Stimulus Watch... See how much your state is getting.

[itsrea]

Stimulus Watch will let you check to see how much of the Stimulus Package your state has applied for so far - just click on the link:

Find projects by state or territory (http://www.stimuluswatch.org/project/by_state)


Now, what I like about this site is you can vote on whether you think the projects for any given city is worthy of the tax dollars or not. You can even comment on the projects. The site lists the types of projects, the number of jobs they project will be provided, and the cost of each project.

For instance one person says of the $6,371,250 that Tonasket, Washington is getting: Tonasket is a town of about 1000 people.
Nothing would destroy this town more than the infusion of government money with government strings attached.
The local government already does enough to keep this town depressed.
I hope the city turns down all this money. Tonasket is a town rife with all sorts problems with a preexisting hospital funds problem never mind an "improvement project" is little more the socializing of America.
I love my town and we can make it on our own!
NO THANKS!

:))

So far (not all the cities that plan to apply have their proposals in yet) my state of Washington has applied for $1,713,748,676.

Washington State cities listed so far are:

Auburn • Bellevue • Bremerton • Brewster • Bridgeport • Cle Elum • Colville • Creston • Edmonds • Everett • Fife • Kettle Falls • Kirkland • Lakewood • Leavenworth • Longview • Marcus • Mattawa • Moses Lake • Northport • Okanogan • Pacific • Redmond • Renton • Riverside • Seattle • Snoqualmie • Spokane • Sumner • Tacoma • Tonasket • Vancouver • Wenatchee • Wilbur • Winthrop • Yakima • Yarrow Point

I've been doing some checking..

The city of Auburn, Washington had a little over 40,000 people last census and it's getting $136,553,318. So Far.

The city of Yarrow Point had a population of 1,080 people at the last census, and ranks #4 in affluence in the state. It's getting $2,900,000. Part of that is going for a Public Sports Court at a cost of $100,000.00.

My town probably will not get any money because we are not incorporated and do not have a city council to put in a bid for us.. Maybe the local business people could get together, but I don't know.

I'd imagine most of the towns that were affected by the flooding of the Cowlitz River on highway 12 are in the same shape.

[Sun]

In my State of NY, Gov. Paterson wanted nuisance taxes on haircuts, soda with sugar, recreation like bowling, golf, etc.. He claims we won't now have those because of the stimulus. Big deal, I say. Now we, and children who haven't even been born yet will have this HUGE FEDERAL debt to pay for.

[itsrea]

In my State of NY, Gov. Paterson wanted nuisance taxes on haircuts, soda with sugar, recreation like bowling, golf, etc.. He claims we won't now have those because of the stimulus. Big deal, I say. Now we, and children who haven't even been born yet will have this HUGE FEDERAL debt to pay for.He's actually saying he won't tax you now for those things because he's asking for some of the stimulus instead?

:rolleyes:

Tell him in two years time, when the money runs out he will HAVE to tax you for those things anyway... cause the state will be so far in debt there is now way you can get out without raising taxes.

[bella-day]

Hi there rea.

Not a dime of the stimulus money is coming for our city. In fact there isn't a single city listed on the 6 page list for Mississippi is located in this county.

Going through the list I notice something rather striking. The only city receiving funds that is located in any of the three coastal counties is Biloxi.

Beyond that, Hattiesburg is the closest you get to the coast.

The bulk of the money appears to be divided among Jackson, Yazoo City, Meridian, and Natchez. All them mid-state towns.

It looks like there will be lots of road construction going on in the areas in and around the state capitol.

Natchez has some rather interesting requests...none of which will stimulate the economy. Restoration of dilapidated neighborhoods and of course the now somewhat famous request for funds for the Natchez trace. Typical for that area I may add...

You see, Natchez is located in a pretty "blue" part of the state. Never let "free money" pass your way without grabbing a sizable chunk mentality is alive and well in that area.

[Sun]

He's actually saying he won't tax you now for those things because he's asking for some of the stimulus instead?

:rolleyes:

Tell him in two years time, when the money runs out he will HAVE to tax you for those things anyway... cause the state will be so far in debt there is now way you can get out without raising taxes.

Good points itsrea.

I hope we don't have tent cities in NYS like they do in CA because of folks losing their jobs. It's too cold up here to live in a tent.:frown:

[Sun]

I wonder if there is a correlation between the allocation of money and the percentage who voted for Obama?

Thought-provoking question, and welcome to the forum!

[arubicus]

Nebraska $380,458,530. All in 2 cities. Lincoln and Omaha. Nothing for any other city yet. Yes the most liberal cities. The two of the 4 counties that leaned Obama. Just poking fun there. Those will probably consume the most or consume first. They are highly populated and have much more projects that can be done...so that is logical.

There was word that my town to receive funds to clean up the higher than normal uranium levels in our water by building new water fields. But later that was retracted mainly because it isn't shovel ready and isn't considered a priority - It is dead last in priority - Also there is alot of red tape from the feds to go through to get the funding. At least that is what was said. It would cost about 24 mil. I do know that a town near by will more than likely get funding for new water fields due to very high nitrate levels. Not confirmed yet or on the list. But those nitrate levels are excessive and needs to be taken care of before us. That is for sure.

Take a look at some of the projects that are shovel ready.

http://www.stimuluswatch.org/project/by_state/NE&per_page=

[itsrea]

Hi there rea.

Not a dime of the stimulus money is coming for our city. In fact there isn't a single city listed on the 6 page list for Mississippi is located in this county.

Going through the list I notice something rather striking. The only city receiving funds that is located in any of the three coastal counties is Biloxi.

Beyond that, Hattiesburg is the closest you get to the coast.

The bulk of the money appears to be divided among Jackson, Yazoo City, Meridian, and Natchez. All them mid-state towns.

It looks like there will be lots of road construction going on in the areas in and around the state capitol.

Natchez has some rather interesting requests...none of which will stimulate the economy. Restoration of dilapidated neighborhoods and of course the now somewhat famous request for funds for the Natchez trace. Typical for that area I may add...

You see, Natchez is located in a pretty "blue" part of the state. Never let "free money" pass your way without grabbing a sizable chunk mentality is alive and well in that area.Hi Bella!

Amazing, isn't it, that the coastal cities, the ones that received all the damage, haven't submitted requests for money yet, when they are the ones that received all the hurricane damage..

Makes you kinda proud, doesn't it Bella? that your neighbors are STILL proving to be as hardy and self-sufficient as they were in the days, weeks, and months following the catastrophies?

[itsrea]

Good points itsrea.

I hope we don't have tent cities in NYS like they do in CA because of folks losing their jobs. It's too cold up here to live in a tent.:frown:I saw the tent city that is supposed to be in Sacramento on TV two nights ago... I know Sac pretty well and can't for the life of me figure where there is a empty lot(s) that size where the city could have been set up, so I think it's probably on the outskirts of town.

And while Sac doesn't get snow except as the occasional 'treat', the winters ARE pretty cold, wet, and windy. Without the limited protection from wind and rain that the buildings in town would provide, I can't imagine how miserable it would be on the outskirts of town.

But I know what you mean... TV had a article about the shelters having to consider closing down because people can't afford to to contribute anymore and I've worried about the homeless in Seattle, Tacoma, etc since they've been hit by ice, snow, freezing rain and freezing fog so much this year.

[itsrea]

I wonder if there is a correlation between the allocation of money and the percentage who voted for Obama?Hello and welcome to the forum.

There actually was some internet gossip during the writing of the so-called stimulus bill and the following attempts to get it signed that was to the effect that the money would go to those people/states who were on board signing it from the beginning, but while I think Pelosi could be just that spiteful and stupid, I don't think Obama's handlers are...

IMO the money will go to whoever asks for it... but according to SC's Governor 75% of what is being given out has mandates on it so the States do NOT get to decide where it can best be used.

In other words a handful of people, most or all of them from one side of the aisle, will be deciding where the money is to be spent.

And it is just ANOTHER example of how willing this Administration is to step ALL OVER State's Rights.

[itsrea]

Nebraska $380,458,530. All in 2 cities. Lincoln and Omaha. Nothing for any other city yet. Yes the most liberal cities. The two of the 4 counties that leaned Obama. Just poking fun there. Those will probably consume the most or consume first. They are highly populated and have much more projects that can be done...so that is logical.

There was word that my town to receive funds to clean up the higher than normal uranium levels in our water by building new water fields. But later that was retracted mainly because it isn't shovel ready and isn't considered a priority - It is dead last in priority - Also there is alot of red tape from the feds to go through to get the funding. At least that is what was said. It would cost about 24 mil. I do know that a town near by will more than likely get funding for new water fields due to very high nitrate levels. Not confirmed yet or on the list. But those nitrate levels are excessive and needs to be taken care of before us. That is for sure.

Take a look at some of the projects that are shovel ready.

http://www.stimuluswatch.org/project/by_state/NE&per_page=

I liked the remodel of the Community Room and Kitchen at the Mahoney Manor in Lincoln.. going to cost $50,000 and will employ 150 people? What's the minimum wage in Neb?

And my other favorite was the solar powered water fountains that will employ 0.2 people...

Which leads to the VERY important question of how much of this work is going to be done by exisiting crews, and/or will overlap by using employees from exisiting crews?

[timjy]

Has anyone heard about the contractor at these shovel ready jobs must pay union scale wages for workers union or not.Also this money must be paid back to the state or fed?.My local water district wanted to put in 10,000 feet of pipe in town .They were going to use obama bucks.I heard around town that they refused because they would have to pay union scale and pay the money back.Anyone heard anything like this.

[SweetTalkin'Woman]

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[bella-day]

I liked the remodel of the Community Room and Kitchen at the Mahoney Manor in Lincoln.. going to cost $50,000 and will employ 150 people? What's the minimum wage in Neb?

And my other favorite was the solar powered water fountains that will employ 0.2 people...

Which leads to the VERY important question of how much of this work is going to be done by exisiting crews, and/or will overlap by using employees from exisiting crews?


Let's hope that particular job will be done by an existing employee.

They are going to have a tough time finding 1/5th of a person that could even come close to be qualified for the job.:D

[itsrea]

Has anyone heard about the contractor at these shovel ready jobs must pay union scale wages for workers union or not.Also this money must be paid back to the state or fed?.My local water district wanted to put in 10,000 feet of pipe in town .They were going to use obama bucks.I heard around town that they refused because they would have to pay union scale and pay the money back.Anyone heard anything like this.Gossip is rife.. but what I heard was that he signed something two days ago that says all contractors must be union.

That means the lowest bid and the most qualified may not even be considered. It's not going to be may the best man/woman win. It's going to mean:

Our tax dollar used for union dues.

Our tax dollars used to support the union's high paid CEO's/mamagement teams.

And the folks who think the bailouts and the so-called stimulus were necessary just agreed to Obama using our tax dollars to pay back the entities that supported his campaign.

Obamabucks is the accurate language.

[itsrea]

Let's hope that particular job will be done by an existing employee.

They are going to have a tough time finding 1/5th of a person that could even come close to be qualified for the job.:DLOL Yes... we were thinking the same thing...

Even IF whole communities ARE going to benefit, is this not just the most one-sided, one-party use of money that you have EVER seen? That the FEDS are going to tell the states how 75% of that money is to be spent?

[ChaosControl]

So my city doesn't get any of the pork money, good.

[itsrea]

So my city doesn't get any of the pork money, good.That's how I feel too Chaos.

[itsrea]

Anyone from California go through your states projects yet? Did you see if you're actually going to get the Los Angeles railroad to Las Vegas?

I was just thinking about that.. of all the places in these United States that REALLY needs help it would be the inner city.

Can any of you from California tell if any of this money is going there?

[spearmaster]

Stimulus Watch will let you check to see how much of the Stimulus Package your state has applied for so far - just click on the link:

Find projects by state or territory (http://www.stimuluswatch.org/project/by_state)


Now, what I like about this site is you can vote on whether you think the projects for any given city is worthy of the tax dollars or not. You can even comment on the projects. The site lists the types of projects, the number of jobs they project will be provided, and the cost of each project.

For instance one person says of the $6,371,250 that Tonasket, Washington is getting:

:))

So far (not all the cities that plan to apply have their proposals in yet) my state of Washington has applied for $1,713,748,676.

Washington State cities listed so far are:

Auburn • Bellevue • Bremerton • Brewster • Bridgeport • Cle Elum • Colville • Creston • Edmonds • Everett • Fife • Kettle Falls • Kirkland • Lakewood • Leavenworth • Longview • Marcus • Mattawa • Moses Lake • Northport • Okanogan • Pacific • Redmond • Renton • Riverside • Seattle • Snoqualmie • Spokane • Sumner • Tacoma • Tonasket • Vancouver • Wenatchee • Wilbur • Winthrop • Yakima • Yarrow Point

I've been doing some checking..

The city of Auburn, Washington had a little over 40,000 people last census and it's getting $136,553,318. So Far.

The city of Yarrow Point had a population of 1,080 people at the last census, and ranks #4 in affluence in the state. It's getting $2,900,000. Part of that is going for a Public Sports Court at a cost of $100,000.00.

My town probably will not get any money because we are not incorporated and do not have a city council to put in a bid for us.. Maybe the local business people could get together, but I don't know.

I'd imagine most of the towns that were affected by the flooding of the Cowlitz River on highway 12 are in the same shape.

Hey! Why isn't Roy,WA on the list! :D

I see my state of Ohio is 2nd behind Florida for biggest piece of the porkulus pie.

[spearmaster]

I wonder if there is a correlation between the allocation of money and the percentage who voted for Obama?

I would be willing to make bets he's going to take care of his blue areas first and they will probably the most. My area was completely red and therefore we are not on the list. Which this suits me just fine.

[darknessesedge]

In my State of NY, Gov. Paterson wanted nuisance taxes on haircuts, soda with sugar, recreation like bowling, golf, etc.. He claims we won't now have those because of the stimulus. Big deal, I say. Now we, and children who haven't even been born yet will have this HUGE FEDERAL debt to pay for.

there is no paying it back..
we will just auction off parts of our country to those we owe.

[itsrea]

Hey! Why isn't Roy,WA on the list! :D

I see my state of Ohio is 2nd behind Florida for biggest piece of the porkulus pie.LOL I just looked it up - Roy is about 0.3 miles square and has a total of 260 people last concensus..

:)

[spearmaster]

LOL I just looked it up - Roy is about 0.3 miles square and has a total of 260 people last concensus..

:)

LOL I didn't even know it was that big, of course I haven't been to WA since '03. :)

[spearmaster]

So my city doesn't get any of the pork money, good.

Yeah I was relieved to see that my town wasn't on the list as well. We stayed red during the election so we'll stimulate our own economy. :D

[itsrea]

LOL Las Vegas has asked for $375,000,000.00 for a performing Arts Center.. Rick says well, Sin City needs some culture honey...



.......course (he says), they'll probably all be performing nekkid.

:eek:

I love this post left by someone:

$375,000,000. Hasn't Las Vegas taken enough of our money?

I know JUST how she feels! lol

[itsrea]

Look at this one folks... I'm (living clear up here in Washingtons state) going to be paying so that Las Vegas can give rebates for people who build "green"

:rolleyes:

Rebates for Green Building Program (http://www.stimuluswatch.org/project/view/8894)

[itsrea]

Yeah I was relieved to see that my town wasn't on the list as well. We stayed red during the election so we'll stimulate our own economy. :DIf Obama doesn't find out and put a kabosh to it...

I'm beginning to feel like I'm living in a realllllly baaaaad science fiction movie.

[Rhonda]

This is very weird..my city (Cleveland) does not show up :eek:

That is shocking to me

But the Suburbs..is a different story, ..wow, I am speechless

[darknessesedge]

This is very weird..my city (Cleveland) does not show up :eek:

That is shocking to me

if your city isnt on the list..obama sold it to the chinese.

[itsrea]

there is no paying it back..
we will just auction off parts of our country to those we owe.Thank you for stopping by Dark... how is your state doing in regards to asking for their 'share'?

[Rhonda]

if your city isnt on the list..obama sold it to the chinese.

You mean Akron will own Cleveland, that crap city got $1,002,390,800

Anyone ever been to Akron? :rolleyes:

[itsrea]

This is very weird..my city (Cleveland) does not show up :eek:

That is shocking to me

But the Suburbs..is a different story, ..wow, I am speechlessThanks for stopping in Rhonda.. I don't know if there is a time limit on getting the requests in.. Cleveland has some problems if I remember right.. if they do put in I hope they are for worthy projects.

:)

[itsrea]

if your city isnt on the list..obama sold it to the chinese.I didn't know whether to laugh or to cry when I read this...

[darknessesedge]

Thank you for stopping by Dark... how is your state doing in regards to asking for their 'share'?

we are part of china now..
i get to pull the rickshaw for a living now.

florida?
I think 250+ mill
gov crist..the mod gop...is taking the $$$$.
we should not take it..
crist is a joke..
we need a new gov in this state.
if he runs again for gov..or for senator..im not voting for him

[itsrea]

We're meeting friends.. so will be gone all evening - you all have a GREAT evening, I'll be back later.

Please keep the thread going.. the more people realize the useless things that this money is being spent on the more we maybe have a chance of setting some thinking straight.

:)

CUL everyone.

[Rhonda]

Thanks for stopping in Rhonda.. I don't know if there is a time limit on getting the requests in.. Cleveland has some problems if I remember right.. if they do put in I hope they are for worthy projects.

:)

We are not worthy

Great link rea! Thanks for posting it..this thread should be a sticky...you should make the request in the mod forum

Nevermind

I made the request

http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?t=1365991

[gdoane]

If they're doing all of these roadway expansions and railways, what's going to happen to the people with houses in the way who are upside-down on their mortgages?

If a guy owes $200,000 on his house, the Feds come along and give him $100,000 fair market value because of the housing market slump, and he's $100,000 in the hole and noplace to live!

I can see this stimulus money causing a lot of innocent people grief.

[itsrea]

we are part of china now..
i get to pull the rickshaw for a living now.

florida?
I think 250+ mill
gov crist..the mod gop...is taking the $$$$.
we should not take it..
crist is a joke..
we need a new gov in this state.
if he runs again for gov..or for senator..im not voting for himIt was interesting what the Governor of SC said last night.. I fought the fight and lost, now my state has voted to take some money... I want to pay down the debt we already have and then use current money for I can't cause they won't let us have control of the money...

Seems to me that if government is going to do the hiring they'd be able to do MORE if they could pay down debts and THEN start projects??

[itsrea]

If they're doing all of these roadway expansions and railways, what's going to happen to the people with houses in the way who are upside-down on their mortgages?

If a guy owes $200,000 on his house, the Feds come along and give him $100,000 fair market value because of the housing market slump, and he's $100,000 in the hole and noplace to live!

I can see this stimulus money causing a lot of innocent people grief.Hi Gene.. I saw your name down there... wondered how your state is doing.

And I agree with you on the small guy being hurt, but I think it's going to be even wider hurt cause with these contracts only going to union people that small contractor is going to have to do without any of the contracts, meaning the poorer construction worker will not be getting any jobs.

[gdoane]

Hi Gene.. I saw your name down there... wondered how your state is doing.

We got a passel of projects, I think a lot in part because ex-Arizona governor Napolitano is in the Obama's admin. I did notice that the only State besides California with over a thousand projects seemed to be Obama's home State of Illinois.

And I agree with you on the small guy being hurt, but I think it's going to be even wider hurt cause with these contracts only going to union people that small contractor is going to have to do without any of the contracts, meaning the poorer construction worker will not be getting any jobs.

Worse, the kind of jobs created are temporary so these workers are just working themselves out of a job. Once the bridge is built, what happens to all the construction crews when there's no more money and no more work? These are not sustainable employment jobs.

[rhet 2]

My town escaped corruption so far.

But Dallas becomes the sewage center of the state -- as corrupt and morally degraded as Chicago at the heighth of the Daily Crimes against Humanity.

Email this link to everybody you can think of and scream insults at the ANIMALS taking this bribe money -- curse them till their eyes cross and make them KNOW they are worth less to humanity than a new plaque would be.

[jwil59]

It looks like my city is getting roughly 97 million. I have just e-mailed my city councilman and mayor and asked them why. They have money alloted for 20 more 40 seat public transport buses for a city of about 55,000 people. They must think we are stupid. I am calling ******** on just about every dollar fo this. There are a couple road projects that we can use but most of it is garbage

Thanks for posting this thread, I'm on it like a cheap suit :lol:

[Rhonda]

Laurel, MS

Doorbells
$99,600.00 - 2 jobs


I would install doorbells for them for half the cost ... *sigh*

[jwil59]

We got a passel of projects, I think a lot in part because ex-Arizona governor Napolitano is in the Obama's admin. I did notice that the only State besides California with over a thousand projects seemed to be Obama's home State of Illinois.



Worse, the kind of jobs created are temporary so these workers are just working themselves out of a job. Once the bridge is built, what happens to all the construction crews when there's no more money and no more work? These are not sustainable employment jobs.

My city has 30 jobs alloted for 20 public transport buses that we don't need. They have a few busues now but nobody rides them. I'm callin ********

[theDoctorIsIn]

...Apparently there's nothing going to NYC. Plenty going NYS, but nothing to the city.

[Rhonda]

Dallas, TX

Latino Cultural Center - Phase II design and construction
$18,000,000.00 - 180 jobs - Energy Program


Will the 180 jobs go to American citizens? :think:

Filed under energy???

[JDGreen]

Stimulus Watch will let you check to see how much of the Stimulus Package your state has applied for so far - just click on the link:

Find projects by state or territory (http://www.stimuluswatch.org/project/by_state)


Now, what I like about this site is you can vote on whether you think the projects for any given city is worthy of the tax dollars or not. You can even comment on the projects. The site lists the types of projects, the number of jobs they project will be provided, and the cost of each project.

For instance one person says of the $6,371,250 that Tonasket, Washington is getting:

:))

So far (not all the cities that plan to apply have their proposals in yet) my state of Washington has applied for $1,713,748,676.

Washington State cities listed so far are:

Auburn • Bellevue • Bremerton • Brewster • Bridgeport • Cle Elum • Colville • Creston • Edmonds • Everett • Fife • Kettle Falls • Kirkland • Lakewood • Leavenworth • Longview • Marcus • Mattawa • Moses Lake • Northport • Okanogan • Pacific • Redmond • Renton • Riverside • Seattle • Snoqualmie • Spokane • Sumner • Tacoma • Tonasket • Vancouver • Wenatchee • Wilbur • Winthrop • Yakima • Yarrow Point

I've been doing some checking..

The city of Auburn, Washington had a little over 40,000 people last census and it's getting $136,553,318. So Far.

The city of Yarrow Point had a population of 1,080 people at the last census, and ranks #4 in affluence in the state. It's getting $2,900,000. Part of that is going for a Public Sports Court at a cost of $100,000.00.

My town probably will not get any money because we are not incorporated and do not have a city council to put in a bid for us.. Maybe the local business people could get together, but I don't know.

I'd imagine most of the towns that were affected by the flooding of the Cowlitz River on highway 12 are in the same shape.

WOW!! Over $6 million for TONASKET?? My best friend is from there and it's not much more than a wide spot in the road and a post office... Well, no, there IS a gas station at the junction.. I'm in Moses Lake, WA which is on the list...

[darknessesedge]

Laurel, MS

Doorbells
$99,600.00 - 2 jobs


I would install doorbells for them for half the cost ... *sigh*

ding dong ding dong obama calling!

[spearmaster]

If Obama doesn't find out and put a kabosh to it...

I'm beginning to feel like I'm living in a realllllly baaaaad science fiction movie.

Yeah really, he visited here but didn't get as of a turnout as Sarah Palin got when she stopped. It's starting to feel like Groundhog Day lol. We wake up and it's just the same as the day before, except for the few suprises he throws out there from time to time.

[jwil59]

ding dong ding dong obama calling!

:))

Better her doorbell than mine I guess :lol:

[2Parties1GlobalistGoal]

14 projects for over $14 million. It's a city less than 40,000 people.

[spearmaster]

This is very weird..my city (Cleveland) does not show up :eek:

That is shocking to me

But the Suburbs..is a different story, ..wow, I am speechless

Wow! I'm shocked too. I figured Cleveland would get a pig cut of the porkulus pie just like Columbus and Cincy is getting.

[Rhonda]

ding dong ding dong obama calling!

I wish Obama would come to my door :neutral:

[jwil59]

14 projects for over $14 million. It's a city less than 40,000 people.

We have about 55,000 people and 97 million dollars.

Ole Jeff is gonna hold them accountable for this though, that process has already started

[Rhonda]

Wow! I'm shocked too. I figured Cleveland would get a pig cut of the porkulus pie just like Columbus and Cincy is getting.

Check out Akron...I hope it makes it a city, you can actually visit for a minute without getting shot mugged or raped

[darknessesedge]

Wow! I'm shocked too. I figured Cleveland would get a pig cut of the porkulus pie just like Columbus and Cincy is getting.

how about $200 mill for the rock and roll hall of fame in stimuli II?
the son of stimuli..

[LouC]

...I did notice that the only State besides California with over a thousand projects seemed to be Obama's home State of Illinois...

From that OP website list there are 23 Illinois counties represented.

From that website list there is only one Illinois county in the lower 2/3rds of the state that is slated for projects.

And there are only two cities in that county slated to get funds splitting less than $19 million. (One of those projects is to enhance light rail service into St Louis Missouri.)

All but 1 of the 20 up state counties getting the bulk of the funds on the list are clustered around Chicago or the greater Chicago area.

Cook County is on that list for over $700 million dollars.

[LouC]

Be aware that the OP list is very old and not at all representative of today's current wish lists.

[Rhonda]

Be aware that the OP list is very old and not at all representative of today's current wish lists.

The site says it is updated every 10 minutes though

[Ballygrl]

Oh wow! surprise surprise, not 1 project in my county or surrounding counties and all the money being used are in the cities that overwhelmingly vote Democrat!

[Rhonda]

how about $200 mill for the rock and roll hall of fame in stimuli II?
the son of stimuli..

That is disgusting..do you have a link?

I have been searching and am not able to find anything for Cleveland Ohio

[The Debater]

Boy was I glad to see that my county wasn't on the list. Sarasota didn't make it either, and with an interstate road-widening project in the planning stages I was kind of surprised.

I'll sleep a little better knowing that my area hasn't sold out.

[itsrea]

Be aware that the OP list is very old and not at all representative of today's current wish lists.yes, my list is only on Washington state, I didn't even attempt to put any other state's projects in the OP, and I won't be updating on post#1... but if I catch where another city has added a request for funds, I'll post it then in a new post.

If your browser is not showing updates at the linked site maybe try hitting renew a couple of times?

[itsrea]

We got a passel of projects, I think a lot in part because ex-Arizona governor Napolitano is in the Obama's admin. I did notice that the only State besides California with over a thousand projects seemed to be Obama's home State of Illinois.



Worse, the kind of jobs created are temporary so these workers are just working themselves out of a job. Once the bridge is built, what happens to all the construction crews when there's no more money and no more work? These are not sustainable employment jobs.Yes, I noticed that the blue states have more money overall.. It's my understanding that my state already had their request in when the bill was signed.. Gregorie was on the news that night or the next announcing how much we'd get and that it STILL wasn't going to be enough to hire back those peace officers that are being laid off, nor to reopen the schools she's closed.

[itsrea]

Laurel, MS

Doorbells
$99,600.00 - 2 jobs


I would install doorbells for them for half the cost ... *sigh*Are you union?

[itsrea]

WOW!! Over $6 million for TONASKET?? My best friend is from there and it's not much more than a wide spot in the road and a post office... Well, no, there IS a gas station at the junction.. I'm in Moses Lake, WA which is on the list...I saw Moses Lake is... is that Cascades Water & Sewage expansion project for existing homes or are they using the money so more construction can be done?




You should stop by for coffee if you and your spouse ever get up this way.. Rick and I love talking politics over coffee as we watch the elk out back :)

[Rhonda]

Are you union?

Nope, independent ;)

[itsrea]

It looks like my city is getting roughly 97 million. I have just e-mailed my city councilman and mayor and asked them why. They have money alloted for 20 more 40 seat public transport buses for a city of about 55,000 people. They must think we are stupid. I am calling ******** on just about every dollar fo this. There are a couple road projects that we can use but most of it is garbage

Thanks for posting this thread, I'm on it like a cheap suit :lol:Great idea about emailing City Council members Jeff!

[LouC]

The site says it is updated every 10 minutes though

Below are the "shovel-ready" projects the mayors of this state submitted in the 2008 U.S. Conference of Mayors report.

That is the beginning of the message you get at each states seperate site.

The Mayors lists aren't being updated every 10 minutes, but the Votes by visitors on the importance of listed projects and their comments in the comments section are.

[Rhonda]

That is the beginning of the message you get at each states seperate site.

The Mayors lists aren't being updated every 10 minutes, but the Votes by visitors on the importance of listed projects and their comments in the comments section are.

Oh..silly me..thanks Lou

[LouC]

Oh..silly me..thanks Lou

No problem.

[itsrea]

Nope, independent ;)We're out of luck then.... unless you want to join - Obama isn't allowing independent contractors to bid on the jobs unless they hire union.

[itsrea]

No problem.I wonder how communities without mayors are getting their requests considered.

[LouC]

I wonder how communities without mayors are getting their requests considered.

By any person(s) duly entrusted with administrative duties for that community I would imagine.

[Molliegoch]

LOL I just looked it up - Roy is about 0.3 miles square and has a total of 260 people last concensus..

:)Do not speed through any of that.3 miles, either! Just a word to the wise. The Tacoma Dome is going to get new seats. Maybe Sean will host a freedom concert there? I guess if I was a seat upholsterer, I'd put in for the job.

[gdoane]

It seems to me that these construction jobs aren't a good fit for the jobs being lost. When retailers like Mervyn's and Linen's and Things go out of business, what good is a construction job to those laid off employees? You can't go from stocking shelves to building a bridge.

Sure, the jobs might get filled but with what kind of competence? Construction equipment is stone cold dangerous in the hands of people who don't know what they're doing. How long will the bridges stand when they were built by cashiers and stockboys?

I'm afraid we're going to be paying for incompetence, jobs with grotesque cost overruns to the point that they'll sit incompleted for years awaiting more funding, buildings and bridges falling apart at the seams too unsafe to use, and a false economy built like a house of cards that will tumble with the slightest breath.

Maybe the Feds can magic up all this shovel-ready makework but they can't magic up the people with the job skills to do things right.

[LouC]

That is disgusting..do you have a link?

I have been searching and am not able to find anything for Cleveland Ohio

Hope this helps.

I don't have Excel but I partially downloaded the .pdf version and it looks as though the projects are listed by County.

Ohio Recovery Site LINK (http://www.recovery.ohio.gov/more/)

Current Submissions List

http://www.recovery.ohio.gov/docs/03_13_09_Submitted_Requests.xls

Microsoft Excel, 20MB | Last updated on Mar 13, 2009

Abbreviated Submissions List

http://www.recovery.ohio.gov/docs/03_10_09_Submitted_Requests.pdf

Adobe PDF, 13MB | Last updated on Mar 10, 2009

Current Submissions List

The top link is to a sortable, searchable excel spreadsheet of all requests submitted through this website.

The spreadsheet will be updated one or more times each week and will show the date on which it was last updated.

The spreadsheet does not contain submissions voluntarily withdrawn by the individual who submitted.

An abbreviated static .pdf version of the spreadsheet is also available for those who may not have access to the software necessary to read the spreadsheet.

This list contains all projects submitted to this website.

Projects have been submitted by state and local governmental units and by various other private and non-profit entities.

The fact that a project has been submitted to the website by an entity and appears on this list of requests – including projects submitted by state entities – in no way means that the project is slated to receive funding.

Voluntarily withdrawn submissions are not included on the website.

No funding decisions have been made regarding the use of state managed formula federal stimulus funds.

[rhet 2]

It seems to me that these construction jobs aren't a good fit for the jobs being lost. When retailers like Mervyn's and Linen's and Things go out of business, what good is a construction job to those laid off employees? You can't go from stocking shelves to building a bridge.

Sure, the jobs might get filled but with what kind of competence? Construction equipment is stone cold dangerous in the hands of people who don't know what they're doing. How long will the bridges stand when they were built by cashiers and stockboys?

I'm afraid we're going to be paying for incompetence, jobs with grotesque cost overruns to the point that they'll sit incompleted for years awaiting more funding, buildings and bridges falling apart at the seams too unsafe to use, and a false economy built like a house of cards that will tumble with the slightest breath.

Maybe the Feds can magic up all this shovel-ready makework but they can't magic up the people with the job skills to do things right.

They'll get filled all right -- by illegals out of Mexico who don't pay taxes because they're never carried on the company payroll.

And they still won't be able to pay the rent and buy groceries -- because they'll be working at far less than required to support their families.

[angelicmadrigal]

Oh jeez, in the town where I grew up they're allocating

$8,000,000 to a stadium, and a measely $500,000 for crime prevention. Seems to me the priorities are a little off. I mean a realize the stadium earns some revnue, BUT...I would think keeping crime down would make the city more attractive to prospective residents and bussinesses.

[rhet 2]

Oh jeez, in the town where I grew up they're allocating

$8,000,000 to a stadium, and a measely $500,000 for crime prevention. Seems to me the priorities are a little off. I mean a realize the stadium earns some revnue, BUT...I would think keeping crime down would make the city more attractive to prospective residents and bussinesses.

Gotta have your Colosseum and Theaters, you know.

Every Roman city had one.

Let the Games Begin.

All hail, Imperatus Obaminatus! We who are about to die salute you!

Precisely right out of Augustus Caesar's own play book, the entire Porkulus Scam of Vulgares for the enrichment and empowerment of the Roman SENATORIAL ELITE.

I've been reviewing the transmogrification of the Roman REPUBLIC into the Roman EMPIRE during the 1st century BC -- and damn the parallels are too scary for words.

Precisely and exactly the same socio-cultural mores, the same socio-economic policies, the same socio-political tactics that Augustus Caesar used to corrupt the Roman Senate and throw away Roman Republican socio-cultural values in exchange for total bestialization of the upper classes, total bestialization and impoverishment of the middle/mercantile classes, and total bestialization of the poor, turning them into raving mobs always ready to riot and burn and destroy when Augustus spoke the necessary mob rabble-rousing Call to Arms against those who dared resist his ABSOLUTE POWER.

[gdoane]

They'll get filled all right -- by illegals out of Mexico who don't pay taxes because they're never carried on the company payroll.

And they still won't be able to pay the rent and buy groceries -- because they'll be working at far less than required to support their families.

I figure it'll be just like the Katrina rebuilding fiasco where it was joked that FEMA stood for "Find Every Mexican Available". Quickly drawn contracts got subcontracted and farmed out beyond any accountability whatsoever and construction workers were hired on the books, off the books, between the pages and not even paid regularly.

The vast majority of stimulus spending is in California, a border state. Of course illegal aliens are going to come a-running for the easy construction jobs. Temporary and seasonal labor is right up their alley. Even if the contractors are under the gun, they'll just use subcontractors and pass the buck to benefit from the tax savings and hiring hassles that illegal alien workers offer.

[rhet 2]

I figure it'll be just like the Katrina rebuilding fiasco where it was joked that FEMA stood for "Find Every Mexican Available". Quickly drawn contracts got subcontracted and farmed out beyond any accountability whatsoever and construction workers were hired on the books, off the books, between the pages and not even paid regularly.

The vast majority of stimulus spending is in California, a border state. Of course illegal aliens are going to come a-running for the easy construction jobs. Temporary and seasonal labor is right up their alley. Even if the contractors are under the gun, they'll just use subcontractors and pass the buck to benefit from the tax savings and hiring hassles that illegal alien workers offer.

And the federal and state bureaucratic servants of Democrat Dysfunctionalism will do all in their power to obstruct justice and ensure injustice, just like fed bureauCAT employees always do.

Gotta dot all those i's and cross all those t's when federal paperwork Boondoggling is the Name of the Game.

To hell with common sense and responsibility.

Keep all those trailers sitting on Texas parking lots because approval to move the things to hurting citizens hasn't yet come down the Paperwork Boondoggle Aisle of Dysfunctional Anti-Pragmatism.

LAWS RESTRICT INDIVIDUAL PROBLEM SOLVING at the implementation level. They NEVER foster practical problem solving at the one-on-one individual level where individualized INNOVATION is required.

Because laws, by their nature, BLOCK innovation and individual creative problem solving.

The entire purpose of any and all laws is to DISABLE, not to ENABLE.

And these laws, instead of DISABLING violent criminals DISABLE the defense of American citizens.

One of the most serious ideological flaws in the Leftwit mantra: they persist in thinking of government as an ENABLER, when the only possible function of government is to be a DISABLER. And the only real issue is who government DISABLES, which automatically ENABLES those who escape government RESTRICTIONS.

Washington is addicted to RESTRICTING honest citizens and in the process ensuring the ENABLEMENT of criminality.

[utmom]

I haven't read all this thread (it is now 9 pages) however, this is REQUESTED funds, not approved funds. My city of Herriman, Utah has 42 million requested. They are for streets and sewer and soil decantamination and a new city hall. We will receive NO money for any of these projects. The voting districts in by town voted something like 80%+ for McCain. Also this is their wish list. Things that need to be done over the next few years if not sooner but I doubt for a minute that our city council actually expects any of them to be completed with stimulus money.

As for our state - we have recieved/taken some money because they were able to NOT cut the education budget by 16% this year - only 5%. But like the lawmakers said - this is a one year piggy bank and the cuts will have to happen next year if the economy doesn't turn around.

[rhet 2]

I haven't read all this thread (it is now 9 pages) however, this is REQUESTED funds, not approved funds. My city of Herriman, Utah has 42 million requested. They are for streets and sewer and soil decantamination and a new city hall. We will receive NO money for any of these projects. The voting districts in by town voted something like 80%+ for McCain. Also this is their wish list. Things that need to be done over the next few years if not sooner but I doubt for a minute that our city council actually expects any of them to be completed with stimulus money.

As for our state - we have recieved/taken some money because they were able to NOT cut the education budget by 16% this year - only 5%. But like the lawmakers said - this is a one year piggy bank and the cuts will have to happen next year if the economy doesn't turn around.

Methinks you have, indeed, hit on the secret of this BRIBE GAME.

If it's pro-Democrat bestiality, it gets the money.

If it's anti-Democrat bestiality, it starves.

[itsrea]

Oh jeez, in the town where I grew up they're allocating

$8,000,000 to a stadium, and a measely $500,000 for crime prevention. Seems to me the priorities are a little off. I mean a realize the stadium earns some revnue, BUT...I would think keeping crime down would make the city more attractive to prospective residents and bussinesses.I know how you feel... our governor has been o the TV for months now saying that we have to cut back on law enforcement, well baby clinics, and schools - sherrif's have been on the news saying these cut back means we are not going to be responding to domestic violence call, etc..

And Seattle did close down three schools last month.. but here we are spending $12,000,000 on a community center and a historic post office restoration in Auburn (proposed dollars are: $1,713,748,676 for Auburn, so far submitted projects are: $136,553,318, a city of about 40,000 people last census)and , so there is a large gathering place for tourists instead of reopening a school or rehiring a police officer so they can begin answering domestic violence calls again.

It just does not make any sense.

[itsrea]

Methinks you have, indeed, hit on the secret of this BRIBE GAME.

If it's pro-Democrat bestiality, it gets the money.

If it's anti-Democrat bestiality, it starves.Rick told me yesterday Fox News was interviewing some experts and they admitted that yes, one of the first thing the President DOES is pay back the favors advanced to him during the campaign.

Well, if these last bills are any indication, Obama accepted some hellocious big favors, and Pelosi was one of those needing to be paid back with California proposing 1,971 projects, in the total of $23,194,447,831. (http://www.stimuluswatch.org/project/by_state/CA)

Which just goes towards the theory that there is no divide between the Speaker of the House and the President.. they are in accord on everything that is happening.

Just makes me sick.

[itsrea]

I had a uncle that lived in West Sacramento for 40 years (West Sacramento proposed projects come to $463,100,000 (http://www.stimuluswatch.org/project/by_city/West%20Sacramento/CA)) and the things THAT mayor put in for are all pretty good projects..

West Sac used to be a really, really, really nice residential area, but as people retired and moved away many of the homes became rentals and is a high crime area.. then when Clinton closed down two of the military bases a lot of unemployed ended up there living with relatives, which led to even more crime.

Too bad none of the projects are crime prevention related.

[itsrea]

Manhattan Beach, California (proposing $133,000,000 in projects (http://www.stimuluswatch.org/project/by_city/Manhattan%20Beach/CA)) is where my grandparents retired... it's bigger, more traffic then in those lazy, hazy days of summer in the 1950's and 1960's, but I was there about seven years ago and it is STILL pretty exclusive, pretty upper class.. I'd think that if they wanted $35,000,000 for a new library they could darn well raise the money themselves.

It's what the whole state of Washington has been doing the whole time we've lived here (for our Timberland Library system).

Edited to add: well, until the city of Kettle Falls, Washington proposed $12,688,000 - $1,100,000 of which would go towards a new library addition.

:(