Global warming 'will be worse than expected' warns Stern

[Matthewobamahater]

Global warming 'will be worse than expected' warns Stern

Economist says his 2006 groundbreaking report underestimated risk and accuses governments of not being ready for consequences of 6C temperature rise
(http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/mar/12/climate-change-scienceofclimatechange#history-byline)


Politicians have failed to take on board the severe consequences of failing to cut world carbon emissions, Nicholas Stern, the economist who warned the government of the high cost of climate change (http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/climate-change), said today.
Stern told a meeting of climate change scientists in Copenhagen that the effects of global warming would be worse than he predicted in his seminal 2006 report on the economics of the problem. He said policy-makers needed to think more about the likely impact of severe temperature rises of 6C or more.
Speaking after a keynote speech at the conference, Stern said: "Do the politicians understand just how difficult it could be? Just how devastating 4, 5, 6 degrees centigrade would be? I think not yet. Looking back, the Stern review underestimated the risks and underestimated the damage from inaction."
His remarks echo concerns by other scientists at the meeting. Privately, many climate experts and officials say that the European target of limiting world temperature rise to 2C above pre-industrial levels is no longer realistic.
Steven Sherwood, a climate researcher at Yale university, will tell the conference later today that warming of 4C or more this century looks "increasingly likely".
Bob Watson, a former head of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) and chief scientist at the environment department, has already warned that governments need to prepare for a 4C rise (http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2008/aug/06/climatechange.scienceofclimatechange).
The 2007 report of the IPCC said that average temperatures could rise by up to 6C this century if no action were taken to curb greenhouse gas emissions. Many scientists say this could be an underestimate, because world emissions have grown faster than expected.
According to the 2006 Stern report, a rise of 4C would put between seven million and 300 million more people at risk of coastal flooding each year, there would be a 30-50% reduction in water availability in southern Africa and the Mediterranean, agricultural yields would decline by 15%-35% in Africa, and 20%-50% of animal and plant species would face extinction. Yesterday, scientists announced at the conference that a 4C rise would lead to the loss of 85% of the Amazon rainforest. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/mar/11/amazon-global-warming-trees)
A 5C rise would mean that major cities such as New York, London and Tokyo would be threatened by a rise in sea levels and increases in ocean acidity would severely disrupt marine ecosystems and fisheries. An increase of more than 5C — equivalent to the amount of warming that occurred between the last ice age and today — is, according to the Stern report, "likely to lead to major disruption and large-scale movement of population". It said the effects would be "catastrophic" and "far outside human experience".


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What in the heck? 4-5c in the next 91 years? Is this guy freaking insane...Please someone give me some soild support for this before I start thinking that these people are pure nuts. Please god people that support this and want to put our economy into the run around show me now. I beg you on the left to show me. I want to know why you think that we are so messed up that we have to make these moves for. I just don't see it at all.

[Ming]

I don't care what the experts say! Rush Limbaugh says it's a hoax!

[Mortis]

I don't care what the experts say! Rush Limbaugh says it's a hoax!

Al Gore is making a crudload of money.

That's enough to prove to me that it's a hoax

[EnchantedFrog]

The guy is an economist who's now published a book to try and cash in on the GW hysteria. Nicholas Stern has about as much credibility as HOWARD Stern in my book.

[IndyBec]

I'm sorry, I can't help ya.

The desire to require a global temp cap is what lost my respect for the IPCC. They can rail on and on about the dangers of climate change and they can rail on and on about the immorality of CO2, but I won't be scammed into thinking that there is a legitimate reason to regulate CO2 as a pollutant.

CO2 or no CO2 we still have and will have climate change.

It's obvious the gears have to be switched from "global warming" to climate change" to preserve any shreds of credibility.

[tjvh]

Al Gore is making a crudload of money.

That's enough to prove to me that it's a hoax

Not only Gore, but the Businesses that sprang up around this Global Warming hoax are raking in cash at a level that makes the Y2K profiteers look like amateurs.

[SabercatPuck]

The sun, in a moment of great philathropy has decided to reduce its output to minimum for at least the next 11 years. As such solar cycle 24 has been called off, and global warming has been put on hold. NASA and NOAA have confirmed this in seperate releases.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/03/11/solar-cycle-24-has-ended-according-to-nasa/
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/03/02/cooler-heads-at-noaa-coming-around-to-natural-variability/

[Canadian Jane]

It's time for these people to give it up.

The global warming ponzi scheme has been exposed.

When you can simply transfer a lot of money to someone else to continue behaviors that they SAY will destroy the planet, and they applaud you for your good world citizenship - then there is something inherently wrong.

They'll never get a dime of my cash, if I can help it.

I recycle and I minimize my garbage and consumption - because I think that human beings are pigs as far as how we treat the planet, and I believe that our real problem is that our species is over-populated. So the least I can do is try and minimize the crap I leave behind.

But I don't believe that human beings can change the planet's climate - and I don't believe that sending money to Al Gore, David Suzuki, or any other envrio-freak (i.e. opportunist) will do ANYTHING good for the world.

[zantax]

The good news is, I saw polls recently that show skepticism is growing regarding AGW among republicans and independents, only the democrats are holding steady.

[REDINVT]

The good news is, I saw polls recently that show skepticism is growing regarding AGW among republicans and independents, only the democrats are holding steady.

My daughter's very very liberal teacher admitted one of our -20F January days, that she isn't too sure about Global Warming anymore.

Hah, what cracks me up is people who were screaming for GW legislation to help out our poor tourist industry (skiing) last year. Now we've got TONS of snow, but no customers thanks to the poopy economy. Now they're trying to get Gay marriage passed so we can boost the economy that way. It's funny these libs using the down economy to boost these agendas but none would jump to the rescue if it meant relaxing regulations and getting Gov't out of the way.

[Samm]

What in the heck? 4-5c in the next 91 years? Is this guy freaking insane...Please someone give me some soild support for this before I start thinking that these people are pure nuts. Please god people that support this and want to put our economy into the run around show me now. I beg you on the left to show me. I want to know why you think that we are so messed up that we have to make these moves for. I just don't see it at all.

Freaking Insanity is the Hallmark of the AlGorist Cult. But notice that he is not offering any evidence that the temperature will climb 4-6degrees C in 91 years; his predictions are based solely on the speculation of if it warms that much. Of course he tosses in that someone else, Steven Sherwood, has said it is "likely." But also, he offers no evidence that his predictions are anything more than his opinion; they are certainly not founded in science and they totally ignore the multitude of positive effects that a warmer world would have for humans.

You have to look very closely at the words that these people use: "if," "could," "might..." Those words are caveats that make everything that follows meaningless. For example, it is equally meaningless to say "If the the global temperature falls 5 degrees by the end of the century, live would be very difficult and billions of lives could be in jeopardy."

[clearcarbon]

Not only Gore, but the Businesses that sprang up around this Global Warming hoax are raking in cash at a level that makes the Y2K profiteers look like amateurs.

You have to give them credit for devising an imaginative
way of taxing the air that you breath (exhale).
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.
.

[HeadOnStraight]

I don't care what the experts say! Rush Limbaugh says it's a hoax!
The guy in the OP is an economist, this does makes him an "expert" on climate. Then again, al Gore is no scientist either, and did not even major in any science studies in college, and yet he runs around bloviating as if he were a climatology expert.

[nebcon]

The sun, in a moment of great philathropy has decided to reduce its output to minimum for at least the next 11 years. As such solar cycle 24 has been called off, and global warming has been put on hold. NASA and NOAA have confirmed this in seperate releases.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/03/11/solar-cycle-24-has-ended-according-to-nasa/
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/03/02/cooler-heads-at-noaa-coming-around-to-natural-variability/

Wow you mean to tell me that that big burning ball in the sky actually gives us our heat?

[CrusaderFrank]

I love when ManMade Global Warming Conferences get snowed out, even in Las Vegas

[B' en Natuf]

I don't care what the experts say! Rush Limbaugh says it's a hoax!I'll see your Rush Limbaufg and raise you an Algore.

The IPCC is a joke. 2000 economists and political scientists pretending to be climate experts.

[OIVORY]

I hate to be the guy on the outside looking in, but the economist is correct.

IF the temperature of the world increased by 6C (~10F) in less than 100 years it would almost certainly be a natural disaster of epic proportions.

I think we can all agree that the extra heat would move the optimal farming range drastically. Yes, sir, IF the temperature went up, the world will pay severely.

[ksdb]

I hate to be the guy on the outside looking in, but the economist is correct.

IF the temperature of the world increased by 6C (~10F) in less than 100 years it would almost certainly be a natural disaster of epic proportions.
Based on what??

I think we can all agree that the extra heat would move the optimal farming range drastically. Yes, sir, IF the temperature went up, the world will pay severely.
It would likely depend on where the higher temperatures are distributed.

[deportalllibs]

My daughter's very very liberal teacher admitted one of our -20F January days, that she isn't too sure about Global Warming anymore.

Pardon me while I pick msyelf up off the floor and wipe the blurted out coffee off my monitor.

[nebcon]

Lee Kington has mentioned this before, but what about the cost to the nation if we aren't prepared for a drastic cooling? That would be far worse.

[B' en Natuf]

I hate to be the guy on the outside looking in, but the economist is correct.

IF the temperature of the world increased by 6C (~10F) in less than 100 years it would almost certainly be a natural disaster of epic proportions.

I think we can all agree that the extra heat would move the optimal farming range drastically. Yes, sir, IF the temperature went up, the world will pay severely.No we can not agree on that.

If the temperature went up 6C the earth would be a warmer wetter place with much less cimate fluctuation. More water circulating means more arrible land, more stable temperatures means longer growing seasons. It would not be a crisis at all. It would be a miracle.

[SabercatPuck]

Wow you mean to tell me that that big burning ball in the sky actually gives us our heat?
I know, hard to believe huh. And this is retroactive, that is why we in Omaha only had to endure 4 whole hours of temps over 100 last year instead of the usual 3-6 weeks

[dmaddy1]

global warming is a huge hoax and BS scare by the Dems......sshame on Gore (what an idiot ).,,,,,,,,,,,,,ITS NOT REAL!!!

[F_Rat-46]

I hate to be the guy on the outside looking in, but the economist is correct.

IF the temperature of the world increased by 6C (~10F) in less than 100 years it would almost certainly be a natural disaster of epic proportions.

I think we can all agree that the extra heat would move the optimal farming range drastically. Yes, sir, IF the temperature went up, the world will pay severely.

I noticed you capitalized the word IF. IF the temp drops by 6C the world would be a lot cooler also.

[B' en Natuf]

I noticed you capitalized the word IF. IF the temp drops by 6C the world would be a lot cooler also.And then we would really have a problem.

[OIVORY]

I noticed you capitalized the word IF. IF the temp drops by 6C the world would be a lot cooler also.

Well duh.

IF the world gets hotter, things could go badly.

IF the world gets colder, things could go badly.

I just wanted to point out that this was an economist (STUDIES THE ECONOMY) who took the assumption that the earth warmed, and went from there.

He might as well have said "If an asteroid landed in Antartica..." and gone on from there...

[JohnGaltLine]

Man made Global Warming is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on mankind. It would be laughable if it weren't so co$tly.

100+ years of climate data vs. millions of years of climate.

Temperatures corresponding directly with solar activity.

Mars experiencing similar temperature patterns.

Computer models held up as science.

Unproven claims stated to be settled fact.

Skeptics targeted.

The whole bloody dogma is so transparent, yet held as provable as gravity.

1970's: Global cooling will destroy us all
1980's: The Ozone hole will destroy us all
1990's: The Ozone hole has always been there, but Co2 emissions will cause Global Warming that will destroy us all.
2000's: Forestation causes more warming than CO2, but Climate Change because of our progress will destroy us all.


It amazes me how many stupid people exist. A 90's band from Tempe said it best: "Everybody knows that the world is full of stupid people... But I've got the pistol, so I'll keep the Peso's. Yeah, and that seems fair."

[ThinkingMan]

I don't care what the experts say! Rush Limbaugh says it's a hoax!

The experts say the same thing.

[ThinkingMan]

I'm sorry, I can't help ya.

The desire to require a global temp cap is what lost my respect for the IPCC. They can rail on and on about the dangers of climate change and they can rail on and on about the immorality of CO2, but I won't be scammed into thinking that there is a legitimate reason to regulate CO2 as a pollutant.

CO2 or no CO2 we still have and will have climate change.

It's obvious the gears have to be switched from "global warming" to climate change" to preserve any shreds of credibility.

The lost that cred when they switched to global warming from global cooling.

[Darkwind]

:)):)):))

[ThinkingMan]

You have to give them credit for devising an imaginative
way of taxing the air that you breath (exhale).
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.
.
.

Not only that, but everything with a carbon atom in it.

Gov. Patrick's Carbon Fee. (google)

[penner01]

Global warming 'will be worse than expected' warns Stern

What in the heck? 4-5c in the next 91 years? Is this guy freaking insane...Please someone give me some soild support for this before I start thinking that these people are pure nuts. Please god people that support this and want to put our economy into the run around show me now. I beg you on the left to show me. I want to know why you think that we are so messed up that we have to make these moves for. I just don't see it at all.

They knew Obama was going to say the economy isn't as bad as it seemed - so we something else to get hyped about. What a crock

[penner01]

I know, hard to believe huh. And this is retroactive, that is why we in Omaha only had to endure 4 whole hours of temps over 100 last year instead of the usual 3-6 weeks

Hey, ask the experts, they'll tell you. It's consistent with the model

[penner01]

Freaking Insanity is the Hallmark of the AlGorist Cult. But notice that he is not offering any evidence

You have to look very closely at the words that these people use: "if," "could," "might..." Those words are caveats that make everything that follows meaningless. For example, it is equally meaningless to say "If the the global temperature falls 5 degrees by the end of the century, live would be very difficult and billions of lives could be in jeopardy."

But the article also said scientists at the meeting "echoed" him.

Hear it? if if if if if if if if if if if if if if

[Billy_Bob]

I don't care what the experts say! Rush Limbaugh says it's a hoax!

When the so called "experts" manipulate there data like the IPCC has done they are criminals.....

Given this comes from the Criminals I don't beleive it for a minuet...

Given my own studies on Climate Drivers they is full of ****....

[Billy_Bob]

Hey, ask the experts, they'll tell you. It's consistent with the model

Which Model?

What (who's) data was used to create the model?

If Mann or Hansen have ANY input throw it out....

[Billy_Bob]

Man made Global Warming is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on mankind. It would be laughable if it weren't so co$tly.

100+ years of climate data vs. millions of years of climate.

Temperatures corresponding directly with solar activity.

Mars experiencing similar temperature patterns.

Computer models held up as science.

Unproven claims stated to be settled fact.

Skeptics targeted.

The whole bloody dogma is so transparent, yet held as provable as gravity.

1970's: Global cooling will destroy us all
1980's: The Ozone hole will destroy us all
1990's: The Ozone hole has always been there, but Co2 emissions will cause Global Warming that will destroy us all.
2000's: Forestation causes more warming than CO2, but Climate Change because of our progress will destroy us all.


It amazes me how many stupid people exist. A 90's band from Tempe said it best: "Everybody knows that the world is full of stupid people... But I've got the pistol, so I'll keep the Peso's. Yeah, and that seems fair."

A new crisis for each new decade........


HELLO>...there is a pattern to their behavior.....Keep everyone in crisis mode so they can push their crap agenda.....

[fredthompsonBA]

I don't care what the experts say! Rush Limbaugh says it's a hoax!

Experts?

An economist and Al Gore?

[PredFan]

Message to all those who believe in Global Warming/Climate Change:

I know a way for you to profit in these troubled economic times. Get all of your money, get a 2nd mortgage on our house, your mother's house your mother in law's house and go give it to this guy named Bernie Madoff. Lots and lots of people already have and you can too.

He also gave money to the DNC so you know you can trust him.

[Billy_Bob]

message to all those who believe in global warming/climate change:

I know a way for you to profit in these troubled economic times. Get all of your money, get a 2nd mortgage on our house, your mother's house your mother in law's house and go give it to this guy named bernie madoff. Lots and lots of people already have and you can too.

He also gave money to the dnc so you know you can trust him.

lmao

:)):)):))

[gdoane]

I hate to be the guy on the outside looking in, but the economist is correct.

IF the temperature of the world increased by 6C (~10F) in less than 100 years it would almost certainly be a natural disaster of epic proportions.

I think we can all agree that the extra heat would move the optimal farming range drastically. Yes, sir, IF the temperature went up, the world will pay severely.

The temperature here in Phoenix, AZ can swing ~30° in ONE DAY. Tonight's low is 53° and the high is 80° but nobody is going to die from that mild weather.

What difference would a crummy extra 10° make? It's GOING to get up to 115° this summer anyway, same as it does every summer.

I LIKE IT HOT. The record high temperature ever in Phoenix, AZ was 122° on June 26th, 1990. I'd love to see that nearly 20-year-old record fall. I remember that glorious day, it was almost like an undeclared holiday. That was totally fun. The airport shut down because jet airplanes aren't rated for temperatures over 120°. Hot air is thinner air and doesn't give the lift to airplane wings that cooler air does.

If we've got global warming killing us all, then why can't we beat that crummy 122° record high from 1990? TURN UP THE HEAT!! I don't live in the desert to chill out.

[Billy_Bob]

The temperature here in Phoenix, AZ can swing ~30° in ONE DAY. Tonight's low is 53° and the high is 80° but nobody is going to die from that mild weather.

What difference would a crummy extra 10° make? It's GOING to get up to 115° this summer anyway, same as it does every summer.

I LIKE IT HOT. The record high temperature ever in Phoenix, AZ was 122° on June 26th, 1990. I'd love to see that nearly 20-year-old record fall. I remember that glorious day, it was almost like an undeclared holiday. That was totally fun. The airport shut down because jet airplanes aren't rated for temperatures over 120°. Hot air is thinner air and doesn't give the lift to airplane wings that cooler air does.

If we've got global warming killing us all, then why can't we beat that crummy 122° record high from 1990? TURN UP THE HEAT!! I don't live in the desert to chill out.

Wasn't the BAN last summer?:D

[penner01]

Which Model?

What (who's) data was used to create the model?

If Mann or Hansen have ANY input throw it out....

Well, using that argument is shot anyway when it's used to explain cooling, expanding ice caps, snow....yadda yadda yadda. It seems it's turned into a convenient way of brushing off the arguments. Hey, the adminstration does the same thing don't they........

[SabercatPuck]

Hey, ask the experts, they'll tell you. It's consistent with the model
It's consistent with my model, but mine has it's major source of energy near the center of the solar system

[Billy_Bob]

Well, using that argument is shot anyway when it's used to explain cooling, expanding ice caps, snow....yadda yadda yadda. It seems it's turned into a convenient way of brushing off the arguments. Hey, the adminstration does the same thing don't they........

When using ANYONE'S DATA you always get two other independant sets and factor....... The average used is more accurate than a single set...

When looking at Ice expanse and any other climate factors you always VERIFY with independent data.... IPCC data is skewed by their agenda... that's why over 1800 scientist DO NOT AGREE with the findings..

[penner01]

It's consistent with my model, but mine has it's major source of energy near the center of the solar system

Go figure. Who invited you to bring more logic to the thread? :)

[SabercatPuck]

Go figure. Who invited you to bring more logic to the thread? :)
I am the Walrus, I am the Sabercat, and I am not dying out from global warming

[Billy_Bob]

It's consistent with my model, but mine has it's major source of energy near the center of the solar system

The sun is at minimum.....

And the models I use show that the warming they are predicting will not come... 0.05C rise if the sun maintained the 1989 output level per year....

However, using current minimum levels the same model shows a decline of 0.11C per year for the first 13 years and then a 0.15C decline for every year there after.(were at year 12 now)

The IPCC 4C model is crap......and bad science...

[SabercatPuck]

The sun is at minimum.....

And the models I use show that the warming they are predicting will not come... 0.05C rise if the sun maintained the 1989 output level per year....

However, using current minimum levels the same model shows a decline of 0.11C per year for the first 13 years and then a 0.15C decline for every year there after.(were at year 12 now)

The IPCC 4C model is crap......and bad science...
If I remember right Florida shoula been quite a bit wetter by now if Hansen had his way from his earlier GW models

[Billy_Bob]

If I remember right Florida shoula been quite a bit wetter by now if Hansen had his way from his earlier GW models

Bingo...... and we were supposed to be 6 deg C warmer right now..

[SabercatPuck]

Bingo...... and we were supposed to be 6 deg C warmer right now..
We are if the baseline is back in the last ice age sometime (only about 100,000 years to choose from so I wont try to limit you too much on picking the exact year)

[Billy_Bob]

We are if the baseline is back in the last ice age sometime (only about 100,000 years to choose from so I wont try to limit you too much on picking the exact year)

Ah...... there in lies the problem....... there are millions of years to choose from....

I was actually alluding to the idiocy of the older 1980's models

[spearmaster]

It's time for these people to give it up.

The global warming ponzi scheme has been exposed.

When you can simply transfer a lot of money to someone else to continue behaviors that they SAY will destroy the planet, and they applaud you for your good world citizenship - then there is something inherently wrong.

They'll never get a dime of my cash, if I can help it.

I recycle and I minimize my garbage and consumption - because I think that human beings are pigs as far as how we treat the planet, and I believe that our real problem is that our species is over-populated. So the least I can do is try and minimize the crap I leave behind.

But I don't believe that human beings can change the planet's climate - and I don't believe that sending money to Al Gore, David Suzuki, or any other envrio-freak (i.e. opportunist) will do ANYTHING good for the world.

I agree, conserving the Earth and not trashing the land and water is great. U.S. and Canada have the most breath taking scenery on Earth. But that GW crap is a big farce, if they're so concerned about GW than why doesn't anyone cry and whine about the space program or hypocrite Al Gore's houseboat and giant mansion?

[ModerateVoice]

Only after Obama proves to me that he can fix an economy will I listen to anything he has to say on all this global warming crap.

[PredFan]

Global Warming was a scam based on the Hockey Stick Graph. Which has been proven to be a lie.

Climate change is the biggest scam going now that Bernie Madoff is done.

Call it "Climate Change" and no matter what the weather is, you can use it to support your scam. It's genius! Right now P.T. Barnum is rolling over in his grave wishing he'd thought of it.

[wonderingrover]

Ah, if it was an economist that made the assertions in the OP, then I know it has to be true. I always seek the opinions of economists when trying to determine the truth about global warming - just like I seek the advice of climatologists when it comes to making decisions about my investments.

[Gabby]

what exactly is the problem? The earth has survived many periods hotter than even the predicted high.


http://www.scotese.com/climate.htm

[tenzerra]

This was the coldest winter since a record less than 10 years ago...10 years? I thought these wackos said we were all going to fry?!? I would have thought it would have been the coldest winter in the last 1000 years from what we hear from crazy Al (just give me more money) Gore.

I have a couple of questions...what about the global freezing scare in the 70's? What about those killer bees that were going to kill us all...still have not seen them and it is now 20 years and no bees when they were suppose to kill us within 5 years.

Is it just me or are they now calling it "climate change" instead of global warming...maybe because their conference in DC got snowed out last month caused them to change tactics.

Hey Al...we had much warmer temperatures when T-Rex was roaming the Earth even in Anartica...did T-rex drive an SUV?

[cautiousamerican]

India and China are so much more responsible for polution right now.

Global warming is a theory, anyway and NOT PROVEN AT ALL. Supposedly our footprint will only raise the temperature like 1 degree.

Just another way for Gov'ts to scam us out of money.

The earth has heated and cooled before. It's a normal cycle.

I do think we should stop poluting, but the US isn't the main culprit right now.

I'm sure it all fits in nicely with cap and trade.

[tenzerra]

India and China are so much more responsible for polution right now.

Global warming is a theory, anyway and NOT PROVEN AT ALL. Supposedly our footprint will only raise the temperature like 1 degree.

Just another way for Gov'ts to scam us out of money.

The earth has heated and cooled before. It's a normal cycle.

I do think we should stop poluting, but the US isn't the main culprit right now.

I'm sure it all fits in nicely with cap and trade.

That pretty much sums it up. Crazy Als ponzi scheme is getting exposed.

[Billy_Bob]

That pretty much sums it up. Crazy Als ponzi scheme is getting exposed.

Now we need to put him in jail for defrauding the people and the government... Let alone the murders it will cause chasing this ghost when were all ice cubes...

[Samm]

Well duh.

IF the world gets hotter, things could go badly.

IF the world gets colder, things could go badly.

I just wanted to point out that this was an economist (STUDIES THE ECONOMY) who took the assumption that the earth warmed, and went from there.

He might as well have said "If an asteroid landed in Antartica..." and gone on from there...

And IF Liberals had any sense at all we would not even be discussing this topic...

[shannytown]

Who cares about CO2 levels..what we really should be concerned about is that pesky Dihydrogenmonoxide..see my link!

http://www.dhmo.org/

We're all doomed, I say!!!:rolleyes:

[freddyboy]

I don't know what all the fuss is about. After this past winter (snow still on the ground) I am officially in favor of global warming. I am pumping as much carbon dioxide into the atmosphere as possible.

Bring the warmth on!

[BillyM 2007]

Global warming 'will be worse than expected' warns Stern

Economist says his 2006 groundbreaking report underestimated risk and accuses governments of not being ready for consequences of 6C temperature rise
Good for him. The Left is hanging in there with this canard. Let's not let a nasty little detail like the fact that there has not been any global warming since 1998 get in the way of a good government power grab.

[BillyM 2007]

what exactly is the problem? The earth has survived many periods hotter than even the predicted high.


http://www.scotese.com/climate.htm
Well, things got pretty nasty in the world during the last Little Ice Age.

Bring on the CO2, boys.

[BillyM 2007]

what exactly is the problem?
The problem is self-loathing liberals looking for yet another reason to trash the West and its successes. This gives these chicken-little kooks something to whine about when they are not busy killing babies, "marrying" homosexuals, and finding rights for terrorists.