Pet Chimp attacks/eats house guest

[Gabby]

"He bit both of her hands off and the cop told me he just kept eating her. It's terrible," said Lynne Mecca, a friend of the victim.

"A woman continues to fight for her life Tuesday morning following a bizarre attack by a pet chimpanzee"

http://wcbstv.com/breakingnewsalerts/orangutan.attack.stamford.2.936381.html

What's wrong with people that they keep a chimp as a house pet? Once they it their teen years they become very dangerous towards humans.

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[FidelisAdMortem]

Yes this was breaking news last night while I was watching the news during dinner. Cops shot and killed the animal. Horrific, this attack.

[RickRhetoric]

"He bit both of her hands off and the cop told me he just kept eating her. It's terrible," said Lynne Mecca, a friend of the victim.

"A woman continues to fight for her life Tuesday morning following a bizarre attack by a pet chimpanzee"

http://wcbstv.com/breakingnewsalerts/orangutan.attack.stamford.2.936381.html

What's wrong with people that they keep a chimp as a house pet? Once they it their teen years they become very dangerous towards humans.

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:naughty::naughty::naughty:

[Buffalo]

Leave wild animals in the wild. We have used centuries of selective breeding to produce domesticated pets. I have a hard time sympathizing with anyone who brings a wild animal into their home and is attacked by said animal. I understand the woman who was attacked was not the owner, but it is like going into a house were the homeowner is randomly firing off their 12 gauge.

[mrclean]

Wild animals are callled wild for a reason.

[jeepers]

"He bit both of her hands off and the cop told me he just kept eating her. It's terrible," said Lynne Mecca, a friend of the victim.


That's horrible and gross. That poor woman!

Animals are animals and people are people. When you confuse the two, it's a problem because the animal is not confused, only it's owner.

Stop trying to make wild animals pets! :evil:

[Pudge]

You want to bring the wild kingdom into your house, don't be surprised if you find yourself on the menu.

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

Ironically, CBS 2 HD has also learned that the same chimpanzee escaped from his owners' SUV back in 2003 and caused havoc in downtown Stamford before police put down the then-175-pound animal with a tranquilizer gun.

So why wasn't he killed back then?

I hope the owner is charged.

[FidelisAdMortem]

So why wasn't he killed back then?

I hope the owner is charged.

Circumstances werent the same. Two different situations that warranted two different responses based on several factors at the time of the incidents.

No offense EG but responses like yours annoy the heck outta me. You cant generalize an officers response on two separate occurences and think both outcomes should have been the same when the circumstances behind both instances were not the same.

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

Circumstances werent the same. Two different situations that warranted two different responses based on several factors at the time of the incidents.

No offense EG but responses like yours annoy the heck outta me. You cant generalize an officers response on two separate occurences and think both outcomes should have been the same when the circumstances behind both instances were not the same.
Ease up.

I wasn't referring to the officers killing him. I meant the owner should have been made to put him down back then (or at the very least, donate him to a zoo or refuge).

[FidelisAdMortem]

Ease up.

I wasn't referring to the officers killing him. I meant the owner should have been made to put him down back then (or at the very least, donate him to a zoo or refuge).

I am eased. You werent clear in your statement, you simply asked why wasnt the chimp killed back then. And being the animal was killed by officers, simply by your statement, its impossible to assume you meant put down.

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

I am eased. You werent clear in your statement, you simply asked why wasnt the chimp killed back then. And being the animal was killed by officers, simply by your statement, its impossible to assume you meant put down.

I initially wrote "put down" but the quote said that, so I changed it to 'killed' thinking it would be clear what I meant. Sorry for the confusion.

[snagswolf]

Once they it their teen years they become very dangerous towards humans.
It was that way with my kids too.

[johnrocks]

I wouldn't have one of them nasty things, they belong in jungles and perhaps zoos, not in homes, course if that's what someone wants then fine I suppose.

[Vic Daring]

Ugh.

Bad idea to keep the chimp at home.

Horrific for the victim. If she lives, it will be an altered existence at best.

The owner, misguided as she may have been, do doubt loved the animal and she was forced to stab it with a kitchen knife and watch as it was shot to death.

And the chimp. Had a lapse into wild behavior. At the end, after the cop shot him, the chimp ran into the house and to its living quaters to die. Scared, hurt, and confused, it just wanted to go "home."

[Buffalo]

I wouldn't have one of them nasty things, they belong in jungles and perhaps zoos, not in homes, course if that's what someone wants then fine I suppose.
Call me an *******, but every time I hear a story like this, my sympathies go towards the animal over the human.

[Pudge]

I have to edit, I thought the owner was the one who got attacked. Turns out it was a friend of the owners.

Still, shouldn't be owning chimps. I hope the owner is insured.

[janer]

About 4 years ago, a couple went to "visit" a chimp they had raised. The animal had gotten violent - they do become increasingly temperamental with age - and had been sent to compound. The couple went to bring the chimp a birthday cake - does anyone else remember this? The couple was attacked, and the man was severely mauled and disfigured. Chimps are difficult, territorial and potentially violent animals with 5x the upper body strength of the average male.
I think there was also a chimp attack on the set of a recent movie.

[rob_b52]

I dont believe this actually happened. I mean, I just got done watching Madagascar 2, escape to africa. All the monkeys in that movie were friendly and very cool.

[Buffalo]

I dont believe this actually happened. I mean, I just got done watching Madagascar 2, escape to africa. All the monkeys in that movie were friendly and very cool.
Those are lemurs, primates but not monkeys. Chimps are Apes, primates but not monkeys. Lemurs are friendly, cool, and have neat Caribbean accents. Chimps mature and then reek havoc on the idiots that try to keep them as pets. I can see your confusion.

[angelicmadrigal]

What's wrong with people that they keep a chimp as a house pet? Once they it their teen years they become very dangerous towards humans.



:sighs:: in general WILD animals do not make good pets.

[AmericanSpirit]

Call me an *******, but every time I hear a story like this, my sympathies go towards the animal over the human.

********

Sorry you told me too :))

Your kinda right though. Wild animals don't really belong in peoples' homes.

[rob_b52]

Ok... I will do it...

BAD MONKEY!!!... you need a spanking!!! I spank you, you bad monkey!!

[CaptainPike]

I heard about this on Rush. He said she was bitten and mauled, but I don't remember anything about having her hands bitten off.

[jeepers]

I read where she had most of her face bitten off, too. EMT said that he'd never seen anything like it on a still living human being.

Jesus.

[Pudge]

I heard about this on Rush. He said she was bitten and mauled, but I don't remember anything about having her hands bitten off.

Opie & Anthony read a report that said that the woman had both eyes gouged out, had teeth pulled out of her mouth, her face clawed and mutilated, and was missing one arm from just below the elbow.

The chimp weighed 200 pounds and continued to attack the woman despite the owner stabbing it with a kitchen knife 15 times. The chimp then attacked police officers who arrived to escort the EMT's to the mauled woman. The animal chased officers back to their cars, and began to open the door of one of the cars when the officer inside fired three rounds into the chimp. STILL the animal ran into the house and into it's cage where it died.

[Gabby]

Opie & Anthony read a report that said that the woman had both eyes gouged out, had teeth pulled out of her mouth, her face clawed and mutilated, and was missing one arm from just below the elbow.

The chimp weighed 200 pounds and continued to attack the woman despite the owner stabbing it with a kitchen knife 15 times. The chimp then attacked police officers who arrived to escort the EMT's to the mauled woman. The animal chased officers back to their cars, and began to open the door of one of the cars when the officer inside fired three rounds into the chimp. STILL the animal ran into the house and into it's cage where it died.

One article I read about it said that the upper body strength of a chimp is about 8 times that a of man of the same size.

Yea.. the chimp was stabbed many times, than shot 3 times almost point blank in the chest and still was able to run back to it's bedroom to die.

[Gabby]

Ya know..

"the chimpanzee was toilet trained, dressed himself, took his own bath, ate at the table and drank wine from a stemmed glass.

He also brushed his teeth using a Water Pik, logged onto the computer to look at pictures, and watched television using the remote control."

One report I read said that the chimp wanted to go for a ride, had stolen the keys and was trying to get into cars when the incident happened. Guess he figured that at 15 it was time for him to start driving.

Apparently the chimp was agitated so the owner gave it tea spiked with "Xanax, an anti-anxiety drug that is used for pets as well as humans, because it had become agitated."

Guess the Xanax did not work.

It is so wrong on so many levels for some to keep a chimp as a pet. Generally they become uncontrollable in their teens and either have to be killed or are locked in cages for the rest of their lives. I've seen shows of rescues that keep the ex-pets and ex-entertainer chimps once they reach this stage.

I think that the owner is responsible for puttng people in danger with this animal.

[Lady Liberty]

This is one horrific story.
I don't think I would want to survive what this woman's gone through.

[ISYairio]

A Chihuahua is bad enough, no way I'd want something with their level of cognition, strength, and aggression.

[Wookinstien]

Chimps need trees, grass and other chimps to throw poo at, not rooming with humans. The only dumb animal here was the chimps owner.

[CID_0687]

I have to edit, I thought the owner was the one who got attacked. Turns out it was a friend of the owners.

Still, shouldn't be owning chimps. I hope the owner is insured.
It wouldn't surprise me if these people were not insured...the majority of insurance companies have a "No exotic pet" clause...unfortunately this also rules out having pet strippers.

[snagswolf]

He also brushed his teeth using a Water Pik, logged onto the computer to look at pictures, and watched television using the remote control."
Has anyone checked to see if one of our regular posters has gone missing?

[StoneScratcher]

Primates. Our closest genetic relatives.

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

The owner of a chimpanzee that violently mauled a family friend at a Stamford home Monday claims the animal was suffering from Lyme disease.

Police said they are working to get the 200-pound chimp's medical records to corroborate the story. Officials said they are investigating what medication the animal was taking and how long he may have had the disease.

The pet chimpanzee, named Travis, attacked 55-year-old Charla Nash at its Rockrimmon Road home Monday afternoon after it got out of the house.

“The animal is so intelligent, he grabbed the keys, unlocked the kitchen door to allow itself out," Stamford Police Capt. Richard Conklin said.

Nash was coming with an orange toy to help Travis' 70-year-old owner, Sandra Herold, calm the animal, who police said had been agitated all day.

Herold gave the chimp tea laced with Xanax in an attempt to calm him. When that didn't work, police said Herold called for Nash's help.

Police said Travis violently attacked Nash as she exited her vehicle. They called the attack "lengthy and vicious."

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After police arrive, one officer radios back: "There's a man down. He doesn't look good," he says, referring to Nash. "We've got to get this guy out of here. He's got no face."

Herold told New York-based WNYW-TV in an interview that aired Tuesday night that she has agonized over Nash's injuries and that Travis' death is "something that I can't hardly live with because he went in his room and died, and I wasn't with him. I couldn't get back in the house."

Dear God.

[Vic Daring]

Dear God.

Indeed.

That last part is where my mind keeps going on this story.

After all the freakout and the rage and whatever, at the end, the animal was in pain and afraid. All he could do was go to where he had always gone for comfort. Probably died expecting a hug.

And everytime I see anything about the victim, her injuries are worse. Sweet Jesus.

[Gabby]

Indeed.

That last part is where my mind keeps going on this story.

After all the freakout and the rage and whatever, at the end, the animal was in pain and afraid. All he could do was go to where he had always gone for comfort. Probably died expecting a hug.

And everytime I see anything about the victim, her injuries are worse. Sweet Jesus.

The poor victim's life, if she lives, will be horribly altered. She has no hands, no face, lost teeth and apparently no eyes any more. I wonder if she will be able to hear. My heart goes out to her. Poor woman.. OMG

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

While I have sympathy for a wild animal who had to be put down for acting like... well... a wild animal, my mind goes back to the absolute horror his victim endured. And for the owner to moan about how she couldn't be with him...

I don't know. It just struck me wrong, I guess.

[Gabby]

While I have sympathy for a wild animal who had to be put down for acting like... well... a wild animal, my mind goes back to the absolute horror his victim endured. And for the owner to moan about how she couldn't be with him...

I don't know. It just struck me wrong, I guess.

I had the same thought. However it was also the owner to as yelling for the police to kill the chimp.

I don't know what to think of this woman. She's apparently giving interviews. Her friend is struggling for her life and will not have much of a life if she lives and this dingbat is out getting her few minutes of fame. I know that she's used to being on TV with her chimp but come on.

I wonder if they will charge her in this case.

I do feel badly for the chimp as this is a case of an animal that was put in a situation that had no chance but to go bad one day. This what chimps do.. they are wild animals.

There are rescues filled with chimps who were raised like this, used as performers, etc. Lived in human evironments. Then when they get to big they are locked in cages. They have no clue why suddenly they are rejected by their 'family' that raised them. It's pretty cruel really.

[Vic Daring]

Yes. Please don't misunderstand from my last post.

I can't begin to imagine the horror the victim endured. I only hope the reports of her injuries are exaggerated. Just unimaginable.

The end for the chimp, though, haunts me for some reason. I dunno.

[Gabby]

Yes. Please don't misunderstand from my last post.

I can't begin to imagine the horror the victim endured. I only hope the reports of her injuries are exaggerated. Just unimaginable.

The end for the chimp, though, haunts me for some reason. I dunno.

It probably haunts you because all of this was avoidable if some dumb woman had not tried to live her fantasy that she could turn a wild animal into a substitute child.

I'm with you on the hope that the reported extent of her injuries are exagerated. Poor woman.

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

Yes. Please don't misunderstand from my last post.

I can't begin to imagine the horror the victim endured. I only hope the reports of her injuries are exaggerated. Just unimaginable.

The end for the chimp, though, haunts me for some reason. I dunno.

I agree.

[James Juno]

The victims here are the chimp and the woman he mauled. The perp is the "owner." Lots of idiots out there who think any animal can be "domesticated" simply by hugging it a lot during its youth. This tragedy was all but written on the wall.

[foxgurrrl]

I am SO sick of hearing about this on Fox News. They keep playing the 911 call OVER and over again. "What you're about to hear is very disturbing..." But we'll keep playing it for you! Tune in! WTH

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

I am SO sick of hearing about this on Fox News. They keep playing the 911 call OVER and over again. "What you're about to hear is very disturbing..." But we'll keep playing it for you! Tune in! WTH
One of the articles included a portion of the 911 call. I clicked and almost immediately turned it off. Horrific.

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

The victims here are the chimp and the woman he mauled. The perp is the "owner."
Agreed, and although it's reported they're 'considering charges' we all know nothing will happen to the owner. They're not going to jail a 70 year old woman.

[jeepers]

Originally Posted by Pudge http://forums.hannity.com/firestorm/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?p=49231751#post49231751)
Opie & Anthony read a report that said that the woman had both eyes gouged out, had teeth pulled out of her mouth, her face clawed and mutilated, and was missing one arm from just below the elbow.



I don't think that I'd want to live after this.

[Buffalo]

One of the articles included a portion of the 911 call. I clicked and almost immediately turned it off. Horrific.
I heard part of it and did the same. It is disgusting voyeurism. A woman has terrible injuries for life, a poor animal is dead because of someone's selfishness, and we get pummeled with the gory details.

Off topic, but the crash here, the media was similarly disgusting. The local news sent reporters to the airport to get reactions from the people waiting for 3407 to land. These poor people just learned about the accident and the news is right there to bring to all of us. IMHO very sad.

[Buffalo]

Agreed, and although it's reported they're 'considering charges' we all know nothing will happen to the owner. They're not going to jail a 70 year old woman.
You're probably right, but she should be charged.

[Chuangtzu]

I don't usually drop words into threads like these, but: anyone with der guegler or access to the library can learn how chimpanzees (bonobos generally excepted) literally deface their opponents. It's common enough to be considered a part of chimpanzee behavioral normality.

Of course, lots of people see "dolphin" and think "cute and docile ocean nymph," or somesuch. Dolphins murder, and with excess cruelty.

[Pudge]

[/I]

I don't think that I'd want to live after this.

I am surprised she didn't die from shock.

[Samm]

It was that way with my kids too.

Should have had them "put down" when you had the chance. ;)

[traditional_woman]

While I have sympathy for a wild animal who had to be put down for acting like... well... a wild animal, my mind goes back to the absolute horror his victim endured. And for the owner to moan about how she couldn't be with him...

I don't know. It just struck me wrong, I guess.

Ditto, that's thing stood out to me more than anything. I really hope this woman passed out and did not feel the whole attack. With her injuries..if it were me, I'd hope my family would just pull the plug!!

[ConstitutionHugger]

It was that way with my kids too.

I was wondering how long before somebody mentioned teens being that way ;)

[CaptainPike]

I don't usually drop words into threads like these, but: anyone with der guegler or access to the library can learn how chimpanzees (bonobos generally excepted) literally deface their opponents. It's common enough to be considered a part of chimpanzee behavioral normality.

Of course, lots of people see "dolphin" and think "cute and docile ocean nymph," or somesuch. Dolphins murder, and with excess cruelty.

I remember watching something on TV a while back. For some reason a group of chimps ganged up on one chimp and tore him apart. They even tore off his family jewels.

[Gabby]

I remember watching something on TV a while back. For some reason a group of chimps ganged up on one chimp and tore him apart. They even tore off his family jewels.

We often hear that humans are the only animals that kill like that. It's not true at all. Gorillas and chimps do... there are even cases of gorillas that have gone on serial killing stints.

[jeepers]

I am surprised she didn't die from shock.

I'm seriously surprised that she didn't exsanguinate with the injuries to her face and the supposedly loss of hands. You're talking arterial bleeding, and it doesn't take long for that to quickly end things.

[smyrna]

Everyone can have a bad day, a chimp, a pit bull or a human. A chimp is several times stronger than a human. This one weighed 175lbs. and obviously had the potential to inflict serious bodily harm. My heart truly goes out to the injured and families and may we all learn from this tragedy.

I thought there was a law against harboring wild animals?

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

Everyone can have a bad day, a chimp, a pit bull or a human. A chimp is several times stronger than a human. This one weighed 175lbs. and obviously had the potential to inflict serious bodily harm. My heart truly goes out to the injured and families and may we all learn from this tragedy.

I thought there was a law against harboring wild animals?

Nope. In her state, one is required to have a permit, but she was 'grandfathered' in and didn't need one.

[Bolshevik Hunter]

People are just in the dark when it comes to the danger of wild animals. It took centuries to domesticate Dogs from wolves violent characteristics. This moron had no business having this chimp in her care. I am sure she meant well, but now look at the result?

The problem also is zoos. They are filthy jail cells for animals who should be running free in the Wild. All for a bunch of idiots themselves who pay money to go and watch them in their misery. Same with circus animalls. What kind of life is that? I will never forget this Alligator I seen at the County fair. It was inside this tank that was maybe 4 inches wider round than it's entire body. It was a giant Alligator, so the bottomfeeding owner kept him inside this box full of water so he could make money off of it. Guy should be shot in my opinion.

Yeah, but this poor Lady must have suffered alot until she went into shock. Must have been horrible for the owner of the chimp to watch as well. Hey? Another reason why people should be armed at all times. Course, like I said before, the moron had no business owning this wild Animal that should have been living it's life in the Jungle far away from stupid humans. ~BH

[Bolshevik Hunter]

Everyone can have a bad day, a chimp, a pit bull or a human. A chimp is several times stronger than a human. This one weighed 175lbs. and obviously had the potential to inflict serious bodily harm. My heart truly goes out to the injured and families and may we all learn from this tragedy.

I thought there was a law against harboring wild animals?

"A bad day"? No. Living in the Wild is a bad day everyday. A constant struggle to survive. He probably had it real good. Hell, maybe The Chimp didn't like it too much when the lady came back from McDonald's with mustard on his Big Mac, I dunno. ~BH

[smyrna]

Nope. In her state, one is required to have a permit, but she was 'grandfathered' in and didn't need one.

Things that make you say hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.:cry:

[Buffalo]

People are just in the dark when it comes to the danger of wild animals. It took centuries to domesticate Dogs from wolves violent characteristics. This moron had no business having this chimp in her care. I am sure she meant well, but now look at the result?

The problem also is zoos. They are filthy jail cells for animals who should be running free in the Wild. All for a bunch of idiots themselves who pay money to go and watch them in their misery. Same with circus animalls. What kind of life is that? I will never forget this Alligator I seen at the County fair. It was inside this tank that was maybe 4 inches wider round than it's entire body. It was a giant Alligator, so the bottomfeeding owner kept him inside this box full of water so he could make money off of it. Guy should be shot in my opinion.

Yeah, but this poor Lady must have suffered alot until she went into shock. Must have been horrible for the owner of the chimp to watch as well. Hey? Another reason why people should be armed at all times. Course, like I said before, the moron had no business owning this wild Animal that should have been living it's life in the Jungle far away from stupid humans. ~BH
I agree with your thoughts on circuses and fairs. As for zoos, they provide many valuable services and are highly regulated. The AZA
http://www.aza.org/accreditation/ has very strict guidelines for zoos. Our own Buffalo zoo has been upgraded dramatically over the last few years to retain their accreditation.
Zoos help educate the public. Zoos provide habitat for many animals that no longer have a home in the wild. Zoo breeding programs have successfully saved many species from extinction and are important in maintaining genetic health in species populations, especially the great apes. You think chimp habitats in Africa are unencumbered free ranges? They are in serious jeopardy from hunting, human encroachment, deforestation, etc.

What this woman was doing with a chimp was fulfilling her selfish needs. She should be charged in the same manner as someone who is negligent with a firearm. This is in no way similar to animals in zoos though.

[Rachael]

No one wins in this situation. It's a tragedy for all involved.
I pray for the lady to have ease of suffering from her injuries. God... I just couldn't imagine what that must have and is like.

As for the elderly owner, I don't know.. maybe she thought he was cute in his youth and she was not properly educated about chimps or didn't bother to research how they can be.

Hopefully, more people will get the message to not harbor wild animals such as this in their homes.

[Stardust]

A liken what this woman did to someone forcing a human to wear a gorilla suit every day and then locking him/her up in a prison cell. Tell me how would you feel?

The life this woman forced upon this animal was totally unnatural. He should have been able to roam free in his natural environment. What she did borders on cruelty.

[Gabby]

A liken what this woman did to someone forcing a human to wear a gorilla suit every day and then locking him/her up in a prison cell. Tell me how would you feel?

The life this woman forced upon this animal was totally unnatural. He should have been able to roam free in his natural environment. What she did borders on cruelty.

What? The chimp was not locked up. Not sure what you are trying to say here. She gave him a very good life. It's just that chimps are violent by nature so it's to expected that at some point he's use violence to get his way.

[Ballygrl]

Ewwwww, on the local news today they gave a few more details about the woman mauled, I guess most papers haven't gone into details, but they said the woman had her eyes torn out, her nose was taken off, and her jaw was ripped off. The Doctor said she's still critical but her vital signs are pretty good despite what she went through.

[Marleysdaddy]

What? The chimp was not locked up. Not sure what you are trying to say here. She gave him a very good life.

Except for the human drugs and the, you know, not living in the jungle in Africa...

[rob_b52]

what creeps me out very muchly is the idea this woman calls this primate "her child" and "her baby"... thats creepy, but just short of beastiality. people do the same thing with domesticated pets too and yes, its creepy.

all I can say is, if I were to father something that looked like that, I would use a dull spoon to cut off my own twig and berries just to make sure that never happens again.

[sgdp]

what creeps me out very muchly is the idea this woman calls this primate "her child" and "her baby"... thats creepy, but just short of beastiality. people do the same thing with domesticated pets too and yes, its creepy.

all I can say is, if I were to father something that looked like that, I would use a dull spoon to cut off my own twig and berries just to make sure that never happens again.

I called the frankin bean "my baby", and look what it got me.


A stalker.

Thanks again, rob.

[Arya]

People are just in the dark when it comes to the danger of wild animals. It took centuries to domesticate Dogs from wolves violent characteristics. This moron had no business having this chimp in her care. I am sure she meant well, but now look at the result?

The problem also is zoos. They are filthy jail cells for animals who should be running free in the Wild. All for a bunch of idiots themselves who pay money to go and watch them in their misery. Same with circus animalls. What kind of life is that? I will never forget this Alligator I seen at the County fair. It was inside this tank that was maybe 4 inches wider round than it's entire body. It was a giant Alligator, so the bottomfeeding owner kept him inside this box full of water so he could make money off of it. Guy should be shot in my opinion.

Yeah, but this poor Lady must have suffered alot until she went into shock. Must have been horrible for the owner of the chimp to watch as well. Hey? Another reason why people should be armed at all times. Course, like I said before, the moron had no business owning this wild Animal that should have been living it's life in the Jungle far away from stupid humans. ~BH


You are correct that many zoos and those that keep wild animals for profit are just not properly equipped, nor validated, to keep those animals in the confines that they are forced into. I'm not talking about zoos that are designed much like the animals natural habitats-with plenty of space for the animal to swim, run, crawl, fly etc in. But those that are little more than a concrete cell or worse.

But getting back on topic: there is no excuse to keep a wild animal as a "pet". They may look cute or cuddly (well, in this chimp's case, mebbe not) or resemble a human, but they are unpredictable, and most times stronger, faster, and deadlier than humans. It's never the smart thing to keep one as a pet, they simply are not domesticated enough at this stage as would a dog or cat. Even then, domesticated animals still need to be treated with respect and a healthy understanding of how they behave and think. All pet owners need to be aware of the animals that they care for, and the animals specific behaviors and needs.

Although this lady had him for over a decade, and for the most part he was tame (supposedly), the mere fact that a creature who is more than 5 times stronger than it's handler is cause for caution at best from the owner. Additionally, that chimp should have been given to a facility that specializes with chimps, and allow him to be with his own kind.

Don't get me wrong-the owner may have given the chimp the best care and love that she was able (and please, no "beastiality" jokes here, lol)-but that is not the same as the companionship of being with their own kind.

[Arya]

Ewwwww, on the local news today they gave a few more details about the woman mauled, I guess most papers haven't gone into details, but they said the woman had her eyes torn out, her nose was taken off, and her jaw was ripped off. The Doctor said she's still critical but her vital signs are pretty good despite what she went through.

This woman is lucky to even be alive. Seriously.

Many people do not realize just how strong chimps are from humans-even extreme bodybuilders still do not have the same stregnth that an adult male chimp has. A male chimp has the stregnth to rip a person's body apart, as evident by what this woman suffered.

[Gabby]

This woman is lucky to even be alive. Seriously.

Many people do not realize just how strong chimps are from humans-even extreme bodybuilders still do not have the same stregnth that an adult male chimp has. A male chimp has the stregnth to rip a person's body apart, as evident by what this woman suffered.

Yep, a chimp's upper body strength is 8 times that of a human body builder. They are so beyond anything any human can handle.

[Bolshevik Hunter]

You are correct that many zoos and those that keep wild animals for profit are just not properly equipped, nor validated, to keep those animals in the confines that they are forced into. I'm not talking about zoos that are designed much like the animals natural habitats-with plenty of space for the animal to swim, run, crawl, fly etc in. But those that are little more than a concrete cell or worse.

But getting back on topic: there is no excuse to keep a wild animal as a "pet". They may look cute or cuddly (well, in this chimp's case, mebbe not) or resemble a human, but they are unpredictable, and most times stronger, faster, and deadlier than humans. It's never the smart thing to keep one as a pet, they simply are not domesticated enough at this stage as would a dog or cat. Even then, domesticated animals still need to be treated with respect and a healthy understanding of how they behave and think. All pet owners need to be aware of the animals that they care for, and the animals specific behaviors and needs.

Although this lady had him for over a decade, and for the most part he was tame (supposedly), the mere fact that a creature who is more than 5 times stronger than it's handler is cause for caution at best from the owner. Additionally, that chimp should have been given to a facility that specializes with chimps, and allow him to be with his own kind.

Don't get me wrong-the owner may have given the chimp the best care and love that she was able (and please, no "beastiality" jokes here, lol)-but that is not the same as the companionship of being with their own kind.

You make some very good points. This is just a horrible story. I hope the poor Lady recovers from this. ~BH

[Remus Lupin]

One of my coworkers owns a black bear (its still a cub). Here in Ohio you can own certain wild animals but you need a permit in order to have own the animal.
Some around here even own white tail deers (which isn't as dangerous as owning a bear or chimp).

[ScottFree]

One of my coworkers owns a black bear (its still a cub). Here in Ohio you can own certain wild animals but you need a permit in order to have own the animal.
Some around here even own white tail deers (which isn't as dangerous as owning a bear or chimp).

Correct. Deer are not AS dangerous. But still...


http://skinnymoose.com/tailsandtrails/2007/10/09/georgia-man-loses-his-life-in-deer-attack/

North Georgia Man Gored to death by Deer

Associated Press
October 8, 2007 - 10:20AM

John Henry Frix, 66, Cherokee County, Georgia was killed by a deer Sunday.
Frix apparently kept numerous deer on a wildlife ranch. Family members reported that one of the deer had been acting aggressively lately, as the mating season, or “rut”, approaches.
Cherokee County Sheriff Sgt. Jay Baker told reporters the animal was a “red deer,” not a native whitetail.
Sgt. Baker said the family called authorities about 7 p.m. Sunday when Frix didn’t return home from his ranch. After searching the large property, they found his body in a pen with the deer around 8:20 p.m. The family then shot and killed the deer.
Rangers from the Georgia Department of Natural Resources will take over the investigation later Monday and help decide the fate of more than 20 deer and other wild animals Frix had been raising on his ranch.
Attacks like this are rare, but do happen, especially among domesticated deer during mating season. It is one reason most wildlife agencies don’t allow people to keep deer as pets.

[ScottFree]

More deer attacks here:

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=1258792

http://www.overlawyered.com/2006/05/student_sues_illinois_universi.html

[Remus Lupin]

Correct. Deer are not AS dangerous. But still...


http://skinnymoose.com/tailsandtrails/2007/10/09/georgia-man-loses-his-life-in-deer-attack/

North Georgia Man Gored to death by Deer

Associated Press
October 8, 2007 - 10:20AM

John Henry Frix, 66, Cherokee County, Georgia was killed by a deer Sunday.
Frix apparently kept numerous deer on a wildlife ranch. Family members reported that one of the deer had been acting aggressively lately, as the mating season, or “rut”, approaches.
Cherokee County Sheriff Sgt. Jay Baker told reporters the animal was a “red deer,” not a native whitetail.
Sgt. Baker said the family called authorities about 7 p.m. Sunday when Frix didn’t return home from his ranch. After searching the large property, they found his body in a pen with the deer around 8:20 p.m. The family then shot and killed the deer.
Rangers from the Georgia Department of Natural Resources will take over the investigation later Monday and help decide the fate of more than 20 deer and other wild animals Frix had been raising on his ranch.
Attacks like this are rare, but do happen, especially among domesticated deer during mating season. It is one reason most wildlife agencies don’t allow people to keep deer as pets.

What about deer being raised for food?

[ScottFree]

One of my coworkers owns a black bear (its still a cub).

A bear. yeah, much safer to have one of those than a 200 lb chimpanze that is trained to eat meat. Tip, if you own one of these, ya might want to consider a surgar free diet. A full grown black bear will tear down an entire cabin for a twix bar. Trust me, I've seen it.

[ScottFree]

What about deer being raised for food?


Fine. Just don't treat them like pets. There hooves are extremely sharp.

Probaly a fake story, but a lot of truth in it. ( Ijust can't imagine a farmer being this stupid. Especially one who knows cows.) Very funny anyway, not to mention topical.

Roping A Deer——- ( Names have been removed to protect the Stupid! )
Actual letter from someone who farms and writes well!
I had this idea that I was going to rope a deer, put it in a stall, feed it up on corn for a couple of weeks, then kill it and eat it.
The first step in this adventure was getting a deer. I figured that, since they congregate at my cattle feeder and do not seem to have much fear of me when we are there (a bold one will sometimes come right up and sniff at the bags of feed while I am in the back of the truck not 4 feet away), it should not be difficult to rope one, get up to it and toss a bag over its head (to calm it down) then hog tie it and transport it home.
I filled the cattle feeder then hid down at the end with my rope.
The cattle, having seen the roping thing before, stayed well back. They were not having any of it.
After about 20 minutes, my deer showed up – 3 of them. I picked out.. ..a likely looking one, stepped out from the end of the feeder, and threw.. my rope. The deer just stood there and stared at me.
I wrapped the rope around my waist and twisted the end so I would have a good hold. The deer still just stood and stared at me, but you could tell it was mildly concerned about the whole rope situation.
I took a step towards it...it took a step away. I put a little tension on the rope and then received an education.
The first thing that I learned is that, while a deer may just stand there looking at you funny while you rope it, they are spurred to action when you start pulling on that rope.
That deer EXPLODED.
The second thing I learned is that pound for pound, a deer is a LOT stronger than a cow or a colt. A cow or a colt in that weight range I could fight down with a rope and with some dignity.
A deer– no chance.
That thing ran and bucked and twisted and pulled. There was no controlling it and certainly no getting close to it. As it jerked me off my feet and started dragging me across the ground, it occurred to me that having a deer on a rope was not nearly as good an idea as I had originally imagined.
The only upside is that they do not have as much stamina as many other animals.
A brief 10 minutes later, it was tired and not nearly as quick to jerk me off my feet and drag me when I managed to get up. It took me a few minutes to realize this, since I was mostly blinded by the blood flowing out of the big gash in my head. At that point, I had lost my taste for corn-fed venison. I just wanted to get that devil creature off the end of that rope.
I figured if I just let it go with the rope hanging around its neck, it would likely die slow and painfully somewhere. At the time, there was no love at all between me and that deer. At that moment, I hated the thing, and I would venture a guess that the feeling was mutual.
Despite the gash in my head and the several large knots where I had cleverly arrested the deer's momentum by bracing my head against various large rocks as it dragged me across the ground, I could still think clearly enough to recognize that there was a small chance that I shared some tiny amount of responsibility for the situation we were in, so I didn't want the deer to have to suffer a slow death, so I managed to get it lined back up in between my truck and the feeder - a little trap I had set before hand...kind of like a squeeze chute.
I got it to back in there and I started moving up so I could get my rope back.
Did you know that deer bite? They do! I never in a million years would have thought that a deer would bite somebody, so I was very surprised when I reached up there to grab that rope and the deer grabbed hold of my wrist.
Now, when a deer bites you, it is not like being bit by a horse where they just bite you and then let go. A deer bites you and shakes its head –almost like a pit bull. They bite HARD and it hurts.
The proper thing to do when a deer bites you is probably to freeze and draw back slowly. I tried screaming and shaking instead. My method was ineffective. It seems like the deer was biting and shaking for several minutes, but it was likely only several seconds.
I, being smarter than a deer (though you may be questioning that claim by now), tricked it.
While I kept it busy tearing the tendons out of my right arm, I reached up with my left hand and pulled that rope loose. That was when I got my final lesson in deer behavior for the day.
Deer will strike at you with their front feet. They rear right up on their back feet and strike right about head and shoulder level, and their hooves are surprisingly sharp. I learned a long time ago that, when an animal – like a horse –strikes at you with their hooves and you can't get away easily, the best thing to do is try to make a loud noise and make an aggressive move towards the animal.
This will usually cause them to back down a bit so you can escape.
This was not a horse. This was a deer, so obviously, such trickery would not work. In the course of a millisecond, I devised a different strategy. I screamed like a woman and tried to turn and run.
The reason I had always been told NOT to try to turn and run from a horse that paws at you is that there is a good chance that it will hit you in the back of the head. Deer may not be so different from horses after all, besides being twice as strong and 3 times as evil, because the second I turned to run, it hit me right in the back of the head and knocked me down.
Now, when a deer paws at you and knocks you down, it does not immediately leave. I suspect it does not recognize that the danger has passed. What they do instead is paw your back and jump up and down on you while you are laying there crying like a little girl and covering your head.
I finally managed to crawl under the truck and the deer went away.
So now I know why when people go deer hunting they bring a rifle with a scope to sort of even the odds.

[rob_b52]

I called the frankin bean "my baby", and look what it got me.


A stalker.

Thanks again, rob.

I do what I can, when I can..... and you asked for it anyway. can you honestly say your life isn't as interesting now? I bet it is...

how is your relationship witht he frankin bean, if its not too personal to ask...

[Gabby]

what creeps me out very muchly is the idea this woman calls this primate "her child" and "her baby"... thats creepy, but just short of beastiality. people do the same thing with domesticated pets too and yes, its creepy.

all I can say is, if I were to father something that looked like that, I would use a dull spoon to cut off my own twig and berries just to make sure that never happens again.

She also shared wine with the chimp and cuddled in bed with it after. She took baths with it. This woman was way over the top. One of the huge mistakes people make with animals, even dogs, is to try to have a human like relationship with them. Animals, especially wild animals that live in groups/families/packs expect a strong alpha with a power heirarchy. And those on the top of that structure can kill those below them... they hold total power.

The chimp grew up and was the alpha.... pretty scary.

[Gabby]

This woman is lucky to even be alive. Seriously.

Many people do not realize just how strong chimps are from humans-even extreme bodybuilders still do not have the same stregnth that an adult male chimp has. A male chimp has the stregnth to rip a person's body apart, as evident by what this woman suffered.

I'm not so sure she's lucky to be alive.. she lost her hands ( up to the elbows), lost her eyes, lost her nose, her face was torn off and eaten. Her jaw was also ripped off. I wonder if her hearing was also damaged in it all. No telling what other bodily harm was done.

If she lives she will be lucky if they can piece any of her back together. Hopefully they can do a face transplant for her. I don't think medical science can do eye transplants yet, can they?

If I were she, I'm not sure I would want to live with no way to communicate with the worlld, in great pain and disfigurement.

God, this is so horrible for her.

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

She also shared wine with the chimp and cuddled in bed with it after. She took baths with it.

Whoa whoa whoa whoa....

[snagswolf]

A full grown black bear will tear down an entire cabin for a twix bar.
I used to date a girl like that.

[snagswolf]

Yep, a chimp's upper body strength is 8 times that of a human body builder. They are so beyond anything any human can handle.
Everyone keeps going on about a chimp's upper body strength. Does that mean he has weak legs?

I'll have to remember to taunt them about that the next time I visit the zoo.

[bella-day]

I'm not so sure she's lucky to be alive.. she lost her hands ( up to the elbows), lost her eyes, lost her nose, her face was torn off and eaten. Her jaw was also ripped off. I wonder if her hearing was also damaged in it all. No telling what other bodily harm was done.

If she lives she will be lucky if they can piece any of her back together. Hopefully they can do a face transplant for her. I don't think medical science can do eye transplants yet, can they?

If I were she, I'm not sure I would want to live with no way to communicate with the worlld, in great pain and disfigurement.

God, this is so horrible for her.


The physical trauma this poor woman suffered is beyond imagination.

Only to be exceeded by the mental trauma. I've always understood that the most primal of human fears is that of being eaten alive. That's exactly what happened to this lady.

I would have to agree with you about whether she feels lucky to be alive or not. I don't know that I would want to survive such an attack being left with a life of limited communication skills and even more limited ability to care for myself...not to mention the horrible disfigurement.

I saw an interview with the idiot that owned this chimp. She was crying over her lose of this animal she considered a friend.

She also mentioned the pain and suffering of her human friend but it was almost in passing...she seemed more concerned with what she viewed as her own personal lose.

I do not know that I would be able to face the world after putting a fellow human in the kind of danger this woman did particularly with the outcome the victim of this vicious attack suffered.

I hope the doctors are able to perform a major medical miracle or this lady...and I also hope she sues the crap out of the idiot who morns the lose of her dear friend.

[Remus Lupin]

Fine. Just don't treat them like pets. There hooves are extremely sharp.

Probaly a fake story, but a lot of truth in it. ( Ijust can't imagine a farmer being this stupid. Especially one who knows cows.) Very funny anyway, not to mention topical.

Roping A Deer——- ( Names have been removed to protect the Stupid! )
Actual letter from someone who farms and writes well!
I had this idea that I was going to rope a deer, put it in a stall, feed it up on corn for a couple of weeks, then kill it and eat it.
The first step in this adventure was getting a deer. I figured that, since they congregate at my cattle feeder and do not seem to have much fear of me when we are there (a bold one will sometimes come right up and sniff at the bags of feed while I am in the back of the truck not 4 feet away), it should not be difficult to rope one, get up to it and toss a bag over its head (to calm it down) then hog tie it and transport it home.
I filled the cattle feeder then hid down at the end with my rope.
The cattle, having seen the roping thing before, stayed well back. They were not having any of it.
After about 20 minutes, my deer showed up – 3 of them. I picked out.. ..a likely looking one, stepped out from the end of the feeder, and threw.. my rope. The deer just stood there and stared at me.
I wrapped the rope around my waist and twisted the end so I would have a good hold. The deer still just stood and stared at me, but you could tell it was mildly concerned about the whole rope situation.
I took a step towards it...it took a step away. I put a little tension on the rope and then received an education.
The first thing that I learned is that, while a deer may just stand there looking at you funny while you rope it, they are spurred to action when you start pulling on that rope.
That deer EXPLODED.
The second thing I learned is that pound for pound, a deer is a LOT stronger than a cow or a colt. A cow or a colt in that weight range I could fight down with a rope and with some dignity.
A deer– no chance.
That thing ran and bucked and twisted and pulled. There was no controlling it and certainly no getting close to it. As it jerked me off my feet and started dragging me across the ground, it occurred to me that having a deer on a rope was not nearly as good an idea as I had originally imagined.
The only upside is that they do not have as much stamina as many other animals.
A brief 10 minutes later, it was tired and not nearly as quick to jerk me off my feet and drag me when I managed to get up. It took me a few minutes to realize this, since I was mostly blinded by the blood flowing out of the big gash in my head. At that point, I had lost my taste for corn-fed venison. I just wanted to get that devil creature off the end of that rope.
I figured if I just let it go with the rope hanging around its neck, it would likely die slow and painfully somewhere. At the time, there was no love at all between me and that deer. At that moment, I hated the thing, and I would venture a guess that the feeling was mutual.
Despite the gash in my head and the several large knots where I had cleverly arrested the deer's momentum by bracing my head against various large rocks as it dragged me across the ground, I could still think clearly enough to recognize that there was a small chance that I shared some tiny amount of responsibility for the situation we were in, so I didn't want the deer to have to suffer a slow death, so I managed to get it lined back up in between my truck and the feeder - a little trap I had set before hand...kind of like a squeeze chute.
I got it to back in there and I started moving up so I could get my rope back.
Did you know that deer bite? They do! I never in a million years would have thought that a deer would bite somebody, so I was very surprised when I reached up there to grab that rope and the deer grabbed hold of my wrist.
Now, when a deer bites you, it is not like being bit by a horse where they just bite you and then let go. A deer bites you and shakes its head –almost like a pit bull. They bite HARD and it hurts.
The proper thing to do when a deer bites you is probably to freeze and draw back slowly. I tried screaming and shaking instead. My method was ineffective. It seems like the deer was biting and shaking for several minutes, but it was likely only several seconds.
I, being smarter than a deer (though you may be questioning that claim by now), tricked it.
While I kept it busy tearing the tendons out of my right arm, I reached up with my left hand and pulled that rope loose. That was when I got my final lesson in deer behavior for the day.
Deer will strike at you with their front feet. They rear right up on their back feet and strike right about head and shoulder level, and their hooves are surprisingly sharp. I learned a long time ago that, when an animal – like a horse –strikes at you with their hooves and you can't get away easily, the best thing to do is try to make a loud noise and make an aggressive move towards the animal.
This will usually cause them to back down a bit so you can escape.
This was not a horse. This was a deer, so obviously, such trickery would not work. In the course of a millisecond, I devised a different strategy. I screamed like a woman and tried to turn and run.
The reason I had always been told NOT to try to turn and run from a horse that paws at you is that there is a good chance that it will hit you in the back of the head. Deer may not be so different from horses after all, besides being twice as strong and 3 times as evil, because the second I turned to run, it hit me right in the back of the head and knocked me down.
Now, when a deer paws at you and knocks you down, it does not immediately leave. I suspect it does not recognize that the danger has passed. What they do instead is paw your back and jump up and down on you while you are laying there crying like a little girl and covering your head.
I finally managed to crawl under the truck and the deer went away.
So now I know why when people go deer hunting they bring a rifle with a scope to sort of even the odds.


You should go on Youtube and search "deer attacks hunter". Real amusing.

[foxgurrrl]

One of the articles included a portion of the 911 call. I clicked and almost immediately turned it off. Horrific.Exactly. Why would any sane person want to hear a recording of another living pure torment and utter fear over and over. No thanks! :hand:

[ScottFree]

You should go on Youtube and search "deer attacks hunter". Real amusing.


I have seen it. many times.

[Ballygrl]

This woman is lucky to even be alive. Seriously.

Many people do not realize just how strong chimps are from humans-even extreme bodybuilders still do not have the same stregnth that an adult male chimp has. A male chimp has the stregnth to rip a person's body apart, as evident by what this woman suffered.

I had no idea they have as much strength as they do.

[Matthewobamahater]

Chimpanzees are members of the Hominidae (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hominidae) family, along with gorillas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorilla), humans (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human), and orangutans (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orangutan). Chimpanzee are thought to have split from human evolution about 6 million years ago and thus the two chimpanzee species are the closest living relatives to humans; all being members of the Hominini tribe (along with extinct species of Hominina (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hominina) subtribe). Chimpanzees are the only known members of the Panina subtribe. The two Pan species split only about one million years ago. Around 93% of human and chimpanzee DNA sequences are the same.[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chimp#cite_note-ns-2)

They are our relatives, chimpanzee species are the closest living relatives to humans

[Gabby]

Chimpanzees are members of the Hominidae (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hominidae) family, along with gorillas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorilla), humans (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human), and orangutans (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orangutan). Chimpanzee are thought to have split from human evolution about 6 million years ago and thus the two chimpanzee species are the closest living relatives to humans; all being members of the Hominini tribe (along with extinct species of Hominina (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hominina) subtribe). Chimpanzees are the only known members of the Panina subtribe. The two Pan species split only about one million years ago. Around 93% of human and chimpanzee DNA sequences are the same.[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chimp#cite_note-ns-2)

They are our relatives, chimpanzee species are the closest living relatives to humans

And like many other close relatives, it's best to not want to share a house with them. :))

[Arya]

I had no idea they have as much strength as they do.

It's surprising how much stronger they are, and looks can be decieving.

And to elaborate to Gaby's post concerning my first sentence (she's lucky to even be alive), Gaby, you're correct. I made that post before I heard the extent of that woman's damage. "Lucky to be alive" may be subjective at this point in time to what she will have to deal with for the rest of her life.

I still cannot believe that the owner of the chimp displayed more concern over the animal than her friend's ordeal.

[Arya]

You should go on Youtube and search "deer attacks hunter". Real amusing.

I'll go off topic for a moment-I've been chased out of an orchard by a male deer (rutting season). They can be dangerous, and all wild animals need to be treated with caution and respect. Although I was in my grandparent's apple orchard at the time, it was fall, and I was on his turf, and he let me know what he thought about that.

Coming back to topic: all wild animals should never be treated as pets. Ever. They belong either in the wild, or in conditions that represent thier natural surroundings as much as possible-and of course should be with thier own kind (if they are pack/herd/group oriented type animals).

[Dreamy]

What a horrific story. Poor lady. The pain and trauma she must have endured. Is she still alive? I doubt I would want to be.

[rob_b52]

What a horrific story. Poor lady. The pain and trauma she must have endured. Is she still alive? I doubt I would want to be.

that would be a crime against humanity because your face is so..... dreamy.....

:doh: what is wrong with me...? the insult part of my brain aint working:wall:

[Dreamy]

that would be a crime against humanity because your face is so..... dreamy.....

:doh: what is wrong with me...? the insult part of my brain aint working:wall:


Birthday nice Rob? :))

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

This is just disturbing.

http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/portlet/article/html/imageDisplay.jsp?contentItemRelationshipId=2323835

[Gabby]

This is just disturbing.

http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/portlet/article/html/imageDisplay.jsp?contentItemRelationshipId=2323835

That chimp is big... and that was in 2002... 6 years ago. He was 8 years old.

Talk about 'humanizing' a pet.

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

That chimp is big... and that was in 2002... 6 years ago. He was 8 years old.

Talk about 'humanizing' a pet.

Yeah, and the body language (both of them) is just damned creepy.

[Arya]

Yeah, and the body language (both of them) is just damned creepy.

That was disturbing.

[ScottFree]

Yeah, and the body language (both of them) is just damned creepy.

It's been said they were sleeping in the same bed and bathing together. It's not much of a stretch to speculate.... Lets just say I wouldn't put it past her to have done it at least once.

Icky!!!!!

[Bolshevik Hunter]

I guess apparently this Lady and Travis would share a glass of wine every night prior to going to bed together. Man, sleeping with a drunk Monkey? That's just wrong. ~BH

[Gabby]

I guess apparently this Lady and Travis would share a glass of wine every night prior to going to bed together. Man, sleeping with a drunk Monkey? That's just wrong. ~BH

Not an image I want stuck in my head...

By the way it was not a monkey. It was a chimp. Huge difference.

[Mike88]

You want to bring the wild kingdom into your house, don't be surprised if you find yourself on the menu.

Yep. I am pretty sure this will never happen to me because I will not be keeping a pet capable of serious harm to me or family such as a chimp, large cat, pitbull, gator, etc.

I do hope the woman pulls through, and I can also see a huge lawsuit after this.

[bella-day]

Yeah, and the body language (both of them) is just damned creepy.

Isn't that the truth!

The body language is that of a couple as opposed to a woman and her beloved pet.

More than creepy, it's outright sick.

[uncledoom]

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2009/02/22/2009-02-22_man_who_lost_face_in_05_mauling_knows_he.html

Here is a survivor from a chimp attack....

[bella-day]

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2009/02/22/2009-02-22_man_who_lost_face_in_05_mauling_knows_he.html

Here is a survivor from a chimp attack....

:eek:

I can't even read the story. The picture of this poor man is too much for me to take.

[JBG]

Double post.

[JBG]

So why wasn't he killed back then?

I hope the owner is charged.At the time, people thought it was hilarious, more like a circus animal act.

No one stopped to think that the reason that it went on so long was that no one was about to slap handcuffs on a 175 lb. chimp (his weight back then).

[BagleyClan]

If we evolved from apes, which chimps are apart of, vegetarianism is not our nature. ;)