the Break up of America

[Fewbear]

America is not only at war with other country's it is at war with itself and the question is what is going to happen in the end. With the way things are going in america today, it seems that a revolution might be in our future. CBS had a tv show called JERICHO, Which was about a nuclear attack on the US and how a community servived afterwards. Well I have always thought it was a teaching video, showing what to do if such a thing were to happen. Now it is on SCI-FI, I believe that sooner than later this show of fiction could turn into reality. So what should we do to keep this from happening, First off i think that we need to bring the military home, and fix our problems instead of trying to fix the rest of the problems in the world. I just wanted to voice my concerns about what i see as a possiblity in the future, and get feedback on what others are thinking. :flag:I would love to know that the flag i have grown up under and believe in will be around for my kids and their kids to believe in.

[Gem]

America is not only at war with other country's it is at war with itself and the question is what is going to happen in the end. With the way things are going in america today, it seems that a revolution might be in our future. CBS had a tv show called JERICHO, Which was about a nuclear attack on the US and how a community servived afterwards. Well I have always thought it was a teaching video, showing what to do if such a thing were to happen. Now it is on SCI-FI, I believe that sooner than later this show of fiction could turn into reality. So what should we do to keep this from happening, First off i think that we need to bring the military home, and fix our problems instead of trying to fix the rest of the problems in the world. I just wanted to voice my concerns about what i see as a possiblity in the future, and get feedback on what others are thinking. :flag:I would love to know that the flag i have grown up under and believe in will be around for my kids and their kids to believe in.


With Obama in there I wouldn't count on it.
I watched the Glen Beck show this evening, he had a communist
guy on his show. this man said Obama is making us a communist country and that would be a good thing. this is what the man said.

Glenn asked him why would that be a good thing. the communist man said the middle glass people would do all the hard work and the rich would get richer. the man said that is what the communist do.

I know this sure don't look good for us at all.

[tx832]

There's quite a lot of talk in Texas, believe it or not, of once more Texas becoming an independent republic as it was from 1836 to 1845. Personally, I'd be all for it. By the time B.O. drags the country down, it's going to be a far different country than ever before, a "change" for the worse. At least Texas could make it on its own.

[Raventhru]

This country is, for the most part, over. There are to many distractions to keep people from seeing what is really going on in this country. Our troops are overseas and will not be coming home soon. The best way for the government to take over is to keep the citizens help away from them. I am putting two links here of videos. Watch (or listen) if you choose. They are disturbing and cause you to ask more questions than they answer. Maybe someong in the areas which are talked about in them can find out more about them
Video 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tPBf5apgP0&feature=channel_page)
Video 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qQuz35VjY0&feature=channel)
Thanks! God Bless America!!

[Richard T Lewis]

http://forums.hannity.com/images/icons/icon6.gif the Break up of America
I'm sure it will be around, but the liberties we have (or had) will be much less. the country will get it back just not in our life time. thanks to the ones who voted democrap. they voted on there emotions and not on reality.

[flashycopy]

Why is it that conservatives get their butt handed to them in the last election and the next thing you here from them is talk of revolt? This sounds like a kid on the school yard getting mad and taking his ball home.

[Amallek]

There's quite a lot of talk in Texas, believe it or not, of once more Texas becoming an independent republic as it was from 1836 to 1845. Personally, I'd be all for it. By the time B.O. drags the country down, it's going to be a far different country than ever before, a "change" for the worse. At least Texas could make it on its own.

There is quite a lot of talk in the rest of the country about how while Lincoln did a great job setting the slaves free, he really screwed the pooch on the Union. What do you say we give you want you want? The confederacy can rise again. You take all the red states and we keep the blue?

[rhet 2]

There is quite a lot of talk in the rest of the country about how while Lincoln did a great job setting the slaves free, he really screwed the pooch on the Union. What do you say we give you want you want? The confederacy can rise again. You take all the red states and we keep the blue?

As long as I no longer have to live in Hippie Sodom and Gomorrah where people die just because it seems like fun at the time.

NO ONE can destroy America -- because America is an IDEAL -- a set of values centered on the principle that all humanity -- including Iraqis -- are entitled to life, liberty, and opportunity to pursue whatever happiness they define for themselves.

And that CANNOT be fractured -- abandoned by apes who want the power to drink blood and destroy other people, yes -- but NOT destroyed.

America is NOT a political system, it is NOT an economic system -- it is a CULTURE based on humanist beliefs and values that block nasty little "me me me me me" screaming meemie spoiled brats from doing any damned thing they want, regardless of who they destroy in the process.

America is the difference between Cromagnon brutality and civilized society that CAN continue to move forward to achieve a higher socio-cultural goal -- the culture of the Founding Fathers whose ancestors had escaped the brutality of European LIBERALISM of the 16th and 17th centuries.

Some people prefer living in the past, glued to selfish cruel and vicious destruction of Others -- and some people struggle to move forward. The Left glues itself to the past and seeks to destroy the Bill of Rights which blocks their self-indulgent psychotic predations on the universe. The Right rejects the past and struggles to achieve the VERY high ideals set for us by the Bill of Rights.

Democrats: devoted to slavery, writers of Jim Crow laws, devoted party of the KKK, enriching themselves by destroying the poor and blocking any hope of self-actualization and independent adulthood because they just don't give a **** about anybody except themselves

vs.

Republicans: there's some hope some of them will abandon Hippie Sludgeville devotion to INJUSTICE AND HYENA CULTURE of death and destruction -- if they can stop their own vicious little Pay to Play bastards of eternal graft and corruption and ANTI-HUMANISM.

vs.

America -- a lot stronger and healthier than lawyers devoted to lying their worthless asses off for the sake of get-rich-quick schemes for social hyenas will ever comprehend

Legal and moral are NOT the same thing -- and Democrats are as IMMORAL as bloodsucking insane anti-humanist social filth ever gets.

[James Juno]

Why is it that conservatives get their butt handed to them in the last election and the next thing you here from them is talk of revolt? This sounds like a kid on the school yard getting mad and taking his ball home.

And your arrogance goes a long way toward reconciliation and bringing the country together. How very patriotic of you. Thank you for demonstrating that both parties are catalysts of the problems in this country.

[Linda Despres]

My Son joined the Marines two years ago, we have always believed in our country. It's getting harder and harder to believe in anything any more. I just hope my son will come back home safely one day. I pray that obama wont get him killed.

[Amallek]

My Son joined the Marines two years ago, we have always believed in our country. It's getting harder and harder to believe in anything any more. I just hope my son will come back home safely one day. I pray that obama wont get him killed.

He is bravely trying to end George Bush's war, not Obama's.

[mboncher]

So FDR is the one who dropped The Bomb, not Truman? After all, it was FDR's War? Talk about spurious wishful logic. It's HIS war now. Only way to not make it his war is to force the troops to run away and hide in their bases. I guess then he can be the president who LOST the war when it was almost won.

[rhet 2]

My Son joined the Marines two years ago, we have always believed in our country. It's getting harder and harder to believe in anything any more. I just hope my son will come back home safely one day. I pray that obama wont get him killed.

Your son is a MAN worthy of respect.

Thank you for teaching him the basics of responsible giving for the sake of others.

I've added him to my list of troops I pray for as often as I can. We need his type of citizen home to be dads and raise kids with the same kind of tough honesty.

And don't let the knuckleheads get you down. They can steal an election and usurp political power -- but they HAVE NO ABILITY to destroy a heart and mind such as that which you gave your son.

America is just fine, despite the scuzzballs that hate it so very much.

[sirjamesearl]

My Son joined the Marines two years ago, we have always believed in our country. It's getting harder and harder to believe in anything any more. I just hope my son will come back home safely one day. I pray that obama wont get him killed.

:flag:Tell your son, Semper Fi....we are with him...some of us in our prayers and some of us in the fleet...His countrymen thank him for his service and to come home safe when the battle is won....and we thank you....for raising a fine upstanding true American patriot....THANK YOU:clap:

[PhantomPholly]

He is bravely trying to end George Bush's war, not Obama's.

The President cannot declare war unilaterally. The Congress does. The Congress has been Democratic for over 2 years, and we are talking of a surge in Afghanistan.

So, this will be Obama's war. But, since our new Democratic Congress isn't willing to fund the military, you can count on a high body count.

[mboncher]

And God help us if P-BO decides to follow up on his threat and invade the nuclear power, Pakistan.

[Spock]

The Russian president has recently said that the US won't exist in one year.

Russian scholar says US will collapse — next year (AP) (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090304/ap_on_re_eu/eu_russia_us_the_end_is_near;_ylt=Andu0UdbL3_TBz9d tdsyAv_Zn414)


Yahoo! News (http://buzz.yahoo.com/publisher/p/y_news;_ylt=AsT5w4K4smqg9nFtlSYg5mfZn414)
Made Popular: Mar 4, 2009 - AP - If you're inclined to believe Igor Panarin, and the Kremlin wouldn't mind if you did, then President Barack Obama will order martial law this year, the U.S. will split into six rump-states before 2011, and Russia and China will become the backbones of a new world order


http://barbadosfreepress.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/no-obama-barbados.jpg

[Corbulo]

There's quite a lot of talk in Texas, believe it or not, of once more Texas becoming an independent republic as it was from 1836 to 1845. Personally, I'd be all for it. By the time B.O. drags the country down, it's going to be a far different country than ever before, a "change" for the worse. At least Texas could make it on its own.

I live in Texas and I've not heard a single person talk about this... ever...

[Corbulo]

The President cannot declare war unilaterally. The Congress does. The Congress has been Democratic for over 2 years, and we are talking of a surge in Afghanistan.

So, this will be Obama's war. But, since our new Democratic Congress isn't willing to fund the military, you can count on a high body count.

There's an absence of logic in your logic...

[Getty Girl]

There's quite a lot of talk in Texas, believe it or not, of once more Texas becoming an independent republic as it was from 1836 to 1845. Personally, I'd be all for it. By the time B.O. drags the country down, it's going to be a far different country than ever before, a "change" for the worse. At least Texas could make it on its own.


I agree, they have cattle, oil and guns. I would move in a hearbeat...

[Getty Girl]

There is quite a lot of talk in the rest of the country about how while Lincoln did a great job setting the slaves free, he really screwed the pooch on the Union. What do you say we give you want you want? The confederacy can rise again. You take all the red states and we keep the blue?

The blue states would never allow the red states to leave, they would be losing the people who believe in personal responsibilty and who actually work for a living. If all the dogs leave, what will the fleas do?

[mrclean]

The blue states would never allow the red states to leave, they would be losing the people who believe in personal responsibilty and who actually work for a living. If all the dogs leave, what will the fleas do?


The Blue states pay most of the taxes in this country.

We'd experience an economic boom like none before if we didn't have the red state leaches sucking us dry.

[BravoBuzzard]

I see these threads every so often on this forum. People get angry and want to tear themselves away from the country.

What you need to understand, is that this is what makes our country the greatest country on the planet. If you're disatisfied with your current government, you elect a new one, or better yet, you run for office yourself.

I am not pleased with the current administration, but I don't see that that is any reason to tear the country apart. Conservatives just need to learn to vet their candidates better. Put some real conservatives in office and dismantal everything that has been done. We can change our country to our vision 1x vote at a time.

[BravoBuzzard]

How?


The Blue states pay most of the taxes in this country.

We'd experience an economic boom like none before if we didn't the red state leaches sucking us dry.

[Conan]

The Blue states pay most of the taxes in this country.

We'd experience an economic boom like none before if we didn't have the red state leaches sucking us dry.

And blue states imposes their controls/regulations over other states through federal government.....so they should be more.

Don't want to pay more.....then butt out.

[rhet 2]

I see these threads every so often on this forum. People get angry and want to tear themselves away from the country.

What you need to understand, is that this is what makes our country the greatest country on the planet. If you're disatisfied with your current government, you elect a new one, or better yet, you run for office yourself.

I am not pleased with the current administration, but I don't see that that is any reason to tear the country apart. Conservatives just need to learn to vet their candidates better. Put some real conservatives in office and dismantal everything that has been done. We can change our country to our vision 1x vote at a time.

Precisely so! :clap:

What we've got to do is challenge the Class Snobbery and Totalitarianism of the Left better.

Time for the Radicalized Left to move to the Center for a change -- and Hippies CAN learn tolerance, too.

IF they want to continue to hold any influence over society, they'd damned well better.

Because "legal" and "moral" are not the same thing.

And a lot of us are fed up with legalized immorality.

Time to demand moralized legality for a change.

No more dead kids, to start with.

[Getty Girl]

The Blue states pay most of the taxes in this country.

We'd experience an economic boom like none before if we didn't have the red state leaches sucking us dry.


*LMAO* you have your colors turned around buddy.

[LJB1031]

The President cannot declare war unilaterally. The Congress does. The Congress has been Democratic for over 2 years, and we are talking of a surge in Afghanistan.

So, this will be Obama's war. But, since our new Democratic Congress isn't willing to fund the military, you can count on a high body count.

You seem to forget, war was never declared.

[BROEDERBOND]

The Blue states pay most of the taxes in this country.

We'd experience an economic boom like none before if we didn't have the red state leaches sucking us dry.


Then you would have no reason to oppose Red State Secession would ya?

[Hereintheusa]

Precisely so! :clap:

What we've got to do is challenge the Class Snobbery and Totalitarianism of the Left better.

Time for the Radicalized Left to move to the Center for a change -- and Hippies CAN learn tolerance, too.

IF they want to continue to hold any influence over society, they'd damned well better.

Because "legal" and "moral" are not the same thing.

And a lot of us are fed up with legalized immorality.

Time to demand moralized legality for a change.

No more dead kids, to start with.

Oh come off it Rhet, it was under a Republican administration that we saw the federal government increase in size on a never before scale in generationsl. We had a Republican administration which introduced the Patriot Act, the same act just a few years before would have been screamed down by conservatives (and rightly so).

To accuse the left of snobbery and totalatarianism without laying the same accusation at Republicans is disingenious and intellectually dishonest.

[mboncher]

You seem to forget, war was never declared.
Huh, strange, then what were those resolutions for military action in Iraq and Afghanistan voted on by Congress with a 99-1 vote in the senate? But this is a non-sequiter and has no bearing on the discussion at hand. Of course, when did that stop the loony left from screaming "BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH!!!"

[LJB1031]

Huh, strange, then what were those resolutions for military action in Iraq and Afghanistan voted on by Congress with a 99-1 vote in the senate? But this is a non-sequiter and has no bearing on the discussion at hand. Of course, when did that stop the loony left from screaming "BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH!!!"

It was not a non-sequitUr (check your spelling). I was merely responding to PhantomPholly, and I stand by what I said. War was never declared, regardless of the resolutions. We haven't had an actual declaration of war since WWII.

[mboncher]

:rolleyes: mmkay... you keep believing that. At least you weren't petty enough to mock my spill cheeker.

[rhet 2]

Oh come off it Rhet, it was under a Republican administration that we saw the federal government increase in size on a never before scale in generationsl. We had a Republican administration which introduced the Patriot Act, the same act just a few years before would have been screamed down by conservatives (and rightly so).

To accuse the left of snobbery and totalatarianism without laying the same accusation at Republicans is disingenious and intellectually dishonest.

Do note: the Democrats have NEVER YET even talked about repealing Patriot -- which they could have done any time since 2006.

and Obama's got Bush beat by MILES when it comes to totalitarian POLICY IMPOSITION without bothering to consult the Senate at all

Rule by Decree from the White House -- and to hell with bi-partisan debate on any subject at all.

Even Carter -- the biggest single surge in federal power next to LBJ -- didn't surpass the Abomination of Abominations we've got MANDATING POLICY by his own personal supreme DECLARATION OF WILL.

But none of them, not even the Usurper by Crime, surpasses FDR for destruction of States Rights and the power of the individual citizen.

And don't preach to me about Democrats being "tolerant" -- not when Pelosi's first move was to REVERSE the equal representation policy instituted under Gingrich's leadership -- to ensure the total marginalization of the Opposition Party. Which DID disenfranchise every citizen with a representative who's not a Pelosi Slave.

The only way now to have any influence over policy is to kiss either Pelosi's ass, Reid's ass, or Obama's ass

-- and all three asses are covered in egomaniacal, power mad, devoted to mass-murder and child raping and stolen unearned gold monsters, sunk in immoral and totally criminalized, barbaric, anti-social, civilization-hating, wanna-be the New Aristocracy by Political PARTY **** that has for over 50 years successfully reduced the quality of American life to the lowest pits of hell seen since the Roman Empire under Tiberius, Caligula and Nero.

[Rhonda]

Don't ya just love all the "hope and change" obama has brought to us

I can't take any more of his hope

[ChrisSpencer]

America is not only at war with other country's it is at war with itself and the question is what is going to happen in the end. With the way things are going in america today, it seems that a revolution might be in our future. CBS had a tv show called JERICHO, Which was about a nuclear attack on the US and how a community servived afterwards. Well I have always thought it was a teaching video, showing what to do if such a thing were to happen. Now it is on SCI-FI, I believe that sooner than later this show of fiction could turn into reality. So what should we do to keep this from happening, First off i think that we need to bring the military home, and fix our problems instead of trying to fix the rest of the problems in the world. I just wanted to voice my concerns about what i see as a possiblity in the future, and get feedback on what others are thinking. :flag:I would love to know that the flag i have grown up under and believe in will be around for my kids and their kids to believe in.

There wont be any revolutions in the United States.

Americans are too lazy and too careless to put that much effort into changing something.

[rhet 2]

Don't ya just love all the "hope and change" obama has brought to us

I can't take any more of his hope

I can't take anymore of the mass murdering, genocidal HATE KILL mentality.

These bastards don't even give a **** about living, breathing, desperate to keep on living babies -- much less the citizens dying in every single city and town and village we've got -- dying from gang violence, dying from drugs, dying from suicide, dying from ruined bridges and roadways, dying from jihad assaults like 9/11, dying from a thousand and one causes ALL LEGALIZED BY HIPPIE THUGGERY in Congress and in the federal courts.

Living ignorant, living totally foolish and wasted lives buried in emotional and social depravity, living nothing going-nowhere WASTED lives without hope, without purpose, without the least hint of Self-Actualization and Self-Maximization and SELF Achievement.

I'm so sickened by the DEGRADATION in the quality of American lives since Ike, I could weep endless tears.

[Rhonda]

I can't take anymore of the mass murdering, genocidal HATE KILL mentality.

These bastards don't even give a **** about living, breathing, desperate to keep on living babies -- much less the citizens dying in every single city and town and village we've got -- dying from gang violence, dying from drugs, dying from suicide, dying from ruined bridges and roadways, dying from jihad assaults like 9/11, dying from a thousand and one causes ALL LEGALIZED BY HIPPIE THUGGERY in Congress and in the federal courts.

Living ignorant, living totally foolish and wasted lives buried in emotional and social depravity, living nothing going-nowhere WASTED lives without hope, without purpose, without the least hint of Self-Actualization and Self-Maximization and SELF Achievement.

I'm so sickened by the DEGRADATION in the quality of American lives since Ike, I could weep endless tears.

Oh I completely agree my dear Rhet...

I cry with you...I also have sleepless nights...I am amazed that the leftists are having such success...but I will never submit to the lefts ideals for their so called social equality..that is a farce and a lie from the pit of hell

There are no incentives to become better under this administration:frown:

[mboncher]

There wont be any revolutions in the United States.

Americans are too lazy and too careless to put that much effort into changing something.
Take away the gameboy, TV and food stamps... they'll fight for entertainment. You underestimate the culture responsible for the horrors of Shiloh, Tarawa and Dresden.

[rhet 2]

Oh I completely agree my dear Rhet...

I cry with you...I also have sleepless nights...I am amazed that the leftists are having such success...but I will never submit to the lefts ideals for their so called social equality..that is a farce and a lie from the pit of hell

There are no incentives to become better under this administration:frown:

We haven't lost a darned thing, darling.

Just the Swine Lords seized public and official control through some damned criminalized and ultra-immoral and disgustingly barbaric anti-social tactics.

And I'm seeing some less radicalized and less demoralized mouth pieces actually begin to pull back in horror over the excesses the legalized Humanity Haters are committing.

The more egregiously destructive and vicious they become, the more disgusted with them people in the middle become.

I mean it when I say that Obama and Pelosi and Franks and that type of totally dedicated Worker of Evil Social Filthiness are their own worst enemies. Decent people just cannot look at what they're doing without getting sick at their stomachs and growing a real horror for liberalism itself.

The Swine did NOT win by changing hearts and minds. They TOOK power by lies, by cheats, by deceptions, by crimes and by frauds. And that will cost them still more of what little moral authority they've got left.

[mboncher]

And I'm seeing some less radicalized and less demoralized mouth pieces actually begin to pull back in horror over the excesses the legalized Humanity Haters are committing.

And the more they are personally affected, the faster and more violently they will pull back. Not to mention the suckers... err I mean poor fooled souls discover the bill of goods they've been sold, the more vigorous their revolt and enmity against P-BO.

[meggers49]

The Blue states pay most of the taxes in this country.

We'd experience an economic boom like none before if we didn't have the red state leaches sucking us dry.

they may pay most of the taxes but they also suck up the most revenue from those taxes. California and NY have two of the the highest welfare and illegal rates in the country and the rest of the larger blue states aren't far behind.

They would only last for a little while and that which the red states made would be more than enough for them to get by. I think it would be a great trade.

[rhet 2]

And the more they are personally affected, the faster and more violently they will pull back. Not to mention the suckers... err I mean poor fooled souls discover the bill of goods they've been sold, the more vigorous their revolt and enmity against P-BO.

Precisely

So, America is NOT doomed, not ****tering -- the ideals and culture values that make the US unique and strong are still getting taught to our kids -- despite Holly Freaking Weird moral scum of the earth, despite the thrice-damned corrupt injustice system full of ideological thugs dressed up in judge suits, and despite the thrice corrupted sexual pervert schools full of stoopids wearing teacher suits.

We wait, and they'll implode from their own evil. The only people who love these barbarian scum of the ancient Roman imperial style are the same total barbarians lacking in anything resembling stability and strength of character.

Hell, they can't even hold their marriages together, much less raise kids who become steady, stable and dependable citizens. Just look at the Kennedy brats, for example. And only a total blind ignoramous would call the Clinton's mess a "family" much less a "marriage." The only glue holding them together is political ambition -- and the second throwing one of their own to the wolves even looks like a good idea, watch the wolves feast.

[PATRIOT1871]

Why is it that conservatives get their butt handed to them in the last election and the next thing you here from them is talk of revolt? This sounds like a kid on the school yard getting mad and taking his ball home.

Flash, its 1859/1860 all over agian - 1860 - today are the very same identicial condtions, a mirror image. by the way flash wanna pay my rent:D

[rhet 2]

Flash, its 1859/1860 all over agian - 1860 - today are the very same identicial condtions, a mirror image. by the way flash wanna pay my rent:D

Except no way we use physical violence to stop the liberal hell world building.

Instead, we take control of every aspect of our own socio-cultural existences -- FIRE the stupid son of a bitch school board and/or principal and/or teacher who DARES spew that sick disgusting animal sewage in our schools.

And fire the damned city council members.

And fire the damned worthless freaked out INJUSTICE ADDICTS wearing judicial robes and put their bastardized CRIME LOVING asses behind bars with the murderers and thugs and thieves and villainous humanity haters they aided and abetted with their disgustingly IMMORAL INDECENT AND DESTRUCTIVE corruption of the legal system. A defense attorney who lies his/her ass off in order to get their client "off the hook" goes to prison, too, right along with the thrice-damned CORRUPT cops and prosecutors.

And fire the damned politicians, putting their asses behind the same bars as their PET DOGS in the so-called "legal profession."

Rewrite the damned laws these liberals have so perverted to legalize their murderous destructive vicious predations on innocent and helpless kids and honest, responsible adults.

And run out of town any damned sociopaths who think the moral depravity of imperial Roman senators and emperors is a good way to live -- because all the moral depravity and corruption shoved down our collective throats since the 1960s has gotten us is hundreds of thousands of dead kids and bankrupt helpless going nowhere adults surviving behind locked doors, living in terror of every stranger they see "just in case" this unknown turns out to be another monster fed and empowered by liberal social corruption.

REVERSE the MORAL AND SOCIAL DEPRAVITY of the past 40 years.

ZERO tolerance for liberalism and its disgusting bestiality.

[Canoedude]

Why is it that conservatives get their butt handed to them in the last election and the next thing you here from them is talk of revolt? This sounds like a kid on the school yard getting mad and taking his ball home.

because the Libs %^$@%@ it all up and then we have to fix it. We are tired of working to "lift up" the lazy, the unskilled and the unmotivated.

You know, this country was born over a revolution that was sparked by a tax revolt. Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

[rhet 2]

:DI was just thinkin the same thing. Americans would really have to have their lives turned upside down before they revolt.....and thats not a good thing. p.s. Some of the Texans "talk" of revolt and breaking off from the states, but pffft....could they really defend themselves?

Maybe not.

But we'd sure as hell give it our best shot and to hell with the consequences.

Because Liberal Hell World isn't fit for human occupancy.

Grave worms are more cultured, wiser, more moral, more constructive, and less barbaric than the Liberal Lords of Vicious Criminality now ruling from DC. And a hell of a lot better company to share communal existence with, to boot.

[Old_Mil]

NO ONE can destroy America -- because America is an IDEAL -- a set of values centered on the principle that all humanity -- including Iraqis -- are entitled to life, liberty, and opportunity to pursue whatever happiness they define for themselves.

Well, your understanding of our own history is quite wrong. For instance, John Adams himself said that our constitution was only fit for "a moral and religious people" and unsuited to the governance of any other.

America is NOT a political system, it is NOT an economic system -- it is a CULTURE based on humanist beliefs and values that block nasty little "me me me me me" screaming meemie spoiled brats from doing any damned thing they want, regardless of who they destroy in the process.

See above. America is in no way based on a humanist anything, because the founders realized that a people who did not govern their individual lives by the standards set forth by a higher power could not be governed in the manner they envisioned.

Humanism is garbage. It's the socially acceptable cloak that the atheist puts on before he goes out in public to disguise his self worship. If you don't believe me, go look up the humanist manifesto. Then study some philosophy and history and take a look at human nature.

[rhet 2]

Well, your understanding of our own history is quite wrong. For instance, John Adams himself said that our constitution was only fit for "a moral and religious people" and unsuited to the governance of any other.



See above. America is in no way based on a humanist anything, because the founders realized that a people who did not govern their individual lives by the standards set forth by a higher power could not be governed in the manner they envisioned.

Humanism is garbage. It's the socially acceptable cloak that the atheist puts on before he goes out in public to disguise his self worship. If you don't believe me, go look up the humanist manifesto. Then study some philosophy and history and take a look at human nature.

Silly.

Humanism IS CHRISTIAN BASED.

It derives from the belief that ALL human beings are CREATED by God and "endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness."

While I grant you atheistic humanism has no sound authoritative basis for that belief other than their own personal arbitrariness, humanism actually dates back to what some philosophers call the Noahic Covenant.

But few modern education products are able to make the connections between the Flood, Sodom and Gamorah, the destruction of Egypt, of Caanan, Babylon, Persia, then Greece and Rome, to see the interconnectivity with the Christianized/Judaized Graeco-Roman reform culture that is basic to the Bill of Rights and American culture norms. It is that reformed Graeco-Roman republican social formation, influenced by biblical moral values, that forms the heart of modern humanism -- liberalism being the antithesis, the old liscentious brutality of self-indulgence that earmarked the Roman ruling elite all the way up to their Cut and Run game in 495, when they abandoned the "hoi peloi" to save their own necks from the barbarians they themselves empowered.

And, yes, it is extremely amusing to hear a God Hater screaming about somebody like Milosovic or the Janjaweed thugs -- or even the Southern slave trade -- since they haven't clue one WHY such behavioral norms make them so angry. The heighth of irrationality.

But, hey, they're still at least yelping about humanist priniciples, even if they haven't got clue one where those principles originated -- and would have **** fits if they did.

[Jalend Skyr]

There wont be any revolutions in the United States.

Americans are too lazy and too careless to put that much effort into changing something.


You right..as long as they get their HDTV, XBox, 6 pack, and smokes they will never rise up :/

[ChrisSpencer]

Maybe not.

But we'd sure as hell give it our best shot and to hell with the consequences.

Because Liberal Hell World isn't fit for human occupancy.

Grave worms are more cultured, wiser, more moral, more constructive, and less barbaric than the Liberal Lords of Vicious Criminality now ruling from DC. And a hell of a lot better company to share communal existence with, to boot.

I wouldn't mind living in a Texas - Louisiana - Alabama - Mississippi - Georgia - South Carolina united country (other southern states are optional too). Take the Florida pan-handle too. The rest of Florida can join with Cuba.

[rhet 2]

I wouldn't mind living in a Texas - Louisiana - Alabama - Mississippi - Georgia - South Carolina united country (other southern states are optional too). Take the Florida pan-handle too. The rest of Florida can join with Cuba.

I would.

I've got lots of strong, decent, honorable and honest friends living outside Middle America.

And I'd feel like a real **** abandoning them to sink or swim in the Hippie Sewage World without hope of getting rescued.

In other words, I refuse to cut and run.

This time, we Stand and Defend -- and win -- or die trying.

Hippie Sewage Cleanup on Aisle America, please.

[mboncher]

You right..as long as they get their HDTV, XBox, 6 pack, and smokes they will never rise up :/
Actually, bill collectors call it the "5 C's". It's amazing that these 5 Cs come before paying bills or acting responsibly. As long as nothing disrupts these, we'll never see an uprising.

Car
Cigarettes
Cable TV
Cell Phone
Computer/Internet

Karl Marx was wrong. Religion isn't the opiate of the masses, creature comforts are.

[Linda Despres]

First of all, the conservatives didn't get their buts handed to them. Uneducated, uninformed,people voted who had no business voting when they were clueless. They put us all in jeopardy. Now you can be proud that your grandchildren will be toting the bill for your uninformed vote. I do blame the republicans as well. The Hill is full of liers, cheats and criminals! We need to start over....

[Linda Despres]

I would.

I've got lots of strong, decent, honorable and honest friends living outside Middle America.

And I'd feel like a real **** abandoning them to sink or swim in the Hippie Sewage World without hope of getting rescued.

In other words, I refuse to cut and run.

This time, we Stand and Defend -- and win -- or die trying.

Hippie Sewage Cleanup on Aisle America, please.
We are only going to win our country back if we find honest people to run it. I don't care what you call yourself, Republican or Democrat. just give it to us streight, without any Lies!!!!!!!!!!!! Unfortunately that won't happen.

[Linda Despres]

You right..as long as they get their HDTV, XBox, 6 pack, and smokes they will never rise up :/
The uninformed did change things. They voted Obama. I hope they get information the next time they decide to mess with everyone elses lives. my husband said,"people are smart, a republican will get in office," I said haven't you been out lately? People are idiots, they are going to vote for Obama. I wish I was wrong.

[Linda Despres]

Actually, bill collectors call it the "5 C's". It's amazing that these 5 Cs come before paying bills or acting responsibly. As long as nothing disrupts these, we'll never see an uprising.

Car
Cigarettes
Cable TV
Cell Phone
Computer/Internet

Karl Marx was wrong. Religion isn't the opiate of the masses, creature comforts are.
We should all thank the smokers and such. They pay for our childrens education and a hoste of other things. It keeps your home owners tax down. Thank you for smoking.

[rhet 2]

We are only going to win our country back if we find honest people to run it. I don't care what you call yourself, Republican or Democrat. just give it to us streight, without any Lies!!!!!!!!!!!! Unfortunately that won't happen.

Like I said, Hippie Sewage Cleanup, Aisle America.

Start with the Imperatus Obaminatus and his horde of vulgares subsisting in the Village of the Damned on the labor of honest people.

And his Senate and House of Mental Putrifaction where the Soul Dead dwell.

Get your STATE legislature to sponsor an amendment MANDATING term limits and another mandating NOT ONE THIN DIME in campaign contributions, not even from the candidate's own family -- they all get exactly the same amount out of the public treasury -- no more buying of votes through LIES AND ENDLESS BLATHER on the damned tv for the Soul Dead Worthless Vulgares to watch while they smoke their brains into mush with the Weed from Hell.

[treadmill]

We are heading for a big crunch, and the world along with us. We can only speculate what it is going to look like, however, the signs are there. We can all feel it.

America has lost its moral compass. We have a regime in power which for the first time does not even offer the pretension of believing in the founding values of this country. The "change" proposed by this President is evidently a "change" away from the founding principles of this country (it sounds like "anywhere but there").

A hard rain is going to fall, either from our internal economy or from an outside attack. Given the rudderless leadership we currently have, devoid of patriotism, will the country be able to withstand such an onslaught? Will we be able to pull together?

The near future will either be a shining moment in our history or our absolute darkest. It depends on whether we can dig deep into our souls to find that spirit. It depends on whether years on instant gratification has robbed us of the will to even try. It depends, ultimately, not on that inexperienced young man in the White House, but on each and every one of us.

[rhet 2]

We are heading for a big crunch, and the world along with us. We can only speculate what it is going to look like, however, the signs are there. We can all feel it.

America has lost its moral compass. We have a regime in power which for the first time does not even offer the pretension of believing in the founding values of this country. The "change" proposed by this President is evidently a "change" away from the founding principles of this country (it sounds like "anywhere but there").

A hard rain is going to fall, either from our internal economy or from an outside attack. Given the rudderless leadership we currently have, devoid of patriotism, will the country be able to withstand such an onslaught? Will we be able to pull together?

The near future will either be a shining moment in our history or our absolute darkest. It depends on whether we can dig deep into our souls to find that spirit. It depends on whether years on instant gratification has robbed us of the will to even try. It depends, ultimately, not on that inexperienced young man in the White House, but on each and every one of us.

On the contrary, the Left has NOT lost its "moral compass" -- same compass the bastards have had all along -- find fools to enslave and suck dry so they can WALLOW in riches just like the Roman senatorial BASTARD THUGS did.

And Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Dodd -- the THUGS AND GOONS in Congress ARE NOT AMERICA.

They haven't got clue one what America is, was, and WILL REMAIN.

And decent, honest, true Americans haven't lost their "moral compass," either.

Filth is filth -- and we can and do smell the garbage coming at us from this GOVERNMENT OF THUGS AND PREDATORY ANIMALS totally lacking in anything remotely resembling civilized and decent behavior.

We just have to stand up and tell them what total PIG **** they really are.

[mboncher]

We should all thank the smokers and such. They pay for our childrens education and a hoste of other things. It keeps your home owners tax down. Thank you for smoking.
Nice in theory, but most tax conscious smokers just go to the nearest indian reservation and get tax free butts. or they help grow the rapidly increasing black market in tax violating cigarettes. it's becoming so lucrative that gangs are starting to set up shop around the smuggling of this item.

Oh...and with all the smoking bans and persecutions going on... how long you think that tax is gonna be effective anyway?

[mboncher]

First of all, the conservatives didn't get their buts handed to them. Uneducated, uninformed,people voted who had no business voting when they were clueless. They put us all in jeopardy. Now you can be proud that your grandchildren will be toting the bill for your uninformed vote. I do blame the republicans as well. The Hill is full of liers, cheats and criminals! We need to start over....
The fun part is? These poor uneducated voters just enrolled in a masters class in political deception, deceit and trickery. Soon they'll graduate with the same level of disgust we conservatives have had for a while now.

2012. Don't expect a landslide for anyone but a conservative, or anyone NOT Obama. He's gonna be the scapegoat; right or wrong.

[Dr Alignment]

As I look at what has happened since I graduated from High School, class of 70', I see the result of a 40 year agenda coming to fruition.

The distruction of the family unit along with not instilling a moral compass in our kids has led to others instilling what was missing. Unfortunately, people like Professor Ayers are now filling their heads with absolute crap.

There is an old saying, "You can't talk your way out of situations you behaved your way in to". Conservatives are like luke warm water. We have lost our passion and conviction about what is right. Apathy has set in and people slouch deeper into that recliner and sit around and don't take action. In the meantime, the uninformed and uneducated have voted some absolued idiots into power.

When I say uneducated I am not saying unschooled or un-degreed. Being educated means you have developed the ability to take in information and have the wisdom and judgement to test drive it for accuracy before believing it. You have learned to test the knowledge against time tested principles that are enabling when understood. Just because you got a degree, even a masters or doctorate, does not mean you are intelligent. It means you have mastered collecting information, passing tests and finishing something.

Education is supposed to help us make sound decisions, reason, use logic, exercise common sense and do the right thing. There is a huge difference between being educated or having wisdom and sound judgement. Look at Tim Geitner. Heck, my 10 year old grandson has a better grip on the right way to manage his little savings account than this tax dodging, wall street pandering liar.

We need leaders with a strong moral compass, the ability to operate from a principled center and who stay firmly aligned with the foundational principles this country and the constitution that guides it were founded on.

OBAMA and his band of constitution destroyers are working overtime trying to undo what our founding fathers established. In two months he has done more harm than good. Like in times past, it will take all americans, regardless of race, creed, color, party or societal level, to turn this mess around. This is no longer about party affiliation, it is about SAVING OUR CONSTITUTION.

Make no mistake about it. We must undo the strangle-hold the DEMOCRATS have on Congress to get a sense of balance and reason back in the house on the POTOMAC. If we do not re-align the balance of power, AMERICA is going to be in more debt, have less ability and resources to protect itself, and OBAMA will finish the work BILL CLINTON started, selling us and our country out to foreign powers.

WAKE UP AMERICA! OBAMA is not our savior. He played on the emotions of young, uninformed voters and LIED HIS WAY TO THE WHITE HOUSE. He is definitely bringing about CHANGE...but it is NOT CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN.

RM

[rhet 2]

As I look at what has happened since I graduated from High School, class of 70', I see the result of a 40 year agenda coming to fruition.

The distruction of the family unit along with not instilling a moral compass in our kids has led to others instilling what was missing. Unfortunately, people like Professor Ayers are now filling their heads with absolute crap.

There is an old saying, "You can't talk your way out of situations you behaved your way in to". Conservatives are like luke warm water. We have lost our passion and conviction about what is right. Apathy has set in and people slouch deeper into that recliner and sit around and don't take action. In the meantime, the uninformed and uneducated have voted some absolued idiots into power.

When I say uneducated I am not saying unschooled or un-degreed. Being educated means you have developed the ability to take in information and have the wisdom and judgement to test drive it for accuracy before believing it. You have learned to test the knowledge against time tested principles that are enabling when understood. Just because you got a degree, even a masters or doctorate, does not mean you are intelligent. It means you have mastered collecting information, passing tests and finishing something.

Education is supposed to help us make sound decisions, reason, use logic, exercise common sense and do the right thing. There is a huge difference between being educated or having wisdom and sound judgement. Look at Tim Geitner. Heck, my 10 year old grandson has a better grip on the right way to manage his little savings account than this tax dodging, wall street pandering liar.

We need leaders with a strong moral compass, the ability to operate from a principled center and who stay firmly aligned with the foundational principles this country and the constitution that guides it were founded on.

OBAMA and his band of constitution destroyers are working overtime trying to undo what our founding fathers established. In two months he has done more harm than good. Like in times past, it will take all americans, regardless of race, creed, color, party or societal level, to turn this mess around. This is no longer about party affiliation, it is about SAVING OUR CONSTITUTION.

Make no mistake about it. We must undo the strangle-hold the DEMOCRATS have on Congress to get a sense of balance and reason back in the house on the POTOMAC. If we do not re-align the balance of power, AMERICA is going to be in more debt, have less ability and resources to protect itself, and OBAMA will finish the work BILL CLINTON started, selling us and our country out to foreign powers.

WAKE UP AMERICA! OBAMA is not our savior. He played on the emotions of young, uninformed voters and LIED HIS WAY TO THE WHITE HOUSE. He is definitely bringing about CHANGE...but it is NOT CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN.

RM

OH, well said! A man after my own heart.

SCHOOLING is NOT EDUCATION -- and I don't give a flip how many degrees you've got, how much money you've got, what kind of profession you work in, YOU CAN BE STUPID AS PIG **** despite all those things.

Stupid, ill-informed, UNEDUCATED, IRRATIONAL, hyper-emotionalized FREAKY ANIMALS who destroy the essence of humanity they were born with in order to indulge the animal lusts and drives and desires in perpetual pursuit of pig swill worthless garbage to wallow in.

Obama and the world's most INCOMPETENT CRUEL IRRESPONSIBLE AND STUPID ANIMALS bought and paid for power in Washington --

And now they use OUR MONEY to buy their way into still more ABUSIVE CRUEL INJUST AND VICIOUS government BY ANIMALS wallowing in the filth of their own total moral degradation.

They use OUR MONEY to buy OUR SOULS, one town and one county and one state at a time.

GET IN THE FACE of your STATE legislature and DEMAND AMENDMENT TO LIMIT POLITICAL POWER BY THESE ANTI_SOCIAL FREAKS:

1) term limits to block vicious inhuman disgusting irresponsible and STUPID power PIGS like Pelosi from ever having more than 6 years maximum to damage and destroy all honest and hopeful opportunity for human beings to be human instead of animals cloned after her own total vicious uncivilized and indecent slimy self

2) campaign reforms to force all politicians to rely on only ONE source of funding -- EQUAL access to money out of the federal or state treasuries so that NEVER AGAIN can an egotistical HUMANITY HATER like that total son of a bitch Obama can take money from enemies of the United States to buy political power by making empty LIES and TREACHEROUS promises from the filth of his totally corrupt and DISHONORABLE bastardized animal's heart

3) a permanent and POWERFUL APOLITICAL citizen's only Grand Jury tasked with the investigation and prosecution of POLITICIAN CRIMES and violations of the Constitution -- including power to prosecute SCOTUS judges for their own violations of the Constitution -- a citizen's grand jury which would already have Pelosi, Dodd, Franks, AND OBAMA facing trial for their cruel INJUST HATRED for the Rule of Law and the Will of the People.

As Patrick Henry told the 1775 Congress, this is NOT THE TIME FOR SILENCE, not the time for being polite.

The issue is "freedom or slavery" and it's time for IN YOUR FACE BRUTAL TRUTH AND HONESTY, regardless of the offense given, the time for WIDE OPEN AND FULL DEBATE of the issues, regardless of social niceties, for we MUST FIND THE TRUTH and FIND A WAY TO FACE AND DEAL WITH hellish situations developing in every township, every city, every county, every state in the nation.

Time for IN YOUR FACE CONFRONTATION with the enemies of human dignity, human life, human liberty, human right to pursue personally defined happiness.

[BARR68]

Hi,

The American people, and the media, don't ever tell the truth about how we got into the pickle that we're now in.

General Sun, who was Chinese, wrote way back when gunboat diplomacy was the truth of the day, and said:

"The "round eyes" are so totally stupid. They have a word called "peace" and they believe that is what is happening if there are no armed hostilities
They do not recognize that nations are at war at all times. Armed hostilities are the result of a failed operation. Hostilities do not become "peace", when there is no armed conflict. The wise leaders have war plans in place, which have nothing to do with armed combat".

We have lost the war, to Iraq, Iran, Syria, China, Libya etc. The Chinese won the war, without firing a shot. Because, unlike when I graduated from High School, in 1949, we no longer have any jobs available. We used to manufacture rubber tires, radios, stereos, TVs, shoes, linen ... on, and on.

But, we decided to allow China to become a "most favored nation", and we imported their products (and we supposedly had a market for our goods.
Such as, computers, electronics, high tech, etc, etc. They didn't buy any of that from us, they bribed workers to give it to them, and we did nothing.

So, point A)
We lost the war, and became a people who had no real jobs, because everything was made in China. And, they bought banks, real estate, on and on.

B) To "save money", we "oursourced" all of the help systems, and a host of other items, to people in India. We lost jobs of personnel in computer help and update. And, my son works for Microsoft, and he tells me that (get this)
75% of their employees, are not American citizens, but foreigners, most of all persons from India.

How could we **not** have a major economic problem?

Now, here's the clincer, following General Sun. Why did we have an economic collapse? SIMPLE: The OPEC nations, (our enemies), raised the price of gas, from in the $1 range, all the way up to $4.00.
THAT is what caused our depression. All the credit, and alll of the salaries, and all of the goods we sold in the stores, rested upon the price of gasoline remaining in the $1+ range.

And now, our government has just spent trillions of dollars, with nothing to be it's standard ... (we went off the gold standard years ago ...), and all our money is based upon the integrity of our financial system.

NOW ... why has no one in any of the media, spoken and told that reason,
and, our Congress and President just signed a bill, causting trillions of dollars, to "stimulate our economy". Where does it come from, and what is the support behind it? Nothing ... we are simply printing fake money, with no support, and in the Weimar Republic after WWI, they did that, and eventually it took a wheel barrow of money, to buy a loaf of bread.

Last of all, why didn't we learn a lesson from why things went down the pot before? You go figure. Because, I'm watching the price of gasoline, and in a few days, it will cost $2.,and then each day, as now, the price will go up about 3-4 cents. I'm reminded of the story of boiling a frog."

Tell me this, when it reaches $4. or more, what then will happen to our economy? It will grind to a total, and final collapse.

N.B. The Chinese are staging exercises, and sailing a very big fleet into the straits of Formosa. Are we in any position to do anything about it? And, we are threating the North Korean with UN sanctions if they launch the ICBM.
And, how can we be certain that it will not travel across Russia, and end up in Iran?

I grew up in the 30's, so that I know all about depressions, and how terrible they are. **But**, no one had ICBM, capable of carrying a nuclear warhead which the North Koreans have. Someone, somewhere, soon, I predict, set off either a atomic device, or even more likely, a dirty bomb somewhere here in the United States ...

Tell me I'm wrong.
Barr68

[Linda Despres]

I called the Hannity radio show yesterday to make a comment on the government being run like a business and the tax payers are the investors. I wanted to ask Hannity if he recieved his portfolio yet from the government. The lady who screens his calls said that I was to general, and hung up on me. I was just thinking how nice it is that some people have a forum Like T.V. and radio to air their oppinions but the rest of us are subject to an inconsiderate person like her. She just hung up on me. You know how long I have tried to get through to try to air my veiw? I am insulted!!!!!

[Linda Despres]

I don't think so. Not all smokers are going to the reservations to buy their cigs. Go to the nearest quicky mart and ask them how many packs or cartons they sell a day. Then add an additional 1.35 a pack. Philip Morris just raised the price on their cigs. .70 cents and the Feds another .65cents. That doesn't inclued the state tax. Your wrong, not everyone is a criminal. Well, everyone in the Government is.

[Linda Despres]

Liberals don't want to fight, they want to talk the terrorist to death. I think the people in Texas would do alot better.

[Getty Girl]

There's quite a lot of talk in Texas, believe it or not, of once more Texas becoming an independent republic as it was from 1836 to 1845. Personally, I'd be all for it. By the time B.O. drags the country down, it's going to be a far different country than ever before, a "change" for the worse. At least Texas could make it on its own.


If they do I'm on my way......:dance: