View Full Version : Arsonist Sentenced to Die
BillyBobUSA
March 19th, 2009, 7:52 am
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/03/18/california.fire.death.penalty/index.html
This guy deserves the death sentence as much as anyone can.
You let this fire-bug out and he will start more fires and kill more people.
He is what the death penalty was made for.
sgtmac_46
March 19th, 2009, 8:25 am
Hang the SOB!
migbuster
March 21st, 2009, 8:52 pm
To bad we can burn him at the steak.....teh gurney is to nice for a POS like it......
FidelisAdMortem
March 21st, 2009, 8:59 pm
Life without parole would also keep him from ever doing it again.
F9thRet
March 21st, 2009, 9:04 pm
This is California, Life means 5-10. ;)
All I can say is Good.
Stephen
Pudge
March 21st, 2009, 11:25 pm
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/03/18/california.fire.death.penalty/index.html
This guy deserves the death sentence as much as anyone can.
You let this fire-bug out and he will start more fires and kill more people.
He is what the death penalty was made for.
I agree. He should die in the way those firefighters died- set him on fire.
Instead, he'll rot on death row until he dies of old age, most likely.
BillyBobUSA
March 21st, 2009, 11:38 pm
Life without parole would also keep him from ever doing it again.
No it wouldnt since there is always the chance some bleeding heart nitwit will come along and grant him a pardon or he can escape.
Either way justice calls for him to die, IMO.
I know that is all that would let me feel satisfied if I lost a loved one in a fire started by that slime ball.
gdoane
March 22nd, 2009, 12:11 am
Life without parole would also keep him from ever doing it again.
Jails aren't foolproof and are escaped from all the time. The escape rate is about 0.5%, or about 1 in 200 prisoners escape custody.
http://www.slate.com/id/1007001/
Risk management means there's a level of acceptable risk that this man may escape and commit further arsons and murders.
I'm not willing to buy into a 0.5% risk of that happening. I want 99.9995% certainty that this man will NEVER do this again and the only way to guarantee that is to execute him. Escapes from the grave are about that rare.
If he has to die to make sure that he doesn't escape, then it's a necessary step to ensure public safety.
Several weeks ago, we had a convicted child molester in Phoenix, in the custody of Maricopa County Sheriff's Office who just walked away.
http://www.azcentral.com/12news/news/articles/2009/03/05/20090305cruzupdate0305-ON-CP.html
This guy was CONVICTED of molesting and impregnating a 9-year-old girl, and he was serving a LIFE SENTENCE of 35 YEARS with NO PAROLE but was he in PRISON? Nope!
Adrian Gonzalez Cruz, 26, an illegal alien sentenced to 35 years to life with no parole for raping a 9-year-old, JUST WALKED OUT OF COURT.
The man was supposed to be in prison until he was at LEAST 60 years old, and today where is he? You don't know? If you do, then please contact the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office at (602) 876-1000.
LIFE IN PRISON DOES NOT WORK. It's not a solution, it's a serious risk.
We had it right about a hundred years ago when this creep would have been hanged from the tallest tree.
rhet 2
March 22nd, 2009, 12:20 am
Besides which, prison is the most cruel, brutal and vicious society on earth.
And being forever caged like a wild animal, marched around in chains, with armed guards ready to kill the poor bastard at the least sign of violence -- nice way to live, that is.
We treat stray dogs and unwanted wild cats more kindly than we do murderers and rapists. THEM we put out of their misery. People we make utterly and abjectly miserable for the rest of their lives.
Alaric
March 22nd, 2009, 1:58 am
California leads the nation in death row inmates, almost twice as many as Texas. But generously handing out death sentences doesn't mean anything where there is no follow through. Any death sentence handed out in California today will never be carried out.
sgtmac_46
March 22nd, 2009, 4:05 am
Life without parole would also keep him from ever doing it again.
Unless he finds a way to set the prison on fire.
BillyBobUSA
March 22nd, 2009, 8:19 am
California leads the nation in death row inmates, almost twice as many as Texas. But generously handing out death sentences doesn't mean anything where there is no follow through. Any death sentence handed out in California today will never be carried out.
California suffers from Death Row constipation.
What that state needs is a good enema.
BillyBobUSA
March 22nd, 2009, 8:21 am
Unless he finds a way to set the prison on fire.
Dont prisoners sometimes set fire to their own areas in protest or whatever?
My point is its not unheard of.
Arsonists that cause the death of other people should be executed like any other murderer.
There is a reason that the phrase 'playing with fire' is synonymous with 'reckless foolishness'.
Alaric
March 22nd, 2009, 1:10 pm
According to one 2006 report, housing an inmate costs 35K/year but according to a 2008 report, death row housing costs about 90K more per year than normal inmates.
So cash strapped CA could save about 87 million bucks a year if they got on with it.
FidelisAdMortem
March 22nd, 2009, 2:15 pm
Is that cost adjustment b/c they are factoring in the cost of appeals that death row inmates exercise?
If not, I think someone needs to check the books and see why there is such a difference among inmates, the cost of housing, etc.
Personally, I prefer life without possibility of parole. I want to know that ******* is locked in like the animal he is, I want to visit him whether he accepts my visit or not, I want him to live with it, have nightmares about it. I get no satisfaction with him being killed. For when that occures, his nightmares are over, mine will forever live with me.
ImNewHere
March 22nd, 2009, 3:02 pm
He just needs our love. If we could just show him a little compassion, a little human understanding, he wouldn't do such bad things.
He feels so alone in the world. We can change that and bring some sunshine into his very unhappy life.
gdoane
March 22nd, 2009, 3:56 pm
He just needs our love. If we could just show him a little compassion, a little human understanding, he wouldn't do such bad things.
He feels so alone in the world. We can change that and bring some sunshine into his very unhappy life.
Well, ya know the old saying "you always hurt the ones you love" so I suggest we show our unconditional love for this arsonist jackass with a good old fashioned hanging.
We can call it our "love 'em and lynch 'em" policy. We can even give our little lovable firebug the "this is going to hurt me more than it does you" pre-spanking speech.
rhet 2
March 22nd, 2009, 5:05 pm
Is that cost adjustment b/c they are factoring in the cost of appeals that death row inmates exercise?
If not, I think someone needs to check the books and see why there is such a difference among inmates, the cost of housing, etc.
Personally, I prefer life without possibility of parole. I want to know that ******* is locked in like the animal he is, I want to visit him whether he accepts my visit or not, I want him to live with it, have nightmares about it. I get no satisfaction with him being killed. For when that occures, his nightmares are over, mine will forever live with me.
Ah, you are much more vindictive than I am.
I just want the murderous hate-filled psychotic bastardized WASTED not-human already dead in heart and mind out of my way forever.
ben41281
March 22nd, 2009, 5:43 pm
GOOD! I hope he enjoys the warm place he is headed for!
Alaric
March 22nd, 2009, 8:25 pm
Is that cost adjustment b/c they are factoring in the cost of appeals that death row inmates exercise?
No, its just housing costs.
If the state is going to execute them then fast track it. If not then commute the sentences. Either way, quit soaking the tax payer. The scumbag has victimized the public once, don't let him keep doing it.
FidelisAdMortem
March 22nd, 2009, 8:26 pm
No, its just housing costs.
Well then someone should investigate why theres such a discrepency.