Shouls nazi rallies be legal in America? Whats your opinion?

[sza]

You need to provide a reasonable synopsis if you post video links. Further... you need to have personal commentary on the points of the video you wish to discuss.

These are discussion boards. Members who cannot access multimedia, are on slow dial-up connections, on bandwidth limited accounts, etc. cannot discuss an unseen video. Failure to provide a reasonable synopsis is grounds for removal of the link and / or post.

Further, what we are seeing a lot of is links to videos that have already been posted (or another version of them) and without a synopsis members have no way of knowing they are simply wasting their time and bandwidth. LEE

[FidelisAdMortem]

Yes.

[Stuball]

Here take a look at this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Swukpgmuqr0&feature=channel_page

If this link doesnt work, go to youtube.com and search 'nsm unbelieveable'. Should spreading this kind of hate be legal in America? I want you guys to give me your opinion on this.
How many people here do you think can read Hebrew?

[Stuball]

Yes they should. America is based on free speech. If I want to say I hate *******then that should be legal.
Not on this board
Edit this or be reported
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[mysticbeauty_nbeast]

How many groups fall into this category? Westboro Baptists? FLDS groups? KKK morons? Small extremist groups like Mecha....they are all the same.

They have the right to expose themselves for the morons they are...so the authorities can keep track of them. Kinda dumb on the part of these extremists huh?

~Mysty

[sza]

I dont care about the hebrew part of it. The rest of the film should tell you all you need to know. Dont assume that these are just "a few people". Nazi movements like the aryan brotherhood, aryan nations, the order, phineas priests, the NSM, NSLF, NSDAP, ANSWP, Stromfront, stormtroopers, KKK, (just to name a few) are GROWING! The question of the day, i guess, is when does it get to a point that this is considered too hatefull and too dangerous? They threaten revolution regularely and speak of how Minorities would either be allowed to live in the USA as second class citizens, or not at all when they 'take over the country'; basically overthrowing the constitution, especially the 14th amendment which guarentees equal protection to all people.
When does this become illegal, if ever? (other than dierct violence)

[BillBrown]

I dont care about the hebrew part of it. The rest of the film should tell you all you need to know. Dont assume that these are just "a few people". Nazi movements like the aryan brotherhood, aryan nations, the order, phineas priests, the NSM, NSLF, NSDAP, ANSWP, Stromfront, stormtroopers, KKK, (just to name a few) are GROWING! The question of the day, i guess, is when does it get to a point that this is considered too hatefull and too dangerous? They threaten revolution regularely and speak of how Minorities would either be allowed to live in the USA as second class citizens, or not at all when they 'take over the country'; basically overthrowing the constitution, especially the 14th amendment which guarentees equal protection to all people.
When does this become illegal, if ever? (other than dierct violence)

It doesn't.
It's protected by free speech.
Advocating the violent overthrow of the government is illegal. Absent that, it's legal.

[nortman]

They have the right to spew their ignorance just as we have a right to say they are morons. Doesn't matter whether they are KKK, Illinois Nazis, Rainbow Push or whatever group, they have a right to say their garbage and we have a right to call it ********.

[Safiel]

As long as they don't violate the life, liberty or property rights of other people, they have the absolute right to espouse their views in public.

It isn't "free speech except for morons." It is free speech for all, regardless of how stupid or ignorant they might be.

[troy]

Yes...their tights are protected. Plus its nice to know who they are. They're idiots.

[Mimiheart]

They can say and demonstrate whatever as long as they do it peacefully. The minute they set foot on my synagogue's property or touch my child's school or threaten... lock 'em up.

[King Cantona]

Freedom of speech dictates that the answer is yes, I agree that idiots should be able to spout their own nonsense all they want, most people are clever enough to see it for what it is...

These idiots ALWAYS make it clear to sensible people how daft their ideas are........

Anyway why deprive the normal majority of this great comedy value?.....:mrgreen:.....

[Pudge]

The best cure for this kind of hate mentality is free speech. If you ban their marches and censor their speech and make their thoughts illegal you simply rally more lost and confused people to their cause. Better to let them spew their hate and be thought of as the morons they are than to use the power of government to in essence make them martyrs.

[BillBrown]

They can say and demonstrate whatever as long as they do it peacefully. The minute they set foot on my synagogue's property or touch my child's school or threaten... lock 'em up.

I'm not sure about the synagogue part.
Are there "no trespass" signs on the synagogue grounds?
Could I be arrested for walking across them?

[Mimiheart]

I'm not sure about the synagogue part.
Are there "no trespass" signs on the synagogue grounds?
Could I be arrested for walking across them?
Depending on the time of day, yes. There's usually a police officer on the grounds because we've had issues with antisemitism and vandalism. If you can't show that you have a reason to be there, you can be escorted off the grounds.

On the weekends we have high school kids that play basketball games in the parking lot and no one bothers them. But if a large group of people came on there wearing Nazi regalia, yeah, they could be arrested for trespassing.

[BillM50]

Personally I believe that what makes America great are the liberties, what's left of them at least, that we enjoy. One of those liberties is freedom of speech. That includes all speech!

One of the true test's of this freedom is the existence of speech that many of us do not agree with no matter what the content might be. All points of view should be permitted. Once we begin to discriminate between viewpoints, because of personal preference, and attempt to impose that viewpoint on others, by excluding opinions that we don't agree with, freedom of speech no longer exists.

We also have the freedom not to listen. We can always just turn off the radio or the TV.

[BillM50]

Personally I believe that what makes America great are the liberties, what's left of them at least, that we enjoy. One of those liberties is freedom of speech. That includes all speech!

One of the true test's of this freedom is the existence of speech that many of us do not agree with no matter what the content might be. All points of view should be permitted. Once we begin to discriminate between viewpoints, because of personal preference, and attempt to impose that viewpoint on others, by excluding opinions that we don't agree with, freedom of speech no longer exists.

We also have the freedom not to listen. We can always just turn off the radio or the TV.