sportscasters complaints

[dannyg79]

This should be an across the board deal, but everyone relates it to their own rooting interests. But tonite, after the Western Ky-Gonzaga game, where officials clearly didnt grant WKU a timeout when they called for one, Seth Davis on CBS made a ludicrous excuse for it. He said they werent infatic enough about getting it called. Excuse me, but until they make a rule that you have to give a "T" hand signal with a certain level of enthusiasm then that is BS excuse to benefit the officials.

My main point it this. Most major college or pro-officials make a nice living. Why dont they have to answer to the press after the games? And this isnt really soure grapes, dont get me wrong, I think we all cheer for teams that get screwed with officials, but also benefit from officials. But why arent officials held to a level where they have to answer questions? And why do some sportscasters blow officials off like its no big deal?

[WhiteHatBobby]

One way of solving the issue is to adopt the international basketball technique, one of the rule changes made by FIBA after the USA-USSR incident of 1972 when the Soviets were able to call a time out late in the game that gave them gold in München.

The basic international rules are (1) only the coach may call a time out so no cheap-shot time outs called to prevent loss of ball by lucky dog or stifle good defense, and (2) it is called only to the scorer, who will then apply it at the next dead ball or when that team has been scored upon.

FIBA Article 18.3 - Procedure on Charged Time Outs:

18.3 Procedure

18.3.1 Only a coach or assistant coach has the right to request a time-out. He shall establish visual contact with the scorer or he shall go to the scorer’s table and ask clearly for a time-out, making the proper conventional sign with his hands.

18.3.2 A time-out request may be cancelled only before the scorer's signal has sounded for such a request.

18.3.3 The time-out period:

• Begins when an official blows his whistle and gives the time-out signal.

• Ends when the official blows his whistle and beckons the teams back on the playing court.

18.3.4 As soon as a time-out opportunity begins, the scorer shall sound his signal to notify the officials that a request for a time-out has been made. If a field goal is scored against a team which has requested a time-out, the timer shall immediately stop the game clock and sound his signal.

18.3.5 During the time-out and during an interval of play before the beginning of the second (2nd), fourth (4th) or each extra period the players may leave the playing court and sit on the team bench and the persons permitted to be in the team bench area may enter the playing court provided the team members remain within the vicinity of their team bench area.

18.3.6 If the request for the time-out is made by either team after the ball is at the disposal of the free-throw shooter for the first or only free throw, the time-out shall be granted if:

• The last or only free throw is successful.

• It is followed by a throw-in at the centre line extended, opposite the scorer’s table. (In technical fouls or final two minutes of game)

• A foul is called between free throws. In this case the free throw(s) will be completed and the time-out will be permitted before the new foul penalty is administered.

• A foul is called before the ball becomes live after the last or only free throw. In this case the time-out will be permitted before the new foul penalty is administered.

• A violation is called before the ball becomes live after the last or only free throw. In this case the time-out will be permitted before the throw-in is administered.

In the event of consecutive sets of free throws and/or possession of the ball resulting from more than one (1) foul penalty, each set is to be treated separately.

[Dr. Funkenstein]

This should be an across the board deal, but everyone relates it to their own rooting interests. But tonite, after the Western Ky-Gonzaga game, where officials clearly didnt grant WKU a timeout when they called for one, Seth Davis on CBS made a ludicrous excuse for it. He said they werent infatic enough about getting it called. Excuse me, but until they make a rule that you have to give a "T" hand signal with a certain level of enthusiasm then that is BS excuse to benefit the officials.

My main point it this. Most major college or pro-officials make a nice living. Why dont they have to answer to the press after the games? And this isnt really soure grapes, dont get me wrong, I think we all cheer for teams that get screwed with officials, but also benefit from officials. But why arent officials held to a level where they have to answer questions? And why do some sportscasters blow officials off like its no big deal?

I didn't see it, but I will say that if the officials didn't see the coach calling for the TO, they can't grant it. That's probably what Davis was trying to say. If they didn't grant it right way, they should have been more emphatic about making sure they were seen.

[dannyg79]

I didn't see it, but I will say that if the officials didn't see the coach calling for the TO, they can't grant it. That's probably what Davis was trying to say. If they didn't grant it right way, they should have been more emphatic about making sure they were seen.

A player on the floor and the coach were both clearly calling a TO. Davis was simply making an excuse. There was no way in the world that the officials could have missed both the coach and the player calling a TO (the coach especially was emphatic), and if they did, then it is their fault for not paying attention. I agree with what you say, but Davis couldnt have been watching the same replay as the rest of the country if that is really what he thinks happened. He was just making an excuse in a situation that IMO is inexcusable. Now, there was .9 seconds left, so obviously, it would have taken a miracle for them to win, but they should have still had the chance.

Im actually venting more about Davis excusing it than the actual call. Yes, the call was wrong, and yes they should have had an opportunity to set a play up, but in that situation I realize that **** happens. But someone getting payed big bucks to commentate on games should know what they are talking about.

[dannyg79]

Another thing I am going to complain about, though this really doesnt have to do with the sports anchors. But why does CBS show the first half of one game, and the second half of another? I was trying to watch Louisville yesterday, and I got the first half. The second half, I got to watch USC-Mich state. I am not talking about when they cut to the last minute of a tight game or something like that. They took off the Louisville game when UL was up by 7 with 18 minutes left, and took me to Michigan state USC, who still had 15 minutes left in the game.

[super cool ski instructor]

Let me tell you...if you happened to watch the Pistons/Heat game on ABC you would have found out that Dwayne Wade was sent from down from Heaven to save all the hungry children in the world, stop all evil oppressers, and save more animals than the ASPCA and WSPA combined.

Thank God for Dwayne Wade for without him I would not be able to wake up each and every day.

[uncledoom]

I was happy Greg Anthony dug into Seth Davis when he made that statement. A TO is a TO. The refs missed it....fine. But don't say it was because "They didn't really mean to call it anyway..." :rolleyes:

[uncledoom]

Let me tell you...if you happened to watch the Pistons/Heat game on ABC you would have found out that Dwayne Wade was sent from down from Heaven to save all the hungry children in the world, stop all evil oppressers, and save more animals than the ASPCA and WSPA combined.

Thank God for Dwayne Wade for without him I would not be able to wake up each and every day.

Hopefully you're making the sign of the cross as you're saying this as well...:razz:

[super cool ski instructor]

Hopefully you're making the sign of the cross as you're saying this as well...:razz:

Of course.

I almost feel unworthy typing his while name out...maybe I should have used Dw-yne W-de. or something.

[Dr. Funkenstein]

Let me tell you...if you happened to watch the Pistons/Heat game on ABC you would have found out that Dwayne Wade was sent from down from Heaven to save all the hungry children in the world, stop all evil oppressers, and save more animals than the ASPCA and WSPA combined.

Thank God for Dwayne Wade for without him I would not be able to wake up each and every day.

Behold the trinity...The LeBron, the Dwyane and the Holy Kobe

[super cool ski instructor]

Behold the trinity...The LeBron, the Dwyane and the Holy Kobe

Amen.

[VA-165 Boomer]

The Missouri/Marquette game was poorly called in the last seven minutes IMHO.
Elbows caught on film and not a call or a comment by common taters.

[ALBOB2]

Does the fact that I HATE basketball make me an Antheist or a Heathen? :confused:

[Dr. Funkenstein]

Does the fact that I HATE basketball make me an Antheist or a Heathen? :confused:

Little of both.

I prefer to think you're a P.A.G.A.N. though

http://www.videodetective.net/photos/137/00578726_.jpg

[ALBOB2]

Little of both.

I prefer to think you're a P.A.G.A.N. though

http://www.videodetective.net/photos/137/00578726_.jpg

But I'm not a big fan of Mutton either. :confused:


Tom Hanks: "Thank God, it's Friday!" :))

[grapabeaux]

This should be an across the board deal, but everyone relates it to their own rooting interests. But tonite, after the Western Ky-Gonzaga game, where officials clearly didnt grant WKU a timeout when they called for one, Seth Davis on CBS made a ludicrous excuse for it. He said they werent infatic enough about getting it called. Excuse me, but until they make a rule that you have to give a "T" hand signal with a certain level of enthusiasm then that is BS excuse to benefit the officials.

My main point it this. Most major college or pro-officials make a nice living. Why dont they have to answer to the press after the games? And this isnt really soure grapes, dont get me wrong, I think we all cheer for teams that get screwed with officials, but also benefit from officials. But why arent officials held to a level where they have to answer questions? And why do some sportscasters blow officials off like its no big deal?

That wasn't the only thing Davis said about the play. He also said that his player was too quick to throw the ball in. The refs have to watch the ball come into play, so that they can start their manual clocks. If they're watching for the ball to get into play, it makes it more difficult to watch for a coach or a player off the ball to call time out.

[dannyg79]

That wasn't the only thing Davis said about the play. He also said that his player was too quick to throw the ball in. The refs have to watch the ball come into play, so that they can start their manual clocks. If they're watching for the ball to get into play, it makes it more difficult to watch for a coach or a player off the ball to call time out.

It doesnt take every ref to watch one player throw the ball in. It was clear that the coach and at least one player on the court were signaling for a TO. There is no reason to defend the refs when they clearly missed it.

[grapabeaux]

It doesnt take every ref to watch one player throw the ball in. It was clear that the coach and at least one player on the court were signaling for a TO. There is no reason to defend the refs when they clearly missed it.

That one player was in the furthest corner away from the action, and the WKU player threw the ball in bounds so fast that the timeout was missed.

So yes, there were good reasons why the refs would have missed two things going on at the same time. I'm not saying it wasn't a mistake, but it was certainly understandable that the play immediately after the basket on the court was paid attention to over the coach's attempt to call time out.