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Momma
March 19th, 2009, 9:41 pm
The National Guard is going to be deployed to the borders. Mark it!

U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder and Homeland Security Janet Napolitano announced plans this week to meet their Mexican counterparts -- Attorney General Eduardo Medina and Interior Minister Fernando Francisco Gomez Mont -- at an arms trafficking conference in Cuernavaca, Mexico in early April.

She said she did not expect regular military forces to be deployed to any violent scenario. Rather, she said, "the real issue is the National Guard right now."

http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSTRE52I7X120090319

U.S.-Mexico border security to be boosted

A U.S. official working on Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano's plan, scheduled to be unveiled Thursday, told the Chronicle that additional security personnel would be sent to the border, including up to 90 officers from Customs and Border Enforcement and Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/us-mexico-border-security-boosted/story.aspx?guid=%7B8D6A80F8-40E8-49E9-9B95-8EB6737539C8%7D&dist=msr_1

Immigration officials are considering asking Congress for approval to shift tens of millions of dollars from enforcing workplace immigration laws to the anti-cartel efforts along the Southwest border, according to a person familiar with the discussions who spoke on condition of anonymity because officials have not yet made the request to Congress. Such a request could face stiff resistance from lawmakers who want that money spent investigating employers who knowingly hire illegal immigrants.

http://www.star-telegram.com/state_news/story/1266635.html

So, here we go! The National Guard will be deployed to watch our border, their will be a ban on assault weapons in our future, and now you know why workplace immigration is no longer going to be enforced.

camp_steveo
March 19th, 2009, 9:52 pm
It will be one thing that I don't disagree with.

PheonixOps
March 19th, 2009, 9:56 pm
It will be one thing that I don't disagree with.

LOL, I was wondering what was "so bad" about it...... Ilike the idea, as long as they don't make the NG into geldings (no ammo etc.).

camp_steveo
March 19th, 2009, 9:58 pm
LOL, I was wondering what was "so bad" about it...... Ilike the idea, as long as they don't make the NG into geldings (no ammo etc.).

That would be bad....

Lost Soul
March 19th, 2009, 9:58 pm
I like the idea as long as they don't leave the NG out to dry.

I can see it now, Mexican drug runners firing on our troops and the ACLU backed by a bunch of attorneys making sure the drug runner rights are not violated.

camp_steveo
March 19th, 2009, 10:08 pm
Listen, I served with the Arkansas NG in 2004-2005 in Iraq, and we patrolled some of the worst sectors of Baghdad. Haifa st to be exact. Those guys are good.

IF they were allowed to do their job, any drug gangs would be destroyed.

BigGuy
March 19th, 2009, 10:12 pm
Watch, they will be only allowed to carry binoculars and note pads to count and mark down all the drug runners and boarder jumpers they see and maybe they'll be allowed to lay down some razor wire.....

Momma
March 19th, 2009, 10:15 pm
Listen, I served with the Arkansas NG in 2004-2005 in Iraq, and we patrolled some of the worst sectors of Baghdad. Haifa st to be exact. Those guys are good.

IF they were allowed to do their job, any drug gangs would be destroyed.


I hope so! The last time we had Military intervention on our soil a little over ten years ago this happened:

After Marine on Patrol Kills a Teen-Ager, a Texas Border Village Wonders Why

By SAM HOWE VERHOVEK

Published: Sunday, June 29, 1997

The marines, from Camp Pendleton, Calif., were on a drug-surveillance mission, part of a military presence that has grown along the border since a decade ago, when the Reagan Administration secured a historic loosening of 19th-century laws barring the use of military forces in domestic law enforcement.

It was an encounter between four camouflage-clad United States marines and a young man herding his family's goats on a rocky, desolate bluff of desert above the Rio Grande. It ended when one marine fired his M-16 rifle and hit the teen-ager, Esequiel Hernandez Jr., who bled to death on a windswept hill overlooking his adobe home and the cemetery where he was buried a few days later.

http://www.nytimes.com/1997/06/29/us/after-marine-on-patrol-kills-a-teen-ager-a-texas-border-village-wonders-why.html

Just let the military go in and do their job this time and don't be so judgmental!

tguns
March 19th, 2009, 10:16 pm
So long as these Guard units are not federalized, I think it would be a good move.

PheonixOps
March 19th, 2009, 10:16 pm
Listen, I served with the Arkansas NG in 2004-2005 in Iraq, and we patrolled some of the worst sectors of Baghdad. Haifa st to be exact. Those guys are good.

IF they were allowed to do their job, any drug gangs would be destroyed.

I agree. That "IF" kind of makes me concerned. I don't want them there as sitting ducks with no ammo or passive rules of engagement.

Momma
March 19th, 2009, 10:17 pm
Watch, they will be only allowed to carry binoculars and note pads to count and mark down all the drug runners and boarder jumpers they see and maybe they'll be allowed to lay down some razor wire.....

I think we already have enough bean counters in Texas:eek:

Lost Soul
March 19th, 2009, 10:20 pm
Listen, I served with the Arkansas NG in 2004-2005 in Iraq, and we patrolled some of the worst sectors of Baghdad. Haifa st to be exact. Those guys are good.

IF they were allowed to do their job, any drug gangs would be destroyed.
I was in the 82nd and know the drug cartel have no chance against our troops.

But I can see orders from liberal DC where the NG hands are tied or cannot use deadly force even if engaged.

CrusaderFrank
March 19th, 2009, 10:48 pm
I don't believe for a single second that Bomama or Napoletano are serious about border security. This is DEFINITELY a ruse

spearmaster
March 19th, 2009, 10:50 pm
Listen, I served with the Arkansas NG in 2004-2005 in Iraq, and we patrolled some of the worst sectors of Baghdad. Haifa st to be exact. Those guys are good.

IF they were allowed to do their job, any drug gangs would be destroyed.

I agree. I got out of active duty in 2003 and went straight into the Ohio Army National Guard and they are as every bit as professional as the active Army. We had some Alaska NG troops attached with us when we deployed in '02 and they too were very professional and competent. I totally confident our NG Soldiers will do a great job on the border.

Momma
March 19th, 2009, 11:09 pm
I don't believe for a single second that Bomama or Napoletano are serious about border security. This is DEFINITELY a ruse

What's the ruse??

Momma
March 19th, 2009, 11:20 pm
I want to make it clear that I support our troops in every form, shape, and fashion. If they are needed at our border, so be it. They had better be given the ammunition and backing that they need. I do not want our troops going down to the border as defenseless pansy's.

I do not like assault weapons of any kind. That being said, I do not want my right to bear arms to be infringed upon and that is what these MoMo's are leading up to. First, it will be to ban assault type weapons and then they will move on from there. The average guy that I know who actually owns one of these type weapons shoots them off in the woods, has a good laugh, and drinks a beer.

As, for the moving of funds from workforce immigration to drug enforcement, frankly I think if we have enough money to bail out Larry, Moe, and Curly Joe, then we have enough money and people for both drug and immigration enforcement.