Do Some Atheists Post In This Forum To Try & Chip Away At Religion(s)?

[Stars&Stripes]

or rather, chip away at some or various religions?

I'm not saying that even one atheist is, but if any atheist is here - in a religion forum of all places - to chip away at any religion, try to deconstruct various religious texts' claims, undermine belief in the existence of God and so on, they are in the wrong place. If any atheist were here for any of these reasons, they should ask themselves, and be asked: is this a religion forum, or an anti-religion forum?

Perhaps an atheist forum somewhere else would be more to their liking? Just asking, nothing more.

In any case, we should watch to see if some threads (OP's) here are by their very nature anti-religion and at least question their place in this forum.

Just some thoughts...

Anyway, concerning the thread title: Evangelical Atheists/Evangelical Atheism?

[biggles53]

or rather, chip away at some or various religions?

I'm not saying that even one atheist is, but if any atheist is here - in a religion forum of all places - to chip away at any religion, try to deconstruct various religious texts' claims, undermine belief in the existence of God and so on, they are in the wrong place. If any atheist were here for any of these reasons, they should ask themselves, and be asked: is this a religion forum, or an anti-religion forum?

Perhaps an atheist forum somewhere else would be more to their liking? Just asking, nothing more.

In any case, we should watch to see if some threads (OP's) here are by their very nature anti-religion and at least question their place in this forum.

Just some thoughts...

Anyway, concerning the thread title: Evangelical Atheists/Evangelical Atheism?

Possibly.

But isn't this the approach taken by many of the great religions of the world? To enquire, to test, to "deconstruct? Didn't the RC church have (has?) a section within it to act as 'devil's advocate' - a means of challenging accepted dogma? Aren't we taught by the religious that such a process makes the faith stronger?

[captusa]

or rather, chip away at some or various religions?

I'm not saying that even one atheist is, but if any atheist is here - in a religion forum of all places - to chip away at any religion, try to deconstruct various religious texts' claims, undermine belief in the existence of God and so on, they are in the wrong place. If any atheist were here for any of these reasons, they should ask themselves, and be asked: is this a religion forum, or an anti-religion forum?

Perhaps an atheist forum somewhere else would be more to their liking? Just asking, nothing more.

In any case, we should watch to see if some threads (OP's) here are by their very nature anti-religion and at least question their place in this forum.

Just some thoughts...

Anyway, concerning the thread title: Evangelical Atheists/Evangelical Atheism?

The subject of the forum is religion.
Why should the forum be limited to just pro comments ?
From a historical point of view religion has been responsible for a great deal of good and a great deal of evil.
Is there any reason to omit information pertaining to either ?

Science is often attacked in the RF and many intelligent Theists defend science but should Atheists be excluded from the discussion ?
Also the topic of religion and rights and the Constitution is brought up in the religion forum.
If it is appropriate for the religion forum no opinions should be barred.
The place of religion in our country.

[Lie Sniper]

or rather, chip away at some or various religions?

I'm not saying that even one atheist is, but if any atheist is here - in a religion forum of all places - to chip away at any religion, try to deconstruct various religious texts' claims, undermine belief in the existence of God and so on, they are in the wrong place. If any atheist were here for any of these reasons, they should ask themselves, and be asked: is this a religion forum, or an anti-religion forum?

Perhaps an atheist forum somewhere else would be more to their liking? Just asking, nothing more.

In any case, we should watch to see if some threads (OP's) here are by their very nature anti-religion and at least question their place in this forum.

Just some thoughts...

Anyway, concerning the thread title: Evangelical Atheists/Evangelical Atheism?

Did we already have this discussion?:think:

[merryAtheist]

But I thought it was patriotic to question.

[TaylorW65]

I am not an atheist I am a very liberal unorthodox Christian. However, I think if anyone is strong in their faith I would think they should be able to defend and articulate their faith against any challengers.

In other words why should an athiest be a threat to any believer?

[Stars&Stripes]

Possibly.

But isn't this the approach taken by many of the great religions of the world? To enquire, to test, to "deconstruct? Didn't the RC church have (has?) a section within it to act as 'devil's advocate' - a means of challenging accepted dogma? Aren't we taught by the religious that such a process makes the faith stronger?

But do some (atheists) use what you say ("such a process") to make any faith stronger - or weaker? What is their goal, to make it stronger or weaker? Christians desire to make the Christian faith stronger, not weaker. Muslims desire to make the Islamic faith stronger, not weaker. The same for Buddhists, Hindus, and so on.

While Christians, Muslims, Hindus, and so on, may challenge others concerning their various religious beliefs, their goal in and of itself isn't anti-religion or anti-belief in God. They challenge, but none of these are anti-religion or anti-belief in God. That would be self-destructive.

[Chuangtzu]

A lot of trouble to cover, off the top of my head, Tim, capt, biggles, merry, markd, Pudge, Tomb, myself and one or two other active atheists I've probably missed.

Two threads for this? Really?

[Stars&Stripes]

But I thought it was patriotic to question.

Apples and oranges...but...

For libs concerning Bush's administration policies, yes. But libs threw that out the window when Obama was elected. It is now obstructionism to dissent against Obama's policies.

You brought up patriotism, not me...

[Chuangtzu]

Just remember, admitted atheists are not covered by the RF TOS. These threads are invitations to ban bait.

[Stars&Stripes]

Did we already have this discussion?:think:

The other thread asked a blanket question: Why do atheists come to this forum?

I, though, ask a specific question - if atheists come to this forum to try and chip away at religions, religious beliefs, a belief in God, etc.

[Chuangtzu]

The other thread asked a blanket question: Why do atheists come to this forum?

I, though, ask a specific question - if atheists come to this forum to try and chip away at religions, religious beliefs, a belief in God, etc.

Just remember, admitted atheists are not covered by the RF TOS. These threads are invitations to ban bait.

[Stars&Stripes]

Just remember, admitted atheists are not covered by the RF TOS. These threads are invitations to ban bait.

Ban bait? Puhleeze. Those here who aren't atheists are free to answer this question, with no fear of being banned. Even atheists here can say that they think it is possible that some atheists here do try to undermine religion, a belief in God and so on, and without any fear of being banned.

Oh stop it.

Please stop with the false accusations.

You know as well as I do that any atheist whose goal is to undermine religion, religious beliefs, deconstruct religious texts, a belief in God and so on has no place here. Not saying that any atheist here has this is mind, but there isn't anything wrong with people keeping an eye open for this here on this forum.

[RayMan]

It is my understanding that all posters in the RF are required to address and respond to all other posters in a respectful fashion regardless of whether they are a person of a particular faith or a person of no faith.

All it takes is simply addressing and responding to one another in a polite fashion. What is so hard about being polite folks? It is not like any of us are going to change anyone else's position or beliefs. I would think we should all realize that by now.

"Come on people now, smile on your brother. Everybody get together, try to love one another right now."

If you can't respond to someone politely don't respond at all. Come on, our moms taught us that before we went to kindergarten.

[orbitaldecay]

Do Some Atheists Post In This Forum To Try & Chip Away At Religion(s)?

And some believers try and chip-away at other religions, also.

If non-believers can discuss the topic at hand, respectfully, they are certainly allowed to. In fact, I enjoy and encourage their presence and insight.

[Stars&Stripes]

And some believers try and chip-away at other religions, also.

If non-believers can discuss the topic at hand, respectfully, they are certainly allowed to. In fact, I enjoy and encourage their presence and insight.

Pretty much what I have already said.

People of other religions challenge Christian beliefs and vice versa.

But, none of them are anti-religion or anti-belief in God. That - in the end - would undermine them, too.

It is entirely different when 1.) a person who has a specific faith/religion challenges another person of a different faith/religion concerning their beliefs and when 2.) an atheist tries to challenge any religious person/person of faiths beliefs. 1.) isn't anti-religion/anti-belief in God, while 2.) is.

[Chuangtzu]

(snipped)

You know as well as I do that any atheist whose goal is to undermine religion, religious beliefs, deconstruct religious texts, a belief in God and so on has no place here. Not saying that any atheist here has this is mind, but there isn't anything wrong with people keeping an eye open for this here on this forum.

Why ask the question when you've already determined the answer. Precisely why this and the other thread are invitations to seppuku.

[Marleysdaddy]

or rather, chip away at some or various religions?

I'm not saying that even one atheist is, but if any atheist is here - in a religion forum of all places - to chip away at any religion, try to deconstruct various religious texts' claims, undermine belief in the existence of God and so on, they are in the wrong place. If any atheist were here for any of these reasons, they should ask themselves, and be asked: is this a religion forum, or an anti-religion forum?

Perhaps an atheist forum somewhere else would be more to their liking? Just asking, nothing more.

In any case, we should watch to see if some threads (OP's) here are by their very nature anti-religion and at least question their place in this forum.

Just some thoughts...

Anyway, concerning the thread title: Evangelical Atheists/Evangelical Atheism?

You should welcome the gadflies...everyone can always use some brushing up on their apologetics

[Tim]

Pretty much what I have already said.

People of other religions challenge Christian beliefs and vice versa.

But, none of them are anti-religion or anti-belief in God. That - in the end - would undermine them, too.

It is entirely different when 1.) a person who has a specific faith/religion challenges another person of a different faith/religion concerning their beliefs and when 2.) an atheist tries to challenge any religious person/person of faiths beliefs. 1.) isn't anti-religion/anti-belief in God, while 2.) is.

Allow me to point out the obvious.... a lack of belief in something does not equal hostility toward that thing.

All of my best friends (and my immediate family other than my son and wife) are believers.

Just as one shouldn't put all believers into one "box" it is equally disingenuous to do so with all unbelievers.

[Amallek]

Ah ye of little faith.

Consider it your opportunity to follow the Great Commission.

[Greyclouds]

or rather, chip away at some or various religions?

I'm not saying that even one atheist is, but if any atheist is here - in a religion forum of all places - to chip away at any religion, try to deconstruct various religious texts' claims, undermine belief in the existence of God and so on, they are in the wrong place. If any atheist were here for any of these reasons, they should ask themselves, and be asked: is this a religion forum, or an anti-religion forum?

Perhaps an atheist forum somewhere else would be more to their liking? Just asking, nothing more.

In any case, we should watch to see if some threads (OP's) here are by their very nature anti-religion and at least question their place in this forum.

Just some thoughts...

Anyway, concerning the thread title: Evangelical Atheists/Evangelical Atheism?

Throughout history, religious faith has been synonymous with human culture. Granted, culture does not always equal religious faith and vice versa, but the two have overlapping influences.

It's always good to grab some culture and learn something new about another person's ethos.

I mean, where else on the internet can you learn new things about the Mormon faith in a "point-counterpoint" fashion? I certainly have!

[captusa]

Ban bait? Puhleeze. Those here who aren't atheists are free to answer this question, with no fear of being banned. Even atheists here can say that they think it is possible that some atheists here do try to undermine religion, a belief in God and so on, and without any fear of being banned.

Oh stop it.

Please stop with the false accusations.

You know as well as I do that any atheist whose goal is to undermine religion, religious beliefs, deconstruct religious texts, a belief in God and so on has no place here. Not saying that any atheist here has this is mind, but there isn't anything wrong with people keeping an eye open for this here on this forum.

I have yet to see an Atheist on this forum imply a consequence for disagreeing with their point of view.
Have you noticed any Theists stating or implying eternal consequences forr disagreeing with them ?

[Buffalo]

or rather, chip away at some or various religions?

I'm not saying that even one atheist is, but if any atheist is here - in a religion forum of all places - to chip away at any religion, try to deconstruct various religious texts' claims, undermine belief in the existence of God and so on, they are in the wrong place. If any atheist were here for any of these reasons, they should ask themselves, and be asked: is this a religion forum, or an anti-religion forum?

Perhaps an atheist forum somewhere else would be more to their liking? Just asking, nothing more.

In any case, we should watch to see if some threads (OP's) here are by their very nature anti-religion and at least question their place in this forum.

Just some thoughts...

Anyway, concerning the thread title: Evangelical Atheists/Evangelical Atheism?
Seeing as how this is the religion forum, we discuss various aspects of religion (organized and otherwise) and faith. There are threads to discuss shared beliefs and fellowship. There are threads to help answer others questions aboput your faith or denomination. There are threads seeking to clarify the meaning behind various passages and themes of religious texts.
It 's pretty obvious that of all the people who are religious, some of them, if not most of them, will end up being wrong. This statement holds just as true when you add atheists into the mix.
In the end, there have been atheist or others who have ventured into the forum to do just as you ask. They are quickly shown the door. The ones who stick around provide very good additions to many of the threads in the RF and I think you'll find they stay out of discussions of fellowship etc.