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Remus Lupin
March 9th, 2009, 11:57 pm
I was just watching an excellent movie called "The Hiding Place". It's a true story about a Christian family from Holland during WW2 who hid jews from the Nazis.
The "Ten Boom" family were all gifted watchmakers. When they saw what the Nazi's were doing, they starting hiding jews from them.
They as strong Christians knew what the Nazis were doing was wrong.
Sadly most other Christians turned a blind eye. Even their own pastor told their father flat out it how foolish it was to wear the star of david on his clothing like the jews were being forced to do at that time. The father Jasper Ten Boom told his pastor it is wrong for someone who a follower of Christ to stand by and watch others suffer like this.
Later when the jews were being deported to death camps, The family starting hiding Jews knowing that they themselves risk certain death if caught.
Sadly that came true when the Nazis learned of what was going on and arrested the whole family.
Later most of the "Ten Boom" family involved was killed.
Corrie Ten Boom and her sister Betsy who were still alive were sent to Ravensbruk Concentration Camp.
What they suffered was beyond horrific. Both sisters starting witnessing other prisoners while they stayed in that prison.
Betsy would later die in the camp. A few weeks after her death, Corrie was released from Ravensbruk.
A few years later Corrie Ten Boom had to chance to meet with one of the female guards who was among the most brutal of them all.
Corrie before hand didn't think she could muster enough to forgive her.
She prayed and prayed and finally she met her face to face.As she wrote in her book 'The Hiding place":
"or a long moment we grasped each other's hands, the former guard and the former prisoner. I had never known God's love so intensely as I did then."
She forgave her right there.


Here is something else to ponder. The majority of those who helped the jews in Nazi occupied countries were evengalicals Christians themselves.

Here are my questions.
1. If you were in Nazi Germany at the time and seen what was gonig on, would you of done the same as what the family did under risking being killed?
2. How did you see christians including the pastor himself turning a blind-eye when this was all happening?
3. Could you forgive someone who was dispicable as the guard Corrie shook hands with was?

vir doctus
March 9th, 2009, 11:59 pm
Read the book and know what really happened.

Remus Lupin
March 10th, 2009, 12:01 am
Read the book and know what really happened.

You mean the Bible or "The Hiding Place"?

vir doctus
March 10th, 2009, 12:04 am
You mean the Bible or "The Hiding Place"?

Both - but I was thinking of 'The Hiding Place' in that post.

Remus Lupin
March 10th, 2009, 12:10 am
Both - but I was thinking of 'The Hiding Place' in that post.

I was justing asking others what they would done if they were in Nazi Germany at the time and seeing what was going on.

I will say this. If I was living in Nazi Germany at the time and seeing jews being sent to their deaths, I can't honest say "No question I would of help them". I can't say I would't help either. With me, it would be a toss up to what I would of done.
As far as Christians turning a blind-eye, I think they were either scared, Didn't want to believe the Nazis were commiting these horrible crime or both.
I gues I could understand why. It doesn't make it right, but as we learn from history, we humans tend to look the other way if it didn't affect us.

vir doctus
March 10th, 2009, 12:16 am
I was justing asking others what they would done if they were in Nazi Germany at the time and seeing what was going on.

I will say this. If I was living in Nazi Germany at the time and seeing jews being sent to their deaths, I can't honest say "No question I would of help them". I can't say I would't help either. With me, it would be a toss up to what I would of done.
As far as Christians turning a blind-eye, I think they were either scared, Didn't want to believe the Nazis were commiting these horrible crime or both.
I gues I could understand why. It doesn't make it right, but as we learn from history, we humans tend to look the other way if it didn't affect us.

Trust me, read the book; I think you will know without a doubt that you would do what God calls you to.

hillplus
March 10th, 2009, 12:31 am
Just watched a documentary about Helmuth Hubener, who was the youngest person to be executed by the Nazi's. There is a film being made now about Hubener, starring Haley Joel Osment.

Hubener was only seventeen years old. I have children that age. I hope that I would be as brave.

TaylorW65
March 10th, 2009, 2:37 am
Here are my questions.
1. If you were in Nazi Germany at the time and seen what was gonig on, would you of done the same as what the family did under risking being killed?
2. How did you see christians including the pastor himself turning a blind-eye when this was all happening?
3. Could you forgive someone who was dispicable as the guard Corrie shook hands with was?

I have always been inspired by what Corrie and her sister did. They really demonstrated the love of Christ.

On to the questions.


1. I would hope I would act the same way. I believe I would.

2. My spiritual belief is that I am not to judge another human being about such a matter. That is God's job. Those were dark and frightening times to live in and fear can be powerful so who am I to judge them?

3. I would hope God could enable me to forgive the guard. I would want to forgive but I am human and it would be difficult.

Tim
March 10th, 2009, 10:08 am
Read the book and know what really happened.

I'll second that... the movie was nice but the book is far more revealing and, in my opinion, more inspiring for people of all faiths and/or no faith.

Hadassah
March 10th, 2009, 11:01 am
Here are my questions.
1. If you were in Nazi Germany at the time and seen what was gonig on, would you of done the same as what the family did under risking being killed?
2. How did you see christians including the pastor himself turning a blind-eye when this was all happening?
3. Could you forgive someone who was dispicable as the guard Corrie shook hands with was?


#1 I hope I would. I have participated in sit-ins in front of abortion clinics, knowing I would go to jail, and helped a man who was shot on the street (though my friends stopped me at first because we didn't know if the bullets were definitely stopped. Then I snuck out. :mrgreen: ), but neither is quite the same thing.

#2 Fear is powerful. I cannot judge them.

#3 I could forgive by God's Grace only. On my own, no.