Now This Makes My Blood Boil.........

[King Cantona]

Multi millionaires who think they're above the law should really be fined more than ordinary people, fines would be better if they were a percentage of their wages because right now if they get a ticket they couldn't care less:

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/1100783_ronaldo_parks_in_penalty_area

And I'm a United fan but this flagrant disregard of the law and other people REALLY annoys me....:evil:....

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

If all fines are pro-rated for wages, then yeah. But to fine someone more just because they are wealthy? No.

[rob_b52]

This is an OUTRAGE!!!

This really chaps my lips. it makes my boils grow boils and boil over into my cold sores!! I aint gonna be able to sit down for a week!!

ok... I see people do this from time to time. I call it out every time. Last time was at best buy. I said to the guy, you dont have a handicap tag on the rearview mirror, why are you parking there. He said, he was sick of looking for an open spot and I should mind my own business.... I waited un til he left and flagged down the first mall security truck I saw and left the rest to the mall cop.

[LoneStarHero]

I'm not a fan of handicap spots, so I could care less if Diva Ronaldo wants to donate 70 pounds to city bureaucrats.

[sgdp]

This is an OUTRAGE!!!

This really chaps my lips. it makes my boils grow boils and boil over into my cold sores!! I aint gonna be able to sit down for a week!!

ok... I see people do this from time to time. I call it out every time. Last time was at best buy. I said to the guy, you dont have a handicap tag on the rearview mirror, why are you parking there. He said, he was sick of looking for an open spot and I should mind my own business.... I waited un til he left and flagged down the first mall security truck I saw and left the rest to the mall cop.

Please. Don't encourage the cockiness of the typical mall cop. :eek:

I would only report someone if there were no other handicapped spots. Even then, I can't imagine I'd be bothered to flag someone down.

[Pudge]

I don't mind a couple handicapped spots in front of the entrances, but it's getting out of hand. A new super-convenience store has half the spaces in front reserved for the handicapped, and my local Wal-Mart has about 40-50 spaces cordoned off. There aren't even that many handicapped in the town I live in. Plus, it's not too hard to get a permit. Doesn't have to be a physical handicap, you can get one for stress. STRESS! Yeah, I'm stressed out having to hire a sherpa to bring my groceries out to the hinterlands where my car is parked, gimme a handicap permit, Doc.

[Bolshevik Hunter]

The god damn spaces are one too many. It doesn't matter where I go, there is always 5 to 6 of these spaces, and rarely even one is taken. They are always empty. I think 2 or 3 is reasonable. Don't tell that to these nut-cases out here in California though. I had to look at 5 or 6 myself while I had to park at the other end of the 1/4 mile parking lot with my pregnant wife. What a ****ing joke.

Ever wonder why they don't offer these spots to pregnant women? I'll tell yuh why, because These bottomfeeders want to have the spaces open so that they can get the revenue from idiots like this guy. ;) It's all about money, just like everything else in this messed up, once great Country that is now ruled by gutless, corrupt scoundrels.

Anyone think I am wrong? Should pregnant women be allowed to use the other Handicap spaces that are almost always empty? Of course they should be allowed. And they should not have to purchase a pass either. A signed doctors note from let's say maybe 4 months pregnant, would be reasonable or alteast a start for the debate. This is just another example of morons making important decisions for the masses of stupid sheople. I'll tell yuh what, I am going to blow this subject of Pregnant women deserving the use of these handicapped spaces up in a personal blog. ~BH

[grapabeaux]

I don't have specific data to back this up, but I'd bet that if there are excessive handicap spots in front of a store, I'd bet that there was the fear of an ADA lawsuit behind it. One of the noxious byproducts of the 1990 Americans With Disabilities Act is that it created more opportunities for frivilous lawsuits.

As for making traffic fines proportionate to their wealth/income, don't give the Obama administration any ideas. In Finland, the amount of the traffic offense is tied to their income. In 2002, a Nokia executive was fined the equivalent of $103,000 for speeding. (Yes, it was speeding a lot over the limit, but still...)

http://www.screaming-penguin.com/node/2396

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

I don't have a problem with handicapped spaces.

I do have a problem with the idea that pregnant women need them. How ridiculous.

[sadiepie]

I had a brother that was in a wheelchair. It seemed like everytime he went to the store the handicap spaces were taken up by people who really didn't need them. Some of them only put the handicap sign up once they pulled into the space. Most don't have the sign on their license plate. I know one person who got the sign to hang on the rearview mirror when she had a broken leg. That was two years ago. She still hangs it up just to get a good parking space.

[rob_b52]

The god damn spaces are one too many. It doesn't matter where I go, there is always 5 to 6 of these spaces, and rarely even one is taken. They are always empty. I think 2 or 3 is reasonable. Don't tell that to these nut-cases out here in California though. I had to look at 5 or 6 myself while I had to park at the other end of the 1/4 mile parking lot with my pregnant wife. What a ****ing joke.

you could just drop her off at the entrance to the store...go park the car, then meet up with the woman inside the store.....

[khigh]

I like that on the military bases (commisary and PX) there are parking spots for pregnant women and new moms. I loved that when I was 9 months pregnant, I didn't have to waddle from the back of the parking lot.

I still get great parking on post. I have my father in law's truck with a CSM sticker. Sergeant Majors and family with stickers get front row parking.

Walmart is a different story. Won't go there anymore and when I have to, I drive around for 10 minutes looking for a spot! I can't carry my 25lb kid from the back parking spot and she doesn't want to walk that far.

[Bolshevik Hunter]

you could just drop her off at the entrance to the store...go park the car, then meet up with the woman inside the store.....

Oh really? Well, I have done that many times, I am not a whiner. My point is that it's wasted space. For a guy who I usually notice that has commonsense, you seem to have lost it tonight? That's ok, it happens to all of us.

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n229/kampkirk88/smiley_drinkbeerbong.gif

However, what the hell do you have to say if she is alone, or I am alone, huh bro? Exactly. That's what I thought. I guess it sounded like a real good come back, Atleast as long as the bullcrap lasted eh?

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n229/kampkirk88/smiley_hammerbash.gif ~BH

[angelicmadrigal]

Personally I park in the last few rows 90% of the time so that elderly people, people with kids, or people who may not get around as well as me can park there. Plus a little walk is good for the old heart..

[EnchantedFrog]

Of course, if you're Hillary Clinton you would have your motorcade just run over the cop. End of story.

[LouC]

I'm not a fan of handicap spots, so I could care less if Diva Ronaldo wants to donate 70 pounds to city bureaucrats.

I am also not a fan of handicapped parking spaces.

Of course I'm not a fan of being crippled either.

Wish we could do away with both.

[King Cantona]

I am also not a fan of handicapped parking spaces.

Of course I'm not a fan of being crippled either.

Wish we could do away with both.

Yes of course, I've heard enough whining here about disabled spots not being taken and how you're all angry at having to park a bit further away, well boo hoo. What about the poor disabled guy who can't park near the door because of inconsiderate people flouting the law...

As for the 'outrage' being caused by my suggestion that someone on over a hundred grand a week paying more for arrogantly dismissing the law, well maybe there should be a few points on their license when they're caught. See how these rich people like it when after an accumulation of points they're banned for a while...

[jeepers]

I don't have a problem with handicapped spaces.

I do have a problem with the idea that pregnant women need them. How ridiculous.


Depends upon the pregnant woman, Emm.

[LouC]

Yes of course, I've heard enough whining here about disabled spots not being taken and how you're all angry at having to park a bit further away, well boo hoo. What about the poor disabled guy who can't park near the door because of inconsiderate people flouting the law...

As for the 'outrage' being caused by my suggestion that someone on over a hundred grand a week paying more for arrogantly dismissing the law, well maybe there should be a few points on their license when they're caught. See how these rich people like it when after an accumulation of points they're banned for a while...

Even though I am a cripple I still feel guilt at times about using handicapped parking, especially when lots are full at the holidays.

I worry that someone even more handicapped than I am might get left out.

I don't believe having wealthier people pay larger fines because of their income is appropriate.

However I do believe the frequency of their parking indiscretions should weigh heavily on how they are dealt with on an ongoing basis.

When I lived in Massachusetts they had a little device they employed against people with a large number of unpaid tickets called the "Denver Boot".

Once that was applied to a person's vehicle it got their attention.

It was also cheaper and easier than towing.

So I would not object to an escalating fine system for handicap parking spot scofflaws.

For example...

1st time $50

2nd time $100

3rd time they get caught they get the boot and are charged $150 fine and $350 boot removal fee.

Etc. Etc.

In Illinois the state legislature not too long back raised the fine to $250 and allows for municipalities to fine at $350 for each offense.

[King Cantona]

Even though I am a cripple I still feel guilt at times about using handicapped parking, especially when lots are full at the holidays.

Well clearly there are degrees of disability, some disabled people are more disabled than others but the parking bays are specifically for DISABLED people, you shouldn't feel guilty about using the bays that are SPECIFICALLY for you...

So any able bodied person using the bay raises my hackles, but to me a Premiership footballer who is more able bodied than virtually anyone REALLY is the limit...

Just to go and eat at a restaurant? I hardly ever eat out, I know the value of money, these pampered professionals don't know they're born...

[Talk2Bill]

one one hand if a rich person gets a fine of $300 what does he care.

if i do the same thing and get a fine it would be a big deal to me.

so if the reason of a fine is to punish then the rich are not punished.

HOWEVER! the reason i am against a sliding scale for fines is: how would a person with no income be fined? Would they just get away with it?

[psyko kat]

The god damn spaces are one too many. It doesn't matter where I go, there is always 5 to 6 of these spaces, and rarely even one is taken. They are always empty. I think 2 or 3 is reasonable. Don't tell that to these nut-cases out here in California though. I had to look at 5 or 6 myself while I had to park at the other end of the 1/4 mile parking lot with my pregnant wife. What a ****ing joke.

Ever wonder why they don't offer these spots to pregnant women? I'll tell yuh why, because These bottomfeeders want to have the spaces open so that they can get the revenue from idiots like this guy. ;) It's all about money, just like everything else in this messed up, once great Country that is now ruled by gutless, corrupt scoundrels.

Anyone think I am wrong? Should pregnant women be allowed to use the other Handicap spaces that are almost always empty? Of course they should be allowed. And they should not have to purchase a pass either. A signed doctors note from let's say maybe 4 months pregnant, would be reasonable or alteast a start for the debate. This is just another example of morons making important decisions for the masses of stupid sheople. I'll tell yuh what, I am going to blow this subject of Pregnant women deserving the use of these handicapped spaces up in a personal blog. ~BH

the mall I go to has 'spots' for pregnant woman right next to the 'handicapped' spots.

[psyko kat]

I used to take my MoM to the stores, and park in the handicapped spots, cos she was in a wheel chair, and I was her transportation./ I had a card in the window, and only used it when she was in the car.//
One day after I parked, and jumped out of the car, I heard a snotty voice say ''Yer not supposed to park there''/ I just opened the trunk and pulled out the wheelchair. rolled around to the passenger side of the car, and got MoM out...
that person walked away without another word..

[mysticbeauty_nbeast]

Even though I am a cripple I still feel guilt at times about using handicapped parking, especially when lots are full at the holidays.

I worry that someone even more handicapped than I am might get left out.

Thank you for writing that..I don't feel so weird anymore...as I too think the same thing. On 'good' days, I won't use my placard...on 'bad' days...I feel bad for using it at all. :frown:

I don't believe having wealthier people pay larger fines because of their income is appropriate.

However I do believe the frequency of their parking indiscretions should weigh heavily on how they are dealt with on an ongoing basis.

Agreed....

When I lived in Massachusetts they had a little device they employed against people with a large number of unpaid tickets called the "Denver Boot".

Once that was applied to a person's vehicle it got their attention.

It was also cheaper and easier than towing.

So I would not object to an escalating fine system for handicap parking spot scofflaws.

For example...

1st time $50

2nd time $100

3rd time they get caught they get the boot and are charged $150 fine and $350 boot removal fee.

Etc. Etc.

In Illinois the state legislature not too long back raised the fine to $250 and allows for municipalities to fine at $350 for each offense.

I wonder how much it is to start a 'boot' program? California could most certainly use a program such as the one you describe.

~Mysty

[terri910]

I had a brother that was in a wheelchair. It seemed like everytime he went to the store the handicap spaces were taken up by people who really didn't need them. Some of them only put the handicap sign up once they pulled into the space. Most don't have the sign on their license plate. I know one person who got the sign to hang on the rearview mirror when she had a broken leg. That was two years ago. She still hangs it up just to get a good parking space.
Although you have given an example of someone that may not need the handicapped placard, what in the world makes you think that only putting up the handicapped placard once one is pulled into the space has anything to do with, well, anything? Handicapped persons are only allowed two vehicles with handicapped plates. My husband and I have two vehicles, both of which he drives from time to time. But when he drives his business car, or is in a vehicle with someone else, or rents a car, his handicap does not magically go away (i.e., the part of his foot that has been amputated does not reappear). And he ONLY puts the placard up once he has pulled into the handicapped parking space -- to do it before obstructs the vision of the driver.

[terri910]

Personally I park in the last few rows 90% of the time so that elderly people, people with kids, or people who may not get around as well as me can park there. Plus a little walk is good for the old heart..
AND you are less likely to get "dings" on your doors!

[King Cantona]

One day after I parked, and jumped out of the car, I heard a snotty voice say ''Yer not supposed to park there''/ I just opened the trunk and pulled out the wheelchair. rolled around to the passenger side of the car, and got MoM out...
that person walked away without another word..

Did you see Me Myself and Irene? A very similar thing happened and was hilarious...:))...

[psyko kat]

Did you see Me Myself and Irene? A very similar thing happened and was hilarious...:))...

nah, never saw it, what year was it.?

[zantax]

Well, there are handicapped and there are handicapped. My mom has one but really, she is perfectly capable of walking and her doctor has repeatedly told her to walk more, seems exercise is also good for some handicapped people. So should she really have a handicap plate? I say, no.

[jeepers]

the mall I go to has 'spots' for pregnant woman right next to the 'handicapped' spots.


Not in California they aren't. No such thing as a 'reserved for pregnant women' spot, there.

[psyko kat]

Not in California they aren't. No such thing as a 'reserved for pregnant women' spot, there.

hmm, that's too bad/ they have them in Ohio.

[rob_b52]

Oh really? Well, I have done that many times, I am not a whiner. My point is that it's wasted space. For a guy who I usually notice that has commonsense, you seem to have lost it tonight? That's ok, it happens to all of us.

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n229/kampkirk88/smiley_drinkbeerbong.gif

However, what the hell do you have to say if she is alone, or I am alone, huh bro? Exactly. That's what I thought. I guess it sounded like a real good come back, Atleast as long as the bullcrap lasted eh?

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n229/kampkirk88/smiley_hammerbash.gif ~BH

easy big fella..... thanks for the commonsense part though...

I wasn't trying to pull any bullstuff here... just offering suggestions.

my point is, the handicap parking space isn't going to go away anytime too soon. its a reality we all have to deal with. wear a helmet!!

[King Cantona]

nah, never saw it, what year was it.?

Here's the scene:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V44RPFjtm6o

[angelicmadrigal]

AND you are less likely to get "dings" on your doors!

::laughs:: My bf just said "Hell, dings on your door might actually INCREASE the value of your car".

[Bolshevik Hunter]

easy big fella..... thanks for the commonsense part though...

I wasn't trying to pull any bullstuff here... just offering suggestions.

my point is, the handicap parking space isn't going to go away anytime too soon. its a reality we all have to deal with. wear a helmet!!

rob, I hear yuh. I guess some cities actually have spaces for pregnant women next to the handicap spots as another poster earlier pointed out. I have never seen any here in California or in any other State that I have visited myself. ~BH

[psyko kat]

Here's the scene:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V44RPFjtm6o

:eek: :))//Jim Carrey is so funny.

[JenyEliza]

I don't have a problem with handicapped spaces.

I do have a problem with the idea that pregnant women need them. How ridiculous.

Obviously you've never carried twins, triplets or more. :rolleyes:

[JenyEliza]

Depends upon the pregnant woman, Emm.

Yup. Walking in from the outer 40 when you're carrying twins isn't easy. "Pregnant parking" hadn't been invented yet when I was carrying my 14 year olds. We got our first spots here when they were about 6 months old.

I sure would have appreciated the pregnant parking when I was expecting. Twins are a heavy load and hard on the back.

[USMCmom]

hmm, that's too bad/ they have them in Ohio.

We have them here in Idaho they are called "Stork Stalls!"

[LouC]

We have them here in Idaho they are called "Stork Stalls!"

Breeder Bays would be a more appropriate name from what I have witnessed, litters of crumb crunchers that pile out of vehicles after the "nother bun in the oven mothers", at Malls, Wally Worlds, McDonald's, and other places.

A store designating close in parking spaces for the pregnant is a good PR move but I wouldn't want to see it made law to require them.

I can certainly appreciate the difficulty of getting around with an aching back, although not because I was carrying twins, but getting preferred parking spots for a condition of choice (with extreme exceptions) is crazy.

I have been crippled from birth, not crippled until birth. :D

Reminds me of the woman ticketed in Texas driving in the HoV lane.

When the Officer asked why she was driving in the lane all by herself she protested that she was "pregnant" so her vehicle did have at least "two" people on board. :rolleyes:

...gonna love the flack storm over this...

[sgtmac_46]

Multi millionaires who think they're above the law should really be fined more than ordinary people, fines would be better if they were a percentage of their wages because right now if they get a ticket they couldn't care less:

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/1100783_ronaldo_parks_in_penalty_area

And I'm a United fan but this flagrant disregard of the law and other people REALLY annoys me....:evil:....

Just make parking in a handicapped spot a towing offense......then it doesn't matter if they are rich or poor......coming back and finding your car gone is a pain in the ass even if you can afford the two bill.

[King Cantona]

Just make parking in a handicapped spot a towing offense......then it doesn't matter if they are rich or poor......coming back and finding your car gone is a pain in the ass even if you can afford the two bill.

Good Idea, and it makes it very expensive to get your car from the compound.........

[khigh]

rob, I hear yuh. I guess some cities actually have spaces for pregnant women next to the handicap spots as another poster earlier pointed out. I have never seen any here in California or in any other State that I have visited myself. ~BH

We don't have them in town, but they do have them on base. I loved it when I was 9 months pregnant. Waddling from the back of the parking lot is not fun at all. And, I didn't have my husband here to drop me off at the front- he was in basic training.

[jeepers]

We don't have them in town, but they do have them on base. I loved it when I was 9 months pregnant. Waddling from the back of the parking lot is not fun at all. And, I didn't have my husband here to drop me off at the front- he was in basic training.

I see a few of them around here, but there are massive quantities of handicapped stalls.

Btw, even if your husband is 'in town' doesn't mean that he's at the grocery store with you. Women do a lot of things alone.

First pregnancy, no big deal. Worked up until three weeks before my due date, full load of patients and didn't ask for help. Now with number two, I was 40 years old, the back wasn't happy, and he rode so low that it was painful to walk any distance, let alone deal with the contractions that brought on.

I still went grocery shopping but pushing that pig of a cart to the south 40 was basically miserable. Couldn't walk the mall during Christmas, I did that once and barely made it through. Ended up using Amazon a lot. Would have given my left elbow for a closer spot.

I think that the reason why CA doesn't have them is because of limited land for any sort of use in urban areas, as opposed to here in the midwest. One thing that MO has is SPACE. And the land isn't as pricey.

Just a guess.

[khigh]

I see a few of them around here, but there are massive quantities of handicapped stalls.

Btw, even if your husband is 'in town' doesn't mean that he's at the grocery store with you. Women do a lot of things alone.

First pregnancy, no big deal. Worked up until three weeks before my due date, full load of patients and didn't ask for help. Now with number two, I was 40 years old, the back wasn't happy, and he rode so low that it was painful to walk any distance, let alone deal with the contractions that brought on.

I still went grocery shopping but pushing that pig of a cart to the south 40 was basically miserable. Couldn't walk the mall during Christmas, I did that once and barely made it through. Ended up using Amazon a lot. Would have given my left elbow for a closer spot.

I think that the reason why CA doesn't have them is because of limited land for any sort of use in urban areas, as opposed to here in the midwest. One thing that MO has is SPACE. And the land isn't as pricey.

Just a guess.

CA just needs to get rid of that "compact car" parking up front and replace it with spots for the pregnant women. I wasn't horribly miserable until I was 9 months pregnant and the three weeks she decided she didn't want to come just yet.