Green Technology is Economic War Against Our Enemies

[rabbieric]

Hannity and the rest of the bunch have been driving me insane talking down Green power. Look at what this convention center did in Atlantic City (http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/03/05/solar.roof.atlantic.city/index.html).
They are saving close to 5,000 barrels of oil a year from being purchased from America's enemies. Israelis use solar panel almost exclusively to heat their water. Why are conservatives objecting so hard core to it. Yes the environmental lobby can be nut jobs. But this is a rare case where conservative and liberal agendas should be arriving at the same conclusion.

[CHUG]

Hannity and the rest of the bunch have been driving me insane talking down Green power. Look at what this convention center did in Atlantic City (http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/03/05/solar.roof.atlantic.city/index.html).
They are saving close to 5,000 barrels of oil a year from being purchased from America's enemies. Israelis use solar panel almost exclusively to heat their water. Why are conservatives objecting so hard core to it. Yes the environmental lobby can be nut jobs. But this is a rare case where conservative and liberal agendas should be arriving at the same conclusion.

They use solar panels to heat their water in many Turkish Hotels

The result is that you can't get a hot shower first thing in the morning, 'cos the sun wasn't shinning overnight.

[Oddball]

Green Technology is Economic War Against Our Enemies
Yeah....If you consider your "enemies" to be oil, natural gas and coal workers.

[Ravenmad]

Hannity and the rest of the bunch have been driving me insane talking down Green power. Look at what this convention center did in Atlantic City (http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/03/05/solar.roof.atlantic.city/index.html).
They are saving close to 5,000 barrels of oil a year from being purchased from America's enemies. Israelis use solar panel almost exclusively to heat their water. Why are conservatives objecting so hard core to it. Yes the environmental lobby can be nut jobs. But this is a rare case where conservative and liberal agendas should be arriving at the same conclusion.


We are not against clean green energy. We are against destroying the economy at a break neck pace for it.

[TheFallGuy]

Hannity and the rest of the bunch have been driving me insane talking down Green power. Look at what this convention center did in Atlantic City (http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/03/05/solar.roof.atlantic.city/index.html).
They are saving close to 5,000 barrels of oil a year from being purchased from America's enemies. Israelis use solar panel almost exclusively to heat their water. Why are conservatives objecting so hard core to it. Yes the environmental lobby can be nut jobs. But this is a rare case where conservative and liberal agendas should be arriving at the same conclusion.

I think you completely misunderstand Sean Hannity's position. I've heard him state that he doesn't mind alternative energy (solar, wind, etc.). What he has a problem with, as do I, is the myopic thought that green technology is the ONLY way to go. The "green" energy is not sufficient enough to meet our energy demands for the near or distant future. We need to explore ALL our options and Obama is curtailing what we currently use to jack our gas prices back up. Wonder if by the end of this summer we'll have $4/gallon gasoline again.

Solar power is nice, if the sun shines all the time where you live. But if you have several cloudy days, what do you do?

Wind power is nice, unless you're a bat, bird, or other flying creature caught in the propeller blades. Additionally, the way they are currently designed they are inefficient. If the wind drops below a certain speed, no energy; if the wind rises over a certain speed, no energy. The wind is not constant nor does it come from one direction, causing severe damage and maintenance problems. (Oh and the environmentalists are against this, too.) There are other types of wind electric generators that are more efficient, smaller, and do not have the same problems. I'll have to remember where I found it, but they are more of a ball type thing that can generate electricity at lower wind speeds or greater wind speeds, regardless of direction.

Currently, the only viable option to meet our escalating energy demands is nuclear. Environuts were against it, but are finally coming to realize their propaganda was all wrong.

We need to explore ALL our options. Not just the so-called green technology (which by the way tends to consume more oil to produce and generate electricity, go figure).

[E7ALR]

Making all of our energy costs artificially more expensive, while making more oil available and less expensive for the rest of the world, because our demand dropped solely because of artificially added cost is not economic war on our enemies. It is making economic war on ourselves.

Our enemies won't mind. The cheaper oil will eventually spur expansion and demand in the rest of the world. All this blind rush to so-called greenness will only make us less competative in the world.

[rabbieric]

I'm willing to concede short term that traditional energy sources must be utilized. I happen to be a big fan of nuclear myself, and was pleased by McCain's promise to update the technology to make it more of a viable and efficient option. My message is more geared to the conservatives themselves. Fine government policy should be diversified. But what about your own home use? Why not personally put up panels on your own home and have a little propeller at the top of your house. Even a solar attic fan will save some serious cash. This was the primary crux of my argument

[.daniel]

Renewable energy is the future of energy. America getting a leg up on research would effectively make us the Middle East of energy technology twenty-five+ years from now. With that being said...

-Offshore drilling would employ countless thousands on the rigs, in the refineries, everywhere.

-It would drop the cost of gas, which would benefit consumers and businesses especially.


This would begin the process of weaning us off of foreign oil while securing our energy needs until we get economical, affordable, efficient renewable energy sources.

...but that's stupid, of course.

[crux]

Renewable energy is the future of energy. America getting a leg up on research would effectively make us the Middle East of energy technology twenty-five+ years from now. With that being said...

-Offshore drilling would employ countless thousands on the rigs, in the refineries, everywhere.

-It would drop the cost of gas, which would benefit consumers and businesses especially.


This would begin the process of weaning us off of foreign oil while securing our energy needs until we get economical, affordable, efficient renewable energy sources.

...but that's stupid, of course.

America getting a leg up on research would effectively make us the Middle East of energy technology twenty-five+ years from now.



That's just not true

[.daniel]

That's just not true


That's just not true.








But really, why? If we were to be ahead of other countries in the areas of advanced renewable technology, we'd have a considerable leg up in what is going to become a very important and very booming industry.

[PhantomPholly]

Hannity and the rest of the bunch have been driving me insane talking down Green power. Look at what this convention center did in Atlantic City (http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/03/05/solar.roof.atlantic.city/index.html).
They are saving close to 5,000 barrels of oil a year from being purchased from America's enemies. Israelis use solar panel almost exclusively to heat their water. Why are conservatives objecting so hard core to it. Yes the environmental lobby can be nut jobs. But this is a rare case where conservative and liberal agendas should be arriving at the same conclusion.

Another newbie proclaiming all Conservatives to be anti-green?

:rolleyes:

I don't know ANYONE who is against better technology for a cleaner world. America has nearly the cleanest energy in the world save Iceland (which is 100% geothermal, due to good fortune and hot rocks).

What we are against is stupid legislation and false claims of impending disaster to justify yet more taxation to be used to fund - the Useless Nitwits.

Oh, and we are also against stupid people who falsely claim that Conservatives are against the environment, too...

[rabbieric]

All I'm saying is at the same time we bash the Obama administration we should still be telling are own to get solar for their own homes.
And Laura Ingrams bashing people who get hybrids I think is absurd even if it's possibly misguided it's a good step toward encouraging research into more efficient means of transportation.
I think Reagan was also off when he took down Carter's solar panels off the roof. Once they were there what was the big deal in leaving them alone?
I do remember my days in the Caravan in Israel where the water hadn't gotten hot yet. But when they improve battery technology that issue should stop itself.

[PhantomPholly]

I would have a solar roof today - except that my neighborhood association has prohibited them.

It is fascinating to me how it is the Liberal greenies who are most opposing any move (wind farms, solar panels, geothermal plants) to gain energy independence.

Lemmings.

If you are REALLY serious about controlling emissions, start with the one that causes MORE PEOPLE.

[Gengar]

5,000 barrels a year.. WOWWW! AMAZING!

How about we drill in ANWR... we'd get a lot more than 5,000 barrels a year.

[TheFallGuy]

I would have a solar roof today - except that my neighborhood association has prohibited them.

It is fascinating to me how it is the Liberal greenies who are most opposing any move (wind farms, solar panels, geothermal plants) to gain energy independence.

Lemmings.

If you are REALLY serious about controlling emissions, start with the one that causes MORE PEOPLE.

I'd say start controlling volcanoes. Cap & trade that.

Seriously, if your HOA are liberal enviroweenies, call them on their hypocrisy re: solar panels.

I'm glad I don't have an HOA. They're practically useless.