Romania Eyes Legalizing Consensual Incest

[Gabby]

How many believe that what consenting adults do is no one else's business????

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Romania Eyes Legalizing Consensual Incest, Wouldn't Be First Country in Europe

Three European Union nations — France, Spain and Portugal — do not prosecute consenting adults for incest, and Romania is considering following suit.

The shocking case of Austrian Josef Fritzl, found guilty this week of holding his daughter captive for 24 years and fathering her seven children, has focused new attention on incest — which is a crime in itself in Austria even if the acts are consensual. But in the Fritzl case it was in connection with rape, homicide and other charges that led to a sentence of life in a secure psychiatric ward.

Laws exempting parents, grandparents, brothers and sisters from prosecution for incestuous acts if they are not forced upon adult family members are decades old in France, Spain and Portugal.

In Romania, decriminalizing incest among consenting adults is being considered as part of a wide range of reforms to the country's criminal code. No date has been set yet for a parliament vote on the bill, and opposition to the proposal is fervent even among some lawmakers in the ruling coalition.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,510016,00.html
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[Gabby]

Because after several generations of incest the offspring seem a bit...off...past royal families as examples.

But in the Josef Fritzl, that man deserves the harshest punishment allowed especially with the circumstances of the case.

I've read that Fritzl will be locked up in the country club type facility.
It was a plea bargain he got for not fighting the charges. The sob should spend the rest of his life in the dungeon he locked his daughter and her children in.... with the light turned off, with no one to talk to. That's how she spent the years down there. For the first few years there was no light and he did not talk to her when he came down... he'd just rape her and leave. That's the existence he deserved.

Have you read the way he treated his mother in her last years? He kept her locked up in a room with the window bricked in so that she would not get any light and could not see outside. He was apparently paying her back for the abuse she gave him when he was a child. But ya know… at some point.. if a person cannot get over an abusive parent you let someone else take care of them. You don’t lock them up in a room for 10 years.

Fritzl lost his humanity a long time ago… at the hands of his own mother according to him.

But this think in Romania is not about cases like Fritzl’s… it’s about consensual relationships.

You bring up the issue of genetics.. but what about in consensual homosexual incest. Passing on bad genetics is not an issue there. Should that be illegal?

[Antrel]

There is no reason consensual incest should be illegal.

[2Parties1GlobalistGoal]

There is no reason consensual incest should be illegal.

What this gentleman said.

[AutoRacer55]

Incest, the game the whole family can play!

[Gabby]

Does anyone here really know what can, and quite often does happen to new borns from incestuous backrounds? The defects that children have? It aint pretty! Yes it should be illegal!

But what if there are no children from the incest... say that one or both are fixed... or it's homosexual? Or they abort the baby (remember that is how our society deals with unwanted babies).

[Dreamy]

An interesting article I read a few years ago.

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2007/05/02/lawful_incest_may_be_on_its_way/

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6424937.stm

[BasicGreatGuy]

Why should we care what Romania does, or wants to do on this matter? Their laws do not affect us.

[Dreamy]

Why should we care what Romania does, or wants to do on this matter? Their laws do not affect us.


I think Gabby just posted it as a topic for discussion BGG and because of the recent high profile case. I think the discussion can be explored on its own without being tied specifically to US laws.

[Antrel]

Does anyone here really know what can, and quite often does happen to new borns from incestuous backrounds? The defects that children have? It aint pretty! Yes it should be illegal!Children born of incest are not guaranteed to be "defected." And even if it were the case, who's to say that child's life is not still worth living?

[Antrel]

Why should we care what Romania does, or wants to do on this matter? Their laws do not affect us.Some people are more humanist than nationalist.

[Safiel]

I know there is currently a major case on the subject of consensual adult incest ongoing in Germany.

As long as it is adult and consensual, I file it in the "whatever floats your boat" category.

Usually, genetic issues do not arise unless incestuous relationships are practiced over multiple generations.

From a natural rights viewpoint, there is no assault on life, liberty or property rights going on, so no foul.

[BasicGreatGuy]

I think Gabby just posted it as a topic for discussion BGG and because of the recent high profile case. I think the discussion can be explored on its own without being tied specifically to US laws.

The xy axis is too screwed up on this topic to begin with. :))

[MrDuffy]

If this is the most important issue people have to argue about today, I think I'll just sit back, relax, read and laugh.
Argue on. Especially the one who just likes to argue. You know who you are.:doh::))

[Antrel]

Yea....and then both your children mysteriously become blind at age 15 and 16. Incest of any kind isnt safe.Well, they may as well just kill themselves if they go blind!

[MrDuffy]

Would that be me?:lol:
Darn. Silly me. I forgot to use my other fingers while I was counting.:doh:

[MrDuffy]

Well what would you like to argue about today?
Oh, I don't know. Something really serious like whether or not Adam and Eve had belly buttons.

[MrDuffy]

Nah....Hmm...Is that a pre-South Carolina state flag from the current blue one thats used today?
Negative. It's the Sovereignty Flag of South Carolina.

[Dreamy]

Well, they may as well just kill themselves if they go blind!

One word about incest:

Deliverance

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/Dreamy2/deliverance.jpg

I just don't see it catching on.:whistle:

[Dreamy]

:))I knew it! I knew it was coming! "You shir dew gotta perty mouf"! Grrrr...

Just paddle faster Ro and never you mind what them folks in Romania are doing.:twisted:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpBdmYRWRP8

:))

[BasicGreatGuy]

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g37/basicgreatguy/paddlefaster.jpg

[Dreamy]

*giggles, sighs, dip spits in patoon* puh ting!!

:wall::hand:

Please don't tell anyone we are related.

:))

[Samm]

Oh, I don't know. Something really serious like whether or not Adam and Eve had belly buttons.

Or whom did Cain marry and begat with if not his sister... :think:

[Dreamy]

Uh oh! I didnt think we were gonna disclose that...ever?! puh ting!!

Hey what can I say darlin' Ro. When you see one of your kin hanging around the incest thread so much it makes a girl nervous.:shifty:

[Gabby]

Or whom did Cain marry and begat with if not his sister... :think:

Some will argue that there were actually other tribes already in existance and that's where they go their brides.

[Samm]

Some will argue that there were actually other tribes already in existance and that's where they go their brides.

Then some would be making that up; for there is no evidence in the Bible of other previous (or for that matter, later) "creations."