The Diabetes Thread

[CMike11]

I went to the doc friday and he diagnosed me with Diabetes type 2.

Diabetes has always freaked me out. I also have to test myself at him. The idea of pricking my own finger, kind of scares me.

Two weeks ago I restarted the Atkins diet. I think it's the perfect diet, since you eat very little sugar. You don't eat sugar, potatos, pasta, rice, or potatos.

Anyone have some words of enouragement?

Thank G-D he didn't diagnose me with cancer or something much more deadly.

[terri910]

Exactly, CMike, at least diabetes is treatable!

Does it appear that you will be able to control your diabetes with medication and diet, and not need insulin shots? I have had family members with Type II diabetes with different levels of treatment.

Follow your doctor's instructions, take care of yourself!

And I'll :pray: for your health and well-being!

:hug:

[blazer]

I will pray for you1 I am borderline diabetic myself!

[Dreamy]

I went to the doc friday and he diagnosed me with Diabetes type 2.

Diabetes has always freaked me out. I also have to test myself at him. The idea of pricking my own finger, kind of scares me.

Two weeks ago I restarted the Atkins diet. I think it's the perfect diet, since you eat very little sugar. You don't eat sugar, potatos, pasta, rice, or potatos.

Anyone have some words of enouragement?

Thank G-D he didn't diagnose me with cancer or something much more deadly.


I don't have diabetes but those here that do I am sure can be a big help with advice and guidance. Are you going to be able to control it with diet or will you need insulin?

I will offer you prayers and support Mike. Thankfully there appears to be all kinds of information and support groups out there to help you manage this disease/disorder.

[SarahG]

I went to the doc friday and he diagnosed me with Diabetes type 2.

Diabetes has always freaked me out. I also have to test myself at him. The idea of pricking my own finger, kind of scares me.

Two weeks ago I restarted the Atkins diet. I think it's the perfect diet, since you eat very little sugar. You don't eat sugar, potatos, pasta, rice, or potatos.

Anyone have some words of enouragement?

Thank G-D he didn't diagnose me with cancer or something much more deadly.

Yes, when you stick your finger, alternate all 4 fingers and the thumb always on one side of the finger and then the other. Then alternate hands. It keeps you from getting too sore on one finger.

If you have trouble getting blood, put your hand down to your side for about 3 minutes before you do the stick.

Adkins is great. It might help you get off medication but drink a lot of water and no dark colas. If you crave sodas, drink diet 7-Up or one of the light ones. Dark colas are hard on your kidneys.

Good luck.

[Dreamy]

Yes, when you stick your finger, alternate all 4 fingers and the thumb always on one side of the finger and then the other. Then alternate hands. It keeps you from getting too sore on one finger.

If you have trouble getting blood, put your hand down to your side for about 3 minutes before you do the stick.

Adkins is great. It might help you get off medication but drink a lot of water and no dark colas. If you crave sodas, drink diet 7-Up or one of the light ones. Dark colas are hard on your kidneys.

Good luck.

I stopped drinking all colas for the most part years ago but I had no idea about the kidney connection. Thanks for the info Sarah.

[SarahG]

I stopped drinking all colas for the most part years ago but I had no idea about the kidney connection. Thanks for the info Sarah.

http://diabetesupdate.blogspot.com/search?q=death+by+coke

I have diabetes but I'm controlled. I think about it, read about it and do everything I can to lead a normal life. I read that article and it cured me of my addiction to colas.

[CMike11]

Thanks guys.

No insulin, at least not yet.

So far the doc has told me to:

Take a diabetic instruction program at a local hospital.

Get the stuff and monitor my blood at home :eek:

See an eye doctor

I have been researching it on webmd.

[Seanachie]

My Dad is Type II. He is 79. Not only does a sane diet work but also exercise. Dad has just finished installing a gym in the basement along with a new bathroom with shower. He's a retired pipefitter. << (Probably just to keep him busy with the work in the project). I'm nearly finished installing the electrical outlets for all the contraptions he's also put there; A Bowflex, Universal weight gym; treadmill, rower, bi-cycle. He's convinced that the exercise and diet will keep the Diabetes from escalating to Type I.

Dad also uses Glimepiride to aid in the control of glucose in his blood; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glimepiride.

Just spoke with him (Dad) and his recomendation is to do plenty of research, flush the system out with plenty of water and get Diabetic counseling. Your Doctor can and will point you in that direction; if not, ask, or do so on your own. (Most Hospitals have programs for this). Dad has gone himself.

Understanding any disease is the key to overcoming it if that is medically possible.

I hope this will help in some ways. I'll keep You in my prayers to the 'Big Guy' that He Bless You with some help too.

Jim

[CMike11]

Thank you.

The doctor did sentence me to taking a diabetic eduction course at one of the local hospitals.

I really appreciate all this great input.

[itsrea]

I went to the doc friday and he diagnosed me with Diabetes type 2.

Diabetes has always freaked me out. I also have to test myself at him. The idea of pricking my own finger, kind of scares me.

Two weeks ago I restarted the Atkins diet. I think it's the perfect diet, since you eat very little sugar. You don't eat sugar, potatos, pasta, rice, or potatos.

Anyone have some words of enouragement?

Thank G-D he didn't diagnose me with cancer or something much more deadly.If you eat and exercise you're going to have a relative easier time of keeping your blood sugar in check, but it is VERY important to read labels.. many foods that say sugar free are not counting glucose and brown sugars and syrups as sugar. The same thing with flours... the main flour may be wheat, which is matabolized slower, but if there is white flour on the list, even if lower down on the list, it's going to affect your blood sugar. The way you tell is the closer to the top of a list an ingredient is the more of it there is in a product... try for dark ryes, or puppernickles cause they are metabolized slower. Eat fresh fruits and lots of fresh veggies.. canned ones and frozen ones have sugars added - even tomato sauces have sugars added.. so you are going to have to really work at becoming a label reader.

Good luck.

[terri910]

CMike, be sure to follow your doctor's instructions -- especially about seeing an eye doctor.

My father had diabetes and wound up with the complication of glaucoma, causing blindness. But he was not great at following his doctor's instructions (stubborn man, God love him).

Also take very good care of your feet, another problem area for many diabetics.

[Constantine the Great]

I went to the doc friday and he diagnosed me with Diabetes type 2.

Diabetes has always freaked me out. I also have to test myself at him. The idea of pricking my own finger, kind of scares me.

Two weeks ago I restarted the Atkins diet. I think it's the perfect diet, since you eat very little sugar. You don't eat sugar, potatos, pasta, rice, or potatos.

Anyone have some words of enouragement?

Thank G-D he didn't diagnose me with cancer or something much more deadly.

Dude, I've been living almost carb and sugar free for the past year. Lost 150+lbs and loving my new self. It's rough at first, your body craves the stuff, but with a bit of stubborness you'll find plenty to enjoy in meat, fish, and veggies. Steam some broccoli, add some salt, lemon and olive oil and you have a great side to a nice sirloin steak.

[Talk2Bill]

I am thinking I am developing it. I have had some weird test results but my blood is so far normal. i need to go ahead and make an appointment.

But the good news is: type 2 can be largely managed with diet and exercise. which is something we ought to do as it is.

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

Thank you.

The doctor did sentence me to taking a diabetic eduction course at one of the local hospitals.

I really appreciate all this great input.
Please go. They are spectacular.

As far as self-testing, there are monitors that can test on forearms and thighs. Much less painful.

[rhet 2]

I'm praying for you, friend.

Don't know much about this one, but, for what it's worth, my uncle was diagnosed with Diabetes 2 40 years ago. He's 87 now. And it didn't slow him down, not in the least, even with daily insulin injections in his thigh. My SIL was diagnosed a few months ago -- and he's changed his diet, is exercising daily and losing weight, is NOT having to inject himself with insulin -- and seems happy as a lark, bee-bopping along just like always.

I pray you see the same results -- health and energy maintained, lifestyle NOT disrupted with major yuckies, and just as contented and prosperous as you were last March, with greater happiness just around the corner next month.

[DarthBush]

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj151/ireneeSAVESTHEDAY/diabeetus-2.jpg


Just to lighten up the mood.. :D

Sorry to hear about the bad news. Good news is this is a treatable disease. Just make sure you get on a diet, take your meds and work out.

You'll be fine.

[SarahG]

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj151/ireneeSAVESTHEDAY/diabeetus-2.jpg


Just to lighten up the mood.. :D

Sorry to hear about the bad news. Good news is this is a treatable disease. Just make sure you get on a diet, take your meds and work out.

You'll be fine.

:lol: These cat cartoons are the best!

[DarthBush]

:lol: These cat cartoons are the best!


:lol:

They so are..

[CMike11]

Thank you guys.

It really is sobering news to get.

At least it's not cancer or something imminently life threatening.

Still the idea of poking myself for the testing grosses me out...

[CMike11]

Dude, I've been living almost carb and sugar free for the past year. Lost 150+lbs and loving my new self. It's rough at first, your body craves the stuff, but with a bit of stubborness you'll find plenty to enjoy in meat, fish, and veggies. Steam some broccoli, add some salt, lemon and olive oil and you have a great side to a nice sirloin steak.

I lost a lot of weight on the Atkins diet. I kept it off for about two years.

Then I had to travel a lot for my work. I ate badly and gained it back.

[DarthBush]

Thank you guys.

It really is sobering news to get.

At least it's not cancer or something imminently life threatening.

Still the idea of poking myself for the testing grosses me out...



dude, dont sweat it... They sell tons of different monitors. Take heart... I hear Smith Kline is developing a testor that can detect your sugar levels through your saliva...

[CMike11]

Thank you. I really appreciate the support.

My father and mother both have had Diabetes.

The primary reason for getting it is genetics.

I thanked my mother :))

[outdamyboat]

Thank you.

The doctor did sentence me to taking a diabetic eduction course at one of the local hospitals.

I really appreciate all this great input.

Hi CMike,
18 years ago (Oh, I feel old!) I had a high blood sugar during pregnancy. After I had my daughter I had hyper-insulinism, which is pre-diabetic. I saw a dietitian and FAITHFULLY followed a diabetic diet. It took a few months but my blood sugars normalized and I began to feel so much better. You are right, the diabetic diet and Atkins are similar (but you need to stay low fat protein). I exercise and eat according to the diet I was given 18 yrs ago. It works, if you work it!!
God Bless!!!

[jwil59]

Type 2 is treatable Mike and you can live a normal life my friend.

I will be praying for you. Please update us on what is going on so we will know exactly how to pray my friend

[CMike11]

Thank you Out and JW. I very much appreciate the good wishes.

[DarthBush]

I thanked my mother :))

kick her in the shin...


No wait.. dont do that.. you may injury your toe, it wont heal and fall off...
:razz:


Seriously, find a really good doctor. Get on the right prescription, watch what you eat and work out.

You'll beat this in a year..

[FoxGranadaChuck]

I don't have Type II Diabetes now (as far as I know), but my Dad did before he passed away about 3 years ago. Looking back, I believe that the main reason for his diabetes was his really high alcohol consumption.

WATCH YOUR BLOOD SUGAR!!!

GET EXERCISE!!!

If you take care of yourself, you will be fine.

[FoxGranadaChuck]

http://diabetesupdate.blogspot.com/search?q=death+by+coke

I have diabetes but I'm controlled. I think about it, read about it and do everything I can to lead a normal life. I read that article and it cured me of my addiction to colas.


Giving up on Diet Mountain Dew for good is going to be VERY difficult....

[Abe]

I went to the doc friday and he diagnosed me with Diabetes type 2.

Diabetes has always freaked me out. I also have to test myself at him. The idea of pricking my own finger, kind of scares me.

Two weeks ago I restarted the Atkins diet. I think it's the perfect diet, since you eat very little sugar. You don't eat sugar, potatos, pasta, rice, or potatos.

Anyone have some words of enouragement?

Thank G-D he didn't diagnose me with cancer or something much more deadly.
Hey Mike, I got diagnosed with Diabetes Type 2 in '95 and had had it for at least a decade earlier. I wish I could say that I have always made sure my blood sugar was balanced, but I'd be lying. The most important thing is to limit your carbs and remain active. To prevent too much pain in your finger, try the ultra-thin lancettes. You barely feel them. I always feel better and stronger when my sugar is balanced. Atkins is good, but remember that your body does need carbs to function. Don't overdo it.

[Abe]

CMike, be sure to follow your doctor's instructions -- especially about seeing an eye doctor.

My father had diabetes and wound up with the complication of glaucoma, causing blindness. But he was not great at following his doctor's instructions (stubborn man, God love him).

Also take very good care of your feet, another problem area for many diabetics.

Terri is right, (did I say that?). I have had a slew of foot problems, all preventable if I'd been more careful with my blood sugar. Check the soles of your feet often, (the instructions are, every evening before bed), and DON'T ignore any sores or cuts. it would be a great idea if you didn't cut your toe-nails yourself. A cut on one, (or more), of your toes could have very bad results.

The main thing, Mike, is to be positive. Diabetes is a drag, but today's medicine is advanced enough to reduce it to a small incovenience, ("an inconvenient truth", if you will...:)) ). All the advice I've read on this thread is good advice. Go for it.

[CMike11]

Hi Abe,

I am sorry I just noticed your posts. Thank you for the advice.

I wanted to give an update.

I just got the glucose meter, glucometer.

I am having trouble using it. I am having trouble getting enough blood for the test strips. I have the lance on the deepest level. I have been going through about three strips to get one good sample. Pain in the butt. Also test strips can add it up.

I am open to suggestions on this.

My sugar level seems to be about 5 mg/dh above the normal range. Which doesn't seem to be that bad. That is with Metformin.

I see the doc again in about a month.

[RayMan]

Hi Abe,

I am sorry I just noticed your posts. Thank you for the advice.

I wanted to give an update.

I just got the glucose meter, glucometer.

I am having trouble using it. I am having trouble getting enough blood for the test strips. I have the lance on the deepest level. I have been going through about three strips to get one good sample. Pain in the butt. Also test strips can add it up.

I am open to suggestions on this.

My sugar level seems to be about 5 mg/dh above the normal range. Which doesn't seem to be that bad. That is with Metformin.

I see the doc again in about a month.


Sounds like you're doing pretty well Mike. I let my sugar get out of control and need to get back to checking it twice daily. Doc has me doing Metformin three times daily now.

[RayMan]

Terri is right, (did I say that?). I have had a slew of foot problems, all preventable if I'd been more careful with my blood sugar. Check the soles of your feet often, (the instructions are, every evening before bed), and DON'T ignore any sores or cuts. it would be a great idea if you didn't cut your toe-nails yourself. A cut on one, (or more), of your toes could have very bad results.

The main thing, Mike, is to be positive. Diabetes is a drag, but today's medicine is advanced enough to reduce it to a small incovenience, ("an inconvenient truth", if you will...:)) ). All the advice I've read on this thread is good advice. Go for it.

My dad, like Terri's was diabetic. Since the doc finalized the diagnosis on me last summer I have been going to the Salon with my wife once a month and getting a pedicure. They do a much better job with the toenails than me. I used to soak my feet in hot soapy water to soften the nails and then whack them off with a big pair of scissors.

I've had some soreness in one foot the past week or so. Plan to tell doc about it next time I see him.

[CMike11]

Not you too.

[RayMan]

Not you too.

Yeah. I gotta get back to low-carb. For years the doc would say pre-diabetic, I would lose thirty or forty pounds and get a clean bill of health.

When I was in hospital last summer they just flat said "you're diabetic."

[CMike11]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kJSq5bo8uI

[RayMan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kJSq5bo8uI

:))

[jwil59]

Hi Abe,

I am sorry I just noticed your posts. Thank you for the advice.

I wanted to give an update.

I just got the glucose meter, glucometer.

I am having trouble using it. I am having trouble getting enough blood for the test strips. I have the lance on the deepest level. I have been going through about three strips to get one good sample. Pain in the butt. Also test strips can add it up.

I am open to suggestions on this.

My sugar level seems to be about 5 mg/dh above the normal range. Which doesn't seem to be that bad. That is with Metformin.

I see the doc again in about a month.

I am praying for you buddy. I'm thinking you will get better at drawing the samples as you go. hang tough man

[CMike11]

Thank you JW. Any advice (to whomever) on how to do the pricking thing and getting the necessary blood for testing?

[CMike11]

I am getting better at the drawing blood thing.

[snow96]

Thank you JW. Any advice (to whomever) on how to do the pricking thing and getting the necessary blood for testing?

Are you not getting a good drop of blood . . . . or is it the machine and strip? I got diagnosed two weeks ago, and yesterday went in to meet with the nurse and nutritionalist. The first meter she tried, we went through TWO of the same machine with it saying it didn't get enough blood. So she pulled out another brand and that one worked first try.

I'm also starting to get the feeling I'm past just using Metformin and diet. But we'll see what the doc says when I go in next week.

[CMike11]

Are you not getting a good drop of blood . . . . or is it the machine and strip? I got diagnosed two weeks ago, and yesterday went in to meet with the nurse and nutritionalist. The first meter she tried, we went through TWO of the same machine with it saying it didn't get enough blood. So she pulled out another brand and that one worked first try.

I'm also starting to get the feeling I'm past just using Metformin and diet. But we'll see what the doc says when I go in next week.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kJSq5bo8uI

I am doing better. My problem was not getting enough blood. I needed a hand to kind of squeeze out the blood, and when I used the other hand to hold the test strip the blood wouldn't be there anymore.

However, I am learning how to do it.

What until you see the doc. It's only a week away.

I seem to be about five or so points higher than what the range should be. I am not sure if I am where I am supposed to be either.

Maybe the drug takes time to have the maximum effect on the body glucose level.

[RayMan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kJSq5bo8uI

I am doing better. My problem was not getting enough blood. I needed a hand to kind of squeeze out the blood, and when I used the other hand to hold the test strip the blood wouldn't be there anymore.

However, I am learning how to do it.

What until you see the doc. It's only a week away.

I seem to be about five or so points higher than what the range should be. I am not sure if I am where I am supposed to be either.

Maybe the drug takes time to have the maximum effect on the body glucose level.

If you're on Metformin then yeah, I think it takes a few weeks to really kick in.

I need to call my doc and see about moving up my next appointment. One of my feet started hurting about a week ago. By hurting I mean day and night. No apparent reason for it but the doc stresses the importance of checking my feet everytime I see him. I assume it has something to do with the diabetes but on the other hand we moved our office about a month ago and I have to walk an extra mile on concrete every day so maybe I just need some padded inserts for my shoes.

[CMike11]

Ray you need to see your doc asap.

[snow96]

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What until you see the doc. It's only a week away.

I seem to be about five or so points higher than what the range should be. I am not sure if I am where I am supposed to be either.



I got a copy of the blood readout from the hospital, shows what your level is, and what normal is on about 30 things they can test for. I'm WAAAAAY high.

But I got the "goals" paper from the nurse I met with and the goal is to get my blood sugar down to normal in six months. So looks like I'll have a little time to work on it.

I have no problem getting a drop of blood . . . I'm a bleeder . . . always have been. The lance has a setting of 1 to 5. I set mine at 3 to get blood.

[CMike11]

I put my lance setting on 5. I am getting better at getting blood.

My glucose level was 131 this morning. Up to 120 is considered normal before breakfast.

So I am close but not in normal range.

[jwil59]

I put my lance setting on 5. I am getting better at getting blood.

My glucose level was 131 this morning. Up to 120 is considered normal before breakfast.

So I am close but not in normal range.

I am happy things are a little better and I am still praying for you Mike.

hang tough bro

[Strongbone]

Listen to the instruction given at the diabetic education course. If you can go to your local library and learn about carbs. Control them and you have it licked AND you may be able NOT to take meds. Be prepared to lose weight if you control it. My husband has Type II. He started out with Metformin 1000 mg 2x's a day and Glyburide 50 mg a day. By following MOST (not all yet) of diet instructions he has lost 18 pounds, and has been able to cut meds in half. If he keeps going as he has been his doctor says he will be off meds by June.

Eat right and LIVE WELL!

[CMike11]

Just an update.

I am doing better.

I have gotten used to checking my blood twice a day.

I am a little higher than I should be, but not much.

The doctor warned me that I must take my Metformin before breakfast and before dinner.

I have a problem though. The Metformin sometimes causes me tummy problems. I have always had a nervous stomach, and sometimes the drug causes me problems, which makes it worse.

Once or twice a week I travel a distance in the morning, so I don't take my drug before breakfast, but wait until during lunch.

I do see a difference in my sugar level when I don't take the drug as instucted. However, having a stomach problem while on a long drive is very very unpleasant. I am scared to take it before a long drive.

Any ideas?

I will see my doc in two weeks.

Thank you.

[shiftkitty]

Did you check with your doctor before starting this Atkins diet? I've got type 2 and all I do diet-wise is eat more salads, drink water instead of soda pop, snack on granola bars instead of Snickers bars, and tah-dah! I'm under control.

My doc advises against marketted diets and adds don't eat anything that doesn't look like it did when it came off the tree.

Good luck!

[CMike11]

Basically I am not eating bread, pasta, rice, potatos, or sweets

[wonderingrover]

Hey Mike,

Just saw this thread today. I was diagnosed with Type 2 when I had my stroke - they think that may have been a contributing factor. One tip the nurse gave me on testing - if you test the finger kind of off to the side rather than on the very end, the skin is a little less sensitive - so it makes it a little easier.

I'm on the Metformin too - they told me to take one at breakfast and one at dinner as well. Unfortunately, I do have to do the insulin once at bedtime as well - but from what I understand, that is primarily preventative to make sure my sugar levels don't spike while I'm sleeping.

Hang in there - it seems a little overwhelming at first, but you'll feel a lot better once everything gets regulated good.

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

Basically I am not eating bread, pasta, rice, potatos, or sweets
Now now now. You know that isn't right...

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

Not you too.

And me. About a month and a half ago.

What are you anyway? The typhoid mary of hannity forums??? Spreading your diabetes to all of us???






j/k

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

Thank you JW. Any advice (to whomever) on how to do the pricking thing and getting the necessary blood for testing?

Have you been to the classes yet? If not, take the meter and pen with you to class and have them observe you as you check your sugar. It's hard to advise you without seeing what you may be doing wrong. If you've already had the class, call the educator and set up an appointment to see them again so they can watch you test.

Also, it might just be the pen itself. The one that comes with the one-touch I got for free is horrible. Even though I know I'm doing it right, half the time I have to stick myself again to get the proper drop. I hate that thing. I found one at walgreens (their brand) that is great. I tried to find a pic online and can't; but it's over the counter in with all their other diabetic supplies. Beige in color with red and blue writing, about the size and shape of a small pen. I'm sure most pharmacies have them, too. If I ever find the photo of it, I'll edit and post it for you. That type is easy to use and I never have to re-stick myself with that one.

One other thing... if you squeeze too much, you can get a false-low reading (lower than it actually is). So that is another reason to have someone observe how you test.

ETA: found it.

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

Just an update.

I am doing better.

I have gotten used to checking my blood twice a day.

I am a little higher than I should be, but not much.

The doctor warned me that I must take my Metformin before breakfast and before dinner.

I have a problem though. The Metformin sometimes causes me tummy problems. I have always had a nervous stomach, and sometimes the drug causes me problems, which makes it worse.

Once or twice a week I travel a distance in the morning, so I don't take my drug before breakfast, but wait until during lunch.

I do see a difference in my sugar level when I don't take the drug as instucted. However, having a stomach problem while on a long drive is very very unpleasant. I am scared to take it before a long drive.

Any ideas?

I will see my doc in two weeks.

Thank you.

Metformin is evil incarnate. It works and it's a great med, but it's still evil.

You're body will adjust. Consider taking FMLA if your job qualifies. I didn't expect to need it, but did so anyway just in case and I'm glad I did. I've had to call off a few times because of the meds. Taking it with food will reduce the side effects. Try to take as your doc instructed; if you find that is impossible, please contact him and let him know what's going on.

[Trinka]

God Bless and Keep You Mike

[jwil59]

How are you doing Mike?

Is the finger pricking thing any better?

[CMike11]

I apologize. I didn't realize there were new posts here.

I am sorry for spreading diabetes to almost the entire hannity forum:))

It does seem that more people have diabetes than I realized.

I am doing better pricking my finger. I do think it's an important control. How else do you know how you are doing unless you check regularly?

Diabetes is more involved than high blood pressure and high cholesterol. What can you do? Such is life.

The Metoformin is an issue for me. It does the job as far as lowering my sugar level, and when I don't take it properly I see a difference.

But...I always have had a nervous stomach, and it causes issues for me.

For example, one or two days a week I have a long drive in the morning. I have not taken the Metformin before breakfast during these days.

Frankly, I am scared too. I am afraid of a tummy issue during these long drives.

I guess the drug is tolerable, but as Emmanuel said it is evil incarnate, but in a necessary way.

This Friday I have a follow up with the doc.

I am very close to where I should be as far as my sugar level, but I am not quite there. I wonder if he is going to have me take the Metformin three times a days intead of two or just leave it alone.

I really appreciate all the input and good wishes. Thank you.

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

I apologize. I didn't realize there were new posts here.

I am sorry for spreading diabetes to almost the entire hannity forum:))

It does seem that more people have diabetes than I realized.

I am doing better pricking my finger. I do think it's an important control. How else do you know how you are doing unless you check regularly?

Diabetes is more involved than high blood pressure and high cholesterol. What can you do? Such is life.

The Metoformin is an issue for me. It does the job as far as lowering my sugar level, and when I don't take it properly I see a difference.

But...I always have had a nervous stomach, and it causes issues for me.

For example, one or two days a week I have a long drive in the morning. I have not taken the Metformin before breakfast during these days.

Frankly, I am scared too. I am afraid of a tummy issue during these long drives.

I guess the drug is tolerable, but as Emmanuel said it is evil incarnate, but in a necessary way.

This Friday I have a follow up with the doc.

I am very close to where I should be as far as my sugar level, but I am not quite there. I wonder if he is going to have me take the Metformin three times a days intead of two or just leave it alone.

I really appreciate all the input and good wishes. Thank you.
Metformin comes in an extended release form that is supposed to have fewer/milder GI side effects. It wouldn't hurt to ask your doc if you could try that out. And don't be too hard on yourself about not being under perfect control. It took longer than 3 months to *catch* the diabetes, it's going to take longer than 3 months to get it under control.

[CMike11]

Thank you, I may ask him Friday.

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

Thank you, I may ask him Friday.

I suspect insurance probably requires you have at least attempted the regular form of the med before going to extended release, and that your doc documents why you need it as it's a good deal more expensive. If he jumps through all the hoops you shouldn't have any trouble. I'm actually going to see if mine will approve it, too. Otherwise I'm going to end up on other stuff too and I don't want to have to do that.

[kenpoman]

I've been diabetic (type II) for years.
it sucks, but its manageable.

you've been given some very good advise. I'm gonna offer up
some from a different perspective.

1) metformin is a pain to be sure, but you body will adjust.
the alternative is much worse. during my adjustment period my
MD gave me stuff to make me constipated. it worked to balance
me out pretty well. but even today I gotta travel with long distances
with one eye on where the rest areas are.

3) since I was diagnosed, I've been to able to travel to: Mexico,
the Bahamas, Vegas, Philadelphia, DC. and other points. it took
very little adjustments while I was in good control. life does go on.
and once you get used to being part of our family, it gets easier.

4) diabetes educators are invaluable, provided you get a good one.
there is so much to learn at the start up its impossible to make sense
of things without them.

5) if your MD doesn't get it - and you - get a new one. being in sync with
your health care provider is vital. diabetes changes everything.

6) you CAN handle this.

7) eating out is a pain.

8) your life insurance has just gone to hell. my policy before diabetes
was $500,000 for about $100 a month. post diabetes, $200,000
for more that $100 a month.

9) you gotta watch your BP and your cholesterol. they WILL go up.
I'm not sure if its the diet or the way diabetes effects your body, but
it almost always happens.

10) learn to love wheat everything. crackers, pasta, bread.

11) look for higher fiber counts. fiber over 5 grams buys you more
carbs to play with.

12) just swearing off sodas alone will bring your numbers down.
think diet whatever.

13) check your eyesight at least once a year. diabetics go blind due
to miniture ruptures in the vessels. catching them early helps save vision.

14) take care of your feet. this is no joke. the feet are not very vascular
and so get in trouble easily. you've probably already lost some feeling in
them already. good shoes and socks are vital. I know plenty of diabetics
who have lost toes, feet, and legs for not taking this seriously.

15) in may cases podiatrists can get you the shoes you need for pennies
on the dollar via your insurance. ask your MD about it.

16) you gotta eat. you can't starve yourself. that just triggers your
blood sugar to rise.

17) if you gotta do finger ******, try this: wash your hand in warm
water and let it dangle by your side for about 3 min. it may help get
more blood with less needle.

18) unless your situtation is bad, you can still eat almost anything you
used to if you plan for it. its like running a business, supply and demand.

19) TV dinners are great for helping manage your diet. they take all
the guesswork out of things. some are even tolerable.

20) always carry a snack with you in case your sugars drop.

21) you CAN do this.

22) you didn't get here overnight, and you won't be in control
overnight. be patient.

an important point most healthcare folks won't tell you.
its your life, and only you can determine what makes it quality
for you. find the balance between compliance and luxury which
makes life work for you, and go with it.

diabetes is all about making informed choices. make the choices
which are best for you. nobody lives forever.

[kenpoman]

FYI: lose 20 lbs.
you'll be amazed at how far your levels drop

[kenpoman]

prominent members of the family.

1) Halle Berry
2) Wade Wilson, former NFL quarterback
3) Jake Cutler, current Chicago bears QB
4) Mary Tyler Moore
5) Nicole Johnson, Miss America 1999
6) Johnny Cash
7) Bobby Clarke, Philadelphia Flyers
8) Dick Clark
9) Mike Huckabee, POTUS canidate
10) George Lucas
11) Elvis
12) you

[kenpoman]

http://www.isletsofhope.com/
http://www.diabetes.org
http://diabeticrecipes.blogspot.com/2007_01_01_archive.html
http://dlife.com

[jwil59]

I apologize. I didn't realize there were new posts here.

I am sorry for spreading diabetes to almost the entire hannity forum:))

It does seem that more people have diabetes than I realized.

I am doing better pricking my finger. I do think it's an important control. How else do you know how you are doing unless you check regularly?

Diabetes is more involved than high blood pressure and high cholesterol. What can you do? Such is life.

The Metoformin is an issue for me. It does the job as far as lowering my sugar level, and when I don't take it properly I see a difference.

But...I always have had a nervous stomach, and it causes issues for me.

For example, one or two days a week I have a long drive in the morning. I have not taken the Metformin before breakfast during these days.

Frankly, I am scared too. I am afraid of a tummy issue during these long drives.

I guess the drug is tolerable, but as Emmanuel said it is evil incarnate, but in a necessary way.

This Friday I have a follow up with the doc.

I am very close to where I should be as far as my sugar level, but I am not quite there. I wonder if he is going to have me take the Metformin three times a days intead of two or just leave it alone.

I really appreciate all the input and good wishes. Thank you.

I am happy things are a little better Mike. my prayers for you friend.

hang in there buddy

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

7) eating out is a pain.


Almost every major chain has a nutrition guide online. Checking that out ahead of time helps a lot.

Tonight, my daughter decided to treat us to outback takeout. I got the 6 oz special (I'm not a big fan of red meat, so that was more than enough) with steamed vegs and salad w/o croutons (free!!). So no carbs in the meal/salad. Outback has what they call sampler sizes of their deserts. So I got a 'chocolate thunder from down under' sample size. It was about 1/4 cup of vanilla ice cream (1/2 carb) with a brownie about 1 1/2 inches square (prob about 25 gms or so). The chocolate drizzle was less than a tbsp (11 gms) so I figure the entire thing was probably between 2-3 carbs total. It satisfied my chocoholic craving and my sugar is 122. (doc wants fasting between 100 and 120, but that isn't fasting so I think I'm ok)

The chocolate thing isn't as bad as I thought it would be. I loves me some chocolate, of course, but I never really ate that much of it anyway. What did get me riled was being told that I could only have 1/2 cup of fruit juice. :evil:

So I found some ways to 'cheat' on that lol.

Ocean spray has a line of both diet and light juices. Diet has only 2 gms of carbs per 8 ounces (a full cup! woohoo!) which means I could drink the whole damn quart and still only count it as 1 carb (take THAT DE!!!). But even tastier is their light blends which have 10 carbs per cup (which means I can have 1 1/2 cups to = 1 carb). It is yummy and I get to drink my juice, dammit.

http://www.oceanspray.com/products/light_juice_drinks.aspx

http://www.oceanspray.com/products/diet_juice_drinks.aspx

I prefer those to diet sodas.

ETA: the welches brand diet and light juices are good too:

http://www.welchs.com/products/juices-and-drinks/livinglightly/diet-juices

http://www.welchs.com/products/juices-and-drinks/livinglightly/light-juices

[CMike11]

Thank you guys.

I am lucky that it was found early. I was going to the doc reguarly anyway because I also have high blood pressure, and high cholesterol. I was having regular blood tests.

I am lucky because of this.

[Gray]

Thank you.

The doctor did sentence me to taking a diabetic eduction course at one of the local hospitals.

I really appreciate all this great input.

I just found out how much more deadly High fructose corn syrup is than sugar. It causes insulin resistance and weight gain around the middle.

Then I found out how hard it is to find food without that crap in it.

You should not need a college degree to know how to eat.

Your life now means reading and understanding the labels of everything you eat.

Processed foods are the worst. If it is touched overmuch by man, then it is likely bad.

Hydrogenated oils take 50 days to eliminate 51% of what is consumed. That ought to scare the living crap out of any sane being.

Cinnamon REALLY DOES help control blood sugar.

Learn about the Glycemic index.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glycemic_index

Some foods break down into sugar faster than others. The ones that break down fast cause blood sugar spikes. The ones than break down slow give you a slow steady blood sugar level.

[Gray]

Thank you guys.

I am lucky that it was found early. I was going to the doc reguarly anyway because I also have high blood pressure, and high cholesterol. I was having regular blood tests.

I am lucky because of this.

I friend of mine had a doctor recommend Red Rice Yeast
for that.

[kenpoman]

Almost every major chain has a nutrition guide online. Checking that out ahead of time helps a lot.

Tonight, my daughter decided to treat us to outback takeout. I got the 6 oz special (I'm not a big fan of red meat, so that was more than enough) with steamed vegs and salad w/o croutons (free!!). So no carbs in the meal/salad. Outback has what they call sampler sizes of their deserts. So I got a 'chocolate thunder from down under' sample size. It was about 1/4 cup of vanilla ice cream (1/2 carb) with a brownie about 1 1/2 inches square (prob about 25 gms or so). The chocolate drizzle was less than a tbsp (11 gms) so I figure the entire thing was probably between 2-3 carbs total. It satisfied my chocoholic craving and my sugar is 122. (doc wants fasting between 100 and 120, but that isn't fasting so I think I'm ok)

The chocolate thing isn't as bad as I thought it would be. I loves me some chocolate, of course, but I never really ate that much of it anyway. What did get me riled was being told that I could only have 1/2 cup of fruit juice. :evil:

So I found some ways to 'cheat' on that lol.

Ocean spray has a line of both diet and light juices. Diet has only 2 gms of carbs per 8 ounces (a full cup! woohoo!) which means I could drink the whole damn quart and still only count it as 1 carb (take THAT DE!!!). But even tastier is their light blends which have 10 carbs per cup (which means I can have 1 1/2 cups to = 1 carb). It is yummy and I get to drink my juice, dammit.

http://www.oceanspray.com/products/light_juice_drinks.aspx

http://www.oceanspray.com/products/diet_juice_drinks.aspx

I prefer those to diet sodas.

ETA: the welches brand diet and light juices are good too:

http://www.welchs.com/products/juices-and-drinks/livinglightly/diet-juices

http://www.welchs.com/products/juices-and-drinks/livinglightly/light-juices


I've become a big fan of Mexican.
steak fajitas without the tortilla and black beans.
high living for us diabetics.

course, it comes with a side effect. but that's my
wife's problem :)

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

I've become a big fan of Mexican.
steak fajitas without the tortilla and black beans.
high living for us diabetics.

course, it comes with a side effect. but that's my
wife's problem :)I bet :lol:

The educator told us that beans are counted as carbs. The dietician told us beans are counted as protein. Ah well.

[CMike11]

I definetly see a marked increase in my sugar level when I don't take the Metformin when I am supposed to.

I just took it tonight and it was 278, that's the second highest since I started taking it two times a day for about two months.

I had for dinner sesame chicken and rice. I didn't take my pill before. The sesame chicken has a surgary sauce that is what makes it sweet and the rice is bad for me too.

For lunch I had a chicken salad sandwich.

I am a bit fakakt about how high my sugar level went tonight...

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

I definetly see a marked increase in my sugar level when I don't take the Metformin when I am supposed to.

I just took it tonight and it was 278, that's the second highest since I started taking it two times a day for about two months.

I had for dinner sesame chicken and rice. I didn't take my pill before. The sesame chicken has a surgary sauce that is what makes it sweet and the rice is bad for me too.

For lunch I had a chicken salad sandwich.

I am a bit fakakt about how high my sugar level went tonight...

Mine went to a little over 200 this evening. Maybe there's something in the air...

Have you had your diabetic ed yet? You should eat one carb and one protein every 4 hours. (well, don't wake up to do it...) If you go over 4-5 hours without any food your liver will kick out glycogen and that will make your sugars higher. I made that mistake when I first diagnosed myself (and before I saw the doc). I just kept going higher and higher and was scared to eat. Come to find out I was just making it worse.

So my high tonight was probably due to NOT eating. I haven't felt too well today---headachy, sleepy, not sick but not wanting to eat much at all. I'm kinda bummed that my sugar went that high. Hasn't been over 150 for some time now (and mostly under 125 consistently). Ya gotta watch those sauces; they do often have a lot of carbs in them.

A bit ago, I was down to 105. Ah well.

[CMike11]

I was 137 this morning. I have an appt. with the doc tomorrow morning.

I have been keeping the log book pretty good.

Yes, I took the class.

[kenpoman]

I bet :lol:

The educator told us that beans are counted as carbs. The dietician told us beans are counted as protein. Ah well.

brown beans bad
black beans good.

the fiber offsets the carbs, as long as you don't overdo.

[kenpoman]

I definetly see a marked increase in my sugar level when I don't take the Metformin when I am supposed to.

I just took it tonight and it was 278, that's the second highest since I started taking it two times a day for about two months.

I had for dinner sesame chicken and rice. I didn't take my pill before. The sesame chicken has a surgary sauce that is what makes it sweet and the rice is bad for me too.

For lunch I had a chicken salad sandwich.

I am a bit fakakt about how high my sugar level went tonight...

can't stress enough the importance of eating something on time
and taking the metformin as scheduled.

in a very simplistic sense control is all about keeping your pancreas
distracted. left to its own devices, it'll think you need more insulin.
eating at regular intervals and taking metformin on schedule is the
best way to do that.

and lose 20 lbs.

BTW: white rice is not your friend. brown rice is.

[kenpoman]

more coping ideas:

1) to keep the cheating down to a minimum, get one of the
diabetic cookbooks and a crock pot. you can prepair several
meals in advance

2) subscribe to diabetic living

3) keep apples and walnuts/peanuts around for snacking

4) when you order pizza (we all do from time to time) get
the chicken wings and a small pizza. eat the wings first.

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

http://www.diabetic-recipes.com/recipes.htm

http://www.dlife.com/diabetes/diabetic-recipes/

http://allrecipes.com/Recipes/Healthy-Cooking/Diabetic/Main.aspx

[CMike11]

I had my doc appointment. I am a little higher than I should be but he didn't up the meds.

He gave me a little lecture about eating right, although I am.

My next appointment is in four months.

[jwil59]

I had my doc appointment. I am a little higher than I should be but he didn't up the meds.

He gave me a little lecture about eating right, although I am.

My next appointment is in four months.

That's good news, no?

We are praying for you Mike

[CMike11]

Thank you JW and yes it is good news.

[mgifford]

I went to the doc friday and he diagnosed me with Diabetes type 2.

Diabetes has always freaked me out. I also have to test myself at him. The idea of pricking my own finger, kind of scares me.

Two weeks ago I restarted the Atkins diet. I think it's the perfect diet, since you eat very little sugar. You don't eat sugar, potatos, pasta, rice, or potatos.

Anyone have some words of enouragement?

Thank G-D he didn't diagnose me with cancer or something much more deadly.

The pricking, the diet and the careful living aren't very difficult. Diabetes is a "nasty" disease that can be controlled, but nasty just the same. If you have kids start informing them too. You're on my prayer list.

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

The pricking, the diet and the careful living aren't very difficult. Diabetes is a "nasty" disease that can be controlled, but nasty just the same. If you have kids start informing them too. You're on my prayer list.

My daughter found it quite sobering when I was diagnosed recently and she went online to read up on diabetes. I also reminded her that she no doubt has it in her future (not only is it throughout my Mom's side of the family---and now me too---but her father's as well).

[mgifford]

My daughter found it quite sobering when I was diagnosed recently and she went online to read up on diabetes. I also reminded her that she no doubt has it in her future (not only is it throughout my Mom's side of the family---and now me too---but her father's as well).

Very, very smart. It's all thru my family. I don't know anything about it but the name "Thrive Diet". My niece was so big a few months ago and said "I'm going to lose weight and get healthy". Her legs were as big as a phone pole. That isn't a cut!

She isn't very tall and all her family are over weight. In a few months she and her husband have lost 50 pounds.

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

Very, very smart. It's all thru my family. I don't know anything about it but the name "Thrive Diet". My niece was so big a few months ago and said "I'm going to lose weight and get healthy". Her legs were as big as a phone pole. That isn't a cut!

She isn't very tall and all her family are over weight. In a few months she and her husband have lost 50 pounds.
The strange thing is, other than her father's side, no one else was really overweight. My mom and all 7 of her siblings had type II, and a majority of their children ended up with it too. They were all 'normal' weight or less than 20 pounds overweight. On my Dad's side of the family, where there are some who are quite overweight, there is no diabetes at all. None. He went back as far as he could remember with all of his family and couldn't come up with anyone who'd had diabetes. Strange...

[bitterclinger84]

I went to the doc friday and he diagnosed me with Diabetes type 2.

Diabetes has always freaked me out. I also have to test myself at him. The idea of pricking my own finger, kind of scares me.

Two weeks ago I restarted the Atkins diet. I think it's the perfect diet, since you eat very little sugar. You don't eat sugar, potatos, pasta, rice, or potatos.

Anyone have some words of enouragement?

Thank G-D he didn't diagnose me with cancer or something much more deadly.

:hug:

I would just say follow the dr's instructions as closely as you possibly can. It's extremely important.

[CMike11]

When the doc diagnosed me the first thing he asked me is how in my family has it.

Both my mother and father have it.

[kenpoman]

The strange thing is, other than her father's side, no one else was really overweight. My mom and all 7 of her siblings had type II, and a majority of their children ended up with it too. They were all 'normal' weight or less than 20 pounds overweight. On my Dad's side of the family, where there are some who are quite overweight, there is no diabetes at all. None. He went back as far as he could remember with all of his family and couldn't come up with anyone who'd had diabetes. Strange...

I asked my MD about that.
I'm a bit heavy, but by no means obiese. and there is no family
history of it, and I'm the thinninst in my family but 40lbs.

he said it untimately comes down to personal genetics.

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

I asked my MD about that.
I'm a bit heavy, but by no means obiese. and there is no family
history of it, and I'm the thinninst in my family but 40lbs.

he said it untimately comes down to personal genetics.

Yup.

My family (both sides) is remarkably healthy. The diabetes on my Mom's side is really the only major problem to speak of.

[Gray]

I asked my MD about that.
I'm a bit heavy, but by no means obiese. and there is no family
history of it, and I'm the thinninst in my family but 40lbs.

he said it untimately comes down to personal genetics.

That does not compute with the fact that it is on the rise.

There is a LOT of crap in our available food that is hurting us.



I just saw a study that said that high fructose corn syrup is much worse than sugar. It causes insulin resistance and weight gain much faster.

Then I tried to find food without it in it.

Good freakin' damn luck with that! It can be done but it is not easy. Especially since I try to avoid Hydrogenated oil also.

One thing I have learned recently.

Monounsaturated fats are very very good for you.

Not so easy to find...olive oil, sunflower seeds, some peanuts and peanut butter,..

[Tucson Jim]

Dude, I've been living almost carb and sugar free for the past year. Lost 150+lbs and loving my new self. It's rough at first, your body craves the stuff, but with a bit of stubborness you'll find plenty to enjoy in meat, fish, and veggies. Steam some broccoli, add some salt, lemon and olive oil and you have a great side to a nice sirloin steak.

I tried it but have a hard time avoiding the sweets I love. Any suggestions?

[Tucson Jim]

I went to the doc friday and he diagnosed me with Diabetes type 2.

Diabetes has always freaked me out. I also have to test myself at him. The idea of pricking my own finger, kind of scares me.

Two weeks ago I restarted the Atkins diet. I think it's the perfect diet, since you eat very little sugar. You don't eat sugar, potatos, pasta, rice, or potatos.

Anyone have some words of enouragement?

Thank G-D he didn't diagnose me with cancer or something much more deadly.

Hey Mike, I have several friends with type 2 diabetes. All are doing well - following the diet and exercise program recommended by their doctors.

I believe your outlook is good and I will pray for you.

Take care of yourself!

Jim

[traditional_woman]

I've known ppl who cured themselves of the disease by diet change and exercise. My 7yro got type 1 when he was 3. Unfortunately at this time there is no cure for it. If there is any kind to get, you want it to be type2.

Sounds like you're doing good Mike. :)

[Gray]

I tried it but have a hard time avoiding the sweets I love. Any suggestions?

There are tons of sugar free alternatives.

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

There are tons of sugar free alternatives.

Careful of those containing sorbitol or "sugar alcohol". They have some rather unpleasant side effects.

Interestingly enough, many 'sugar-free' snacks contain the same (or nearly the same) amount of carbs per serving as the real thing. Sometimes more. That's why it's important to read the nutrition info and note the number of grams of carbs. Ignore the 'sugar-free' label. It can get you in trouble.

[CMike11]

Be careful with the sugar alternatives, some can cause, as was already mentioned, unpleasant side effects.

My main issue now is the Metforming. It does a good job, but I don't like the tummy problems it causes. It effects my quality of life.

[Tucson Jim]

Be careful with the sugar alternatives, some can cause, as was already mentioned, unpleasant side effects.

My main issue now is the Metforming. It does a good job, but I don't like the tummy problems it causes. It effects my quality of life.

Exactly what stomach problems does it cause you?

Stomach pain could be a sign of lactic acidosis, a very serious condition.

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

Exactly what stomach problems does it cause you?

Stomach pain could be a sign of lactic acidosis, a very serious condition.
I suspect he's talking about diarrhea. Bad can't-be-more-than-10-feet-from-the-bathroom diarrhea. With me, it included severe nausea/vomiting and monumental headaches. Good times.

[CMike11]

I suspect he's talking about diarrhea. Bad can't-be-more-than-10-feet-from-the-bathroom diarrhea. With me, it included severe nausea/vomiting and monumental headaches. Good times.

Diarrhea as you said.

At least the Metformin helped me lose weight, which actually I think has helped my sugar level.

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

Diarrhea as you said.

At least the Metformin helped me lose weight, which actually I think has helped my sugar level.
My evil daughter told me 'anyone would lose weight if all they do is vomit and run to the bathroom'. Brat.

[CMike11]

My numbers seem to be better this week even though I didn't change anything.

Maybe the Metformin gets more effective in time.

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

My numbers seem to be better this week even though I didn't change anything.

Maybe the Metformin gets more effective in time.

Your weight lost probably helped with that.

[jwil59]

My numbers seem to be better this week even though I didn't change anything.

Maybe the Metformin gets more effective in time.

I am happy about those numbers Mike. My prayers buddy. hang tough man

[CMike11]

Well...I went to the doctor yesterday. I complained about the Metformin aka The Pill Of Death.

I was having chronic stomach problems.

He changed the meds. He was hoping my body would adjust to it.

He gave me now two meds to make up for the Metformin -- Actos and Glyburide

The constant diarrhea was really unpleasant.

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

Well...I went to the doctor yesterday. I complained about the Metformin aka The Pill Of Death.

I was having chronic stomach problems.

He changed the meds. He was hoping my body would adjust to it.

He gave me now two meds to make up for the Metformin -- Actos and Glyburide

The constant diarrhea was really unpleasant.
Indeed. So far, I'm managing to hang on with the metformin.

With those new meds, be aware your sugar can drop too low (that's not such a big issue with metformin). Know the signs and symptoms of low blood sugar and always carry your meter and a fast acting carb with you. (pure sugar, not something like chocolate) All pharmacies sell glucose tabs that are equivalent to 15 grams of carbs. (they also have tubes of glucose... looks like decorator icing) A half-cup of soda (sugared) works fast too. You can go online and get examples of what to use. And be especially watchful of this if/when you are more active.

Even if you don't know what your sugar is, if you're symptomatic then treat it as if you ARE low. Then eat a meal with carbs and protein asap.

ETA: I found this; gives some good examples of carbs to use/have on hand:

http://www.ucsfhealth.org/adult/edu/lowSugar.html

[kenpoman]

Indeed. So far, I'm managing to hang on with the metformin.

With those new meds, be aware your sugar can drop too low (that's not such a big issue with metformin). Know the signs and symptoms of low blood sugar and always carry your meter and a fast acting carb with you. (pure sugar, not something like chocolate) All pharmacies sell glucose tabs that are equivalent to 15 grams of carbs. (they also have tubes of glucose... looks like decorator icing) A half-cup of soda (sugared) works fast too. You can go online and get examples of what to use. And be especially watchful of this if/when you are more active.

Even if you don't know what your sugar is, if you're symptomatic then treat it as if you ARE low. Then eat a meal with carbs and protein asap.

ETA: I found this; gives some good examples of carbs to use/have on hand:

http://www.ucsfhealth.org/adult/edu/lowSugar.html

orange juice (commercial, not pure) is also good.
its also a good idea to carry some kind of snack with you at all times.
life savers for when you need sugars and carbs, lance crackers for when
you don't.

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

orange juice (commercial, not pure) is also good.
its also a good idea to carry some kind of snack with you at all times.
life savers for when you need sugars and carbs, lance crackers for when
you don't.
Yep. I carry a couple of south beach bars. They have 1 carb and 1 protein... and they taste good too :)

[jimjames418]

Indeed. So far, I'm managing to hang on with the metformin.
That is the one the doctor has me on. But I have not been able to find out what the reading should be on the meter. Mine is always between 120 and 130, and the doctor says that is good. But the ads on TV for those meters show like 104 or lower. What should the readings be?

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

That is the one the doctor has me on. But I have not been able to find out what the reading should be on the meter. Mine is always between 120 and 130, and the doctor says that is good. But the ads on TV for those meters show like 104 or lower. What should the readings be?That depends on what your doctor wants it to be.

Normal (fasting) blood sugar is 70-100. My doc wants mine under 120. I've been consistently below 130, and mostly below 120. I'm trying to do better :)

[kenpoman]

That is the one the doctor has me on. But I have not been able to find out what the reading should be on the meter. Mine is always between 120 and 130, and the doctor says that is good. But the ads on TV for those meters show like 104 or lower. What should the readings be?

don't be fool by the TV ads.

they're like Victoria Secrets models. an ideal most of us
can't reach without unrealistic sacrifice.

like EG said, your MD will tell you where he/she wants you to be.
128 is the top end of normal, so you're "there" already.

the main point of meters for most folks is to use as a guide.
it lets you know how you're doing on a day to day, meal to meal
basis. the real number is your A1C. that's the one you wanna
keep low.

the strictly number crunchers will tell you your A1C ideally needs
to be below 6.0. for most folks, if you can keep it under 6.6 you'll
be doing just fine.

control is the journey, not the destination.
you're gonna have days your glucose is gonna be 180s.
you're gonna have A1Cs over 7.0
it happens. don't freak when it does. your MD will tell you
went to be concerned.

[kenpoman]

a word about physicians.

there is a hugh debate about what MD to see.
some folks insist on an endocrineologist. some say the regular
internist.

here is my POV on the matter. see the MD who is treating
the diabetic, not the diabetes. these are two very different things.
someone treating the disease will be focused on the numbers alone.
someone treating the diabetic will look at a larger picture.

while both have their place, to me its about quality of life.

[samurai7]

I went to the doc friday and he diagnosed me with Diabetes type 2.

Diabetes has always freaked me out. I also have to test myself at him. The idea of pricking my own finger, kind of scares me.

Two weeks ago I restarted the Atkins diet. I think it's the perfect diet, since you eat very little sugar. You don't eat sugar, potatos, pasta, rice, or potatos.

Anyone have some words of enouragement?

Thank G-D he didn't diagnose me with cancer or something much more deadly.

I just got diagnosed with a pre-diabetic condition so I fully understand where you are coming from.

You have my prayers. Stick with eating right. It will save your life. :hug:

[CMike11]

That is the one the doctor has me on. But I have not been able to find out what the reading should be on the meter. Mine is always between 120 and 130, and the doctor says that is good. But the ads on TV for those meters show like 104 or lower. What should the readings be?

It should be about below 120 in the morning before eating and about below 170 after din din.

Below is a chart with a link that will give you a more extensive answer.

http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=17384

[CMike11]

Indeed. So far, I'm managing to hang on with the metformin.

With those new meds, be aware your sugar can drop too low (that's not such a big issue with metformin). Know the signs and symptoms of low blood sugar and always carry your meter and a fast acting carb with you. (pure sugar, not something like chocolate) All pharmacies sell glucose tabs that are equivalent to 15 grams of carbs. (they also have tubes of glucose... looks like decorator icing) A half-cup of soda (sugared) works fast too. You can go online and get examples of what to use. And be especially watchful of this if/when you are more active.

Even if you don't know what your sugar is, if you're symptomatic then treat it as if you ARE low. Then eat a meal with carbs and protein asap.

ETA: I found this; gives some good examples of carbs to use/have on hand:

http://www.ucsfhealth.org/adult/edu/lowSugar.html

Today is my 4th day on the new drugs.

My sugar level was 118 this morning.

Most importantly no diarrhea and stomach aches.

It was really really really unpleasant for me being on the Metformin.

[CMike11]

Thank you Samuari.

[jimjames418]

Thanks all for your replies to my post. They were very helpful and insightful. My A1C has never been over 6.0 so I guess I am doing all right. ;)

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

Thanks all for your replies to my post. They were very helpful and insightful. My A1C has never been over 6.0 so I guess I am doing all right. ;)
Excellent!!! :D

[CMike11]

The A1 is an average.

Make sure you keep checking your blood sugar level.

[yawnef]

I'm new to these forums, so am coming in late to your topic. I'm also a Type 2, diagnosed 4 years ago, and a retired RN.

A book recommendation for you - Type 2 Diabetes: An Essential Guide for the Newly Diagnosed by Gretchen Becker. Written so anyone can understand it.

Remember this - YMMV - Your Mileage May Vary. No matter how anyone else reacts to certain drugs, foods, etc - we are all different, so YMMV.

The one piece of advice I tell all newly diagnosed - TEST, TEST, TEST.
You cannot know how different foods will affect your own blood sugar unless, and until, you test yourself.

Check your glucose before a meal; test it in one hour; then test again at 2 hours. Your 2 hour glucose should be within 20-30 points of your before dinner number.

Things that are evil for me include potatoes, pasta, bread, all things made with flour - no matter whether they are white or whole wheat.

One pasta product that I find works for me - Carba Nada by al dente - http://www.aldentepasta.com/carbanada/carbanada.html

Has half the carbs of other pastas. The garlic flavored is wonderful. Only problem is it only comes in the egg noodle shape. My husband, who is not diabetic, really likes it and we use it for eveything except Mac & Cheese.

Hope some of this helps you.

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

Thanks! I'm going to look for that pasta.

I'm not much of a meat-eater, so it's been hard for me to cut down on fruits and vegs that would raise my blood sugar. I have cut out cereal (at least until I'm under better control); for some reason that jacks it up way too much. I do like pasta tho', so this will help :)

About testing... ya gotta watch out. Some insurance will only pay for a certain amount of strips per month. Mine allows 100; I think the doc can try to get that bumped a bit, but it's a pain in the butt. Even with insurance, I'm paying $30 for each.

[yawnef]

Thanks! I'm going to look for that pasta.

I'm not much of a meat-eater, so it's been hard for me to cut down on fruits and vegs that would raise my blood sugar. I have cut out cereal (at least until I'm under better control); for some reason that jacks it up way too much. I do like pasta tho', so this will help :)

About testing... ya gotta watch out. Some insurance will only pay for a certain amount of strips per month. Mine allows 100; I think the doc can try to get that bumped a bit, but it's a pain in the butt. Even with insurance, I'm paying $30 for each.

I know about the cost of strips :mad: I'm on Medicare and they only pay for 100 every 3 months if you're not on insulin - and I'm not. I supplement by buying my own. Have found a couple of places where I can get 100 for between $55 - $60. That's a much better price than the $100 my medical supply place charges.

One would think that these companies would like it if we tested often and caught problems before they got worse. How much better for diabetics to test often and avoided renal problems and neuropathy.

I think you will enjoy the pasta.

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

I know about the cost of strips :mad: I'm on Medicare and they only pay for 100 every 3 months if you're not on insulin - and I'm not. I supplement by buying my own. Have found a couple of places where I can get 100 for between $55 - $60. That's a much better price than the $100 my medical supply place charges.

One would think that these companies would like it if we tested often and caught problems before they got worse. How much better for diabetics to test often and avoided renal problems and neuropathy.

I think you will enjoy the pasta.

Insurance has never been one for preventative care...

I went to the store tonight and that one didn't carry the pasta. I'll have to call around tomorrow.

ETA: I totally missed that you can order online lol. Thanks!

[CMike11]

Dreamfield pasta is low carb.

[yawnef]

Dreamfield pasta is low carb.

Not exactly. Dreamfields has 41 gms of carb per 2 ounce serving. It also has 5 gms of fiber for the same size serving. Their website says -
Q. Why do you say that Dreamfields Pasta only has 5 grams of digestible carbs when the nutrition label states that it has 41 grams of carbohydrates?
A. While the total number of carbohydrates is the same as traditional pasta, our patent-pending formula and unique manufacturing process protects all but 5 grams of carbohydrates from being digested. The Dreamfields fiber and protein blend creates a protective barrier to reduce starch digestion in the small intestine. The unabsorbed, or protected carbohydrates (http://www.dreamfieldsfoods.com/diet-information.html#term0015) then pass to the colon where they are fermented, providing the same health benefits as fiber.
Carba Nada has only 24 gms of carbs per 2 ounce serving, and 6 gms of fiber.

I have tried Dreamfields pasta, several times. It does not work for me the same way it might for you or others. That's why you need to heed YMMV. As an aside, we don't think it tastes as good ad the carba nada - it's too gummy. That is only my opinion.

[jwil59]

Not exactly. Dreamfields has 41 gms of carb per 2 ounce serving. It also has 5 gms of fiber for the same size serving. Their website says -
Carba Nada has only 24 gms of carbs per 2 ounce serving, and 6 gms of fiber.

I have tried Dreamfields pasta, several times. It does not work for me the same way it might for you or others. That's why you need to heed YMMV. As an aside, we don't think it tastes as good ad the carba nada - it's too gummy. That is only my opinion.

Welcome ot thre forum..............

My prayers for you guys

[CMike11]

I had a check up today.

Thank G-D for the new drugs. I am doing much better than being on the Metformin. The Metformin played havoc on my stomach.

My readings have been better on the new drugs too.

My readings after dinner have been below 170. The doc said they should be below 140.

Also, he told me he wants me to exercise five days a week. I have only been exercising about twice a week.

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

I had a check up today.

Thank G-D for the new drugs. I am doing much better than being on the Metformin. The Metformin played havoc on my stomach.

My readings have been better on the new drugs too.

My readings after dinner have been below 170. The doc said they should be below 140.

Also, he told me he wants me to exercise five days a week. I have only been exercising about twice a week.
Just be careful, especially with your new meds. Eat prior to exercise, and carry a fast-acting carb with you. Our educator suggested one carb with a protein before exercise to sustain your blood sugar through the activity.

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

Not exactly. Dreamfields has 41 gms of carb per 2 ounce serving. It also has 5 gms of fiber for the same size serving. Their website says -
Carba Nada has only 24 gms of carbs per 2 ounce serving, and 6 gms of fiber.

I have tried Dreamfields pasta, several times. It does not work for me the same way it might for you or others. That's why you need to heed YMMV. As an aside, we don't think it tastes as good ad the carba nada - it's too gummy. That is only my opinion.
Reading about it online, it seems to have mixed reviews. I guess it comes down to what works for you personally.

While searching, I found this with some good links included:

http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/cooking/a/pastasubs.htm

http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/recipes/u/lowcarbrecipes.htm

[yawnef]

Reading about it online, it seems to have mixed reviews. I guess it comes down to what works for you personally.

While searching, I found this with some good links included:

http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/cooking/a/pastasubs.htm

http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/recipes/u/lowcarbrecipes.htm


Thanks for those links. For myself, I have found that cauliflower is a wonderful substitute for a multitude of high carb foods. I use it in place of potatoes as well as pastas.

[Dr. Funkenstein]

I decided to take a drastic course of action recently, because I haven't been able to stick to any kind of weight-loss program.

I decided to no longer eat while I'm at work, unless I have a game of some sort at night (softball or volleyball, usually once or twice a week) or if my levels start getting too low. Now I wake up, take my thyroid medication, shower and dress, take Metformin #1 for the day (usually with milk), and go to work.

After work, grab something small (half-sandwich, pack of peanuts, etc) and eat that on the way to the gym, then do my workout (lifting for stamina followed by 15-20 minutes of cardio). Dinner when I get home (so far, not restricted from any particular foods :pray: )

From a glucose level standpoint, I'm seeing improvement except for the times when I overdo it at dinner (as a person who has topped out at a weight exceeding 375 might tend to do)...those nights I might spike into the 200's. But for the most part, I'm staying in the 120-160 range, and not feeling any kind of ill effect from this "diet" plan.

I don't know how much I've lost at this point (scale only goes up to 330), but I know I've gone from the 2nd notch in my belt to the 4th. And I'm not nearly as winded after a softball game as I was just 3-4 weeks ago.

I realize this isn't the BEST idea...believe me, everyone in my life has already told me...but the last time I did it (pre-diagnosis) I ended up losing 110 pounds and actually managed to have some "intimacy" with my girlfriend (now wife). I'd be THRILLED right now to get under 300 by the end of this year, and work on the bedroom matters too.

[Dr. Funkenstein]

Thanks for those links. For myself, I have found that cauliflower is a wonderful substitute for a multitude of high carb foods. I use it in place of potatoes as well as pastas.
:sick:

Cauliflower is albino broccoli...no friggin' way ;)

[johnrocks]

I got put on Diabetes medicine this past week, I knew it was coming with both parents diabetic and me out eating a cafeteria trash bin for most of my life.

[kwc57]

I got put on Diabetes medicine this past week, I knew it was coming with both parents diabetic and me out eating a cafeteria trash bin for most of my life.

Sorry to hear that John. I'm 52 and found out I was Type 1 when I was 17 wayyyyyyy back in 1974. I use an insulin pump and my insurance just approved the contineous glucose monitor senso that works with my pump. It arrived by UPS this morning. Now I have to get trained on it. Being involved in Boy Scouts and being outdoors, this will help revolutionize my life.

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

I decided to take a drastic course of action recently, because I haven't been able to stick to any kind of weight-loss program.

I decided to no longer eat while I'm at work, unless I have a game of some sort at night (softball or volleyball, usually once or twice a week) or if my levels start getting too low. Now I wake up, take my thyroid medication, shower and dress, take Metformin #1 for the day (usually with milk), and go to work.

After work, grab something small (half-sandwich, pack of peanuts, etc) and eat that on the way to the gym, then do my workout (lifting for stamina followed by 15-20 minutes of cardio). Dinner when I get home (so far, not restricted from any particular foods :pray: )

From a glucose level standpoint, I'm seeing improvement except for the times when I overdo it at dinner (as a person who has topped out at a weight exceeding 375 might tend to do)...those nights I might spike into the 200's. But for the most part, I'm staying in the 120-160 range, and not feeling any kind of ill effect from this "diet" plan.

I don't know how much I've lost at this point (scale only goes up to 330), but I know I've gone from the 2nd notch in my belt to the 4th. And I'm not nearly as winded after a softball game as I was just 3-4 weeks ago.

I realize this isn't the BEST idea...believe me, everyone in my life has already told me...but the last time I did it (pre-diagnosis) I ended up losing 110 pounds and actually managed to have some "intimacy" with my girlfriend (now wife). I'd be THRILLED right now to get under 300 by the end of this year, and work on the bedroom matters too.

Hun, you're asking for trouble. Seriously. You can't go that long without food. I don't care what your weight is.

Have you seen a diabetic ed/nutritionist yet?

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

I got put on Diabetes medicine this past week, I knew it was coming with both parents diabetic and me out eating a cafeteria trash bin for most of my life.

Aw :hug:

Welcome to the club lol.

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

Thanks for those links. For myself, I have found that cauliflower is a wonderful substitute for a multitude of high carb foods. I use it in place of potatoes as well as pastas.I'm not sure I could take it as a sub for potatoes, but I'm willing to try some of the suggestions for faux pasta :)

[blackcatrun]

I'm not sure I could take it as a sub for potatoes, but I'm willing to try some of the suggestions for faux pasta :)

Some country I forget at this moment makes a Rice flour and Rice paste that they then dry into a pasta.


It's very good and very light for the diet minded and accepts flavers easly.

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

Some country I forget at this moment makes a Rice flour and Rice paste that they then dry into a pasta.


It's very good and very light for the diet minded and accepts flavers easly.

This? http://www.tinkyada.com/

I wonder what the carb content is...

[yawnef]

Some country I forget at this moment makes a Rice flour and Rice paste that they then dry into a pasta.


It's very good and very light for the diet minded and accepts flavers easly.

Rice products wreak havoc on my blood glucose. I wish they didn't :frown:

[yawnef]

This? http://www.tinkyada.com/

I wonder what the carb content is...


Try this site - http://www.thedailyplate.com/nutrition-calories/food/tinkyada/pasta-joy-ready-brown-rice-pasta-fettucini-style-with-rice-bran-14-oz


Too many carbs for me.

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

Rice products wreak havoc on my blood glucose. I wish they didn't :frown:
I'm still too early in my diagnosis to know... except I found that cereal seems to be a big no-no. Strangely enough, potatoes don't seem to jack it up like I expected they might (a friend of mine can't even look at a potato without his sugar going through the roof lol)

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

Try this site - http://www.thedailyplate.com/nutrition-calories/food/tinkyada/pasta-joy-ready-brown-rice-pasta-fettucini-style-with-rice-bran-14-oz


Too many carbs for me.

Ah thanks. What a terrible label. 2 ounces dry doesn't tell me a damned thing. I want to know how much cooked. 3 carbs is ok, but I wouldn't be able to eat any other carbs with it... (I try to stay with 2-3 carbs per meal)

[CMike11]

I got put on Diabetes medicine this past week, I knew it was coming with both parents diabetic and me out eating a cafeteria trash bin for most of my life.

Welcome to the party pal

[CMike11]

Thanks for those links. For myself, I have found that cauliflower is a wonderful substitute for a multitude of high carb foods. I use it in place of potatoes as well as pastas.

Actually what I do with cauliflower is boil it, put it in a blender, add in cream cheese, parmesan cheese, and about two chicken boillion.

You then have mock potatos. It's pretty good.

[CMike11]

Just be careful, especially with your new meds. Eat prior to exercise, and carry a fast-acting carb with you. Our educator suggested one carb with a protein before exercise to sustain your blood sugar through the activity.

Actually I exercise in the morning. I never eat before exercising.

[yawnef]

Actually what I do with cauliflower is boil it, put it in a blender, add in cream cheese, parmesan cheese, and about two chicken boillion.

You then have mock potatos. It's pretty good.

Thanks so much for that recipe. I'm going to try that soon.
Maybe add a bit of garlic, also :)

[CMike11]

Thanks so much for that recipe. I'm going to try that soon.
Maybe add a bit of garlic, also :)

It's really good. Garlic sounds good too. It's good for you and also has the added benefit of keeping away vampires.

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

Actually I exercise in the morning. I never eat before exercising.

Not good...

[jwil59]

My constant prayers for all you folks struggling with Diabetes.

[CMike11]

My constant prayers for all you folks struggling with Diabetes.

Thank you for your PM Jeff.

[CMike11]

Not good...

That's the way I have done it for years.

[jwil59]

Thank you for your PM Jeff.

No problem brother

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

That's the way I have done it for years.

And now you're diabetic taking meds that actively reduce your blood sugar. You don't have to eat a meal; the DE suggested to us one carb/one protein. A few crackers and some cheese, for example ... something tho' that will help keep your sugar stable while you exercise --- especially if you're looking to bump up your activity. And take along a fast acting carb in case you do drop. Please be careful...

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

My constant prayers for all you folks struggling with Diabetes.

Thank you :hug:

[Harmonious]

Actually I exercise in the morning. I never eat before exercising.

My sister says I should try that. Maybe it will help with the weight loss.

I discovered I had Type II Diabetes on the second day of Passover in 2006. (The friend who served Matza Pizza for lunch felt insanely guilty, but it wasn't her fault that the holiday includes eating massive amounts of starch, between the Matza and the wine/grape juice.)

I don't have any neat suggestions, although it is an interesting fact that when I call the podiatrist for any reason, they get me in THAT DAY, as opposed to later that week.

When visiting the opthomologist, I've discovered that they give diabetes patients VIP treatment. That includes same day service, but it also means that they have a special test to check for retinal damage that usually costs extra. (That means a LOT when you don't have insurance.)

God bless, Mike. :hug: And everyone else in the thread.

[Harmonious]

My constant prayers for all you folks struggling with Diabetes.Thank you. :hug:

[wonderingrover]

Hey Emma, quick question. My doctor is wanting to put me on Avandia, so that I can hopefully come off of the insulin (Lantus, 10 units/day). I've read that there have been issues with Avandia causing heart problems - just wanted to check to see if you had heard any information on that?

My sugar numbers are looking pretty good right now (typically between 85 - 115). I've not had any heart issues, but I am on medication for high blood pressure. I'm just wondering if this new medication would be safe. He said he wanted to get me off the insulin because it could cause problems with the heart, but if the Avandia causes problems with the heart, it just doesn't make too much sense to me.

[Dr. Funkenstein]

Hun, you're asking for trouble. Seriously. You can't go that long without food. I don't care what your weight is.

Have you seen a diabetic ed/nutritionist yet?
It's 20 hours, tops (usually finish dinner around 9 pm), and it's just three days a week for the most part (sometimes less in a busy sports week).

I haven't seen a nutritionist yet, but I did talk to my GP about it. I also keep an eye on myself, both by checking my glucose (when I'm smart enough to remember to bring my meter with me to work, which I wasn't today) and by keeping a checklist of signs of low blood sugar on my desk.

I know this isn't the best idea, and I would never suggest it to anyone else. Honestly, this is my last step before I start exploring surgical options...just to give an insight to how desperate I've gotten about this. Everyone says that I should do 4-6 small meals instead of one big meal and a snack. My issue with that is I have never been able to control myself with the 4-6 small meals and two of them end up being much bigger than "small".

[mgifford]

I haven't been able to contol my Diabetes lately. It's always in th 200's. Wish I could

[johnrocks]

It's 20 hours, tops (usually finish dinner around 9 pm), and it's just three days a week for the most part (sometimes less in a busy sports week).

I haven't seen a nutritionist yet, but I did talk to my GP about it. I also keep an eye on myself, both by checking my glucose (when I'm smart enough to remember to bring my meter with me to work, which I wasn't today) and by keeping a checklist of signs of low blood sugar on my desk.

I know this isn't the best idea, and I would never suggest it to anyone else. Honestly, this is my last step before I start exploring surgical options...just to give an insight to how desperate I've gotten about this. Everyone says that I should do 4-6 small meals instead of one big meal and a snack. My issue with that is I have never been able to control myself with the 4-6 small meals and two of them end up being much bigger than "small".

Dr.,I feel ya,my friend. I started cutting back just a couple weeks ago, I just cut out the cokes and snack food and although I have not weighed,I feel a tab better and my belt does not seem quite as snug and my face feels like at least one chin has retreated a bit.:lol:

[CMike11]

Hey Emma, quick question. My doctor is wanting to put me on Avandia, so that I can hopefully come off of the insulin (Lantus, 10 units/day). I've read that there have been issues with Avandia causing heart problems - just wanted to check to see if you had heard any information on that?

My sugar numbers are looking pretty good right now (typically between 85 - 115). I've not had any heart issues, but I am on medication for high blood pressure. I'm just wondering if this new medication would be safe. He said he wanted to get me off the insulin because it could cause problems with the heart, but if the Avandia causes problems with the heart, it just doesn't make too much sense to me.

I don't think any of us are here are qualified to tell you what drug to take.

Here is some info about the drug.

http://www.rxlist.com/avandia-drug.htm

[CMike11]

I haven't been able to contol my Diabetes lately. It's always in th 200's. Wish I could

What does your doc say?

[Dr. Funkenstein]

Dr.,I feel ya,my friend. I started cutting back just a couple weeks ago, I just cut out the cokes and snack food and although I have not weighed,I feel a tab better and my belt does not seem quite as snug and my face feels like at least one chin has retreated a bit.:lol:
Generally speaking, I don't drink anything with sugar in it (save for the occasional G2 during a game, and those are less than a third of the sugar as soda, and once in a blue lagoon I'll drink real soda if I'm out to dinner because I'm not a big fan of diet coke/pepsi and I drink water all day to start with). I haven't since the diagnosis because I convinced myself that my four 20 oz Mountain Dew/day habit (that had been in effect for approximately a year) was a direct cause of me going from a fasting glucose # of 120 to 350.

The last couple of months, I've been fighting my sugar urges less successfully (sour patch kids, swedish fish, gummi bears, etc), but I know I have to do better.

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

Hey Emma, quick question. My doctor is wanting to put me on Avandia, so that I can hopefully come off of the insulin (Lantus, 10 units/day). I've read that there have been issues with Avandia causing heart problems - just wanted to check to see if you had heard any information on that?

My sugar numbers are looking pretty good right now (typically between 85 - 115). I've not had any heart issues, but I am on medication for high blood pressure. I'm just wondering if this new medication would be safe. He said he wanted to get me off the insulin because it could cause problems with the heart, but if the Avandia causes problems with the heart, it just doesn't make too much sense to me.

It can worsen or cause heart failure in susceptible people:

http://www.avandia.com/

Your doc knows what's best for you. Talk with him about your concerns and don't let him brush you off.

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

It's 20 hours, tops (usually finish dinner around 9 pm), and it's just three days a week for the most part (sometimes less in a busy sports week).

I haven't seen a nutritionist yet, but I did talk to my GP about it. I also keep an eye on myself, both by checking my glucose (when I'm smart enough to remember to bring my meter with me to work, which I wasn't today) and by keeping a checklist of signs of low blood sugar on my desk.

I know this isn't the best idea, and I would never suggest it to anyone else. Honestly, this is my last step before I start exploring surgical options...just to give an insight to how desperate I've gotten about this. Everyone says that I should do 4-6 small meals instead of one big meal and a snack. My issue with that is I have never been able to control myself with the 4-6 small meals and two of them end up being much bigger than "small".
Don't think of them as 'meals'. You should eat one carb/one protein every 4-5 hours. Otherwise, your liver kicks out glycogen and causes a rise in your blood sugar. Put together some crackers and cheese in some baggies (one baggie for every 4 hours), and take them with you. 20 hours? That's far too long to go not eating right.

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

I haven't been able to contol my Diabetes lately. It's always in th 200's. Wish I could

Mine has gotten a bit out of hand over the last couple of weeks. I think it's a combination of stress and this darn pollen causing sinus issues (again). I was running 100-120 consistently. Now I'm in the 130's, and my post-prandials are up to the 150's :(

I don't want him to put me on anything else (which he said he will do if I don't get under tighter control)... so the thought of that is stressing me out too lol.

Sheesh.

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

Generally speaking, I don't drink anything with sugar in it (save for the occasional G2 during a game, and those are less than a third of the sugar as soda, and once in a blue lagoon I'll drink real soda if I'm out to dinner because I'm not a big fan of diet coke/pepsi and I drink water all day to start with). I haven't since the diagnosis because I convinced myself that my four 20 oz Mountain Dew/day habit (that had been in effect for approximately a year) was a direct cause of me going from a fasting glucose # of 120 to 350.

The last couple of months, I've been fighting my sugar urges less successfully (sour patch kids, swedish fish, gummi bears, etc), but I know I have to do better.
My daughter (AKA The Carb Nazi) watches me like a hawk lol. She informs me of the carb content of everything that enters the house :neutral:

Those little 100 calorie packs (cookies, crackers, etc.) have only one carb per package. Perhaps you could use those as a snack to curb your sweet-tooth? (keep it to just one pack, tho')

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

Dr. Funk, I think I posted it earlier on this thread (not sure), but I love juice. It really ****ed me off that they were telling me I could only have 1/2 cup per day. Ugh.

So Carb Nazi found me some Ocean Spray lite and diet juices. The diet only has like 5 grams per cup. The lite one has 10 per cup. Cran-grape is da bomb lol. Welches has some too that are pretty good. That might help the sweet tooth.

http://www.lowcalorieoceanspray.com/

http://www.oceanspray.com/products/light_juice_drinks.aspx

http://www.oceanspray.com/products/diet_juice_drinks.aspx

[yawnef]

My daughter (AKA The Carb Nazi) watches me like a hawk lol. She informs me of the carb content of everything that enters the house :neutral:

Those little 100 calorie packs (cookies, crackers, etc.) have only one carb per package. Perhaps you could use those as a snack to curb your sweet-tooth? (keep it to just one pack, tho')

Which type of 100 calorie packs are you using? Most of the ones I see have far more than 1 gm of carb. For instance, Nabisco has them with Oreo cookies, chocolate-covered pretzels - you get the idea. Each of those 100 calorie packs has 16 - 17 gms. of carbs.

Coming back to ask a question - are you referring to an individual gram of carb - or a carb portion? I count individually, and couldn't figure out how you were having only 2-3 carbs per meal. You mean 2-3 carb portions - correct?

[CMike11]

My sister says I should try that. Maybe it will help with the weight loss.

I think exercise is key. I went exercising this morning. I did about 40 minutes on the bike. It's a great stress relief. I always feel great afterwards. My Dr. as I mentioned wants me to exercise five days a week. I will try to meet that goal.

I discovered I had Type II Diabetes on the second day of Passover in 2006. (The friend who served Matza Pizza for lunch felt insanely guilty, but it wasn't her fault that the holiday includes eating massive amounts of starch, between the Matza and the wine/grape juice.)

All that matzah can be lethal (not literally). Great surprise for passover. It's really kind of unnerving being diagnosed with it. I found it pretty scary, when my doctor told me I had diabetes.

I don't have any neat suggestions, although it is an interesting fact that when I call the podiatrist for any reason, they get me in THAT DAY, as opposed to later that week.

Quick service is nice.

When visiting the opthomologist, I've discovered that they give diabetes patients VIP treatment. That includes same day service, but it also means that they have a special test to check for retinal damage that usually costs extra. (That means a LOT when you don't have insurance.)

Yeah...I am sorry Harmonious.

God bless, Mike. :hug: And everyone else in the thread.

And to you too Harmonious. At least it wasn't cancer or something that could be imminently life threatening.

At least for me it is controlled with drugs.

[johnrocks]

Don't think of them as 'meals'. You should eat one carb/one protein every 4-5 hours. Otherwise, your liver kicks out glycogen and causes a rise in your blood sugar. Put together some crackers and cheese in some baggies (one baggie for every 4 hours), and take them with you. 20 hours? That's far too long to go not eating right.

Grocery baggie?:dance: I hope me injecting humor isn't frowned upon,it's how I deal with my own problems. It's really a *game changer* isn't it,this diabetes.

[Harmonious]

I think exercise is key. I went exercising this morning. I did about 40 minutes on the bike. It's a great stress relief. I always feel great afterwards. My Dr. as I mentioned wants me to exercise five days a week. I will try to meet that goal.
I'm working on that now. You have actually inspired me to work harder on the exercise. :mrgreen:

All that matzah can be lethal (not literally). Great surprise for passover. It's really kind of unnerving being diagnosed with it. I found it pretty scary, when my doctor told me I had diabetes.Me, too. Actually, that day, I went to the emergency room for an entirely unrelated incident. The Hatzolah guys (it's a Jewish-run EMT service with a superior response time to any other EMT service to date) gave me Matza and grape juice, because that year outside of Israel it was a "three day Yom Tov." It took a while for them to get the other problem taken care of, but when they told me I had diabetes, I freaked out.

Fortunately, I was staying with a family in Queens for the duration of Passover, and they had at least three diabetic members in the household. They knew what to do, and they helped me get used to my machine, and learn useful eating patterns, and all kinds of things.

It isn't easy, but I will tell you that these people work miracles. They helped make my discovery and transition from being a normal person to a diabetic as easy as humanly possible.

Quick service is nice. That it is.


Yeah...I am sorry Harmonious. Not having insurance is not fun.

However, my endocrinologist changed my current diabetes medicine mixture to a total of $12 at Wal-Mart. (Whatever anyone else has to say about Wal-Mart, it is infinitely useful to have medicine that is cost effective.)

And to you too Harmonious. At least it wasn't cancer or something that could be imminently life threatening.Thank you, love. :hug:

I know. And I'm mostly in control. Kind of.

At least for me it is controlled with drugs.

For me, it is mainly controlled with drugs, too. Mainly, being the operative word.

Sometimes my sugar after fasting (well... after sleeping) is in the 160s, but after taking medicine, it is something like 79. Or, if I have a low sugar reading, and take the medicine before a meal, it might stay low, or get lower. Or, sometimes, the medicine is ineffective.

I've spoken to my endocrinologist about this. He says that as long as it gets lower after it is too high, it is a good thing. Even if I can't always figure out how it got so high to start with.

Sometimes it gets high not because of anything I ate or drank, but because of stress. As long as it gets lower with medicine to somewhere vaguely normal, it is "okay." Kind of.

I get concerned because I can have a precipitous drop of over 100 points, but it does get somewhere into the normal range.

:sigh:

[yawnef]

Me, too. Actually, that day, I went to the emergency room for an entirely unrelated incident. The Hatzolah guys (it's a Jewish-run EMT service with a superior response time to any other EMT service to date) gave me Matza and grape juice, because that year outside of Israel it was a "three day Yom Tov." It took a while for them to get the other problem taken care of, but when they told me I had diabetes, I freaked out.


Did you go to Maimonides Medical Center? I read a book about that place a few months ago, and remember the Jewish EMT service being mentioned.

And when is the soon that you will be going to Israel? My cousin, in New Jersey, considered moving back there after she retired, but decide to stay in this country. She lives down in Lakewood.

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

Which type of 100 calorie packs are you using? Most of the ones I see have far more than 1 gm of carb. For instance, Nabisco has them with Oreo cookies, chocolate-covered pretzels - you get the idea. Each of those 100 calorie packs has 16 - 17 gms. of carbs.

Coming back to ask a question - are you referring to an individual gram of carb - or a carb portion? I count individually, and couldn't figure out how you were having only 2-3 carbs per meal. You mean 2-3 carb portions - correct?

Sorry. 1 carb = 15 grams of carbohydrate. Our nutritionist said that anything up to 20 grams can be counted as 1 carb. So each of those packs = 1 carb. When I say 2-3 carbs per meal, I meant I try to keep my total at 30-45 grams or so per meal.

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

Grocery baggie?:dance: I hope me injecting humor isn't frowned upon,it's how I deal with my own problems. It's really a *game changer* isn't it,this diabetes.
Yup. I got caught up in meetings and travel today, and ended up going from about 9am to after 4pm without a meal--- AND I forgot to bring my med with me to my dad's ... end result was that I tested before I ate dinner and was 199 (boo!). I'm certain it was because I'd skipped a meal. I haven't been that high for some time. Once I ate, I checked (not quite) two hours later and I was 109 (and that was still without having taken my med).

[yawnef]

Sorry. 1 carb = 15 grams of carbohydrate. Our nutritionist said that anything up to 20 grams can be counted as 1 carb. So each of those packs = 1 carb. When I say 2-3 carbs per meal, I meant I try to keep my total at 30-45 grams or so per meal.

Okay, I get what you mean. I use the glycemic index and count each carb as 1 carb. I don't do the exchange method. I try to consume as few carbs per day as I can. some days are better than others.

I was beginning to think you followed the Dr. Bernstein plan.

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

Okay, I get what you mean. I use the glycemic index and count each carb as 1 carb. I don't do the exchange method. I try to consume as few carbs per day as I can. some days are better than others.

I was beginning to think you followed the Dr. Bernstein plan.

That's just how I learned it lol. One serving = 15 grams = 1 carb.

[Harmonious]

Did you go to Maimonides Medical Center? I read a book about that place a few months ago, and remember the Jewish EMT service being mentioned.No, I was in Queens. I went to New York Hospital of Queens (it used to be Booth Memorial Hospital).

Hatzolah is in all Five Boroughs, Monsey, and anywhere there is a sizable Orthodox Jewish community.

It was actually started by a Satmar Jew who called 911, but the response time was 20 minutes. He watched his grandmother die because he didn't know what to do, and the people who did didn't come in enough time.

He made it his business to learn everything to be successful in Emergency Life Saving. That is what Hatzolah means: success. Since then, the organization has spread. It is usually peopled by Yeshiva guys from all Orthodox backgrounds.

The organization is decentralized, and first responders come in cars with cherry lights (or actual doctors get a full rack of lights - it's actually cool to see).

They help anyone who calls, and their longest response time is 2 minutes.

And when is the soon that you will be going to Israel? My cousin, in New Jersey, considered moving back there after she retired, but decide to stay in this country. She lives down in Lakewood.It is whenever I get enough money, finish paying off my debts and college loans, and get a job I can do over there.

However, I put in almost all of the paperwork to get the Aliyah process going. However, the representatives of the Ministry of Immigration and the organization that helps make the process easier both suggest that I stay here and get my debts paid off first.

So, that is what I'm doing. It is difficult, when I don't have a steady job, but I do what I can with what I have. It is piecemeal, but it is happening slowly but surely.

Thank you for asking. :mrgreen:

[buflineks]

I I found it pretty scary, when my doctor told me I had diabetes..


I know the feeling. When I was diagnosed and they told me it could lead to Renal failure, that just shook my world. I watched my maternal granfather die of Renal failure. It was more disturbing to me than watching my paternal grandparents die of Cancer.

Of course, I'm pretty lucky, I only have type II and have been controlling it pretty well with only diet and excercise.

My biggest obstecal was changing eating habits. I was 40 eating the same way I did when I was 16.

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

I know the feeling. When I was diagnosed and they told me it could lead to Renal failure, that just shook my world. I watched my maternal granfather die of Renal failure.
That's what I'm worried about. I only have one kidney to start with... and on my first appointment, I was already showing some signs that it wasn't functioning up to par. There's no way of knowing how long I walked around with this before it was diagnosed, but I suspect it was for quite some time.

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

I love allrecipes.com. I was searching for low-carb recipes and found this:

http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/Cottage-Cheese-Roast/Detail.aspx

:eek:

Sounds just gross enough to try :lol:

[CMike11]

I went exercising this morning, and I went two days ago.

My doctor told me he wants me to do it five days a week. I am going to work on meeting that goal.

I feel so much more relaxed after exercising. It is a great stress relief.

[CMike11]

I'm working on that now. You have actually inspired me to work harder on the exercise. :mrgreen:

Exercising is key. It makes you feel better, releases tension, and is good for you overall.

From your other posts it seems that you have a bit of time. So get your tochos up and exercising.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGnZxcS7VKA&feature=related

[yawnef]

No, I was in Queens. I went to New York Hospital of Queens (it used to be Booth Memorial Hospital).

Hatzolah is in all Five Boroughs, Monsey, and anywhere there is a sizable Orthodox Jewish community.

It was actually started by a Satmar Jew who called 911, but the response time was 20 minutes. He watched his grandmother die because he didn't know what to do, and the people who did didn't come in enough time.

He made it his business to learn everything to be successful in Emergency Life Saving. That is what Hatzolah means: success. Since then, the organization has spread. It is usually peopled by Yeshiva guys from all Orthodox backgrounds.

The organization is decentralized, and first responders come in cars with cherry lights (or actual doctors get a full rack of lights - it's actually cool to see).

They help anyone who calls, and their longest response time is 2 minutes.

It is whenever I get enough money, finish paying off my debts and college loans, and get a job I can do over there.

However, I put in almost all of the paperwork to get the Aliyah process going. However, the representatives of the Ministry of Immigration and the organization that helps make the process easier both suggest that I stay here and get my debts paid off first.

So, that is what I'm doing. It is difficult, when I don't have a steady job, but I do what I can with what I have. It is piecemeal, but it is happening slowly but surely.

Thank you for asking. :mrgreen:

Thank you for your response. I find the origins of the Hatzolah fascinating.

You have been to Israel in the past - correct? My cousin went when she was 20 - she told her family and friends she was going to be a nanny. But she really went to live on a kibbutz. She was back and forth over the next 40 years - going to school here, then back there to work. She finally came back here on a permanent basis when her parents became ill.

Also, she converted. She was born Christian. Now she reads the Torah in Hebrew.

[Harmonious]

Thank you for your response. I find the origins of the Hatzolah fascinating.

You have been to Israel in the past - correct? My cousin went when she was 20 - she told her family and friends she was going to be a nanny. But she really went to live on a kibbutz. She was back and forth over the next 40 years - going to school here, then back there to work. She finally came back here on a permanent basis when her parents became ill.

Also, she converted. She was born Christian. Now she reads the Torah in Hebrew.

Very cool. :cool:

[Harmonious]

Exercising is key. It makes you feel better, releases tension, and is good for you overall.

From your other posts it seems that you have a bit of time. So get your tochos up and exercising.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGnZxcS7VKA&feature=related:))

Will do.

[CMike11]

Yanno...I have a little vent.

When I first told some family members (my wife's family :shhh:) I heard stories of who they know who just died from diabetes.

When you get diagnosed with diabetes, you really don't want to hear who just died from it. At least I didn't appreciate it.

[samurai7]

Okay guys, I don't have diabetes, but I do have insulin resistance. As such, my doctor says I may as well eat like I do.

Well, eating like I have diabetes and fixing food for a family that doesn't can be a problem. They want good food (in other words tastes good) and not just "good for you" food. If you get my drift.

Well, I have found some recipes that are so good and my family loves I want them to pass them along, and if ANY of you have recipes you want to pass along, PLEASE DO!

It's a pretty tough economy right now, and I'm sure you are all fixing food at home instead of going out a lot. Good recipes for good food that you can eat and still stay healthy is always a plus.

**Per Serving 236 Calories, 2 g total fat, Cabs 40 grams.


Navy Bean Soup

2 Cans Navy beans
1 Tablespoon Olive Oil
1 Large onion
12 cloves garlic
1 32 oz of chicken broth
1 (or 2 according to your taste) teaspoons of sage
3/4 teaspoon of oregano

In a dutch oven, add 1 Tablespoon olive oil, one chopped onion, and then take 12 cloves of garlic and put them through a garlic press. Brown this until onion tender. Then add the Navy beans, the chicken broth, the sage, and the oregano.

Bring this to a simmer and cook at least 30 minutes, stirring often. Soup's on!

Special instructions: Even though you are already adding olive oil to the dutch oven, spray the dutch oven (before you add the oil) with fat free cooking spray. Olive oil has a tendency to burn and this will help prevent that, and keep any food from sticking to the dutch oven. As for Chicken broth, I use "Kitchen Basics" because my husband is lactose intolerant and regular chicken broth (most of the time) contains lactose. "Kitchen Basics" make a broth that is lactose and gluten free.

The recipe I am using calls for 2 teaspoons of sage. When the soup was done, I thought it was too much. My advice is to start with 1 teaspoon of sage and then add more as desired to taste.

My husband LOVED this soup and he is very finnicky. He went for seconds, which is a seal of approval.

;)

[samurai7]

If you, like me, thought you would never eat pancakes again on diabetes, you have to try these:

Oat Buttermilk Pancakes

1/14 Cup Rolled Oats
3/4 Cup All Purpose Flour
1/2 Cup Whole Wheat Flour
1 Tablespoon baking powder
3 Egg Whites
1 Teaspoon salt (forget this if you are on a salt restricted diet)
2 1/4 Cups Skim Milk
1 Tablespoon lemon juice
2 Tablespoons olive oil
1 teaspoon vanilla

Put together in a bowl the oats, the white flour and the whole wheat flour. Add to this the baking powder and the salt.

In another bowl add the egg whites and vanilla. The original recipe calls for buttermilk, but buttermilk has lots of fat. I use skim milk and then sour it with one tablespoon lemon juice (let stand for five minutes. Add the soured milk to the egg whites and vanilla. Whisk together then add to flour mixture. Stir together until lumpy. Then let that mixture set for 15-30 minutes.

Make like regular pancakes over medium heat. DE-LICIOUS!

**Makes 16 pancakes. 2 pancakes in a serving. 189 calories, 5 grams fat, 28 grams carbs.

I simply put a little sugar free syrup over them. You will be surprised how good they taste.

Eating healthy doesn't mean you have to live without your favorite foods, you just have to get smart about it. ;)

[yawnef]

Yanno...I have a little vent.

When I first told some family members (my wife's family :shhh:) I heard stories of who they know who just died from diabetes.

When you get diagnosed with diabetes, you really don't want to hear who just died from it. At least I didn't appreciate it.

I agree with you. But haven't you noticed whenever someone mentions a particular disease, that someone will know someone who either has it or has died from it?

And when I was in nursing school, whenever we learned about another disease, invariably several of us would suddenly have the symptoms ;)

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

I agree with you. But haven't you noticed whenever someone mentions a particular disease, that someone will know someone who either has it or has died from it?

And when I was in nursing school, whenever we learned about another disease, invariably several of us would suddenly have the symptoms ;)

:lol:

So true. By the time I'd made it through my mental health section (the entire summer, woohoo), I'd diagnosed myself and my entire family --- we were ALL crazy LOL.

As far as being told of people who'd died of diabetic complications... I didn't need that. I had flashbacks of the patients I'd cared for on the diabetic unit. Scared the crap outta me :(

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

Well, I have found some recipes that are so good and my family loves I want them to pass them along, and if ANY of you have recipes you want to pass along, PLEASE DO!

Yes! I'd like to see some good recipes... and thanks for the pancake one. I'll have to try that out :)

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

Ooo. This sounds good :eek:

Banana Spice Cake

9 servings

Ingredients:

1/2 cup butter (1 stick) softened at room temperature

1/2 cup cream cheese (full fat) - softened

1 cup granulated Splenda

1/2 cup Diabetisweet

1 teaspoon Brown SugarTwin *

5 eggs, at room temperature

2 cups almond flour

1 teaspoon baking powder

1 teaspoon cinnamon

1/8 teaspoon ground cloves

2 teaspoons sugar free banana extract

1 teaspoon sugar free vanilla extract



Preparation Method:

1: Cream butter, cream cheese, and sweeteners well. Add eggs - one at a time - beating well after each. Mix almond flour with baking powder and spices. Add egg to mixture a little at a time while beating. Add banana and vanilla extracts. Pour into greased 9"-10" Springform pan (or 9" round cake pan) and bake at 350°F for 50-55 minutes.

2: * Canadian cyclamate-version works best. If you have only American (sacharin) version and find it bitter, substitute 1/2 teapsoon molasses instead. Add 1/2 carb gram per serving additional.

3: (Also excellent with 1/2 cup chopped walnuts or hazelnuts added!)


Carbs:
6.2 grams of carbohydrate per serving.

Wow!

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/pizza/r/deepdishpizza.htm

That one got high marks... only 1.5 grams per serving.

Perhaps there's hope after all :lol:

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/saucesandmarinades/r/nosugarbbqsauce.htm

http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/recipes/Low_Carb_Recipes.htm

[yawnef]

Okay guys, I don't have diabetes, but I do have insulin resistance. As such, my doctor says I may as well eat like I do.

Well, eating like I have diabetes and fixing food for a family that doesn't can be a problem. They want good food (in other words tastes good) and not just "good for you" food. If you get my drift.

Well, I have found some recipes that are so good and my family loves I want them to pass them along, and if ANY of you have recipes you want to pass along, PLEASE DO!

It's a pretty tough economy right now, and I'm sure you are all fixing food at home instead of going out a lot. Good recipes for good food that you can eat and still stay healthy is always a plus.

**Per Serving 236 Calories, 2 g total fat, Cabs 40 grams.


Navy Bean Soup


My husband LOVED this soup and he is very finnicky. He went for seconds, which is a seal of approval.

;)


This one I will definitely try, as we are lovers of all soups. The pancake one - I don't do well with any kind of flour, so tend to stay away from it. Even the whole wheat kind does evil things to my glucose.

[Harmonious]

Yanno...I have a little vent.

When I first told some family members (my wife's family :shhh:) I heard stories of who they know who just died from diabetes.

When you get diagnosed with diabetes, you really don't want to hear who just died from it. At least I didn't appreciate it.:nods:

I guess that I was blessed with the best of all possible situations, considering that I was diagnosed with diabetes.

The mother of three young children has been a teacher for many years, and her students get used to her (each semester) sometimes needing to eat or drink, or sometimes needing to take a shot in the middle of class. It is not a big deal to her, and her students learn that it's not a big deal in general. (Actually, they are far more intrigued with the fact that she covers her hair, as an Orthodox Jewish married woman. The rumors spread far and wide about WHY she does it, and sometimes she spreads weird rumors to see what people are willing to believe.)

In exactly one week, it was pointed out to me how many people in the community in Queens I lived in actually have diabetes, and all kinds of people were willing to give me useful advice. (And all kinds of people handed me packages and packages of lancets. It will be years before I ever have to go and buy lancets, based on how many were given to me.)

My first experience was to see how many people are living with diabetes and how they manage it. Like here, but with faces, it was more of a "we are the community, and we will help you to deal with this" situation.

My doctors (and the books people gave me to help learn stuff about diabetes) explained a lot of worst-case scenarios, but the general idea is that IF you don't take care of yourself, and IF you ignore your medicine, and everything... Well, DON'T ignore all the stuff they tell you and do what you are supposed to, and everything is more or less manageable. In theory.

I'm sorry that people have been giving all the negative stories. :hug:

I wish to send you all the positive emotions that I've been given about such things. :sends:

[yawnef]

(And all kinds of people handed me packages and packages of lancets. It will be years before I ever have to go and buy lancets, based on how many were given to me.)



Speaking of lancets - how often do any on you change them? I started out changing every single time I tested. That got old fast. Now I change maybe once a week, sometimes longer than that.

Like Harmonious, I have enough to last me the rest of my life.

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

Speaking of lancets - how often do any on you change them? I started out changing every single time I tested. That got old fast. Now I change maybe once a week, sometimes longer than that.

Like Harmonious, I have enough to last me the rest of my life.

It really doesn't make sense to me to change them after each use. The finer gauge ones do get dull/bent after a few uses (ouch! lol).

[johnrocks]

My Diabetes is not stable, one time I'll check it and it's 120,then the next it'll be 92 and then it will be 263(blood sugar).

[yawnef]

My Diabetes is not stable, one time I'll check it and it's 120,then the next it'll be 92 and then it will be 263(blood sugar).

Are you on any medication? How often do you see your MD? Do you exercise?

These numbers that you list - were they each done at the same time of day, i.e. when you get up in the morning, before or after meals? What about your A1c - is that all over the place, also?

[johnrocks]

Are you on any medication? How often do you see your MD? Do you exercise?

These numbers that you list - were they each done at the same time of day, i.e. when you get up in the morning, before or after meals? What about your A1c - is that all over the place, also?

I take Diabinese, it's a 250 mg. tablet,I break it in half and take a half before breakfast and a half before dinner, I am obese and honestly don't get hardly any exercise. What's A1c:eek:

[yawnef]

I take Diabinese, it's a 250 mg. tablet,I break it in half and take a half before breakfast and a half before dinner, I am obese and honestly don't get hardly any exercise. What's A1c:eek:

An A1C (also known as glycated hemoglobin or HbA1c) test gives you a picture of your average blood glucose control for the past 2 to 3 months. The results give you a good idea of how well your diabetes treatment plan is working.

http://www.diabetes.org/type-1-diabetes/a1c-test.jsp is a link that tells you all you need to know about the test. You should be having it at least every 6 months.

Your MD - is s/he Family Practice, Internist, G.P, or Endocrinologist? How often do you see him/her? If you are that erratic, you should be seeing an MD every couple of months. And you definitely need to see a nutritionist about a weight-loss diet - and you need to start exercising.

End of lecture ;)

[Harmonious]

Speaking of lancets - how often do any on you change them? I started out changing every single time I tested. That got old fast. Now I change maybe once a week, sometimes longer than that.

Like Harmonious, I have enough to last me the rest of my life.
I don't have a set time, but I like to change them at least every two weeks (if I remember).

[johnrocks]

An A1C (also known as glycated hemoglobin or HbA1c) test gives you a picture of your average blood glucose control for the past 2 to 3 months. The results give you a good idea of how well your diabetes treatment plan is working.

http://www.diabetes.org/type-1-diabetes/a1c-test.jsp is a link that tells you all you need to know about the test. You should be having it at least every 6 months.

Your MD - is s/he Family Practice, Internist, G.P, or Endocrinologist? How often do you see him/her? If you are that erratic, you should be seeing an MD every couple of months. And you definitely need to see a nutritionist about a weight-loss diet - and you need to start exercising.

End of lecture ;)

Oh,I took that,it was high, it was 9.6% I think on the paper and it supposed to be around 6(Or something like that). I went last Monday and will be going again in 30 days from that date. My Doctor is a Family Practice.

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

Oh,I took that,it was high, it was 9.6% I think on the paper and it supposed to be around 6(Or something like that). I went last Monday and will be going again in 30 days from that date. My Doctor is a Family Practice.

You were just diagnosed and put on meds, right?

It's going to take some time to stabilize, I'm sure. Be sure to take all the readings to your doc (and make comments regarding the time of day, if you've eaten, what you've eaten, if you're ill or stressed, etc.). Have you had your diabetic ed yet?

[kenpoman]

Oh,I took that,it was high, it was 9.6% I think on the paper and it supposed to be around 6(Or something like that). I went last Monday and will be going again in 30 days from that date. My Doctor is a Family Practice.

a "healthy" A1C is below six.
6.0-6.5 is pre diabetic.

once you get past 6.5 ....
mine ran at 6.3 last check. when I got diagnosed I was 7.4.

A1C is more important overall than your glucose readings (not that
sugar readings aren't important). the A1C indicates how your body
is handling sugars overall. sugar readings are a snapshot in time, and
any number of things can effect it.

keep in mind you didn't get over 9 overnight. don't have unreal
expectations on how fast it'll come down. but if you eat right and
lose even 10 lbs you'll see results.

a lot of folks are endocrinologist nazis. myself, if you have a good
GP and you are in or gaining control, using a GP for primary care
is just fine.

[kenpoman]

a note about diabetic educators:

worth their weight in gold, especially the dieticians.
listen to them.

[kwc57]

Speaking of lancets - how often do any on you change them? I started out changing every single time I tested. That got old fast. Now I change maybe once a week, sometimes longer than that.

Like Harmonious, I have enough to last me the rest of my life.

I test 4 to 6 times a day and I couldn't tell you the last time I changed my lancet. Sometme last year more than likely.

[kwc57]

I wear a Medtronic Minimed insulin pump. My insurance company finally approved the contineous glucose monitoring system and I just got trained on it today. I'm really looking forward to this helping me keep tighter control with my outdoor activities and exercise. I'll post more as I gain experience with it.

[buflineks]

I test 4 to 6 times a day and I couldn't tell you the last time I changed my lancet. Sometme last year more than likely.

I change mine when they start to get dull.
Usually about once a week.

[CMike11]

I have exercised M-Wed. I took my blood this morning and it was 92.

I think Emmanuel may actually be right about something:))

Perhaps before exercising I'll have some cheese.

I am really used to not eating in the morning before I exercise. However, 92 is pretty low and concerns me.

That said, the exercising is really making me feel better. I notice on the bike that my pulse level has gone down, which means it's doing good for my heart.

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

I have exercised M-Wed. I took my blood this morning and it was 92.

I think Emmanuel may actually be right about something:))

Perhaps before exercising I'll have some cheese.

I am really used to not eating in the morning before I exercise. However, 92 is pretty low and concerns me.

That said, the exercising is really making me feel better. I notice on the bike that my pulse level has gone down, which means it's doing good for my heart.

Cool :)

Try an ounce of cheese and about 4-6 crackers. That will give you one carb and protein to sustain yourself during exercise.

92 is a normal blood sugar reading (normal fasting is 70-100). Of course you don't want it to go below 70, so that's why you should eat before and have something on hand while you exercise just in case you get symptomatic.

The DE told us she did an experiment by exercising without eating beforehand (she isn't diabetic, btw) and her blood sugar dropped below normal range. If it can happen to a 'regular' person it's certainly a risk for those of us on medication that actively reduces our blood sugar.

ETA: I think she said that exercise alone (a regular 30 minute routine) can lower sugar as much as 20 points (in other words, in addition to whatever medication effects there are).

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

You might want to try South Beach Diet high protein bars. They have only one carb (15 grams) and the protein... and they taste really good. Plus it wouldn't fill you up before you exercise.

http://www.ihealthtree.com/south-beach-diet.html

Cinnamon raisin and maple nut are good... chocolate is kinda nasty (the taste is ok, the texture is blech IMO).

[kenpoman]

do not, do not, do NOT
underestimate the value of breakfast.
even if its something as simple a thing of cashews and a bit of cheese.

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

do not, do not, do NOT
underestimate the value of breakfast.
even if its something as simple a thing of cashews and a bit of cheese.
I've found that skipping meals (or going too long between meals/snacks) causes my sugar to rise. A lot. Even if I'm eating carbs (like the spaghetti we had the other night), as long as I'm eating something every 4-5 hours my sugar will go down.

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

I thought I'd posted this but I guess not...

Last week I had meetings to go to and then I was supposed to go to my Dad's (a couple of hours away). The meeting lasted forever and I was running late, so I figured I'd just wait 'til I got there to eat. By the time I made it to Dad's, I'd gone all day without eating. My sugar was really high, higher than it's been since the time I was diagnosed. To make matters worse, my medication was sitting on the table at home. :(

Daughter had fixed spaghetti, and although I knew it was high carb, I ate it anyway figuring I better get something in me.

2 hours later I'd dropped 100 points to just slightly above normal (109). I ate a snack about 4 hours later and checked again after, and I was sitting right at 100. All without taking my med.

[CMike11]

I just checked my blood after lunch it was 72.

It's all this exercising.

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

I just checked my blood after lunch it was 72.

It's all this exercising.

Excellent :clap:

Watch that it doesn't drop lower and keep a fast-acting carb at hand.

[CMike11]

Thanks, I am afraid it's getting too low.

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

Thanks, I am afraid it's getting too low.
You're on meds now that actively reduce your blood sugar, as opposed to metformin. It IS something you need to watch carefully. Make sure you're eating a carb and a protein every 4 hours. Eat 3-4 carb servings per meal.

You might want to let your doc know of your readings. If they're bordering on going too low, especially since you've amped up your activity level, he may want to make some dosage adjustments, or have you take your readings at specific times during the day and/or night.

[CMike11]

I am taking two drugs; actos and glyburide.

Maybe I'll experiment and not take the actos and monitor my readings with just the glyburide.

[RayMan]

Thanks, I am afraid it's getting too low.

Sounds a little low to me.


Like I should talk. I haven't checked mine in weeks. Should do it when I wake up tomorrow.

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

I am taking two drugs; actos and glyburide.

Maybe I'll experiment and not take the actos and monitor my readings with just the glyburide.

Ack. Don't adjust your meds without your doc's ok...

Give him a call in the morning.

[CMike11]

Why not?

[RayMan]

I test 4 to 6 times a day and I couldn't tell you the last time I changed my lancet. Sometme last year more than likely.

You know, it never occurred to me to just leave the lancet in the thingie. I have been using a new one every time. I may save a little money here.

[RayMan]

Why not?

Really.

If he/she tells you 'don't do that' is it gonna stop you? :dance:

Glad I saw your other post on the index. I really should pull the meter out and check mine. I have just been feeling so much better since I went back to no-carb a couple months ago.

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

Why not?

:neutral:

[jwil59]

I am praying for you all

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

I am praying for you all

Thank you hun. You and yours remain in my prayers every day. :hug:

[Harmonious]

I just wanted you to know, Mike...

Since some time last week, when I saw you discussing what you were doing to stabilize your sugars, I was inspired to take long walks, or participate in other activity.

As I've said, I've had diabetes since 2006, but this is the first time in years that I've actually been consistent in my exercise regimen. You were the inspiration for that.

Thank you very much. God should always bless you, but He should bless you extra just for that!

:hug:

[CMike11]

I just wanted you to know, Mike...

Since some time last week, when I saw you discussing what you were doing to stabilize your sugars, I was inspired to take long walks, or participate in other activity.

As I've said, I've had diabetes since 2006, but this is the first time in years that I've actually been consistent in my exercise regimen. You were the inspiration for that.

Thank you very much. God should always bless you, but He should bless you extra just for that!

:hug:

Thank you Harmonious. You made my day.

Here is revele again

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGnZxcS7VKA

Keep up the great work Harmonious!

Actually my father died about two years ago. Revele kind of brings memories for me. When I was a kids he used to sing it to me to wake me up in the morning.

[CMike11]

I have exercised four days this week so far. I am going back on Sunday to do my five days.

I am doing 40 minutes on the bike.

My sugar level was 116 this morning. Actually this is going to sound weird but I am glad it's up. I was afraid it was getting too low.

I had a pizza last night for dinner that probably did it.

I haven't had a pizza in about four months since I was diagnosed with diabetes.

[RayMan]

Good for you Mike! I have found that controlling the carbs, cutting out pizzas and what not has done more good for me than any meds I have taken. Keep it up. That number sounds better to me than the low 70's number you posted the other day.

[CMike11]

Thank you Ray.

You know what really helps my sugar level? Fish.

I find that when I have seafood for dinner my sugar level goes way down.

[RayMan]

Thank you Ray.

You know what really helps my sugar level? Fish.

I find that when I have seafood for dinner my sugar level goes way down.

I will have to see how that works for me. I love picking up a salmon or trout fillet about once a week and grilling it up in a pouch, but I haven't thought about testing to see how that compares with my usual beef or chicken meal. Thanks Mike.

I appreciate this thread because we can all share things that help. Everyone's metabolism is different but helpful thoughts that might not occur to me can occur to you and vice versa.

Diabetes is everybody's enemy and we need all the ammo we can get to fight it. I especially look for anything I can do to improve my help diet-wise because I don't like taking meds that may have a bad effect on my health in some other area.

[CMike11]

I use a good recipe for Salmon. I got it from Giadi's book from the food network.

Start off putting salt and pepper and put in the broiler for a few minutes.

The sauce is

1 tbs dijon mustard

1tbs whole grain mustard

1 tbs olive oil

two cloves garlic

1 tbs white wine.

Put it on the fish, and continue broiling.

Very yummy.

It makes my sugar level go down.

I am not crazy about taking meds either, but it's better than the consequences of not taking them.

[RayMan]

That sounds very tasty and pretty much low carb. You're right about the med of course, I just want to do as much as possible with my diet to cut down the need for meds.

[CMike11]

That sounds very tasty and pretty much low carb. You're right about the med of course, I just want to do as much as possible with my diet to cut down the need for meds.

I really wanted to exercise five days this week. I have done four, and I was going to do tomorrow.

But...I haven't had any day to sleep in, and I need my beauty sleep.

What do you think should I go tomorrow morning or sleep in? If I exercise I do it in the morning.

[CMike11]

I just took my blood sugar -- 78

[RayMan]

I really wanted to exercise five days this week. I have done four, and I was going to do tomorrow.

But...I haven't had any day to sleep in, and I need my beauty sleep.

What do you think should I go tomorrow morning or sleep in? If I exercise I do it in the morning.


Gotta go with how you feel at the time. It can be difficult to find a balance. Sometimes we need to push ourselves others time we need to rest.

I had planned to get a lot done in the vegetable garden today but it was really hot so I just settled for watering and then sitting under the patio umbrella reading for several hours.

Tomatoes are finally getting ripe. Picked and sliced a couple for dinner with Mrs Ray a few minutes ago. Yummy.

[CMike11]

Thanks Ray, I ended up sleeping in.

I'll be back to exercising tomorrow. It really is having a very signficant effect on my sugar levels.

[Yasuo]

Update on me and mine.

Had a scary week thanks to some mail I shouldn't have gotten. For a time, thought my application for assistance from Maryview was in trouble. Turned out to be nothing. Felt a little foolish, but also relieved.

I'm finally signed up with the Maryview Foundation and have my first doctor's appointment there on Monday.

Clot in my lung is behaving for now. Been walking to 7-11 and back, when the weather's decent, and no problems to be seen.

Blood Sugar continues to average about 120. I'm starting to wonder if that might be normal for me.

Question: Can diabetes cause muscle problems? I ask because the muscle just beneath my left knee has become sore. Use makes it worse, rest causes it to settle down. Because of my diabetes, I've also been on a low-sodium diet. Could my salt be too low, causing acid build up in my muscles? Or is it something unrelated?

Thanks In Advance.

Yasuo

[johnrocks]

I don't know but I just spent 4 days in the hospital, high blood pressure,high cholesterol,oversized heart,diabetes and now I'm taking a bunch of meds and my left arm right at my rotator cuff is sore down to about halfway to my elbow.

I hate taking meds, downright scared to but what can I do besides do what the Doctor says and pray.

[kenpoman]

Update on me and mine.

Had a scary week thanks to some mail I shouldn't have gotten. For a time, thought my application for assistance from Maryview was in trouble. Turned out to be nothing. Felt a little foolish, but also relieved.

I'm finally signed up with the Maryview Foundation and have my first doctor's appointment there on Monday.

Clot in my lung is behaving for now. Been walking to 7-11 and back, when the weather's decent, and no problems to be seen.

Blood Sugar continues to average about 120. I'm starting to wonder if that might be normal for me.

Question: Can diabetes cause muscle problems? I ask because the muscle just beneath my left knee has become sore. Use makes it worse, rest causes it to settle down. Because of my diabetes, I've also been on a low-sodium diet. Could my salt be too low, causing acid build up in my muscles? Or is it something unrelated?

Thanks In Advance.

Yasuo

sugars hitting about 120 are not too bad.
in a perfect world they'd be 10 points lower, but don't worry about it.

diabetes can cause some effects on the muscles, but mostly
indirectly. like so many other things diabetes is the contributor,
but not the cause. diabetes loves to push conditions over the
edge from annoying to problems.

as you lose weight, your body looks for anything to eat. it
is happy to settle on itself. the regulated carb diets we live on
will cause your body to want a "snack" as you lose weight.
if that's the case, this will settle down as your body adjusts.

odds are whatever is going on with your knee is more likely
due to your knee messing with you solo. its the weak link in
the human anatomy - especially for women. knees tend to
wear out.

if you've been inactive for awhile, your body is gonna
complain while you get it back up and running.

its very probably not your low sodium diet. the human body
doesn't need that much salt (as a rule) and what occurs
naturally in food is usually more than enough.

try this: keep a notebook on when it hurts and what you
did -or didn't- do. and cross reference your sugars, just to
be safe. see what it tells you.

[Yasuo]

Johnrocks,... wow. Just when I think that I have it bad.

Hang in there.

Ken, thanks for the feedback.

What you said about diabetes being a problem aggravator sounds on the mark where I'm concerned. I should find out for sure come Monday.

Thanks Again.

Yasuo

[jwil59]

This sticky is proving itself to be a great addition to our little club here.

My prayers for all you folks.