School Shootings

[European]

I guess some of you heard it in the news:
There's been another school shooting this time in the small town of Winnenden in Germany resulting in sixteen confirmed deaths, including the perpetrator, seventeen-year-old Tim Kretschmer, who was a graduate of the school.

Since I'm 17 too, I wonder how someone just my age can do such terrible things to other human beeings.

here in Germany the media coverege is enormus.Discussions about gun law and "Killer Spiele" (>>>Killer Games,or egoshooters in proper english) are ,as always in such cases ,going on.But as I see it politicans and the mass media only make computer games and violent movies responsible for this.
Infact thats just not true,the real reason for young people to go mad is the fact that we live in a achieving society(thats of course not the only reason)It's like if you dont finish your school and go studying you'll be a total idiot and end up somewhere in the streets,so young people always have these pressure to achieve something better to make more money.I think that is not the way young people should grow up.:frown:


What do you think makes young people kill others?
Who's to blaim for it?
How could the society help to not make these events possible in the future?
What can teachers do?


BTW:At the same day I belive there was a shooting in Alabama where a man killed his familly and innocent bystanders.

It makes me sad when I hear such things....

[RickRhetoric]

Since I'm 17 too, I wonder how someone just my age can do such terrible things to other human beeings.



What do you think makes young people kill others?
Who's to blaim for it?
How could the society help to not make these events possible in the future?
What can teachers do?


BTW:At the same day I belive there was a shooting in Alabama where a man killed his familly and innocent bystanders.



It's not just young people -- it's people of all ages; it's nothing new and always has been that way.

Every since there were a few thousand people on the planet, some freak with a loose screw would go on a killing rampage. It's not a disproportionate phenomena unique to the present time. Granted, there's much, much more of it happening nowadays but that's because there's much, much more people nowadays -- the population of the earth is approaching seven billion! So it's only natural that the odds are growing by the second that there will be more and more of this kind of behaviour.

Also, there's better and more rapid reporting of the news of such incidents nowadays. In the old days most of such killing sprees went unreported and unnoticed.

[Conservatismfirst]

There are a million reasons why this is happening...some of which the other person (RickRhetoric) mentioned, but that certainly doesn't give all reasons.

Yes, people have been killing people since man first walked the earth. Yes, there is faster media channels with the internet, etc.
Yes, there are more people on the Earth now than 10 years ago

BUT, those above responses do NOT give proper explanation of the exponential increase in the number, frequency and gore of these killings. The first of these I remember was in 1999 at Columbine High school...now I know that the population has NOT gone up that much since then in any country where you hear of these shootings.


I am age 35, with no wife or children and much time to think (as you can tell). At 35 I have twice the life experience as you and am working on my 4th college degree. I suffered the same problems (in general) as you are and got into a lot of fights and other problems. I have also played games like Grand Theft Auto and Manhunt a few years ago. I must say, it would be disturbing to anyone at any age to watch that every day all day long...common sense tells you that "what goes in must come out" so to speak.

What has changed is that we all seem to have a sense of "hopelessness" and you'll see this in media, music, movies, games, etc. It has and will continue to get worse as the western world continues to deny God...I know that's not what you want to hear! I didn't want to hear it either!!! I had to find out the hard way!!

If you are looking for an answer...it's in the Christian Bible and church. There's no reason to complicate it and look at all the reasons your mind gives you only to become mentally tired and confused since you can't quite find that ONE reason that stands out. YOU'll never figure it out!!!! It's too big for the human mind!! If you surrender to Christ you'll see that we are all capable of doing those things...given the right (or actually wrong) circumstances!!!

Again I know it's not the answer you want but it's the ONLY answer that makes any sense and will settle your worrisome mind.

I hope this helps, take care:pray:

[AmericanSpirit]

What do you think makes young people kill others?

The have gone insane. NO ONE makes them do anything. They decided to go and do it themselves. Evidence? They alsmost always kill themselves afterwards. They are crazy. Not difficult to understand.

Who's to blaim for it?
Their ownselves.


How could the society help to not make these events possible in the future?
They can allow teachers to have the right to defend themselves. Allow them to carry weapons on campus. In the end, nothing can stop people from going insane. All you can do is minimize the damage they cause.

What can teachers do?
If they allow them to carry, then they should carry. If not they may run, die, or cower under a desk.

[PhantomPholly]

There has not been any increase in violence among school children. This is a lie told by the Liberal media to excuse their demands for "gun control."

The reality is that between medical mental illness and severe abuse at home there are a certain number of incidents of violence per million students per year. In reality it was HIGHER in previous decades - there were fewer programs to catch such likely problems and when they did happen they simply weren't reported beyond their local area.

Now, a few have been more spectacular in recent years. This, too is unsurprising. We have video games and movies providing instruction on how to create the maximum disruption.

100 years ago enough adults carried firearms that, when such an incident broke out, it would get handled quickly. Today teachers are afraid to carry firearms for fear of getting fired.

Thank a liberal.

[Long Island Bob]

What do you think makes young people kill others?
their victim mentality and their hatred for others



Who's to blaim for it?

the shooter is to blame for the shootings.



How could the society help to not make these events possible in the future?
there are a couple things society could do but they are akin to draingin the ocean to prevent shark attacks. IOE tey would requrie a MASSIVE martialing of manpower and resourcse the likes of which have seldom been seen in world history . . and they would prevent no more than half of future shootings.



What can teachers do?

they can and should arm themselves but that will never happen.

[buflineks]

The thing that should put this in prespective for most of the gun banners is that this happened in Europe where there are much more draconian gun control laws.

All gun control laws do is create more victims.

[vir doctus]

I guess some of you heard it in the news:
There's been another school shooting this time in the small town of Winnenden in Germany resulting in sixteen confirmed deaths, including the perpetrator, seventeen-year-old Tim Kretschmer, who was a graduate of the school.

Since I'm 17 too, I wonder how someone just my age can do such terrible things to other human beeings.

here in Germany the media coverege is enormus.Discussions about gun law and "Killer Spiele" (>>>Killer Games,or egoshooters in proper english) are ,as always in such cases ,going on.But as I see it politicans and the mass media only make computer games and violent movies responsible for this.
Infact thats just not true,the real reason for young people to go mad is the fact that we live in a achieving society(thats of course not the only reason)It's like if you dont finish your school and go studying you'll be a total idiot and end up somewhere in the streets,so young people always have these pressure to achieve something better to make more money.I think that is not the way young people should grow up.:frown:


What do you think makes young people kill others?
Who's to blaim for it?
How could the society help to not make these events possible in the future?
What can teachers do?


BTW:At the same day I belive there was a shooting in Alabama where a man killed his familly and innocent bystanders.

It makes me sad when I hear such things....

I have a daughter with Fetal Alcohol Syndrome (FAS), her birth mother drank while pregnant. Not many people know about FAS, but the prisons are full of people with the problem. Because brain cells are killed while trying to develop, the brain does not develop the way a normal brain should. People with FAS, like my daughter, like many who murder, do not understand morality, they do not understand consequences for themselves or others, they do what their urges incline them to. My daughter, like others with FAS, lives 'monkey see, monkey do', the violence she is exposed to is a new urge to give into.

People can scoff that this is a significant public health hazard, the problem will continue in that case. Or everyone made aware of the problem can make sure the women around them don't touch a single drop of alcohol while pregnant or trying to become pregnant.