroy not just themselves but everybody trapped in their immediate vicinity.

[angelicmadrigal]

No you wouldn't.

Well I guess you'll never know.

[Pudge]

All that may be true, but you have to feel for his family. They didn't ask to be put in this position.

But didn't they?

It's not like this guy didn't have a pattern of violence and hostility in his life. Where does that come from? What in his past led him to the day where he gunned down four officers?

I am not buying the excuses from his family. No doubt they are sad for their loss, and they may even feel sorry for the officers, but because of how that family raised their young, they are, at least in part, responsible for what he turned out to be. Nobody ever told this guy "no". It's the same story written behind every thug who has no regard for the rights, property, or lives of others. I won't give his family a pass because they're grieving, they should have done their job years ago and maybe their relative wouldn't have grown up to be a violent felon and murderer of police officers.

[Pudge]

It seems you're wanting to punish the whole family for the actions of one member of it.

Nobody has stated that they should be charged with a crime, but why should we weep for their loss when their relative was the CAUSE of that loss.

If one of the slain officers were a relative of mine, and LaTasha came to cry on my shoulder, I'd turn her right out of the building and hold her to her rightful shame, her and her entire failure of a family.

[JudasGoat]

I'd expect a loved one to make an effort to salvage his name after such an incident, no matter how they may be perceived for doing so. Everybody loses in lethal conflict. People kill, and people die. Loved ones deal with the emotional consequences on both ends.

The only real winners are the people who get to make a debate out of it on a message board.

Well, jmo, you've lowered the bar of expectation. If my family lived like him I would not be on tv saying they were good and decent.

oh and message board debaters aren't the only winners. There's still Corrine Brown and the gradulated Florida Gator. Go Gator!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5tXMLI-OsI

[Pudge]

This is all code for "I don't know what he does once he leaves the house. He's never pointed a gun at me unless I deserved it...."

Ignorance is bliss.

It's the same denial and rationalization that is letting Chris Brown off the hook for beating up Rihanna. The same denial that many blacks engaged in when they were asked about OJ's killing of Ron & Nicole. The police are the enemy, personal responsibility doesn't apply to them anymore, and they allow their urban communites to be ruled by thugs and criminals. A continuous, vicious circle that most will not just won't step out of because they believe it's just a part of their race and culture, and to step out of that vicious circle is to betray that race and culture.

[Ardathair]

"He was always trying to do right by his family"

BS He dragged them into this with no reguard for them, just the knowledge that no matter what he did they would do everything they could to keep him free to do what ever he wanted to do.

Too bad his family didn't want to do right by him, keeping him away from the "Bad Crowd" which people like this find, and nobody is a part of.

Were the police officers he killed just trying to do right for their families or for all families living in the city?

[Vic Daring]

Damn those idiots for loving a family member. Even a bad one.

They deserve their pain.

[Ardathair]

Damn those idiots for loving a family member. Even a bad one.

They deserve their pain.

And just too bad for any non-family member they kill along the way. Right?

The loving should have started long before the killing.

[JimGP20]

I'm NOT excusing him.

I'm NOT excusing his family.

Both made their choices.

Both chose irresponsibility and cruel indifference, CHOSE to duck and run out on their responsibility to OTHERS.

BOTH voluntarily submitted to the Power of the VILLAGE of the Damned, handed off responsibility for themselves and their own choices to others -- DUMPED the humanity in the toilet and flushed it out of carelessness, out of refusal to CONFRONT AND STOP the Village of the Damned from destroying themselves and four innocent families.

Instead of fighting back to stop the Village from destroying themselves, they laid down and waited for the Village to cut their own throats -- and blame others for what they themselves allowed.

Those Bystanders are GUILTY AS HELL of destroying five families out of cowardice and out of REFUSAL TO ACCEPT SELF-DETERMINATION and DEAL WITH THEIR OWN WORLD with THEIR OWN TALENT AND ENERGY in constructive ways.

There are members of that village right here on these forums. Members that defend the culture he was brought up in. Members that call the gangster music he listened to, "art". Members who are all too willing to make excuses for why a person would turn out this way. When one is taught hate as a way of life, then it should never be a surprise that hate is in that person's heart. If there is a sense of hopelessness in the village that brought this person up, it's because the leaders of that village want to keep it there... they have their reasons.

[Vic Daring]

And just too bad for any non-family member they kill along the way. Right?

The loving should have started long before the killing.

Where on earth did you read that little bit of hysterical self-righteous nonsense?

Certainly not in what I posted.

[rhet 2]

Damn those idiots for loving a family member. Even a bad one.

They deserve their pain.

There's SELFLESS love that does whatever it takes to stop the corruption and disintegration of a loved one.

And then there's the SELFISH kind that refuses to do the Tough Stuff to ensure the health -- including the SOCIAL health and the MENTAL health of those we love.

What would you do if it were your son hanging with thugs, playing tough guy with a gun, roaming the streets looking for death because he's lost all hope and can't even see the light of day?

THAT is what the Village of the Damned did to this kid: they REFUSED to help him and let darkness and rage and insane devotion to violence swallow him alive and make him and 4 honorable, honest citizens dead at one and the same time.

BECAUSE PEOPLE REFUSED TO STOP HIM years and years and years ago.

[Ardathair]

Where on earth did you read that little bit of hysterical self-righteous nonsense?

Certainly not in what I posted.

Certainly not from, Damn those idiots for loving a family member.

How many people would a family member of yours have to murder before you stopped protecting him or her?

This person victamized many people before killing the police officers; and knowing some of what he had done, his family's love only extended to feelings, not to trying to help him or preventing bloodshed?

Their compassion would have been better demonstrated by keeping him from these violent acts, not waiting for a disaster like this.

Would anyone have been calling for his head if he had gotten a job and earned a living? Only the kooks, which would have been ignored by sane individuals.

[rhet 2]

Something went terribly terribly terribly WRONG in Oakland CA.

Now, what was it?

IDENTIFY what happened to turn a baby into a killer so we can stop this from ever happening to another child.

[BillyBobUSA]

Something went terribly terribly terribly WRONG in Oakland CA.

Now, what was it?

IDENTIFY what happened to turn a baby into a killer so we can stop this from ever happening to another child.


Maybe the 'baby', as it greew into adulthood, simply chose to be an adult for whom murder is an option?

No one forced the perp to carry a gun in violation of his parole, did they?

People make choices; nothing necesarily 'turns' anyone into a murderer.

[uncledoom]

Damn those idiots for loving a family member. Even a bad one.

They deserve their pain.


I have no problem with family members expressing grief and commenting about loved ones...but all too often it seems like some have absolutely no clue what nonsense these people are up to once they leave the house....seems comical and sad.

[rhet 2]

Maybe the 'baby', as it greew into adulthood, simply chose to be an adult for whom murder is an option?

No one forced the perp to carry a gun in violation of his parole, did they?

People make choices; nothing necesarily 'turns' anyone into a murderer.

He was TAUGHT to believe in lies.

Lie #1: "I won't get caught."

Lie #2: "Violence is sometimes the only way to get way you want, especially if I can get me some honking big ass guns."

Lie #3: "I don't have what I need because OTHER people don't like my skin color."

Lie #4: "Cops hate me because of my skin color and they want me dead, just because, so why shouldn't I make them dead first."

Lie #5: "I have a RIGHT to do what I want."

Lie #6: "The only way people will like me is if I'm just like they are, so I've got to hang with dropouts and violent bums."

Lie #7: "There's no place in Whitey's world for me because of my skin color."

Lie #8: "I can't do this school ****, so I might as well just quit and go hang with my buddies and have some fun."

Lie #9: "Even if I could do the school ****, Whitey won't ever let me get a real job, so there's no point in even trying."

And the biggest lie of all: "You can't stop me."

That kid heard one lie after another from birth -- and nobody bothered to stop him from swallowing the lies when he was 8 and 9 and 10.

[BillyBobUSA]

He was TAUGHT to believe in lies.

Lie #1: "I won't get caught."

Lie #2: "Violence is sometimes the only way to get way you want, especially if I can get me some honking big ass guns."

Lie #3: "I don't have what I need because OTHER people don't like my skin color."

Lie #4: "Cops hate me because of my skin color and they want me dead, just because, so why shouldn't I make them dead first."

Lie #5: "I have a RIGHT to do what I want."

Lie #6: "The only way people will like me is if I'm just like they are, so I've got to hang with dropouts and violent bums."

Lie #7: "There's no place in Whitey's world for me because of my skin color."

Lie #8: "I can't do this school ****, so I might as well just quit and go hang with my buddies and have some fun."

Lie #9: "Even if I could do the school ****, Whitey won't ever let me get a real job, so there's no point in even trying."

And the biggest lie of all: "You can't stop me."

That kid heard one lie after another from birth -- and nobody bothered to stop him from swallowing the lies when he was 8 and 9 and 10.

And that absolves him of personal responsibility?

No.

He made a string of bad choices proven by all the people who have been equally poor and heard equally diabolical lies and yet remained good citizens.

[rhet 2]

And that absolves him of personal responsibility?

No.

He made a string of bad choices proven by all the people who have been equally poor and heard equally diabolical lies and yet remained good citizens.

It doesn't absolve him at all.

Nor does it absolve those who told him such lies.

Absolution is NOT what I'm discussing.

I'm discussing the social corruption that destroyed five families for no good reason at all.

And the first destruction was this kid's decision to believe in and live by LIES.

He destroyed himself years ago, when he chose to live a lie -- and nobody stopped him.

[JudasGoat]

oakland is a toilet that breeds this kind of person. ANyone remember that video from a few years ago that had all those people atacking a lady inside a car for going to the police? How can police help when half the city punishes people for going to them?

[sgtmac_46]

Maybe the 'baby', as it greew into adulthood, simply chose to be an adult for whom murder is an option?

No one forced the perp to carry a gun in violation of his parole, did they?

People make choices; nothing necesarily 'turns' anyone into a murderer. Absolutely right! Some people just turn bad on their own.....no one else necessarily 'turns' them to evil. Of course sometimes people do. All we really know about this guy is where he grew up and what he did. More information is needed before folks start blaming anyone but this guy.

It's very possible to have decent family.......and a child who chooses a different path. I'll agree with the conclusion, though, that Oakland breeds this kind of person.

[jeepers]

His cousin might have second thoughts about her relative with this news:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/03/day-before-oakl.html


A day before a parolee killed four Oakland police officers, detectives in the city matched the man's DNA to an unsolved rape case, authorities said.


and this:

He was also a suspect in a murder in Alameda County, but prosecutors did not have enough evidence to charge him in the case.

[LouC]

His cousin might have second thoughts about her relative with this news:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/03/day-before-oakl.html



and this:

Yeah he was one piece of work.

I was contemplating starting a new thread on the recently come to light crimes and link to crimes but didn't get it done.

Here is a long but interesting read about this from San Francisco Chronicle LINK (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/03/23/MNBQ16LGNH.DTL&feed=rss.bayarea).

Witnesses said Mixon stood over the wounded officers, Sgt. Mark Dunakin, 40, and Officer John Hege, 41, and fired at least one round into each with a handgun before fleeing on foot to his sister's apartment half a block down 74th, acting Police Chief Howard Jordan said.

[jeepers]

Poor Lovelle, he was just misunderstood and unsupported.

[sgtmac_46]

It's unfortunate that one of the first two officers didn't put a round right through this guys skull at the beginning........but if they had, the SAD part is the media would be insinuating that they MURDERED ANOTHER BLACK MAN, as he hadn't shot them yet!

[jeepers]

Yeah he was one piece of work.

I was contemplating starting a new thread on the recently come to light crimes and link to crimes but didn't get it done.

Here is a long but interesting read about this from San Francisco Chronicle LINK (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/03/23/MNBQ16LGNH.DTL&feed=rss.bayarea).


Check out this: http://cbs5.com/local/oakland.officer.shootings.2.966215.html

Mixon was a suspect in a murder case in Alameda County in late 2007 but police didn't have enough evidence to charge him in the case, according to Hinkle.

However, in investigating the murder case authorities determined that Mixon had violated his parole by possessing drug paraphernalia and engaging in identity theft, forgery, fraud and attempted grand theft, Hinkle said.

[sgtmac_46]

Check out this: http://cbs5.com/local/oakland.officer.shootings.2.966215.html


Doesn't surprise me.....MOST states Probation and Parole offices have become a JOKE!

Moreover, at least in my experience, more and more P&P Officers have become SOCIAL WORKERS cheerleading for their Parolees, believing every BS lie they hear from them, and doing everything they can to keep them on the street......rather than a protector of the public!

[rhet 2]

Doesn't surprise me.....MOST states Probation and Parole offices have become a JOKE!

Moreover, at least in my experience, more and more P&P Officers have become SOCIAL WORKERS cheerleading for their Parolees, believing every BS lie they hear from them, and doing everything they can to keep them on the street......rather than a protector of the public!

And, in so doing, they damn the parolees to certain death and destruction, too.

Instead of helping, they're DESTROYING both the criminal AND the innocent.

Like the case in Texas of one convicted juvenile sex offender. He BEGGED the parole board not to let him out. They insisted, so he BEGGED for emasculation. He damned well KNEW he'd offend again, and told them he couldn't control himself, that he was TERRIFIED that next time he would kill a child.

He did. Within three weeks of his release.

He BEGGED for help -- and the Lunatics on that parole board refused to HELP a guy who could not control his own animal urges.

Like the case in Florida -- SEVENTEEN damned times his parole officer BEGGED a judge to revoke parole because he KNEW this guy was hunting his next child victim and would most likely kill the next little girl. A thirteen year old child suffered hell on earth before the animal finally destroyed her. Because a thrice-damned judge REFUSED TO DO HIS JOB.

Like Newark NJ -- judge RELEASED a Mexican illegal running an MS 13 gang of thugs, arrested on multiple counts of child rape, REFUSED to even call INS -- and the slime murdered four teens on their own school grounds -- murdered them because they were Black and were headed for college and professional careers instead of being drug slaves for him and his thugs. Because another thrice-damned judge REFUSED TO SERVE THE CAUSE OF JUSTICE -- refused to do his job.

That's TWO judges -- and a parole board, too -- who belong in prison as ACCESSORIES BEFORE THE FACT -- they MADE MURDER POSSIBLE. They AIDED AND ABETTED in rape and slaughter.

[LouC]

In a sentencing report, San Francisco probation officer Yvonne Williams wrote that Mixon's juvenile record was that of a "cold-hearted individual who does not have any regard for human life." She said state prison was the only way to "to rein in this man's proclivity for violence."

Wonder if she was read the riot act for making that statement?

[LouC]

This is where three strike type laws could work if applied clinically.

[jeepers]

Wonder if she was read the riot act for making that statement?


That's a sucker bet in California.

[rhet 2]

This is where three strike type laws could work if applied clinically.

One strike too many.

Especially with a report like Williams made.