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byzantine catholic
March 9th, 2009, 8:30 pm
And a believer in Christ that is a saint?:question:
byzantine catholic
March 9th, 2009, 8:43 pm
There is no difference. A human being is a human being.:)And notice how I ask a question to Roman Catholics!:rolleyes:
archangelo
March 9th, 2009, 8:50 pm
Are you looking for someone to do your catechism class homework for you? According to your screen name, you should know the answer. :snooty:
Dual867PowerMac
March 9th, 2009, 8:51 pm
Maybe you should post the question on a Catholic board. ;)
vir doctus
March 9th, 2009, 8:53 pm
Are you looking for someone to do your catechism class homework for you? According to your screen name, you should know the answer. :snooty:
One must remember what one is taught... :think:
byzantine catholic
March 9th, 2009, 8:55 pm
Are you looking for someone to do your catechism class homework for you? According to your screen name, you should know the answer. :snooty:Yes and I am also 16 years old so cut me a break!:rolleyes:
vir doctus
March 9th, 2009, 8:56 pm
Yes and I am also 16 years old so cut me a break!:rolleyes:
Poor excuse for not doing your own research.
gabbykittkatt
March 9th, 2009, 9:03 pm
Canonization (or, canonisation) is the act by which a particular Christian church declares a deceased person to be a saint (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint) and is included in the canon, or list, of recognized saints. Originally, individuals were recognised as saints without any formal process.
In the Roman Catholic Church (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Catholic_Church) and the Eastern Catholic Churches (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Catholic_Churches) in communion with Rome[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canonization#cite_note-0)[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canonization#cite_note-1), the act of canonization is reserved to the Holy See (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_See) and occurs at the conclusion of a long process requiring extensive proof that the person proposed for canonization lived and died in such an exemplary and holy way that he or she is worthy to be recognized as a saint. The church's official recognition of sanctity implies that the persons are now in heavenly glory, that they may be publicly invoked and mentioned officially in the liturgy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liturgy) of the church, most especially in the Litany of the Saints (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Litany_of_the_Saints) in the Canon of the Mass (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_of_the_Mass). Other Christian churches still follow the older practice (see, for instance, below (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canonization#Eastern_Orthodox_Practice.E2.80.94Glo rification)
In Christianity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity), veneration (Latin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin) veneratio, Greek (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_language) δουλια dulia), or veneration of saints, is a special act of honoring a saint (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint): a dead person who has been identified as singular in the traditions of the religion. It is practiced by the Eastern Orthodox Church (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Orthodox_Church), the Roman Catholic Church (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Catholic_Church), and some members of the Anglican Communion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglican_Communion). Veneration is often shown outwardly by respectfully bowing or making the sign of the cross (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sign_of_the_cross) before a saint's icon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icon), relics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relic), or statue. These items may also be kissed.
Mikko
March 9th, 2009, 9:04 pm
And notice how I ask a question to Roman Catholics!:rolleyes:
And notice how anybody can opine in this forum?:rolleyes::)
RayMan
March 9th, 2009, 9:07 pm
And a believer in Christ that is a saint?:question:
One has been given special recognition by the Catholic and/or Orthodox Church and the other hasn't.
byzantine catholic
March 9th, 2009, 9:09 pm
And notice how anybody can opine in this forum?:rolleyes::)Calm down man I was jus joking!:D
terri910
March 9th, 2009, 10:04 pm
(When people continually fail to recognize when you are joking, it might be a signpost to check and see if you are sending out the right signals.)
Why don't you ask your priest, byz?
RayMan
March 9th, 2009, 10:06 pm
And notice how anybody can opine in this forum?:rolleyes::)
I should've copyrighted "opine." ©
Now every Tom, Dick and Mikko will be using it.
RayMan
March 9th, 2009, 10:08 pm
Yes and I am also 16 years old so cut me a break!:rolleyes:
Actually it should be either:
"Give me a break," or "cut me some slack." :angel:
terri910
March 9th, 2009, 11:16 pm
Actually it should be either:
"Give me a break," or "cut me some slack." :angel:
Interesting how the details of things can stick with you.
I always remember being corrected on the phrase (too often used) "I can't help but think...."
I was told, you either say "I cannot but think" or "I can't help thinking" but you do NOT say "I can't help but think." I don't remember the reason why, though!
byzantine catholic
March 9th, 2009, 11:19 pm
Actually it should be either:
"Give me a break," or "cut me some slack." :angel::mad: