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ahall10
March 10th, 2009, 11:02 pm
Today I was given an assignment in which I am supposed to write a short satyrical piece on the anti-gay right belief. I go to an extremely liberal high school and the assumption is that everyone is a democrat and therefore is supportive of a homosexual's right to marry. I am one of the maybe ten(not a real number, just a guess) republicans/conservatives in my school. At the same time that I do not hate or dislike homosexuals, I have grown up in a Christian church and am anti-gay marriage. This assignment really bothered me. I was pretty much asked to bash and make fun of my own beliefs. Yes, it is important to be able to laugh at yourself but this is beyond laughing at myself. This assignment was very hard for me because while trying to take my beliefs and twisting them to make them sound crazy, I feel that I might have actually written something that could be really hurtful. It is due tomorrow and it is all written, I'm just feeling very uneasy about this and needed to get it off my chest.
BBiggs
March 10th, 2009, 11:27 pm
Today I was given an assignment in which I am supposed to write a short satyrical piece on the anti-gay right belief. I go to an extremely liberal high school and the assumption is that everyone is a democrat and therefore is supportive of a homosexual's right to marry. I am one of the maybe ten(not a real number, just a guess) republicans/conservatives in my school. At the same time that I do not hate or dislike homosexuals, I have grown up in a Christian church and am anti-gay marriage. This assignment really bothered me. I was pretty much asked to bash and make fun of my own beliefs. Yes, it is important to be able to laugh at yourself but this is beyond laughing at myself. This assignment was very hard for me because while trying to take my beliefs and twisting them to make them sound crazy, I feel that I might have actually written something that could be really hurtful. It is due tomorrow and it is all written, I'm just feeling very uneasy about this and needed to get it off my chest.
Your assignment is ridiculous as far as I'm concerned. I could not write a piece like that and feel good either. In fact, I probably would have done the opposite of the assignment. That is typical liberal thought on part of your teacher, the collective all must think the same. Stand strong on your beliefs.
BryanC
March 10th, 2009, 11:36 pm
I have had to debate positions that I did not agree with many times in school. Some teachers are open to disagreement, and since writing assingments test certain abilities, will grade based on demonstration of those abilities. I cannot say about your teacher, of course.
This topic raises an interesting point- the individual. Individual is a term used to denote that which cannot be further divided, yet how often are we asked to seperate beliefs, practices, et cetera from ourselves? Individuals are asked to "check such things at the door" at school, work, jury duty, and many other places. This practice is difficult, if not impossible for many. Maybe someone can seperate their religiosity from the rest of their person, but you obviously cannot. For good or bad, this is the way society is, and you will have such conflicts at many points in your life.
UniversalDestiny
March 11th, 2009, 10:43 pm
As a teacher who taught Civics and Economics, and as a conservative I would not have given this assignment to you. While we may talk about the gay-rights issue briefly, it is something that should not be brought into the mainstream high school classroom. Politics and certain issues should not be brought into the classroom period.
Especially "gay rights" because it does not belong in the classroom because it's morally and ethnically wrong. However, with most districts and school systems today, liberals are in power and are bringing things that years ago should not be brought into school and indoctornated on the youths of today.
When I taught Civics and Economics, I taught the Constitution, the three branches of government, the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights. I did not enforce my conservative beliefs or even if I was a liberal I would not even indoctornate my students with my liberal beliefs. However, this assignment was given to you is morally and ethnically wrong.
Kudos to you for sticking to your guns despite a difficult assignment!
ThoughtPolice
March 11th, 2009, 11:52 pm
You need to decide what is more important to you. Either you stick by your beliefs and principles or you let them slide for one grade in one class. If you plan to go on to college, you will face worse environments than you face now. If you dont stand by your beliefs now, it will be hard to stand by them in college.
Alone In Liberalville
March 12th, 2009, 12:00 am
I understand your position - you need to pass the class, but your teacher had no right to tell you what side you would take. With your parents (who, by the way, are taxpayers) behind you, you could bring the situation up to the principle. But I do understand any hesitation you might have. God bless.
ahall10
March 12th, 2009, 12:06 am
Thanks this really helped. This was actualy for an English class after reading A Modest Proposal. I turned in the assignment and it turns out that a lot of people, although they did not have the same moral issues as I did, had trouble writing this assignment.
jackson Mill
March 12th, 2009, 12:40 am
An honest question:
Why are some people uncomfortable with homosexuality?
Alone In Liberalville
March 12th, 2009, 12:54 am
An honest question:
Why are some people uncomfortable with homosexuality?
Seriously, what people do in their own bedrooms - I just don't want to know. But don't come to my kids school and tell them about it! Thanks, explaining sexual matters to my children is my job and I don't want the government deciding when they should hear about what two people do to each other, especially if they are of the same gender.
I believe in the inerrancy of the Bible and I teach that to my children. The problem with homosexual marriage lies in the fact that scripture calls it an abomination. And I don't want to hear about what my male coworkers "husband" did with him (yet I do...) I dare say I never tell him what I do with my husband. If he wants to do that, that's his business, but don't share it with my children at their school!
jackson Mill
March 12th, 2009, 1:03 am
Seriously, what people do in their own bedrooms - I just don't want to know. But don't come to my kids school and tell them about it! Thanks, explaining sexual matters to my children is my job and I don't want the government deciding when they should hear about what two people do to each other, especially if they are of the same gender.
Fair enough, I can sympathizes with people not wanting to discuss sexual matter in school. Although i personal think they should. But, the end of your statement is really what I am wondering about. What is the reasoning in the bible against homosexuality? I personally don't know and would love insight.
Alone In Liberalville
March 12th, 2009, 1:09 am
Ok, fair question. I've never been to seminary, so I'm not sure I'm qualified to give you a complete answer, but I would say it has to do with God's original plan for creation. He created woman for man, and man for woman, and called it good. This was His intention.
Please don't misunderstand me on sin, though. This doesn't make homosexuality better or worse than anything else we do outside of God's will. A man and a woman having an affair is not a better, or worse, sin. It is equaliy out of God's will. So is cheating on homework. The only issue comes with society saying it is ok, when God doesn't. I don't think I am a better person than my homosexual friends - we all have issues. I just don't like calling what God called wrong, right. Even if I disagree with them, and may not want to hear about what they do in private, they are still my friends.
jackson Mill
March 12th, 2009, 1:14 am
Ok, fair question. I've never been to seminary, so I'm not sure I'm qualified to give you a complete answer, but I would say it has to do with God's original plan for creation. He created woman for man, and man for woman, and called it good. This was His intention.
Please don't misunderstand me on sin, though. This doesn't make homosexuality better or worse than anything else we do outside of God's will. A man and a woman having an affair is not a better, or worse, sin. It is equaliy out of God's will. So is cheating on homework. The only issue comes with society saying it is ok, when God doesn't. I don't think I am a better person than my homosexual friends - we all have issues. I just don't like calling what God called wrong, right. Even if I disagree with them, and may not want to hear about what they do in private, they are still my friends.
Makes sense. I personally (because I am not religious) disagree but thank you for the insight.
Old_Mil
March 12th, 2009, 7:41 am
An honest question:
Why are some people uncomfortable with homosexuality?
First lesson, people who oppose homosexuality aren't "uncomfortable" with it. For many of us, it is a moral evil - a disgusting behavior akin to cannibalism, child molestation, murder and so on.
Haplo
March 12th, 2009, 8:13 am
First lesson, people who oppose homosexuality aren't "uncomfortable" with it. For many of us, it is a moral evil - a disgusting behavior akin to cannibalism, child molestation, murder and so on.I'll give you a lead-in question for the second lesson. Why do many of you equate homosexuality with disgusting things like cannibalism, child molestation, murder and so on?
Those others are all done against to receiver's will and cause harm to that person.
Homosexuality is at its core a type of sexual attraction. Unlike child molestation, those who practice homosexuality do so with the consent of the other party and in and of its self does no harm to the other person anymore then heterosexuality does.
I hear Christians say that a sin is a sin is a sin but I don't see any of them starting a big campaign to make divorce illegal or to get taking their lord's name in vain to no longer be covered under free speach.
Ok that last sentence was a little choppy but I'm too tired to fix it and the point comes across anyways..
Haplo
March 12th, 2009, 8:23 am
Seriously, what people do in their own bedrooms - I just don't want to know. But don't come to my kids school and tell them about it! Thanks, explaining sexual matters to my children is my job and I don't want the government deciding when they should hear about what two people do to each other, especially if they are of the same gender.
*emphasis mine* Why is this especially offensive? I keep hearing that your god holds all sin as equally wrong. I hear the same from his followers but they don't practice what they preach. By their actions I see them holding up homosexuality as a far worse sin then not remembering the sabbath or not respecting one's mother and father.
Why? Is there after all a hierarchy to sin?
buflineks
March 12th, 2009, 9:59 am
Why? Is there after all a hierarchy to sin?
Only if you're Catholic. ;):mrgreen:
AmericanSpirit
March 12th, 2009, 1:17 pm
Today I was given an assignment in which I am supposed to write a short satyrical piece on the anti-gay right belief. I go to an extremely liberal high school and the assumption is that everyone is a democrat and therefore is supportive of a homosexual's right to marry. I am one of the maybe ten(not a real number, just a guess) republicans/conservatives in my school. At the same time that I do not hate or dislike homosexuals, I have grown up in a Christian church and am anti-gay marriage. This assignment really bothered me. I was pretty much asked to bash and make fun of my own beliefs. Yes, it is important to be able to laugh at yourself but this is beyond laughing at myself. This assignment was very hard for me because while trying to take my beliefs and twisting them to make them sound crazy, I feel that I might have actually written something that could be really hurtful. It is due tomorrow and it is all written, I'm just feeling very uneasy about this and needed to get it off my chest.
A more appropriate assignment would have been to choose a side and write your satire. But then someone's poor feelings would get hurt...blah blah blah.
A little insensitivity training would be good for you kids.
lawandorder
March 12th, 2009, 1:33 pm
Your assignment is ridiculous as far as I'm concerned. I could not write a piece like that and feel good either. In fact, I probably would have done the opposite of the assignment. That is typical liberal thought on part of your teacher, the collective all must think the same. Stand strong on your beliefs.
The collective all does NOT think the same. I am a moderate liberal. I think this assignment, if true, is way over the top. No one should have to compromise their faith in this manner. Was this assignment school wide, approved? I would like to hear more about this. If it is true, then the parents should have their child excused from such assignments based on religious beliefs. I teach at the middle school level.
Harmonious
March 12th, 2009, 6:24 pm
Only if you're Catholic. ;):mrgreen:Buf! :hug:
European
March 12th, 2009, 6:26 pm
An honest question:
Why are some people uncomfortable with homosexuality?
And another question:
Is it actually true that people had to go to prison in Texas justbecause of the fact that they were gay until they changed the law in the early 2000's??:eek:
Harmonious
March 12th, 2009, 6:29 pm
*emphasis mine* Why is this especially offensive? I keep hearing that your god holds all sin as equally wrong. I hear the same from his followers but they don't practice what they preach. By their actions I see them holding up homosexuality as a far worse sin then not remembering the sabbath or not respecting one's mother and father.
Why? Is there after all a hierarchy to sin?Despite what my good friend Buf said, there is indeed a hierarchy to sin.
It is complicated to explain, but the TOP THREE sins, which a person should rather submit to being killed (if necessary) rather than commit are: murder (someone puts a gun to your head and says "Kill George, or I'll kill you." If you can't get out of the situation, it is better to say, "Fine. I won't kill George."), idol worship (self-explanatory, really), and illicit sexual practices. Illicit sexual practices involve homosexuality, rape, incest, bestiality, and things like that.
The second tier involves commandments that seem to come with death penalties in the Five Books of Moses. However, if it came to life or death choices, we are supposed to choose LIFE, rather than die for these commandments. (I'll give a few examples later, as this is not the focus of the question.)
The third tier is, more or less, everything else.
jackson Mill
March 12th, 2009, 6:35 pm
Despite what my good friend Buf said, there is indeed a hierarchy to sin.
It is complicated to explain, but the TOP THREE sins, which a person should rather submit to being killed (if necessary) rather than commit are: murder (someone puts a gun to your head and says "Kill George, or I'll kill you." If you can't get out of the situation, it is better to say, "Fine. I won't kill George."), idol worship (self-explanatory, really), and illicit sexual practices. Illicit sexual practices involve homosexuality, rape, incest, bestiality, and things like that.
The second tier involves commandments that seem to come with death penalties in the Five Books of Moses. However, if it came to life or death choices, we are supposed to choose LIFE, rather than die for these commandments. (I'll give a few examples later, as this is not the focus of the question.)
The third tier is, more or less, everything else.
Where does this hierarchy come from?
lawandorder
March 12th, 2009, 6:50 pm
Seriously, what people do in their own bedrooms - I just don't want to know. But don't come to my kids school and tell them about it! Thanks, explaining sexual matters to my children is my job and I don't want the government deciding when they should hear about what two people do to each other, especially if they are of the same gender.
I believe in the inerrancy of the Bible and I teach that to my children. The problem with homosexual marriage lies in the fact that scripture calls it an abomination. And I don't want to hear about what my male coworkers "husband" did with him (yet I do...) I dare say I never tell him what I do with my husband. If he wants to do that, that's his business, but don't share it with my children at their school!
Are your children in middle school yet? Brace yourself if they are in a public school. Eighth grade at my school, they learn just about everything in health class.
lawandorder
March 12th, 2009, 6:52 pm
Sin is sin.
lawandorder
March 12th, 2009, 6:53 pm
People are not comfortable with the visuals they get when they hear the word.
lawandorder
March 12th, 2009, 6:57 pm
You are right. The christian "right" practices selective sins.
Getty Girl
March 12th, 2009, 7:07 pm
You are right. The christian "right" practices selective sins.
everyone does.
grhayes
March 13th, 2009, 11:50 am
Today I was given an assignment in which I am supposed to write a short satyrical piece on the anti-gay right belief. I go to an extremely liberal high school and the assumption is that everyone is a democrat and therefore is supportive of a homosexual's right to marry. I am one of the maybe ten(not a real number, just a guess) republicans/conservatives in my school. At the same time that I do not hate or dislike homosexuals, I have grown up in a Christian church and am anti-gay marriage. This assignment really bothered me. I was pretty much asked to bash and make fun of my own beliefs. Yes, it is important to be able to laugh at yourself but this is beyond laughing at myself. This assignment was very hard for me because while trying to take my beliefs and twisting them to make them sound crazy, I feel that I might have actually written something that could be really hurtful. It is due tomorrow and it is all written, I'm just feeling very uneasy about this and needed to get it off my chest.
First, there is a number of legal ways to object to the assignment. My first action would have been to take it to the school principle and ask if they would like to hash this out in a court room. You probably would find the assignment dropped.
While my high school was fairly moderate and my early childhood schools were conservative College was another story. I have never had an issue with making my opinion on them.
I would start with I will never write something to that point because it is not something I believe. I do not appreciate you trying to shove words in my mouth that at some later time someone may be able to read. If they asked what your opinion was on the matter that would be fine. You could even be critical of the lefts views. But forcing you to write against your own beliefs is not acceptable.
I have never lost this issue against any school or college and I have moved around plenty.
Alone In Liberalville
March 13th, 2009, 2:10 pm
I hear Christians say that a sin is a sin is a sin but I don't see any of them starting a big campaign to make divorce illegal or to get taking their lord's name in vain to no longer be covered under free speach.
Actually, I believe you are right. We should be attacking divorce, people living together, everything being open on Sundays, and a wealth of others, too. Some of these battles were lost long ago and it became a social norm - sadly among Christians and non-Christians alike. I believe a good number of committed evangelical Christians are aware of this (I know I am), but ultimately any real changes have to come from the individual. The problem is Christians in general are being too quite and the culture has changed. I think homosexuality and abortion and at the forefront right now because these problems are still closer to "tackleable" - if that makes any sense.
Does divorce affect my kids even though I am happily married? Of course it does. They see their friends suffering from it. Maybe Christians (myself included) need to stop being so afraid of being fired and share the love of Jesus with our coworkers regardless of the price. That is what we were commanded to do - but that is not an a problem of American education, as the forum is about - that is a problem of American Christians who have had it too easy for too long and forgot we had backbones. As I said, myself included.
Alone In Liberalville
March 13th, 2009, 2:26 pm
For the record, I don't mean I want a Christian version of Sharia law, by any means. I just pray for the strength to tell anyone hurting that Jesus still loves them - and if I get fired for it, so be it. It has been duly established that the public university I work for probably would do that, too.
grhayes
March 13th, 2009, 7:21 pm
Actually, I believe you are right. We should be attacking divorce, people living together, everything being open on Sundays, and a wealth of others, too. Some of these battles were lost long ago and it became a social norm - sadly among Christians and non-Christians alike. I believe a good number of committed evangelical Christians are aware of this (I know I am), but ultimately any real changes have to come from the individual. The problem is Christians in general are being too quite and the culture has changed. I think homosexuality and abortion and at the forefront right now because these problems are still closer to "tackleable" - if that makes any sense.
Does divorce affect my kids even though I am happily married? Of course it does. They see their friends suffering from it. Maybe Christians (myself included) need to stop being so afraid of being fired and share the love of Jesus with our coworkers regardless of the price. That is what we were commanded to do - but that is not an a problem of American education, as the forum is about - that is a problem of American Christians who have had it too easy for too long and forgot we had backbones. As I said, myself included.
There is a problem when it comes to divorce. That problem is government involvement. You can't say government belongs in divorce with out having them involved in marriage. Which in my opinion they are to much already on both.
Marriage used to be a religious law before ever becoming governmental established law.
The US took the stance that a person's individual right was more important. Meaning one person could not impose their beliefs or wants on the other person.
The bible allows 2 ways only for a divorce. The first is the spouse is unfaithful, the second is the spouse is a non-believer and wishes the divorce leaving the believer no choice.
While I am not a fan of the so called separation of church and state while the left sure seems like waving that flag they sure seem to go against that idea when they want Government to allow gays to marry.
Well if Government is truly to be separated as they claim. Then government should not recognize or be involved with any religious aspect including marriage.
If we had a flat tax system were everyone paid a flat 10% we would have not need for such exemptions at all.
However, I have a lot of friends who are attorney's and claim the divorce laws changed because they did not want to force one person's morality on another.
hmmm. Hog wash we do that all the time.
We don't let people run around and steal from others.
We don't let people murder each other as they feel like.
We don't let people shoot wildly at crowds of people.
We don't let doctors do experiment on the public with no controls
We can make a very very long list of moral laws we have.
Most the laws we have on the books are moral laws. Most are derived from something on the line of the 10 commandments.
We even had laws against homosexuality until quite recent times.
What have we gotten for the removal of the moral codes we took out. We have increased divorce rates, more troubled children more crime and a host of other issues.
Of course as soon as I post this some liberal will say there is no correlation between the two. Except you can look at US census data crime data for the US and it sure seems to go neatly with each states change in laws. But yea there is no correlation one has nothing to do with the other.
Laws and locks only serve one purpose to deter the people who listen to them. Criminals and immoral people will do it anyway. Those who are moral won't even need the law to give them the hint.
The second use of a law is a means of assigning a punishment that applies to all who break the said law. It ensures equality of treatment or is supposed to.
The best part about divorce. 50% failure rate in marriages if you never been previously married. 2nd marriages are 70+ percent divorce rate. 3rd marriages 90%+ divorce rate.
There is a reason for that. Once you are married you learn expectations and so on. Even dating someone for a long time. can cause similar issues. Those expectations and problems usually get carried into the next relationships. People tend to have the bad habit of comparing who they are with to who they been with and who they envision rather than judge the person on their own merits.
My take on it I am divorced. I didn't want the divorce would rather have worked things out got her help for her issues. I ended up getting custody of our child because of her issues.
It probably would not have been bad to have some sort of law that encouraged counseling and forcing people to try and really work things out. But there are a lot of issues that go with that as well.
The real issue boils down to anytime you make any law someone is going to feel you are taking away a part of their rights. That is actually true. A law should be judge on the impact it will have on society in total. For the most part we do need to protect in the individuals rights above the majority or all their rights get trampled.
Maybe the only way to determine the value of law is actually test it.
Example: Gun control laws we can look at New york still has a high violent crime rate as do a lot of places with tight gun control laws. We can look at places like Houston and others that have a lot easier gun control laws and crime is a lot less per populace.
We can see with the divorce law being changed that divorce has sky rocketed and a host of other issues came with it.
Don't ask for a link to a specific page citing the statistics you are going to have to do the same thing I did. Go to the US census bureau and request records, contact the FBI and get records from them and then contact various other agencies. Then look on state and federal law sites and get the changes dates of change and so on. It takes work.
Alone In Liberalville
March 13th, 2009, 7:33 pm
Isn't every law, to some extent, a moral law? Even traffic laws are basically saying "wait your turn". I'm not sure the two can really be separated.
AmericanSpirit
March 14th, 2009, 11:24 am
Isn't every law, to some extent, a moral law? Even traffic laws are basically saying "wait your turn". I'm not sure the two can really be separated.
No those laws are for EVERYONE's safety, not made to inconvenience one group who most people think are "icky".
angelicmadrigal
March 14th, 2009, 12:51 pm
Isn't every law, to some extent, a moral law? Even traffic laws are basically saying "wait your turn". I'm not sure the two can really be separated.
Let's just say that were true. ou have to start drawing the line somewhere.
For instance no one should try and make a PRIVATE bussiness be closed on a day when it WANTS to be open. That's the bussinesses perogative, not the government's.
Harmonious
March 15th, 2009, 8:17 pm
Where does this hierarchy come from?
Jewish law. I would be hard pressed to give more, because I don't know.
ben41281
March 15th, 2009, 9:54 pm
An honest question:
Why are some people uncomfortable with homosexuality?
Invalid question. I'm not uncomfortable with homosexuality, I do believe it's a sin as the Bible says it is. I don't believe that there is any right to marry, gay or straight. Sorry, just my opinion.
ben41281
March 15th, 2009, 10:04 pm
And another question:
Is it actually true that people had to go to prison in Texas justbecause of the fact that they were gay until they changed the law in the early 2000's??:eek:
No it's not true. Sodomy is illeagl in a number of states though, and one could go to jail for it.
2jobteacher
March 16th, 2009, 12:23 am
I hope your teacher gave you a scoring guide. If not, next time, ask for a scoring guide up front. If the teacher doesn't have one, then ask what you will be graded on. Some assignments are purposely made to go against your beliefs to make you think and in your case feel about a position you are not comfortable with or feel the opposite way.
You have a right to tell your teacher you are very uncomfortable with this topic and please assign you another one.
I do it when a student comes to me (in my case it is usually a parent) and I cannot convice them that the assignment will help them (their child) learn to think and meet state requirements.
It is good a lot of students had and problem with this and didn't keep quiet about it. Conservative people tend to keep it inside. Speak up, what is the worst that can happen??? I keep quiet too much and have been told on many occasions I need speak my mind.
¿Como?
March 24th, 2009, 1:14 pm
Today I was given an assignment in which I am supposed to write a short satyrical piece on the anti-gay right belief. I go to an extremely liberal high school and the assumption is that everyone is a democrat and therefore is supportive of a homosexual's right to marry. I am one of the maybe ten(not a real number, just a guess) republicans/conservatives in my school. At the same time that I do not hate or dislike homosexuals, I have grown up in a Christian church and am anti-gay marriage. This assignment really bothered me. I was pretty much asked to bash and make fun of my own beliefs. Yes, it is important to be able to laugh at yourself but this is beyond laughing at myself. This assignment was very hard for me because while trying to take my beliefs and twisting them to make them sound crazy, I feel that I might have actually written something that could be really hurtful. It is due tomorrow and it is all written, I'm just feeling very uneasy about this and needed to get it off my chest.
SO ... you're given lemons, make lemonade.
You have a wonderful forum (of at least your teacher) in which to express your beliefs:
It is my opinion that liberals (and especially homosexual liberals) devolve immediately to name-calling and hate-rhetoric the moment a conservative makes compelling sense.
Imagin yourself a liberal and listen to your most compelling arguments as a conservative. Then write those down along with your "liberal" ad hominem and other rhetoric.
Once you've got a "liberal" you using fallacious argument against your compelling conservative viewpoint, it is only a short step from there to making it satirical.
If I understand you correctly, your teacher did not say you have to show the conservative viewpoint in a negative light: Only that you have to write a satyrical piece ABOUT the conservative viewpoint (and if the teacher challenges you, you can raise this point to him or her).
Start with something like:
[quote]I was walking downtown one day when my senses were accosted by the ad hominem attacks of a wise and enlightened liberal.
I delayed my errand long enough to understand what the commotion was about, for it very much was a commotion. The very successful and conservative businessman was trying to tell the liberal that homosexuals have all the same rights as heterosexual married people in states like California, but the liberal guy didn't seem to be hearing him.
Conservativeman even quoted from California's Family Code sections 297 and 297.5 [note: You'll have to look these up to make sure I'm citing the proper sections], but liberalguy had already diverted down the rabbit trail of "well, but, ah, er, they don't have the same SOCIAL SECURITY rights." It appeared to me Conservativeman had heard that argument before: He called it "moving the goalposts." Then, he reminded liberalguy that Social Security is a federal program and they were talking about homosexuals in California having the same (state) rights as heterosexuals: They simply have to register for a domestic partnership instead of a marriage."
....and so it goes. You can have a lot of fun with this. OH, and when you complete it, post it in here so we can see what/how you did.
Haplo
March 25th, 2009, 7:12 am
The piece calls for a satyrical take, not satyrical and patronizing.
¿Como?
March 25th, 2009, 7:29 pm
The piece calls for a satyrical take, not satyrical and patronizing.
Teacher did not exclude patronizing.
Haplo
March 26th, 2009, 7:38 am
Teacher did not exclude patronizing.True. So you decided to just throw that in as a bonus eh?
¿Como?
March 28th, 2009, 9:17 pm
True. So you decided to just throw that in as a bonus eh?
Hey: I'm a giver! :whistle:
What can I say.
grhayes
March 29th, 2009, 3:47 am
No those laws are for EVERYONE's safety, not made to inconvenience one group who most people think are "icky".
Well safety apparently has little to do with society and laws in the US.
We know drinking and driving kills more people than guns but we haven't outlawed alcohol recently.
We know that children of divorced parents are 25% more likely to end up doing drugs, dropping out of school and even suicide. that does seem to bother us.
We also know women who have abortions also have high statistics of depression, and other mental illness and suicide.
We keep telling people we are going to protect their community by taking away everyone's guns. Except we for get to tell them their are not enough police to get to them in a timely manor so the likelihood is when the cops arrive they will be raped, murdered or beaten to a bloody pull and maybe crippled for the rest of their lives. We also for get to point out criminals are criminals because they don't obey laws and just cause they can't by a gun around the corner doesn't mean they can't get one. in fact taking away guns can lead to them using more devastating devices. In fact we have a president who wants to prosecute anyone who attempts to defend themselves.
All laws are supposed to be of moral base for the common good of the community. We have corrupt politicians who like to twist laws and special interest groups who want to complain because they want to be able to do something that really should not be done when you look at the over all effect it has on the community.
Yea, so my opinion is USA is in the pile of mess it is today because of each representative and person that though it was ok to compromise. You reap what you sew.
RickRhetoric
March 29th, 2009, 10:31 am
Cooperate and graduate!
Praise homosexuals to the max, almost to the point of obvious sarcasm. They can't fault you for that.
You live in a socialist country. When in America do as the socialists and Democrats do.
Learning to swallow your pride in high school will also be good training and practice for when you go to college.
Pretend you're a Democrat. Use it as a cover for status and action. The staff, faculty and all your fellow comrade students will love you.
Syfted
March 29th, 2009, 10:56 pm
Today I was given an assignment in which I am supposed to write a short satyrical piece on the anti-gay right belief. I go to an extremely liberal high school and the assumption is that everyone is a democrat and therefore is supportive of a homosexual's right to marry. I am one of the maybe ten(not a real number, just a guess) republicans/conservatives in my school. At the same time that I do not hate or dislike homosexuals, I have grown up in a Christian church and am anti-gay marriage. This assignment really bothered me. I was pretty much asked to bash and make fun of my own beliefs. Yes, it is important to be able to laugh at yourself but this is beyond laughing at myself. This assignment was very hard for me because while trying to take my beliefs and twisting them to make them sound crazy, I feel that I might have actually written something that could be really hurtful. It is due tomorrow and it is all written, I'm just feeling very uneasy about this and needed to get it off my chest.
Can we have the exact text of the assignment? Your teacher is forcing you to take one opinion and would fail you for taking an opposing opinion?
Army Wife
March 29th, 2009, 11:18 pm
Are your children in middle school yet? Brace yourself if they are in a public school. Eighth grade at my school, they learn just about everything in health class.
Only if you as the parent give permission for them to be in said health class. We did not allow our daughter to be in any of the school provided sex ed classes (of which I infer you are referring to...right)