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See It Clearly
March 20th, 2009, 9:39 am
A public service award to this clown?!?

This is absolutely ridiculous! Read the linked article and please sign the petition.

Who could justify an award to this freakin' clown who publicly accused U.S. Marines of cold-blooded murder in the firefight in Haditha, Iraq, and was caught on camera in the Abscam scandal appearing to negotiate over a bribe for his services, yet was honored by the Navy for his "selfless devotion to the Nation's Sailors and Marines."

If you are in the Military, were in the Military, know someone in the Military, have seen something about the Military on TV and this clown doesn't get your blood boiling, BO kool aid drinkers not included, you better get your head examined.

Check out the full report here:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=92372

Sign the petition here:

http://www.petitiononline.com/usmc2009/petition.html

EmmanuelGoldstein
March 20th, 2009, 10:01 am
Apparently the Secretary of the Navy disagrees with you.

ArmyMAJretired
March 20th, 2009, 10:09 am
Apparently the Secretary of the Navy disagrees with you.

Yep he is definately a big supporter of the troops.

"While serving as a representative from Pennsylvania, Murtha called Marines from 3d Battalion, 1st Marines 'cold blooded killers' who 'murdered innocent civilians.' Before an investigation into the Haditha incident was even conducted, Murtha went on numerous television news programs and announced that the Marines 'went into houses and killed women and children,'" the petition continues.

"He said, 'There's no question in my mind about what happened here. There was no gunfire, they killed four people in a taxi...24 people were killed.' When asked specifically if he claimed that innocent civilians were intentionally executed by Marines, he said, 'That's exactly what happened.' Not content to slander those Marines directly involved, he went on to claim that if these Marines were not punished, 'other Marines would say well I'll do the same thing.' Murtha then continued to use this incident to lobby for the immediate withdrawal of troops from Iraq, citing it as evidence that our military was incapable of winning the war," the petition said.

Eight Marines ultimately were charged in the incident. But charges were dropped against six and one was found innocent in a court-martial. The last case has been delayed indefinitely.

"Despite the facts, John Murtha refuses to apologize to those he slandered," the petition said.

ArmyMAJretired
March 20th, 2009, 10:10 am
Apparently the Secretary of the Navy disagrees with you.

Great thing that he has never been wrong.

Maybe he'd make a good Treasury Secretary.

Irish John
March 20th, 2009, 10:19 am
"While serving as a representative from Pennsylvania, Murtha called Marines from 3d Battalion, 1st Marines 'cold blooded killers' who 'murdered innocent civilians.' Before an investigation into the Haditha incident was even conducted,....

but Rep Murtha was right.

ArmyMAJretired
March 20th, 2009, 10:35 am
but Rep Murtha was right.

How so?

The Court Martials have declared them NOT GUILTY.

EmmanuelGoldstein
March 20th, 2009, 10:37 am
Great thing that he has never been wrong.



Murtha's biggest mistake is having a 'D' after his name. Because of that, no matter what he says or does he'll be bashed by the right.

Irish John
March 20th, 2009, 10:38 am
How so?

The Court Martials have declared them NOT GUILTY.

Was OJ not acquitted?

ArmyMAJretired
March 20th, 2009, 10:40 am
Murtha's biggest mistake is having a 'D' after his name. Because of that, no matter what he says or does he'll be bashed by the right.

Er, NO. If a Republican had called marines cold blodded killers, I would demand their head as well.

Color me patriotic that way.

What makes it worse is that Murtha was a Marine. If anyone should have given them the benefit of doubt it should be HIM.

Partisan politics is thicker than service in his world.

ArmyMAJretired
March 20th, 2009, 10:41 am
Was OJ not acquitted?

Nice deflection, he's doing time now.

Back to Murtha, you claimed he was right, proof?

BTW Irish have YOU ever served a day in uniform, cub scouts excepted.

See It Clearly
March 20th, 2009, 10:43 am
Murtha's biggest mistake is having a 'D' after his name. Because of that, no matter what he says or does he'll be bashed by the right.

Funny thing about that 'D' is that, according to your logic, everything he does will be right in your eyes then.

What he said about the Marines, and continues to say by not apologizing, is disgraceful.

EmmanuelGoldstein
March 20th, 2009, 10:57 am
Funny thing about that 'D' is that, according to your logic, everything he does will be right in your eyes then.


Hardly, since I'm not a 'D'.

See It Clearly
March 20th, 2009, 10:59 am
Nice deflection, he's doing time now.

Back to Murtha, you claimed he was right, proof?

BTW Irish have YOU ever served a day in uniform, cub scouts excepted.

Major, Irish has made an interesting observation. No doubt, unbeknownst to him, but he is actually comparing O.J.'s crimes to Murtha's criminal statements about the Marine's.

The bottom line is, as you have accurately pointed out, O.J. ended up in jail anyway. So there is still hope Murtha will too!

See It Clearly
March 20th, 2009, 10:59 am
Hardly, since I'm not a 'D'.

Then why defend him?

EmmanuelGoldstein
March 20th, 2009, 11:23 am
Then why defend him?

I'm not defending him.

SUVRon
March 20th, 2009, 12:22 pm
Murtha's biggest mistake is having a 'D' after his name. Because of that, no matter what he says or does he'll be bashed by the right.

Anyone who calls our Marines cold blooded killers with no evidence at all deserves to be bashed.

See It Clearly
March 20th, 2009, 1:09 pm
I'm not defending him.

You sure seem to be when you imply by your statement that the "right" will bash whatever he does or says because he has a 'D' by his name.

If you are not defending him then what else would you mean by that statement?

LoneStarHero
March 20th, 2009, 2:23 pm
It's not my place to criticize a man being honored for service I never rendered to the nation.

Congratulations Representative Murtha!

riverrider
March 20th, 2009, 3:08 pm
http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?p=51129621#post51129621
see post 238.......


"No Liberty, No Peace."
RR

spearmaster
March 20th, 2009, 4:39 pm
Murtha's biggest mistake is having a 'D' after his name. Because of that, no matter what he says or does he'll be bashed by the right.

Murtha should be bashed by anyhow who supports the troops. I have no use for anyone who bashes our brave warriors.

EmmanuelGoldstein
March 20th, 2009, 6:38 pm
You sure seem to be when you imply by your statement that the "right" will bash whatever he does or says because he has a 'D' by his name.

If you are not defending him then what else would you mean by that statement?

Just going by what I've read out here.

EmmanuelGoldstein
March 20th, 2009, 6:39 pm
Anyone who calls our Marines cold blooded killers with no evidence at all deserves to be bashed.

For that? Of course. But this was happening long before he made those statements.

EnchantedFrog
March 20th, 2009, 6:43 pm
Murtha being honored by the military is like Robert Byrd being honored by the NAACP.

ExDem
March 20th, 2009, 6:45 pm
Nice deflection, he's doing time now.

Back to Murtha, you claimed he was right, proof?

BTW Irish have YOU ever served a day in uniform, cub scouts excepted.

I wonder where Irish ran off to? Maybe Mom called him upstairs for supper.

spearmaster
March 20th, 2009, 7:27 pm
Murtha being honored by the military is like Robert Byrd being honored by the NAACP.

:)):)):))

TinCan
March 20th, 2009, 8:29 pm
Well, Winter is no longer the SECNAV so maybe this was a parting gift to line up his next gig.
Here's a link to Winter's farewell address:
http://www.navy.mil/navydata/people/secnav/Winter/Message/Secretary%20of%20the%20Navy%20Farewell%20Message%2 0to%20the%20Department.pdf

RickRhetoric
March 20th, 2009, 8:52 pm
Murtha called the people of Pennsylvania, racists, low-lifes, peasants, bubbas, bumpkins and gun-toting bible thumpers. They believed him, atoned, repented and respectfully re-elected him by an overwhelming margin.

Murtha accused the Marines of being terrorists, thugs and illiterate fools. But the military still loves and respects him even more.

It's just a twist and quirk of human psychology and nature that when people are punished, insulted and abused by someone in authority, they love and respect the authority figure even more.

Irish John
March 25th, 2009, 5:03 pm
BTW Irish have YOU ever served a day in uniform, cub scouts excepted.

Yes, and you would have called me "Sir".

ArmyMAJretired
March 25th, 2009, 5:15 pm
Yes, and you would have called me "Sir".

Yeah, even Clinton had that title.

Care to expand on your vast military experience?

coyote1880
March 25th, 2009, 5:15 pm
How so?

The Court Martials have declared them NOT GUILTY.

Thats Courts Martial.

:)

Just teasing.

I am wishing we could disown him, but we can not.

He did serve honorably.

But he lost his honor on the way to Washington.

ArmyMAJretired
March 25th, 2009, 5:16 pm
but Rep Murtha was right.

Got that proof yet?

ArmyMAJretired
March 25th, 2009, 5:18 pm
Thats Courts Martial.

:)

Just teasing.

I am wishing we could disown him, but we can not.

He did serve honorably.

But he lost his honor on the way to Washington.

Well you probably have more experience with Courts Martial than I.

Just teasing back. :))

Although I was an Article 32 officer once.

coyote1880
March 25th, 2009, 5:24 pm
It is possible Maj that Irish would need to be called Sir.

The Shoebox has plenty of noncoms and remfs who rose far because they always made sure the stroke-25b had the proper counter signature before mailing ammo to the front.

ArmyMAJretired
March 25th, 2009, 5:29 pm
It is possible Maj that Irish would need to be called Sir.

The Shoebox has plenty of noncoms and remfs who rose far because they always made sure the stroke-25b had the proper counter signature before mailing ammo to the front.

Tell me about it, I saw one below the zone LTC in AQUISITION CORPS that couldn't lead water downhill.

I saw another that had to be a quota promotion.

They are usually in the front of the chow line.

Cav Scout
March 25th, 2009, 11:10 pm
Was OJ not acquitted?

So let me get this straight 'Sir', you are comparing our Marines to OJ...

Just what the hell were you in charge of, the 2-4-7 shop?

Cav Scout
March 25th, 2009, 11:15 pm
but Rep Murtha was right.

No 'Sir' he was not. Not only that but any...any scum that stands on the floor of our hallowed halls and talks about our own Soldiers, Sailors, Marines and Airmen that way is only deserving of one thing. So you can run about professing your wisdom and what not, but I have a feeling that you would have a whole other opinion of that sort of thing if you had ever actually led anyone anywhere.

BillyBobUSA
March 25th, 2009, 11:16 pm
Apparently the Secretary of the Navy disagrees with you.


Apparently the Secretary of the Navy is a politically appointed peanut head.

Cav Scout
March 25th, 2009, 11:17 pm
Yes, and you would have called me "Sir".

Yep we might have, with all the inflection that it deserved...'Sir'

TinCan
March 26th, 2009, 1:00 am
Yes, and you would have called me "Sir".

Well, he is an officer and a gentleman so yes, he probably would. If he was raised by good decent parents and you are older than him then again he probably would. Now, as for me, I've been called lots of things but when I received my first set of anchors, everyone just seemed to call me "Chief." Funny thing about rank, we are all taught to render honors to the rank and not the person, right? To get that as a person, you have to earn it.

Murtha earned the right to be called a "marine" because of his service but, as a wise and venerable "marine" has already pointed out, due to his unfounded comments, Murtha has appeared to have lost his "honor." Somewhere along the way, Murtha apparently lost or discarded it along with everything righteous, good, and honorable that being a "marine" provided because of his earnest rush to judgement against fellow marines, for personal gain vs waiting for the facts and ruling from the investigation and eventual courts martial. Which by the way absolved those marines that Murtha lambasted so, how exactly was Murtha right? Were you a witness to the event?

HeadOnStraight
March 26th, 2009, 10:09 am
but Rep Murtha was right.
Right about what exactly?

Rhonda
March 26th, 2009, 10:32 am
but Rep Murtha was right.

Please expound on that? Thanks

consusa
March 26th, 2009, 6:03 pm
As a former member of the U.S. Navy, a patriotic citizen, and as a fair-minded person, I'm appalled by the award to Murtha of anything - except, perhaps, a collective boot to his ass from his constituents. However, in the unending world of political ass kissing (which includes the Boys With The Bling on Their Shoulders in the Pentagon), it's completely believable.

dittoheadAZ
March 26th, 2009, 6:15 pm
but Rep Murtha was right.

No, he was 100% wrong - and that slam at our Marines earns YOU a trip to the Ignore List.

dittoheadAZ
March 26th, 2009, 6:17 pm
Murtha's biggest mistake is having a 'D' after his name. Because of that, no matter what he says or does he'll be bashed by the right.

No, his biggest mistake is that he's full of manure.

I say the same about Arlen the Spectre, who as an 'R' next to his name, even though he's full of manure on fiscal and moral issues rather than defense.

dittoheadAZ
March 26th, 2009, 6:18 pm
You sure seem to be when you imply by your statement that the "right" will bash whatever he does or says because he has a 'D' by his name.

If you are not defending him then what else would you mean by that statement?

I guess it wasn't a defense - it was an Online Contingency Deflection! ;)

dittoheadAZ
March 26th, 2009, 6:20 pm
Yeah, even Clinton had that title.

Care to expand on your vast military experience?

I think you overstated his military experience by 50%.

:think:

;)

riverrider
March 26th, 2009, 8:12 pm
Just stopped by again to take a leak. Making a head call in Dublin . . . Sir!
RR

Rhonda
March 26th, 2009, 9:05 pm
Just stopped by again to take a leak. Making a head call in Dublin . . . Sir!
RR


:)):))

riverrider
March 26th, 2009, 9:53 pm
:)):))
Yeah, you gotta laugh at this stuff sometimes.
Though the subject is a bit disheartening. What Murtha did at the time was wrong. He jumped the gun or was pushed over the line by those who figured that using a Marine to blame other Marines, ending up with it was Bush's fault afterall, would help them with their politics. What's a bit more blood, a Grunt's honor, when there's an election coming up . . .
RR