Rihanna and Chris Brown Reconciled

[newyorkjetsfan]

Reports indicated that Rihanna and Chris Brown had reconciled weeks after Chris was arrested for allegedly assaulted her.

I don't understand why she wants to go back to him. Why do most women go back to the men who beat them?

[RogerDodger]

Why do most women go back to the men who beat them?

Stupidity?

[FidelisAdMortem]

This is very common.

Women are a leading cause of domestic abuse.

I say this b/c repeatedly going back causes for such abuse to continue.

[Theranna]

She must really think she's "in love" with him. He'll just be more careful about beating her up before award shows.

Clearly, he did a good job of battering her spirit enough so she'd consider going back to a man who'd hit her. That's the one thing no man I'm ever involved with wants to do, hit me that is. I can be one seriously cold-hearted little lady.

[angelicmadrigal]

The thing that gets me is she's beautiful and successful she could ahve any man she wants so....it's extra mind boggling for me.

[FidelisAdMortem]

This has nothing to do with looks. Its psychological.

[Dreamy]

The thing that gets me is she's beautiful and successful she could ahve any man she wants so....it's extra mind boggling for me.

Women with low self-esteem are some of the saddest people. Looks and wealth have no bearing on who you are inside or who you are not.

Well he has certainly learned a lesson even if she has not. Too bad the lesson he learned was not a good one.

[angelicmadrigal]

Women with low self-esteem are some of the saddest people. Looks and wealth have no bearing on who you are inside or who you are not.

Which is why it boggles my mind. I would think at some point you could just rationlize to yourself...."wait, there's all these other guys that want me, why am I puttting up with your crap?!"

[Dreamy]

Which is why it boggles my mind. I would think at some point you could just rationlize to yourself...."wait, there's all these other guys that want me, why am I puttting up with your crap?!"

You would think Angel but remember you are thinking with your mind not hers. A woman(or man) who lacks self esteem uses sex,drugs,booze,physical abuse,food,even excessive exercise and dieting etc.... to fill that void.

[angelicmadrigal]

You would think Angel but remember you are thinking with your mind not hers. A woman(or man) who lacks self esteem uses sex,drugs,booze,physical abuse,food,even excessive exercise and dieting etc.... to fill that void.

She should get a kitten. Kittiens make people happy :)

[Theranna]

Which is why it boggles my mind. I would think at some point you could just rationlize to yourself...."wait, there's all these other guys that want me, why am I puttting up with your crap?!"

She doesn't see it as crap. The cycle of abuse is slow and insidious and most people never see it for what it is until it's way too late.

It begins with your mate gently correcting you... then he points out how your good friends and family aren't as good to you as you think and how he's much better for you than they are. Slowly, your whole life begins to revolve around him completely. The silliest decisions go through to him first. And because of that, his approval becomes vital to you. And slowly, he begins to chip away at your self-esteem. Mentally, he has equated you to a crumb and those brief moments when he elevates you to human level, those matter more to you than anything else.

But here's the catch, no one is perfect all the time, specially not you; I mean, come on, he's been working at destroying your belief in yourself for so long, how can you be any good? And when you do **** up, you **** up so bad that you need to be corrected, either by more psychological and emotional putdowns or by physical harm. It's the basic carrot trick, if you don't **** up, I won't hit you and an old favorite of abusers is how can I love you when you are so hell-bent on displeasing me?

These women, and men, are so isolated so they rely on one single person for love and love-starved people will do anything, and I mean absolutely anything, for a loving look or touch.

When do they come to their senses? A lot of times, it comes when the abuser threatens to hurt a child or when they get so hurt that the friends and family the abused has pushed away help them see that emotional, psychological and physical violence has nothing to do with love. Until that time, nothing can be done. The victim has to will themselves out of the cycle of abuse.

There's also a cultural component to this. West Indian families are big on sticking it out through bad relationships, which includes adultery and abuse. I've seen it more than once.

[angelicmadrigal]

She doesn't see it as crap.


That's what I don't understand how it isn't OBVIOUS. I guess because my dad treated my mom like crap I just don't put up with it. So it seems glaringly obvious to me when a guy is trying to pull crap like that.

[traditional_woman]

She fell in love with him, now she doesn't know how to fall ''out'' of love with him, so she goes back. Let's just hope he doesn't kill her next time

[Theranna]

She fell in love with him, now she doesn't know how to fall ''out'' of love with him, so she goes back. Let's just hope he doesn't kill her next time

No worries, most of the upcoming abuse will be emotional and psychological. After all, she did something to upset him and that's her fault. He'll hug her in public but will make her life a living hell.

[Hadassah]

Reports indicated that Rihanna and Chris Brown had reconciled weeks after Chris was arrested for allegedly assaulted her.

I don't understand why she wants to go back to him. Why do most women go back to the men who beat them?

Quite often, it's because this is "normal" for them. They're "used" to it and having a healthy relationship scares them.

[bryan92]

This is very common.

Women are a leading cause of domestic abuse.

I say this b/c repeatedly going back causes for such abuse to continue.
And escalate.

[BillBrown]

Nine different people have replied to this thread.
I'm amazed that many people know who Rihanna and Chris Brown are. I never heard of them.

[traditional_woman]

Nine different people have replied to this thread.
I'm amazed that many people know who Rihanna and Chris Brown are. I never heard of them.

Well when every news station and magazine cover is talking about them, it's hard not to know who they are.

[FidelisAdMortem]

Nine different people have replied to this thread.
I'm amazed that many people know who Rihanna and Chris Brown are. I never heard of them.

Im in the loop, Chief.

[jeepers]

Well when every news station and magazine cover is talking about them, it's hard not to know who they are.


I don't know their music but yes it's been all over the media so that is why I know about them.

[jeepers]

Reports indicated that Rihanna and Chris Brown had reconciled weeks after Chris was arrested for allegedly assaulted her.



Dumb as a bag of rocks. :(

This is the reason why the DA can prosecute whether or not the victim cooperates. He'll still face charges, thank God.

Someone needs to get that girl into counseling before she gets dead.

[Remus Lupin]

Dumb as a bag of rocks. :(

This is the reason why the DA can prosecute whether or not the victim cooperates. He'll still face charges, thank God.

Someone needs to get that girl into counseling before she gets dead.

I have to agree with you.
Sadly there are women who KEEPS going back with their abuser for reasons already stated by the other posters on here.
It will continue until the woman (or man) is either wise up or ends up dead.

[sgdp]

*Sigh*

And I'm going to a pretrial conference this week as a witness to such an incident.

It's truly a sad prospect. Women are very fearful to leave for many reasons. They think they won't get anyone else; they're afraid they'll only **** the guy off more; or one of the worst is liking the "tough boy" act.

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

Dumb as a bag of rocks. :(

This is the reason why the DA can prosecute whether or not the victim cooperates. He'll still face charges, thank God.

Someone needs to get that girl into counseling before she gets dead.
She's no longer a victim, she's a volunteer.

[Gaetano "Tommy" Lucchese]

Nice to see a celebrity legitimizing going back to their abuser to "change" them.

[Gaetano "Tommy" Lucchese]

Nine different people have replied to this thread.
I'm amazed that many people know who Rihanna and Chris Brown are. I never heard of them.

Unless you've been under a rock in a cave on Mars for the last year and a half, how have you not heard the song "Umbrella?"

[traditional_woman]

Keep in mind people that they are very young, she JUST turned 21, and he's only 19 or 20. Most of us here replying are in our 30's or beyond. They don't have the life experience and wisdom that we do. I made dumb decisions and choices when i was that young too. This is not to say that it isn't sad, b/c it is, but let's keep the age factor in perspective.

[Buffalo]

Keep in mind people that they are very young, she JUST turned 21, and he's only 19 or 20. Most of us here replying are in our 30's or beyond. They don't have the life experience and wisdom that we do. I made dumb decisions and choices when i was that young too. This is not to say that it isn't sad, b/c it is, but let's keep the age factor in perspective.
At 19 I knew not to hit my girlfriend. Not only did I know not to, I also knew only a piece of crap would do such a thing.

[super cool ski instructor]

Unless you've been under a rock in a cave on Mars for the last year and a half, how have you not heard the song "Umbrella?"

Not been under a rock, in a cave, and I missed my flight to Mars...and I have never heard Umbrella.

[Buffalo]

Not been under a rock, in a cave, and I missed my flight to Mars...and I have never heard Umbrella.
Consider yourself lucky. ;)

[traditional_woman]

At 19 I knew not to hit my girlfriend. Not only did I know not to, I also knew only a piece of crap would do such a thing.


Good on you, however my comments was directed at the comments made over her taking him back. Of course some women regardless of age keep taking their abuser back . I guess everyone has their own lightbulb moment at some point in time.

[Buffalo]

Good on you, however my comments was directed at the comments made over her taking him back. Of course some women regardless of age keep taking their abuser back . I guess everyone has their own lightbulb moment at some point in time.
I understand, I just don't think it is an age thing.

[Dreamy]

Keep in mind people that they are very young, she JUST turned 21, and he's only 19 or 20. Most of us here replying are in our 30's or beyond. They don't have the life experience and wisdom that we do. I made dumb decisions and choices when i was that young too. This is not to say that it isn't sad, b/c it is, but let's keep the age factor in perspective.


Sorry TA,youth is not going to excuse this reckless behavior,especially for the man. Beating on someone was never a choice for me at any age and neither was it a choice of my boyfriends. This relationship should have ended with the beating.

[super cool ski instructor]

I am going to go out on a limb here and say that I think there is a difference between hitting your girlfriend, and beating the crap out of her.
And I will even go so far as to say that sometimes a woman deserves to be hit...in the same way a man would deserve to get hit. If women demand to be treated as equals then we can't be selective on when we are treated as equals.

That being said...Chris Brown beat the crap out of Rhianna...this was no little slap...and she is just contributing by going back to him.


Please, my sisters on this board, don't hate me too much for saying what I did above.

[angelicmadrigal]

Nice to see a celebrity legitimizing going back to their abuser to "change" them.

Did she say that? If she did I've got news for her, it didn't work on my dad, it hasn't worked on the vast majority of abusers, it in all likelihood won't work on this guy. There is a time to throw in the towel and say "screw you buddy!"

[angelicmadrigal]

And I will even go so far as to say that sometimes a woman deserves to be hit...in the same way a man would deserve to get hit.

Let's just put it this way, some man puts his hands on me PERIOD, he isn't going to like the result.

[Dreamy]

I am going to go out on a limb here and say that I think there is a difference between hitting your girlfriend, and beating the crap out of her.
And I will even go so far as to say that sometimes a woman deserves to be hit...in the same way a man would deserve to get hit. If women demand to be treated as equals then we can't be selective on when we are treated as equals.

That being said...Chris Brown beat the crap out of Rhianna...this was no little slap...and she is just contributing by going back to him.


Please, my sisters on this board, don't hate me too much for saying what I did above.


Don't hate you and I do know what you are saying Ski but a slap across the face and a beating are too different things. If a couple are at war and he slaps her or she him there is some wiggle room to decide if this was an isolated incident. But beating the crap out of someone is a sign of some deep seated anger issues and going back to your beater is a sign of some deep seated self-esteem issues.

[super cool ski instructor]

Let's just put it this way, some man puts his hands on me PERIOD, he isn't going to like the result.

Oh trust me....the same here.

I am just saying that not all women are little Mary Sue's who are 100% innocent in every domestic violence situation.

If a woman attacks a man...in my opinion, he has every right to defend himself.
I am not a woman who feels that a man never has a right to put his hands on a woman.

[super cool ski instructor]

Don't hate you and I do know what you are saying Ski but a slap across the face and a beating are too different things. If a couple are at war and he slaps her or she him there is some wiggle room to decide if this was an isolated incident. But beating the crap out of someone is a sign of some deep seated anger issues and going back to your beater is a sign of some deep seated self-esteem issues.

I completely agree.

[Dreamy]

Oh trust me....the same here.

I am just saying that not all women are little Mary Sue's who are 100% innocent in every domestic violence situation.

If a woman attacks a man...in my opinion, he has every right to defend himself.
I am not a woman who feels that a man never has a right to put his hands on a woman.


I just think in any relationship if the woman or man is that out of control emotionally hitting is not going to solve the real issues but leaving will. Break it off if the woman is a horror to deal with in the relationship.

Adults hitting each other in anger or because emotions are out of control is not a good sign that the relationship should continue.

[super cool ski instructor]

Yesterday I was driving home from work and had my radio on scan and when it stopped on a "black station" here in Detroit they were talking about the Rhianna/Brown situation. So I stopped the scan to listen.

And what shocked me was how many black women called in saying they think that everyone needs to mind their own business and that people's domestic violence issues are a private thing between the couple. They were actually sticking up for Chris Brown because he "always seems like such a good guy...in interviews".

Then they were talking about how "sistahs often deserve to get the crap kicked out of them because, unlike white chicks, they did not stand down to their men"

So I got to thinking...is this a culturally accepted thing? I sure hope not.

[jeepers]

Unless you've been under a rock in a cave on Mars for the last year and a half, how have you not heard the song "Umbrella?"

Hard to believe for a young person that people can live perfectly fullfilled lives without listening to the Top 40. :lol:

In my 20's I knew everyone who sang everything.

In my 40's I'm just glad to keep my schedule straight.

:))

It happened gradually. One day I knew it all and the next I realized that I not only didn't know the songs, I didn't know the artists and then laughed when I realized that I just didn't care.

There is a lot of musical crap out there, I figure that it's not much of a loss.

[super cool ski instructor]

I just think in any relationship if the woman or man is that out of control emotionally hitting is not going to solve the real issues but leaving will. Break it off if the woman is a horror to deal with in the relationship.

Adults hitting each other in anger or because emotions are out of control is not a good sign that the relationship should continue.

Oh I agree...and you will not see me championing any of this behavior. I am just saying that I do on some level understand it.

Let me be clear to everyone reading....I do not understand beating the crap out of somebody...male or female.
But there are times when I do get so angry that I feel like popping somebody one. And I also understand that there are people out there who unfortunatly do not have to restraint not to do that.

I do not condone this behavior, but I do understand it to an extent.

[Dreamy]

Yesterday I was driving home from work and had my radio on scan and when it stopped on a "black station" here in Detroit they were talking about the Rhianna/Brown situation. So I stopped the scan to listen.

And what shocked me was how many black women called in saying they think that everyone needs to mind their own business and that people's domestic violence issues are a private thing between the couple. They were actually sticking up for Chris Brown because he "always seems like such a good guy...in interviews".

Then they were talking about how "sistahs often deserve to get the crap kicked out of them because, unlike white chicks, they did not stand down to their men"

So I got to thinking...is this a culturally accepted thing? I sure hope not.



Good question and one I do not know because I am white and have never been abused. But I believe there are white women who also believe their domestic abuse is a private matter. Problem is some of these women still call the cops over and over for rescue and then do not follow up legally.

[Lady Liberty]

Reports indicated that Rihanna and Chris Brown had reconciled weeks after Chris was arrested for allegedly assaulted her.

I don't understand why she wants to go back to him. Why do most women go back to the men who beat them?


She may think she loves him, but until she chooses to love AND RESPECT herself first she will continue to choose him being happy (... "I promise, baby!... I need you...") over creating a safe and loving home and personal life for herself.

Dysfunction happens to beautiful, talented people too. More importantly, domestic violence usually progresses.... we have not seen the last of this couple's sad relationship drama.

~

[super cool ski instructor]

Good question and one I do not know because I am white and have never been abused. But I believe there are white women who also believe their domestic abuse is a private matter. Problem is some of these women still call the cops over and over for rescue and then do not follow up legally.

Yep, and therein lies the problem.

I wonder.....is this only a self esteem issue? Or are some of these women so in love with being the victim that that is the reason they continually go back.

[super cool ski instructor]

I'm thinking Tina Turner needs to have a talk with this chick.

[Dreamy]

Oh I agree...and you will not see me championing any of this behavior. I am just saying that I do on some level understand it.

Let me be clear to everyone reading....I do not understand beating the crap out of somebody...male or female.
But there are times when I do get so angry that I feel like popping somebody one. And I also understand that there are people out there who unfortunatly do not have to restraint not to do that.

I do not condone this behavior, but I do understand it to an extent.

I know what you mean. Many of us have had the emotions. But not all people hit when angry even if they really really want to hit. We may walk away,grind our teeth,scream and holler,punch something like a wall,call a friend,take a walk....etc....

[super cool ski instructor]

I know what you mean. Many of us have had the emotions. But not all people hit when angry even if they really really want to hit. We may walk away,grind our teeth,scream and holler,punch something like a wall,call a friend,take a walk....etc....

Or have a really stiff drink....:))

[Dreamy]

Yep, and therein lies the problem.

I wonder.....is this only a self esteem issue? Or are some of these women so in love with being the victim that that is the reason they continually go back.


Oh I have no doubt for some there is some of that also. Usually by the time beatings happen a woman has already been accepting verbal and emotional abuse. I think some women are just more prone to accept the unacceptable. Why? I guess someone with training and education in this could answer this better than I but I do know your self-esteem has to be pretty low to let anyone keep abusing you in any manner.

[Dreamy]

Or have a really stiff drink....:))


:)) That can work also. Couples fight,that is pretty much a common bond. But the best fights end with laughter or sex or both not hitting.

[jeepers]

Even slapping someone once in the face is a huge sign that the conflict between BOTH people have crossed a serious line and that they need to end the relationship and get some counseling.

Not kidding, not hyperbole, and I mean exactly what I say. In order to allow that, you have to rationalize in your head that you're justified in your actions. It was the heat of the moment, he/she pushed me too far, she/he hit me first/slept with my best friend/gambled the paycheck/whatever.

What makes one slap different than a beating is that one slap is how it starts. Someone has to throw the first salvo.

But many people don't stop with the first slap. Both sides rationalize it and THAT allows it to continue.

You stick around after a slap, you've just given the signal that this is permissible, no matter what you literally say. You've set up a precident that you will see this again at some point. You've allowed the perpetrator to control the relationship, control you as a human being. You've shifted it from shared power to the beater gets the power. Bully and victim. You've gven an abuser the key to your self-esteem and your miserable future.

You've also most likely written the script for any children that you have or may have together.

Yes, there is a difference between getting a cheek slap and getting the crap beat out of you on a physical level. But there may be no difference at all in the psychological and relationship consequences.

Cut the crap, you don't have to have physical injuries to be injured. You don't have to physically bleed to have a dead spirit. A relationship will not be healthy, it will die and something pathological takes it's place.

[super cool ski instructor]

Oh I have no doubt for some there is some of that also. Usually by the time beatings happen a woman has already been accepting verbal and emotional abuse. I think some women are just more prone to accept the unacceptable. Why? I guess someone with training and education in this could answer this better than I but I do know your self-esteem has to be pretty low to let anyone keep abusing you in any manner.

Yep, and we can try and understand this all day long but thank God that is all we can do because we do not have the personal experience needed to understand.

[Lady Liberty]

Yep, and therein lies the problem.

I wonder.....is this only a self esteem issue? Or are some of these women so in love with being the victim that that is the reason they continually go back.


I think both low self esteem and an unhealthy idea of what love is contributes to the choices a woman makes who finds herself in repeated domestic abuse situations.

To a degree it is socially accepted in some cultures for a man to smack his woman if she is 'disrespectful'. I see couples occasionally in public where the woman behaves like a beaten dog. It is sad. Those couples also have the bleary look of alchoholism or drug issues also. You know that angry energy combined with inebriation issues just lends itself to abuse.

Those women on the radio excusing it.... unbelievable and sad - to think that they're raising children to believe what they believe; it's okay to smack a woman who doesn't stand down to her man.

~

[super cool ski instructor]

Even slapping someone once in the face is a huge sign that the conflict between BOTH people have crossed a serious line and that they need to end the relationship and get some counseling.

Not kidding, not hyperbole, and I mean exactly what I say. In order to allow that, you have to rationalize in your head that you're justified in your actions. It was the heat of the moment, he/she pushed me too far, she/he hit me first/slept with my best friend/gambled the paycheck/whatever.

What makes one slap different than a beating is that one slap is how it starts. Someone has to throw the first salvo.

But many people don't stop with the first slap. Both sides rationalize it and THAT allows it to continue.

You stick around after a slap, you've just given the signal that this is permissible, no matter what you literally say. You've set up a precident that you will see this again at some point. You've allowed the perpetrator to control the relationship, control you as a human being. You've shifted it from shared power to the beater gets the power. Bully and victim. You've gven an abuser the key to your self-esteem and your miserable future.

You've also most likely written the script for any children that you have or may have together.

Yes, there is a difference between getting a cheek slap and getting the crap beat out of you on a physical level. But there may be no difference at all in the psychological and relationship consequences.

Cut the crap, you don't have to have physical injuries to be injured. You don't have to physically bleed to have a dead spirit. A relationship will not be healthy, it will die and something pathological takes it's place.

You are correct.

And let me explain why I said what I said in my first post in this thread.

As a society it is drilled into our brains that a man hitting a woman is a bad, bad thing.
But modern day feminism applauds when a woman gets angry and slaps her man. I am not one of these people who applauds this....I think it is pretty bad that a woman hits her man with preconcieved notions that she has a free pass to do this.

What I am saying is that if these feminists want equality, then do not get all up in arms about a man hitting a woman, and then turning around and applauding that woman for hitting her man.


I am not a fan of any hitting at all...I think it is actually apretty weak way of trying to have the power in the relationship.

So that is why I said what I said.

[megs280]

I am going to go out on a limb here and say that I think there is a difference between hitting your girlfriend, and beating the crap out of her.
And I will even go so far as to say that sometimes a woman deserves to be hit...in the same way a man would deserve to get hit. If women demand to be treated as equals then we can't be selective on when we are treated as equals.

That being said...Chris Brown beat the crap out of Rhianna...this was no little slap...and she is just contributing by going back to him.


Please, my sisters on this board, don't hate me too much for saying what I did above.

I have to disagree, I don't think someone in a relationship should be physically disciplining the other person, a grown adult. Basically they shouldn't think their significant other deserves to be hit...there are many non-violent ways to show that you are upset.

Besides, in terms of physical strength men and women usually are not equal. So there really is not much of a comparison when considering a man hitting a woman when she 'deserves it' and a woman hitting a man when he 'deserves it'.

[Dreamy]

I think both low self esteem and an unhealthy idea of what love is contributes to the choices a woman makes who finds herself in repeated domestic abuse situations.

To a degree it is socially accepted in some cultures for a man to smack his woman if she is 'disrespectful'. I see couples occasionally in public where the woman behaves like a beaten dog. It is sad. Those couples also have the bleary look of alchoholism or drug issues also. You know that angry energy combined with inebriation issues just lends itself to abuse.

Those women on the radio excusing it.... unbelievable and sad - to think that they're raising children to believe what they believe; it's okay to smack a woman who doesn't stand down to her man.

~

Cultural,social,religious,financial mores all can cause a woman to accept the unacceptable. Stupid can too. Sorry ladies but I have seen woman do some serious stupid when it comes to their men. And sadly their stupid affects the kids.

[Dreamy]

You are correct.

And let me explain why I said what I said in my first post in this thread.

As a society it is drilled into our brains that a man hitting a woman is a bad, bad thing.
But modern day feminism applauds when a woman gets angry and slaps her man. I am not one of these people who applauds this....I think it is pretty bad that a woman hits her man with preconcieved notions that she has a free pass to do this.

What I am saying is that if these feminists want equality, then do not get all up in arms about a man hitting a woman, and then turning around and applauding that woman for hitting her man.


I am not a fan of any hitting at all...I think it is actually apretty weak way of trying to have the power in the relationship.

So that is why I said what I said.

I do understand what you are explaining. But most women are smaller than men. If she is violent then he needs to get away from her asap.

[super cool ski instructor]

I do understand what you are explaining. But most women are smaller than men. If she is violent then he needs to get away from her asap.

Oh I agree. And if anyone thinks that just because a woman is smaller she can't do damage....I have 2 words...Tawny Kitaen :lol:

[Gaetano "Tommy" Lucchese]

Hard to believe for a young person that people can live perfectly fullfilled lives without listening to the Top 40. :lol:

In my 20's I knew everyone who sang everything.

In my 40's I'm just glad to keep my schedule straight.

:))

It happened gradually. One day I knew it all and the next I realized that I not only didn't know the songs, I didn't know the artists and then laughed when I realized that I just didn't care.

There is a lot of musical crap out there, I figure that it's not much of a loss.

That song is seared into my brain. Long story, cheating girlfriend, loved the Top 40, I got played like a fiddle.

[Dreamy]

Oh I agree. And if anyone thinks that just because a woman is smaller she can't do damage....I have 2 words...Tawny Kitaen :lol:


Whitesnake's hood ornament got violent? :razz:

[Gaetano "Tommy" Lucchese]

I do understand what you are explaining. But most women are smaller than men. If she is violent then he needs to get away from her asap.

A friend of mine, his girlfriend is abusive. She snapped out one time and he had to have her involuntarily committed, it took three cops to get her to the ground.

[Gaetano "Tommy" Lucchese]

There was also a girl I went to high school with, Tammy Lynn, she could knuckle up with any guy and win. I would never have ****ed with her.

[Dreamy]

A friend of mine, his girlfriend is abusive. She snapped out one time and he had to have her involuntarily committed, it took three cops to get her to the ground.


All the more reason for the intended victim to get the hell away and let someone with a baton and cuffs deal with the loon.

[Gaetano "Tommy" Lucchese]

All the more reason for the intended victim to get the hell away and let someone with a baton and cuffs deal with the loon.

Men are too embarrassed to admit their girl whoops up on them.

[super cool ski instructor]

Whitesnake's hood ornament got violent? :razz:

:)) Some legal trouble...attacked her MLB star husband with her spiked heel :eek:

[melinda]

consider yourself lucky. ;)

x 1,000,000,000,0000,000....

[angelicmadrigal]

If a woman attacks a man...in my opinion, he has every right to defend himself.
I am not a woman who feels that a man never has a right to put his hands on a woman.

Self defense is one thing, but slapping a women because she's lippy or whatever isn't a beating, but it isn't appropriate either.

[melinda]

I am going to go out on a limb here and say that I think there is a difference between hitting your girlfriend, and beating the crap out of her.
And I will even go so far as to say that sometimes a woman deserves to be hit...in the same way a man would deserve to get hit. If women demand to be treated as equals then we can't be selective on when we are treated as equals.

That being said...Chris Brown beat the crap out of Rhianna...this was no little slap...and she is just contributing by going back to him.


Please, my sisters on this board, don't hate me too much for saying what I did above.

not at all, ski...I agree with you.
I've often said there have been many times in my life that I did deserve to get hit. but my husband never ever ever hit me. He would walk out the door and drive away until we both cooled off.

and while my kids were growing up, my daughter did hit her brother a time or two. if she got caught, she did get into trouble ... but I always raised my son that he was never ever allowed to hit his sister. This did not always go over well...believe me. He would ask me why it was OK for her to hit him while he was not allowed to hit her. I explained to him the difference was that if she hit him, she might might hurt him....if he hit her, he could kill her.
big difference......

[Lady Liberty]

Cultural,social,religious,financial mores all can cause a woman to accept the unacceptable. Stupid can too. Sorry ladies but I have seen woman do some serious stupid when it comes to their men. And sadly their stupid affects the kids.


True! Stupid is way too common!
There seems to be a line connecting the dots of inebriation issues to bad choices to abuse.

Who knows what dysfunction Rhianna/Brown dance with.

~

[Dreamy]

Men are too embarrassed to admit their girl whoops up on them.

But there not too embarrassed to whip a girls ass? Come on Tommy. Its a no-brainer. If the chick is out of control leave her to foam at the mouth alone.

[melinda]

Yesterday I was driving home from work and had my radio on scan and when it stopped on a "black station" here in Detroit they were talking about the Rhianna/Brown situation. So I stopped the scan to listen.

And what shocked me was how many black women called in saying they think that everyone needs to mind their own business and that people's domestic violence issues are a private thing between the couple. They were actually sticking up for Chris Brown because he "always seems like such a good guy...in interviews".

Then they were talking about how "sistahs often deserve to get the crap kicked out of them because, unlike white chicks, they did not stand down to their men"

So I got to thinking...is this a culturally accepted thing? I sure hope not.

:eek:

[angelicmadrigal]

:eek:

Yeah no kidding.

The day I back down to anyone simply to avoid an argument, including my boyfreind, is they day they'll put me in the ground.

[super cool ski instructor]

:eek:

Yeah...that was my reaction too!

[Dreamy]

Yeah no kidding.

The day I back down to anyone simply to avoid an argument, including my boyfreind, is they day they'll put me in the ground.


But some women actually believe they "deserve" to be hit. Now that makes me :eek: I would never teach my daughter or son they deserve to be hit by their spouse or girlfriend or boyfriend.

[angelicmadrigal]

But some women actually believe they "deserve" to be hit. Now that makes me :eek: I would never teach my daughter or son they deserve to be hit by their spouse or girlfriend or boyfriend.

No kidding.

Not to mention women that get abused long enough can eventually snap and become very dangerous.

[Gaetano "Tommy" Lucchese]

No kidding.

Not to mention women that get abused long enough can eventually snap and become very dangerous.

Half of all murders are domestics, husband-wife, boyfriend-girlfriend, parent-child.

[Dreamy]

No kidding.

Not to mention women that get abused long enough can eventually snap and become very dangerous.

Oh yeah a la Burning Bed. And that one that killed her preacher husband down south.

No behavior EVER calls for someone you consider your lover and mate to beat or hit you. Damn I can't believe we still have to remind women of this.

[Gaby77]

But some women actually believe they "deserve" to be hit. Now that makes me :eek: I would never teach my daughter or son they deserve to be hit by their spouse or girlfriend or boyfriend.

I have a SIL that has flat out been told by her parents that, yes the fact that her husband beats her is bad, but she does really know how to provoke him, too. So basically, it's her fault that he beats the living **** out of her on a regular basis. :wall:

Oh, and ladies, I know that for some reason in movies and on TV it has become justified to "slap your man" if he gets on your nerves, but in real life, that is abuse! You might not be able to do the same kind of (physical) damage as he could, but it is NOT acceptable behavior.
If a relationship gets physical like that (on either or even both ends), step out!

[megs280]

No kidding.

Not to mention women that get abused long enough can eventually snap and become very dangerous.

Exactly, and when they snap their hurt and anger might not be taken out on the abuser, but at an innocent weaker person like their child.

A woman should never marry and have children with a guy that resorts to hitting her when he gets angry. They might stupidly put up with it but their children should not have to.

[Dreamy]

I have a SIL that has flat out been told by her parents that, yes the fact that her husband beats her is bad, but she does really know how to provoke him, too. So basically, it's her fault that he beats the living **** out of her on a regular basis. :wall:

Oh, and ladies, I know that for some reason in movies and on TV it has become justified to "slap your man" if he gets on your nerves, but in real life, that is abuse! You might not be able to do the same kind of (physical) damage as he could, but it is NOT acceptable behavior.
If a relationship gets physical like that (on either or even both ends), step out!

Do women who do not work sometimes feel that a potential beating or some hitting it the price they pay for staying home & letting the man be the bread winner? I am sorry but some women truly are in need of some serious counseling and possibly a job if their self-worth is so tied to their husband's approval or disapproval.

[Gaby77]

Do women who do not work sometimes feel that a potential beating or some hitting it the price they pay for staying home & letting the man be the bread winner? I am sorry but some women truly are in need of some serious counseling and possibly a job if their self-worth is so tied to their husband's approval or disapproval.

I'm the only woman in that family that has a job outside of the home. It is considered "not done" by them. This particular SIL doesn't have an education beyond high school, cause what's the point? She got married, right? And Jason makes enough money for them to live on, right? Every time she brings up maybe going back to school, or maybe getting a job, she gets told by her husband that she's too stupid for that, and by her parents that "a good mother belongs in the home".
It frustrates me beyond believe!

[Dreamy]

I'm the only woman in that family that has a job outside of the home. It is considered "not done" by them. This particular SIL doesn't have an education beyond high school, cause what's the point? She got married, right? And Jason makes enough money for them to live on, right? Every time she brings up maybe going back to school, or maybe getting a job, she gets told by her husband that she's too stupid for that, and by her parents that "a good mother belongs in the home".
It frustrates me beyond believe!

So sad and so wrong Gaby. But yet again I suppose if you accept the opinion of others,even your spouse,as to be the truth,then you will accept his world as defined by him.

My daughter and son learned such a different lesson from this very strong but loving mother. She will never "deserve" or have to put up with any abuse from a man. She knows that is totally unacceptable.

For anyone who may be reading this who needs help:

http://www.ndvh.org/


http://www.ncadv.org/


And just for the record,being a conservative woman does not mean you must be a doormat to anyone. I volunteered at the local YMCA here teaching swimming and other skills when my kids were younger and I would always try to let the lessons involve not just learning the skills but the confidence every person needs in life to succeed.

[angelicmadrigal]

I'm the only woman in that family that has a job outside of the home. It is considered "not done" by them. This particular SIL doesn't have an education beyond high school, cause what's the point? She got married, right? And Jason makes enough money for them to live on, right? Every time she brings up maybe going back to school, or maybe getting a job, she gets told by her husband that she's too stupid for that, and by her parents that "a good mother belongs in the home".
It frustrates me beyond believe!

Well I generally believe that really young kids (under 5) are best cared for by their mother or father unless they are totally inept at doing so. So if a women doesn't have to work outside the home/go to school from birth-5 years, I generally think she shouldn't. But, if it's financially necessary, what are you going to do? Also once the kids are in school all day I think a mother owes it to herself to work outside the home/go to school if that's what makes her happy.

[Dreamy]

Well I generally believe that really young kids (under 5) are best cared for by their mother or father unless they are totally inept at doing so. So if a women doesn't have to work outside the home/go to school from birth-5 years, I generally think she shouldn't. But, if it's financially necessary, what are you going to do? Also once the kids are in school all day I think a mother owes it to herself to work outside the home/go to school if that's what makes her happy.

I most certainly agree. To do nothing long after your children are off doing something is a waste of a life. If you don't need the money then volunteer but damn don't sit home all day waiting for your husband to come home and tell you what to do.

[Gaby77]

Well I generally believe that really young kids (under 5) are best cared for by their mother or father unless they are totally inept at doing so. So if a women doesn't have to work outside the home/go to school from birth-5 years, I generally think she shouldn't. But, if it's financially necessary, what are you going to do? Also once the kids are in school all day I think a mother owes it to herself to work outside the home/go to school if that's what makes her happy.

Good for you. I don't have any issues with working outside of the home, even with my kids being younger. Even if it isn't financially necessary. We're all different, and some of us just do better having a job.
But that's a whole other topic.

[super cool ski instructor]

I most certainly agree. To do nothing long after your children are off doing something is a waste of a life. If you don't need the money then volunteer but damn don't sit home all day waiting for your husband to come home and tell you what to do.

A-friggin-Men!!

[megs280]

I most certainly agree. To do nothing long after your children are off doing something is a waste of a life. If you don't need the money then volunteer but damn don't sit home all day waiting for your husband to come home and tell you what to do.

I used to work with a guy whose wife was a homemaker and we would have to travel together sometimes. Their son was in school. She didn't have to wait till he came home to receive orders. He called at least 3 times a day (sometimes while he was supposed to be working), asking what she was doing in a condescending way first and then giving her orders. If she didn't answer the phone the next call would be a very unpleasant one.

I just can't believe what some women put up with. The guy was a total control freak even on the job.

[Dreamy]

Good for you. I don't have any issues with working outside of the home, even with my kids being younger. Even if it isn't financially necessary. We're all different, and some of us just do better having a job.
But that's a whole other topic.

I like to see self-confidence in a woman. Its good for the kids too. Women who lack it often try to find it in unhealthy ways. Working is not unhealthy at all but I could name a few ways women who have no jobs and no kids at home or underfoot do seek a sense of worth for themselves.

Drinking and/or Drugs
Eating disorders
Reckless sex online and/or off
Body Dysmorphic Disorder
Depression
Verbal and/or Physical Abuse by Spouse

[angelicmadrigal]

I most certainly agree. To do nothing long after your children are off doing something is a waste of a life. If you don't need the money then volunteer but damn don't sit home all day waiting for your husband to come home and tell you what to do.

Well I mean there is cleaning, and laundry, and all that other stuff, but you should leave yourself some time to do what you want.

[angelicmadrigal]

Good for you. I don't have any issues with working outside of the home, even with my kids being younger. Even if it isn't financially necessary. We're all different, and some of us just do better having a job.
But that's a whole other topic.

I have issues with it because I have to deal with mothers who CHOOSE to work and bring their kids to school violently ill and get upset when I have to tell them to come get their child because they can't be at school because of illness. Or mothers who nit pick about everything not being done to their satisfaction, or they can't understand why thier child has behavior problems because she leaves them in childcare for 10 hours a day so she can have "fullfillment" or some other crap. oooo or picking your child up after closing hours w/o calling because you and the hubby wanted to go have a drink after work.

[Dreamy]

I used to work with a guy whose wife was a homemaker and we would have to travel together sometimes. Their son was in school. She didn't have to wait till he came home to receive orders. He called at least 3 times a day (sometimes while he was supposed to be working), asking what she was doing in a condescending way first and then giving her orders. If she didn't answer the phone the next call would be a very unpleasant one.

I just can't believe what some women put up with. The guy was a total control freak even on the job.


I can't believe it either. I guess we another generation of women who simply do not get it.

By the way I work with mostly men and I also know a man who is that way with his wife. If he calls and he can tell he she is on the line with another by the call waiting beep one hears he flips. Wants to know who she was talking to and on and on. Crazy crazy crazy.

[Dreamy]

Well I mean there is cleaning, and laundry, and all that other stuff, but you should leave yourself some time to do what you want.

If cleaning and laundry and other stuff is all that fills your day with the kids grown then perhaps you are the maid not the partner in a marriage. Women need to have a small part of their life that is not in service to their family at all times.

[Gaby77]

I have issues with it because I have to deal with mothers who CHOOSE to work and bring their kids to school violently ill and get upset when I have to tell them to come get their child because they can't be at school because of illness. Or mothers who nit pick about everything not being done to their satisfaction, or they can't understand why thier child has behavior problems because she leaves them in childcare for 10 hours a day so she can have "fullfillment" or some other crap.

So, let me get this straight... because you had a few bad experiences, you assume all mothers with jobs outside of the home are like that?

[angelicmadrigal]

So, let me get this straight... because you had a few bad experiences, you assume all mothers with jobs outside of the home are like that?

It's been more than a "few". It's a whole personality type. There's a whole subset of mothers that just need to be told "look, the best solution to your "problem" here, is for YOU to stay at home with your kid".

[Dreamy]

It's been more than a "few". It's a whole personality type. There's a whole subset of mothers that just need to be told "look, the best solution to your "problem" here, is for YOU to stay at home with your kid".

Angel,I would suspect if they are that kind of parent they are not going to improve being home with the child. In other words,some people are simply lousy parents. Some are SAHM and some are working buit neither choice guarantees your parenting will improve.

[Gaby77]

It's been more than a "few". It's a whole personality type. There's a whole subset of mothers that just need to be told "look, the best solution to your "problem" here, is for YOU to stay at home with your kid".

Tell me, did you ever have any good experiences with working mothers?

[angelicmadrigal]

Tell me, did you ever have any good experiences with working mothers?

I have a few, however they have a very different personality type than the mother's I've mentioned.

[angelicmadrigal]

Angel,I would suspect if they are that kind of parent they are not going to improve being home with the child. In other words,some people are simply lousy parents. Some are SAHM and some are working buit neither choice guarantees your parenting will improve.

Ah, but it isn't my responsibility to raise their children for them. Kid you not I have one set of parents that during the week spend ONLY 2 waking hours with their 2 children. 2 hours of awake time out of 5 days. No exageration, they get picked up at 5:30 go to bed at 7:30. by the parent's own admission.

[Gaby77]

I have a few, however they have a very different personality type than the mother's I've mentioned.

Okay, just making sure. Cause I'm not like that. And most of my friends that work outside of the home as well, aren't like that either.

[angelicmadrigal]

Okay, just making sure. Cause I'm not like that. And most of my friends that work outside of the home as well, aren't like that either.

Actually a lot of our kids mother drops off, father picks up...which I think is nice.

[Dreamy]

Ah, but it isn't my responsibility to raise their children for them. Kid you not I have one set of parents that during the week spend ONLY 2 waking hours with their 2 children. 2 hours of awake time out of 5 days. No exageration, they get picked up at 5:30 go to bed at 7:30. by the parent's own admission.


That you are telling me that there are bad parents out there is not news to me. My children went to private school for a reason. I do not believe the teacher is a substitute parent and therefore I wanted my children taught by teachers whose time was spent actually teaching.

As far as the time you describe I agree that children need more time with both parents but not as much as some may think.

One of my neighbors is a lovely lady but her husband is never home because he needs to carry the support for the family. Those kids see lots of Mom and no Dad. Or how about the Moms who are home but the kids are ignored? My point is good parenting is an effort that can happen when that is your intent in life...to be a good parent. Working or not. My husband and I worked different shifts. Some parents work part time.

[Gaby77]

Ah, but it isn't my responsibility to raise their children for them. Kid you not I have one set of parents that during the week spend ONLY 2 waking hours with their 2 children. 2 hours of awake time out of 5 days. No exageration, they get picked up at 5:30 go to bed at 7:30. by the parent's own admission.

Okay, I see. Here's what our day looks like....
I get up at 6, shower, get dressed, etc. Kids wake at 7. I make breakfast. We eat together at the table. I get the kids dressed, and we make the beds. I drop my oldest off at his bus stop at 8:40, take the others to the babysitter. On Tuesdays and Thursdays I pick up my 4 year old at noon and take her to her preschool. I pick up the kids at 5 each day. We cook together (my 6 year old wants to learn), and have dinner together at the table. No TV, no computer, no distractions. I help my son with his homework, we read together, whatever, just as long as it is together. Then my kids go to bed between 7 and 7:30.
I still cook from scratch. I bake our own bread, I can our own food, etc., etc. Not a lot of SAHM's I know do that.
Do you see the difference between quality and quantity?
BTW, I'm NOT ripping on SAHM's, I'm just indicating that the choice in and of itself does not make you a better mom than someone that chooses to get a job.

[Dreamy]

Okay, I see. Here's what our day looks like....
I get up at 6, shower, get dressed, etc. Kids wake at 7. I make breakfast. We eat together at the table. I get the kids dressed, and we make the beds. I drop my oldest off at his bus stop at 8:40, take the others to the babysitter. On Tuesdays and Thursdays I pick up my 4 year old at noon and take her to her preschool. I pick up the kids at 5 each day. We cook together (my 6 year old wants to learn), and have dinner together at the table. No TV, no computer, no distractions. I help my son with his homework, we read together, whatever, just as long as it is together. Then my kids go to bed between 7 and 7:30.
I still cook from scratch. I bake our own bread, I can our own food, etc., etc. Not a lot of SAHM's I know do that.
Do you see the difference between quality and quantity?
BTW, I'm NOT ripping on SAHM's, I'm just indicating that the choice in and of itself does not make you a better mom than someone that chooses to get a job.

I'm just indicating that the choice in and of itself does not make you a better mom than someone that chooses to get a job.

Sure does not. Now Gaby will you please go lie down,you have exhausted me just reading that schedule.:)) Oh and yes I do remember it well.

[Gaby77]

Sure does not. Now Gaby will you please go lie down,you have exhausted me just reading that schedule.:)) Oh and yes I do remember it well.

I'm psychotic, I know. It's how I roll. :))

[Dreamy]

I'm psychotic, I know. It's how I roll. :))


I was the same way. Loved to juggle all the balls but boy I sure did love my down time and down time for the family.

[angelicmadrigal]

Okay, I see. Here's what our day looks like....
I get up at 6, shower, get dressed, etc. Kids wake at 7. I make breakfast. We eat together at the table. I get the kids dressed, and we make the beds. I drop my oldest off at his bus stop at 8:40, take the others to the babysitter. On Tuesdays and Thursdays I pick up my 4 year old at noon and take her to her preschool. I pick up the kids at 5 each day. We cook together (my 6 year old wants to learn), and have dinner together at the table. No TV, no computer, no distractions. I help my son with his homework, we read together, whatever, just as long as it is together. Then my kids go to bed between 7 and 7:30.
I still cook from scratch. I bake our own bread, I can our own food, etc., etc. Not a lot of SAHM's I know do that.
Do you see the difference between quality and quantity?
BTW, I'm NOT ripping on SAHM's, I'm just indicating that the choice in and of itself does not make you a better mom than someone that chooses to get a job.

I know, it just annoys me that this particular set of parents have "no idea" where there son's behavioral problems come from. You know what else gets me, mom took little sister away for a week so I thought son was goign to be horrible, turns out he was getting WAY WAY more one on one time with dad while mom and sister were gone and like magic the behavior problems went **POOF**. It never ceases to amaze me how simple solutions are beyond some people.

[angelicmadrigal]

I was the same way. Loved to juggle all the balls but boy I sure did love my down time and down time for the family.
This is exactly why I don't have kids, I like being able to do what I want with my time all the time.

[twigit]

Good grief! All these remarks about working women vs. none working women are really starting to tick me off!
Because I stay at home does not mean I am my husbands slave! I am not my sons slave either.
I stay home because I choose to. My husband has no problem with my decision. He is supportive with whatever I do. I happen to enjoy taking care of both my men.
I DO NOT SIT HOME EATING BON BONS GETTING FAT AS A COW WHILE WATCHING SOAP OPERAS ALL DAY!!!!!!!
I work my butt off keeping this house in tip top shape, which is MY CHOICE!
I work my butt off in the Summer picking and canning/freezing fruits and vegetables.
I work my butt off in the Summer months keeping my teenage son on the straight and narrow path making sure he doesn't fall in with the "wrong crowd".

I'm proud of my son! He's more of a gentleman than any other young man his age I've ever met. He's actually more of a gentleman than most ADULT men I've ever met!!!

Just because I don't earn a paycheck doesn't mean I'm worthless.

[angelicmadrigal]

Just because I don't earn a paycheck doesn't mean I'm worthless.

No one said that at all. In act we were talking about a very particular type of stay at home woman, not all stay at home women so chill the hell out.

[Dreamy]

Good grief! All these remarks about working women vs. none working women are really starting to tick me off!
Because I stay at home does not mean I am my husbands slave! I am not my sons slave either.
I stay home because I choose to. My husband has no problem with my decision. He is supportive with whatever I do. I happen to enjoy taking care of both my men.
I DO NOT SIT HOME EATING BON BONS GETTING FAT AS A COW WHILE WATCHING SOAP OPERAS ALL DAY!!!!!!!
I work my butt off keeping this house in tip top shape, which is MY CHOICE!
I work my butt off in the Summer picking and canning/freezing fruits and vegetables.
I work my butt off in the Summer months keeping my teenage son on the straight and narrow path making sure he doesn't fall in with the "wrong crowd".

I'm proud of my son! He's more of a gentleman than any other young man his age I've ever met. He's actually more of a gentleman than most ADULT men I've ever met!!!

Just because I don't earn a paycheck doesn't mean I'm worthless.


And no one said you were. Who even knows you here? We are talkin in general terms about abused women. Did we discuss you in any way? But women who believe they deserve to be hit have issues in my view or those who go back to an abuser or stay with one. If they do it because they have no financial means to leave that is sad.

You are new here do not take everything as a personal affront on you. It is not.


Just because I don't earn a paycheck doesn't mean I'm worthless.

^^^^Where in heaven's name did you draw this conclusion from ma'am? I will say once again if opinions and views on a message board make you that upset and seeing things that were never said you may need to learn to chill.

[super cool ski instructor]

:eek:

[Gaby77]

Good grief! All these remarks about working women vs. none working women are really starting to tick me off!
Because I stay at home does not mean I am my husbands slave! I am not my sons slave either.
I stay home because I choose to. My husband has no problem with my decision. He is supportive with whatever I do. I happen to enjoy taking care of both my men.
I DO NOT SIT HOME EATING BON BONS GETTING FAT AS A COW WHILE WATCHING SOAP OPERAS ALL DAY!!!!!!!
I work my butt off keeping this house in tip top shape, which is MY CHOICE!
I work my butt off in the Summer picking and canning/freezing fruits and vegetables.
I work my butt off in the Summer months keeping my teenage son on the straight and narrow path making sure he doesn't fall in with the "wrong crowd".

I'm proud of my son! He's more of a gentleman than any other young man his age I've ever met. He's actually more of a gentleman than most ADULT men I've ever met!!!

Just because I don't earn a paycheck doesn't mean I'm worthless.

Ehm... no one said you were.

[angelicmadrigal]

You are new here do not take everything as a personal affront on you. It is not.


I can make it one....and it's really really tempting.

[Dreamy]

I can make it one....and it's really really tempting.


Gawd no, I hate being screamed at online.:))

I just realized she is not new,just a very busy lady who does not post much.:razz:

[angelicmadrigal]

Gawd no, I hate being screamed at online.:))
Well my bf says it's hilarious when I yell at people....when it isn't him. Aw come on it'll be fun.

[uncledoom]

Well it did take years for Tina Turner to break free from Ike.

[Dreamy]

Well my bf says it's hilarious when I yell at people....when it isn't him. Aw come on it'll be fun.


Between working SuperMom Gaby and SAH SuperMom Twigit I feel like such a slouch Angel. :))

My kids are grown and I make good money and work lots,I volunteer,take care of myself(no bon bons),make my husband smile oh and I like to travel,take long walks,watch the sunrise....oops sorry,wrong forum.:whistle:

[angelicmadrigal]

Between working SuperMom Gaby and SAH SuperMom Twigit I feel like such a slouch Angel. :))


I get to be a slouch for a few days I had to go to urgent care Sunday. Evidently, I had a sinus infection and a bacterial infection of the lymph nodes.

[BOOOOOOSHHHH]

simple.She wants to "change" him. nice guys always get cheated on and dumped,Sad but true.Never listen to a woman's words.Go by her ACTIONS.

I'm a psych major and have studied women for years.Ask me anything.:whistle:

[angelicmadrigal]

I'm a psych major and have studied women for years.Ask me anything.:whistle:

::chuckles:: if you think that tells you how all women think, I think you may have a rude awakening.

[jeepers]

simple.She wants to "change" him. nice guys always get cheated on and dumped,Sad but true.Never listen to a woman's words.Go by her ACTIONS.

I'm a psych major and have studied women for years.Ask me anything.:whistle:


Oh my, whose got issues now?

:cool:

[Remus Lupin]

At 19 I knew not to hit my girlfriend. Not only did I know not to, I also knew only a piece of crap would do such a thing.

Same here. I came from an abusive home as well. I learned at 19 ONLY A COWARD would put his hands on a woman.

[Talk2Bill]

and Now they have recorded a new love duet!

[Claymore]

Rihanna and Chris Brown Reconciled




Stupid, stupid girl.:rolleyes:

[sgdp]

Just found this flash game where you "take revenge against Chris Brown".

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/485965

:eek:

[CID_0687]

and Now they have recorded a new love duet!
Yep...it's a cover of "Love Hurts"

[Talk2Bill]

Yep...it's a cover of "Love Hurts"

so dose coffee when it sprays out of your nose....but it does look pretty all over the screen....