Cutler wants to be traded from Broncos

[AngelO'Death]

A source close to the situation confirmed the Broncos were trying to acquire quarterback Matt Cassel from the New England Patriots by dangling Cutler, their Pro Bowl quarterback.

The trade talk infuriated Cutler, who now wants to leave the Broncos.

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/afcwest/0-3-1666/Spurned-Cutler-wants-to-be-traded.html

This Cassel trade keeps getting better and better!

[Oddball]

Oh, God....Please send him to the Vikings!! :pray:

[AngelO'Death]

Maybe the Chiefs could trade Tyler Thigpin for say a Jarred Allen? just kidding.

I didn't get enough use out of my 69 jersey. :(

[Oddball]

Anything as long as Tavarus Jackson isn't taking snaps next year.

I'd even settle for McNabb.

[ImNewHere]

Anything as long as Tavarus Jackson isn't taking snaps next year.

I'd even settle for McNabb.

If the Vikings get Cutler, they're going to be one of the top two or three teams in the NFC.

[AngelO'Death]

Anything as long as Tavarus Jackson isn't taking snaps next year.

I'd even settle for McNabb.

That says alot. :))

[WhiteHatBobby]

Cutler has never lead a team in college or pros into postseason. Keep that in mind.

[newyorkjetsfan]

The Broncos announced that Cutler wanted to be traded.

First, I think it would be a mistake for the Broncos to trade him. I don't know why they want to do.

If they would trade, I hope that they would ship him to the Jets. At least, they have a better shot of going to the Super Bowl than the Broncos, providing that New York gets a wide receiver.

[Dr. Funkenstein]

This is not the first time Cutler has demanded a trade

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/peter_king/03/01/freeagency/index.html (towards the bottom of the page).

When his o-coordinator left, he requested a trade. Then he gets ****ed when they try to find someone to trade him to ( :(( :(( :(( )...now he's demanding the trade again?

I hope they send him to Detroit.

[Dr. Funkenstein]

If the Vikings get Cutler, they're going to be one of the top two or three teams in the NFC.

He's 17-20 as a starter in the NFL. He's got a TD/INT ratio of 1.45 in a league where it's reasonable to expect a "top-flite" starter to be AT LEAST 2-1 (for all the flak McNabb's gotten, his is 2.16).

So he's a minor improvement over Jackson (ratio= 1.11), but Jackson was 8-4 as a starter last year, while Cutler presided over a 4-game collapse that kept his team out of the playoffs.

[dannyg79]

He's 17-20 as a starter in the NFL. He's got a TD/INT ratio of 1.45 in a league where it's reasonable to expect a "top-flite" starter to be AT LEAST 2-1 (for all the flak McNabb's gotten, his is 2.16).

So he's a minor improvement over Jackson (ratio= 1.11), but Jackson was 8-4 as a starter last year, while Cutler presided over a 4-game collapse that kept his team out of the playoffs.

Cutler also had a terrible defense and a RB group that was so injured they had to resort to a backup FB playing tailback. No QB in the league, other than maybe Warner and Manning, had to do more than Jay Cutler did to keep his team competitive, and being that it was only his 3rd season he obviously struggled with that at times. But he is miles ahead of Jackson.

[Oddball]

He's 17-20 as a starter in the NFL. He's got a TD/INT ratio of 1.45 in a league where it's reasonable to expect a "top-flite" starter to be AT LEAST 2-1 (for all the flak McNabb's gotten, his is 2.16).

So he's a minor improvement over Jackson (ratio= 1.11), but Jackson was 8-4 as a starter last year, while Cutler presided over a 4-game collapse that kept his team out of the playoffs.
Dude, forget all the numbers...You can prove anything you want with stateistics.

Take it from someone who watches the Vikings....Tavarus Jackson sucks on toast.

[Marleysdaddy]

He's 17-20 as a starter in the NFL. He's got a TD/INT ratio of 1.45 in a league where it's reasonable to expect a "top-flite" starter to be AT LEAST 2-1 (for all the flak McNabb's gotten, his is 2.16).

So he's a minor improvement over Jackson (ratio= 1.11), but Jackson was 8-4 as a starter last year, while Cutler presided over a 4-game collapse that kept his team out of the playoffs.

I have to agree with ImNewHere - all the Vikings need to be a dominant team is somebody who is even an average QB...hell, Rosenfels may be good enough...Cutler would DEFINITELY be good enough...

I hope it happens...I'd love to see Cutler out of the AFC West

[Vic Daring]

When did NFL quarterbacks all get to be such 13-year-old girls?

Attention-demanding drama queens.

[Dr. Funkenstein]

Dude, forget all the numbers...You can prove anything you want with stateistics.

Take it from someone who watches the Vikings....Tavarus Jackson sucks on toast.

I've watched the Vikings, and agree that Jackson isn't good.

I'm just saying that Cutler is not that much of an upgrade. He's got a huge arm and can make any throw...the problem is that he knows it and will force balls into situations he should know not to get into.

[Dr. Funkenstein]

Cutler also had a terrible defense and a RB group that was so injured they had to resort to a backup FB playing tailback. No QB in the league, other than maybe Warner and Manning, had to do more than Jay Cutler did to keep his team competitive, and being that it was only his 3rd season he obviously struggled with that at times. But he is miles ahead of Jackson.

There is something to be said for success breeding success. Jay Cutler has won 28 games over the last seven years (between Vanderbilt and Denver). Now I'm not saying that he can't be good...I'm just saying that he's WILDLY overrated, makes TERRIBLE decisions at the worst possible times, and is way too much of a diva compared to the amount of success he's had in the league.

[Oddball]

I've watched the Vikings, and agree that Jackson isn't good.

I'm just saying that Cutler is not that much of an upgrade. He's got a huge arm and can make any throw...the problem is that he knows it and will force balls into situations he should know not to get into.So did a guy named Elway, when he was younger.....How'd he work out anyways??

[Gaetano "Tommy" Lucchese]

I've watched the Vikings, and agree that Jackson isn't good.

I'm just saying that Cutler is not that much of an upgrade. He's got a huge arm and can make any throw...the problem is that he knows it and will force balls into situations he should know not to get into.

Sounds like a certain Pittsburgh quarterback who's won two Super Bowls in the last four years.

[Marleysdaddy]

I've watched the Vikings, and agree that Jackson isn't good.

I'm just saying that Cutler is not that much of an upgrade. He's got a huge arm and can make any throw...the problem is that he knows it and will force balls into situations he should know not to get into.

Oh yeah...no doubt about it, he's Favre 2.0

I think that is why his new coach wanted Cassel...not a huge arm, but won't lose many games for you.

[dannyg79]

There is something to be said for success breeding success. Jay Cutler has won 28 games over the last seven years (between Vanderbilt and Denver). Now I'm not saying that he can't be good...I'm just saying that he's WILDLY overrated, makes TERRIBLE decisions at the worst possible times, and is way too much of a diva compared to the amount of success he's had in the league.

Vanderbilt is an SEC program that doesnt play by SEC rules. Most SEC schools will do whatever it takes to get a player to that school, where as Vandy makes all their athletes qualify academically for the school just like every other student. Because of that, they are never going to have a good football team and their talent level is no where near that of Florida, LSU, etc etc. There is only so much a QB can do when his team is over matched in every other aspect of the game.

He might be a bit immature, I dont disagree with you on that, and he also has a Favre quality about him where he trusts his arm too much and makes some stupid throws. But, there was really no reason Denver should have been an 8-8 team last year considering how bad their defense was and how many injuries they had to there RBs. I understand they collapsed at the end of the year, but I think Cutler was the principle reason they were a playoff contender at all.

[Marleysdaddy]

Sounds like a certain Pittsburgh quarterback who's won two Super Bowls in the last four years.

Except Denver has neither the running game nor the defense the Steelers have...If Rothlisberger throws a pick on his side of the 50, the defense can help him out.

If Cutler throws a pick on his side of the 50, you might as well put 6 points on the board for the other team and have them line up to kick an extra point :D

[Gaetano "Tommy" Lucchese]

He's 17-20 as a starter in the NFL. He's got a TD/INT ratio of 1.45 in a league where it's reasonable to expect a "top-flite" starter to be AT LEAST 2-1 (for all the flak McNabb's gotten, his is 2.16).

So he's a minor improvement over Jackson (ratio= 1.11), but Jackson was 8-4 as a starter last year, while Cutler presided over a 4-game collapse that kept his team out of the playoffs.

How were the stats of the QB that won the Super Bowl this year?;)

[Gaetano "Tommy" Lucchese]

Except Denver has neither the running game nor the defense the Steelers have...If Rothlisberger throws a pick on his side of the 50, the defense can help him out.

If Cutler throws a pick on his side of the 50, you might as well put 6 points on the board for the other team and have them line up to kick an extra point :D

The defense I'll grant you, but the running game sucked this year. We were the worst in the league on 3rd-and-1.

[Dr. Funkenstein]

how were the stats of the qb that won the super bowl this year?;)

15-4

[Beccaria]

Cutler impressed me until the NE game on Monday night. Maybe it was just how well the Patriots played, but Cutler looked terrible that night.

[Dr. Funkenstein]

He's 17-20 as a starter in the NFL. He's got a TD/INT ratio of 1.45 in a league where it's reasonable to expect a "top-flite" starter to be AT LEAST 2-1 (for all the flak McNabb's gotten, his is 2.16).

So he's a minor improvement over Jackson (ratio= 1.11), but Jackson was 8-4 as a starter last year, while Cutler presided over a 4-game collapse that kept his team out of the playoffs.
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[55SFSDefender]

bump...

Jay will be fine once he gets the following:


A new o-line
At least two real receivers
A running back who can make the first guy miss
An offensive coordinator who knows what he's doing
A head coach with a fire under his ass
A defense that can create more 3 and outs
Basically this BEARS fan believes Jay will be fine after about 4 years of rebuilding. It make my a sad sad panda.

[dannyg79]

Cutler hasnt been good, but he certainly doesnt get much help either. In saying that, I am not sure he has been as bad as the media makes him out to be either. He has thrown 20 ints, which is terrible, but 9 of those 20 INTs came in 2 games, which means he has thrown 11 INTs in the other 9. Obviously still not great, but not nearly as bad the 20 INTs in 11 games suggests. I dont think the fact he has the worst running team in the league helps. Again, not making excuses for Cutler, and I do think he will always have that Favre quality about him where he will have some stupid INTs, but the Bears offense is a mess and it goes far beyond Cutler.

[VCaddy05]

Jay will be fine once he gets the following:


A new o-line
At least two real receivers
A running back who can make the first guy miss
An offensive coordinator who knows what he's doing
A head coach with a fire under his ass
A defense that can create more 3 and outs
Basically this BEARS fan believes Jay will be fine after about 4 years of rebuilding. It make my a sad sad panda.

With that steller set up forrest gump would be fine as a qb in the NFL. So basically if he played for the Patriots, or Chargers, or Vikings, he would be great.

[VCaddy05]

Cutler hasnt been good, but he certainly doesnt get much help either. In saying that, I am not sure he has been as bad as the media makes him out to be either. He has thrown 20 ints, which is terrible, but 9 of those 20 INTs came in 2 games, which means he has thrown 11 INTs in the other 9. Obviously still not great, but not nearly as bad the 20 INTs in 11 games suggests. I dont think the fact he has the worse running team in the league helps. Again, not making excuses for Cutler, and I do think he will always have that Favre quality about him where he will have some stupid INTs, but the Bears offense is a mess and it goes far beyond Cutler.

yea some of his int's were really not even his fault, but he is playing terrible ball. I have never been a Cutler fan at all though so im biased!

[55SFSDefender]

With that steller set up forrest gump would be fine as a qb in the NFL. So basically if he played for the Patriots, or Chargers, or Vikings, he would be great.

More of a tongue in cheek comment about how bad my Bears look actually...

[dannyg79]

Also keep in mind. Peyton Manning threw 58 INTs in his first 48 starts, and in his 4th season in the league threw 23 INTs. At this point Cutler has started 48 games, and has thrown 57 INTs, including 20 thus far this year, which is his 4th season in the league.
And no, I am not suggesting Cutler will be the next Peyton Manning. I am suggesting that people expect too much out of QBs too soon. It still wont surprise me in the least if Cutler develops into a pro bowl type QB once the Bears get their offense figured out.

[Dr. Funkenstein]

Also keep in mind. Peyton Manning threw 58 INTs in his first 48 starts, and in his 4th season in the league threw 23 INTs. At this point Cutler has started 48 games, and has thrown 57 INTs, including 20 thus far this year, which is his 4th season in the league.
And no, I am not suggesting Cutler will be the next Peyton Manning. I am suggesting that people expect too much out of QBs too soon. It still wont surprise me in the least if Cutler develops into a pro bowl type QB once the Bears get their offense figured out.
The Bears are years away from being seriously competitive at this point.

They don't have a #2 receiver, much less a #1. Their best offensive weapon is their kick returner. Forte doesn't look the same as last year, and their line is worse than it was last season too. The defense doesn't look good enough to help either.

Add to that the fact that they don't have a 1st or 2nd round pick next year, or a 1st-rounder in '11, and it doesn't look good for them, unless they REALLY score in the later rounds.

[dannyg79]

The Bears are years away from being seriously competitive at this point.

They don't have a #2 receiver, much less a #1. Their best offensive weapon is their kick returner. Forte doesn't look the same as last year, and their line is worse than it was last season too. The defense doesn't look good enough to help either.

Add to that the fact that they don't have a 1st or 2nd round pick next year, or a 1st-rounder in '11, and it doesn't look good for them, unless they REALLY score in the later rounds.

If they can get the o-line figured out, I think they would be fine. Forte isnt nearly as good as last year, but I have to think that is the fault of the o-line. Olson is a nice receiving TE, and Bennett and Knox might not be #1 WRs, but I still think they are serviceable. ANd Devin Hester has a shot for a 1,000 yard season, and he has only played WR for a few years, so I would imagine he will continue to get better. If you have a solid running game and solid o-line, you can win without having a true #1 WR. They might be a few years from seriously contending, but I think they could get the offense going by just adding a few quality lineman and letting some of their guys develop. The offense is extremely young at the skill positions, keep that in mind.

[Tulsa]

The Browns are years away from being seriously competitive at this point.

They don't have a #2 receiver, much less a #1. Their best offensive weapon is their kick returner. Lewis doesn't look the same as last year, and their line is worse than it was last season too. The defense doesn't look good enough to help either.

Add to that the fact that they don't have a 1st or 2nd round pick next year, or a 1st-rounder in '11, and it doesn't look good for them, unless they REALLY score in the later rounds.

Modified slightly but amazing how well it fits...

[Dr. Funkenstein]

Modified slightly but amazing how well it fits...
The Browns don't have a #3 or a #4 receiver either, and their defense is light years behind Chicago's.

[Tulsa]

No reason to get all gloom and doom on me.

[Joeybear23]

Chicago-Denver QB situation has shown that receivers make a HUGE difference in an offense.

Orton didn't do well in Chicago
Cutler is not doing so well in Chicago.

If Chicago had another year of experience behind Knox, and a clone of him, this season would be a lot less lopsided.