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jm0825
March 12th, 2009, 9:05 pm
This was post on a photo web site.
http://criticalexposure.smugmug.com/gallery/5634804_yLEKq/1/368364872_nHoWL#368365675_rxPMN
quote:
"STUDENT PROTEST
Unique (12th grade), Baltimore Youth Congress
"From K-12th grade, we're a wasted cause. We 'learn,' we do poorly on tests, we get expelled from school for fighting. Truth is, though, despite this stereotype displayed in the media, we care. We recognize that the failures and anger of city students is a product of our poor funding. Because of this, some of us channel our anger into our protests, and rather than fighting other students, we fight the real criminal: those that have the money, see the problem, but make every excuse to not solve the prblem. We'll keep trying...our Baltimore-bred spirits are not so easily broken."
Let me paraphrse this
"STUDENT PROTEST
Unique (12th grade), Baltimore Youth Congress
"From K-12th grade, we're a wasted cause [we are lazy].
We 'learn,' we do poorly on tests [we dont want study],
we get expelled from school for fighting [we don't respect each other or have empathy for anyone else].
Truth is, though, despite this stereotype displayed in the media,
we care[We show we care by our actions as they were declared above].
We recognize that the failures and anger of city students is a product of our poor funding. [ I am a victim, I am not responsible for anything I do]
Because of this, some of us channel our anger into our protests, and rather than fighting other students, we fight the real criminal: those that have the money[ I can't do anything for myself ] see the problem, but make every excuse to not solve the prblem. We'll keep trying...our Baltimore-bred spirits are not so easily broken." [I want someone to give me a handout and take care of me because you owe me.]
I seems that people forget how to make the best of a situation and strive to do better no matter what the circumstances. Instead of depending on ones own determination and asking those around you to help in that determination people have become victims of there own selfishness.
RWReaganfan
March 12th, 2009, 9:13 pm
^5!
jackson Mill
March 12th, 2009, 9:15 pm
One's own boot straps can't always pull them up.
The school funding system in most places is a resolute of poor polices that force poor to fund their own district. If you haven't been to in city Baltimore, take a road trip...you may gain some sympathy. Then read up on the systemic issues of inner city schools.
RWReaganfan
March 12th, 2009, 9:18 pm
One's own boot straps can't always pull them up.
The school funding system in most places is a resolute of poor polices that force poor to fund their own district. If you haven't been to in city Baltimore, take a road trip...you may gain some sympathy. Then read up on the systemic issues of inner city schools.
The BS flag is waving proudly!
I teach in an inner city school! Funding is not the reason these kids do poorly!
ben41281
March 12th, 2009, 10:00 pm
The BS flag is waving proudly!
I teach in an inner city school! Funding is not the reason these kids do poorly!
Actualy your right. There are three main components to the kids failing or succeeding.
They are in no particular order.
1)teachers
2)parents
3)students
Any one of which could be the cause for failure. More often than not, more than one is the problem!
jackson Mill
March 13th, 2009, 5:18 pm
The BS flag is waving proudly!
I teach in an inner city school! Funding is not the reason these kids do poorly!
Well, I bet you haven't grown up or taught in the "corridor of shame" AKA South Carolina state schools...step into those building and tell me they don't need more funding. Education needs more than a building and teachers. Moreover, the average salary for a teacher is very low, discouraging the "best" teachers from teaching at the high school level or in the public sectors. SC's schools face massive budget cut (largely from a shift from funding schools with property taxes to an increase in sales tax; a foolish conservative effort to "make more fair" the taxing system). These budget cuts are forcing many schools to hustle to stay aloft, even school that perform well. Inner city schools, however, face the added trouble of an unhealthy environment (I.E. drugs, gangs, ect). One method of addressing this environment is after school programs, which are the first to be cut given SC deficit. Individual and parental responsibility is SO important, i agree fully. But how can a single mother or a family in food stamps afford or provide the services that their child may need to be challenged in school and away from unhealthy situations that are inherit in the environment that child grows up in?
RWReaganfan
March 13th, 2009, 11:27 pm
Well, I bet you haven't grown up or taught in the "corridor of shame" AKA South Carolina state schools...step into those building and tell me they don't need more funding. Education needs more than a building and teachers. Moreover, the average salary for a teacher is very low, discouraging the "best" teachers from teaching at the high school level or in the public sectors. SC's schools face massive budget cut (largely from a shift from funding schools with property taxes to an increase in sales tax; a foolish conservative effort to "make more fair" the taxing system). These budget cuts are forcing many schools to hustle to stay aloft, even school that perform well. Inner city schools, however, face the added trouble of an unhealthy environment (I.E. drugs, gangs, ect). One method of addressing this environment is after school programs, which are the first to be cut given SC deficit. Individual and parental responsibility is SO important, i agree fully. But how can a single mother or a family in food stamps afford or provide the services that their child may need to be challenged in school and away from unhealthy situations that are inherit in the environment that child grows up in?
A school with little or no funding can still be successful. However, I agree that funding is an issue, but when the student's home life is a living hell, you can fund schools to the tune of a million bucks a kid and they will STILL fail!
sgdp
March 14th, 2009, 2:53 am
This was post on a photo web site.
http://criticalexposure.smugmug.com/gallery/5634804_yLEKq/1/368364872_nHoWL#368365675_rxPMN
quote:
"STUDENT PROTEST
Unique (12th grade), Baltimore Youth Congress
"From K-12th grade, we're a wasted cause. We 'learn,' we do poorly on tests, we get expelled from school for fighting. Truth is, though, despite this stereotype displayed in the media, we care. We recognize that the failures and anger of city students is a product of our poor funding. Because of this, some of us channel our anger into our protests, and rather than fighting other students, we fight the real criminal: those that have the money, see the problem, but make every excuse to not solve the prblem. We'll keep trying...our Baltimore-bred spirits are not so easily broken."
Let me paraphrse this
"STUDENT PROTEST
Unique (12th grade), Baltimore Youth Congress
"From K-12th grade, we're a wasted cause [we are lazy].
We 'learn,' we do poorly on tests [we dont want study],
we get expelled from school for fighting [we don't respect each other or have empathy for anyone else].
Truth is, though, despite this stereotype displayed in the media,
we care[We show we care by our actions as they were declared above].
We recognize that the failures and anger of city students is a product of our poor funding. [ I am a victim, I am not responsible for anything I do]
Because of this, some of us channel our anger into our protests, and rather than fighting other students, we fight the real criminal: those that have the money[ I can't do anything for myself ] see the problem, but make every excuse to not solve the prblem. We'll keep trying...our Baltimore-bred spirits are not so easily broken." [I want someone to give me a handout and take care of me because you owe me.]
I seems that people forget how to make the best of a situation and strive to do better no matter what the circumstances. Instead of depending on ones own determination and asking those around you to help in that determination people have become victims of there own selfishness.
I'm not sure your paraphrasing is appropriate. Note, "(D)espite this stereotype portrayed in the media..."
As a photographer, I was touched by their work. It's actually quite good stuff.
I agree that a major problem is the people involved themselves, i.e., parents, teachers, and students. I commend these kids for their willingness to help change the situation, even though they may not have the exact remedy.
I don't believe they're looking for a "handout", and it's a shame that any American school is in that poor of condition.
What's the ultimate solution? Too multi-faceted to go into, but these kids look like good kids. :clap:
CoCorwin
March 15th, 2009, 5:59 am
I'd add one more cause of failure in education: curriculum. Our school district has taken up the "Everyday Math" flag.....enough to make you freakin crazy, besides confusing the heck out of the kids and totally demoralizing them. Thank you Univ of Chicago for figuring out yet another way to make kids give up on math.
JenyEliza
March 15th, 2009, 9:59 am
A school with little or no funding can still be successful. However, I agree that funding is an issue, but when the student's home life is a living hell, you can fund schools to the tune of a million bucks a kid and they will STILL fail!
Absolutely right! :clap:
Our home school district is basically inner city schools in the suburbs (ie, in a very strongly minority area, with many many single parent homes--headed by grandparents or mothers). These schools have never passed NCLB and now must offer transfers to higher-performing schools.
I am one of the parents that pulled my kids out and sent them to the higher performing school. There were maybe 100 other families that did this--even though a school bus is provided to transport the children to and from the new school.
It means getting up an hour earlier and it means an hour on the bus in the morning and at night. It means the academics are more rigorous and the expectations of behavior are more demanding than at the old school, but my kids *are* getting a better education than they would had I left them in their dangerous, underperforming school.
The parents that cared enough to pull their kids out of the crap schools CARE about their children's education and success in life. The people who left their kids behind aren't the kind who would support academic success even if they had pull their child(ren) out and transferred them.
It's NOT about money. It's about what's going on at home--and if the "adults" in the family even give a **** what their teens are doing with their lives. Most of 'em let them just roam the streets after school and at night. Homework? Doesn't happen. Do they "adults" care? Apparently not.
Fighting? Every damned day there. With weapons. Guns. Knives. Shanks. Whatever the little urchins can get their hands on.
And it's not just boys. The girls are just as bad. They'll jump a girl and pull hair out until it's just scalp and the dura covering her skull. They'll pull fingernails off right down to the nailbed. They'll kick their victim in the privates and the stomach and stomp her head and laugh and call her names while doing it. Such fun for them! And....that would be administered for looking at them the wrong way, or for just looking at the girl's boyfriend. No real big reason needed.
The teachers and administration ought to get combat pay, but they don't. Our (old) middle school is where wayward teachers and adminstrators are exhiled when they **** off someone in the head office, or have too many complaints about them at other schools. They send them to the middle school right behind my house.
A place where 6th graders load their backpacks with loaded semi-automatic weapons, some weed and some crack, and catch the bus for another day of learning in academia.
And some people wonder why I pulled my kids out of this school? :eh: :eek:
geauxtohell
March 15th, 2009, 7:46 pm
They'll jump a girl and pull hair out until it's just scalp and the dura covering her skull.
The skull covers the dura, not the other way around. Maybe you were thinking of the periosteum.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dura_mater