Dems Follow Obama's "Stimulus Bill" Blindly

[JBOTW]

To put it simply, Congress needs to cut the pork, cut the crap, and get to work: Promotional Link Removed by LEE
"Why can't we just take out the pork? Take it out and vote on the blasted thing.

Not to sound like a nut, but the probable explanation is that the Democrats want this bill to fail. Yes, I said it. Why? Because they can point to the Republicans and say to their constituents, "See, they made our economy falter, they don't care about you." It's a masterful move: if the bill passes and succeeds, the Democrats (and Obama) get the credit. If it goes down in flames, the Democrats blame the Republicans. It's a win-win for them."

What do you think?

[WideEyedDisbelief]

I agree with your comment that they want to blame the Republicans but I have to disagree with your explanation that the Democrats want the bill to fail. They want all that money to go to the organizations that supported them durring the election.
I also agree that they want this bill to be a win-win for them. That is why they are trying so hard to get Republicans on board with this one. It will be another Fannie and Freddie situation. When this bill fails and all the Democrats are standing around with thier hands in the cookie jar again they want to be able to point to the Republicans and say that it was thier fault for supporting it.

[sheila0405]

The Democrats desperately needed this bill to pass. This is what President Obama promised--a wholesale transfer of power from private businesses to the federal government. Why? People actually believe that big government will solve all of our problems. This is definitely a first 100 days must win. We face a long four years of increased socialist policies if the GOP can't get its base fired up enough to stop this kind of thing. The GOP has to return to its roots and wake up a sleeping public which unknowingly has voted in an Administration that is downright dangerous to our nation's future.

[JBOTW]

I agree with your comment that they want to blame the Republicans but I have to disagree with your explanation that the Democrats want the bill to fail. They want all that money to go to the organizations that supported them durring the election.
I also agree that they want this bill to be a win-win for them. That is why they are trying so hard to get Republicans on board with this one. It will be another Fannie and Freddie situation. When this bill fails and all the Democrats are standing around with thier hands in the cookie jar again they want to be able to point to the Republicans and say that it was thier fault for supporting it.

Excellent points; I can't say that I disagree with you...

[fendrickipedia]

This whole thing looks like a systematic attempt to strip America of it's greatness and Superpower standing in the world. If the CBO is saying this thing won't work, a majority of Americans say this thing won't work, and common sense dictates that this thing won't work, then why would anyone with any shred of a thought process back this? It makes no sense.

When this thing passes and does fail, they will blame the Republicans again, and they will spin this saying "See we told you so. Capitalism doesn't work" and write up another pork filled stimulus bill that will even more deeply Socialize America.

Gorbachev is now beginning to chuckle, heading towards getting the last laugh after all. Maybe this is change he can believe in.

[elliy]

I very happy that the Democrats cant get the Republicans on board.... a majority of Americans say this thing won't work, and common sense dictates that this thing won't work, Obama run on change where the change?

[PhantomPholly]

To put it simply, Congress needs to cut the pork, cut the crap, and get to work: http://jumpinginpools.blogspot.com/2009/02/stimulus-bill-dems-follow-obama-blindly.html

"Why can't we just take out the pork? Take it out and vote on the blasted thing.

Not to sound like a nut, but the probable explanation is that the Democrats want this bill to fail. Yes, I said it. Why? Because they can point to the Republicans and say to their constituents, "See, they made our economy falter, they don't care about you." It's a masterful move: if the bill passes and succeeds, the Democrats (and Obama) get the credit. If it goes down in flames, the Democrats blame the Republicans. It's a win-win for them."

What do you think?

You are operating from the wrong conceptual framework.

NO ONE is following Obama. Obama follows his party 99.5% of the time - he is not a leader.

This is the Reid/Pelosi Porculis Bill of 2009, and will long be remembered as the first in a series of cascading failures.

[G22Dude]

You are operating from the wrong conceptual framework.

NO ONE is following Obama. Obama follows his party 99.5% of the time - he is not a leader.

This is the Reid/Pelosi Porculis Bill of 2009, and will long be remembered as the first in a series of cascading failures.

Phantom you hit the nail on the head. Obama is the public face of this, but Pelosi and Reid are the brains of this little opearation. IF they are so confident in their position pass the bill. Why are the dems so hard up for the Republicans to join them and be bipartisan. If this porculius succeeds, which it won't then the dems would win. Why are they dying to share the glory with Republicans.

The fact is they know this crap won't work but they are desparate to grow gov't and they need republicans to share the blame. I personally will do everything in my power to see that Spectar, Collins and Snow not get reelected. They disgust me for crossing over.

[Norm D'PLume]

listen to this radio comedy sketch about the stimulus bill entitled "Uncle Sam's Pork"

You need to provide a reasonable synopsis if you post video links. Further... you need to have personal commentary on the points of the video you wish to discuss.

These are discussion boards. Members who cannot access multimedia, are on slow dial-up connections, on bandwidth limited accounts, etc. cannot discuss an unseen video. Failure to provide a reasonable synopsis is grounds for removal of the link and / or post.

Further, what we are seeing a lot of is links to videos that have already been posted (or another version of them) and without a synopsis members have no way of knowing they are simply wasting their time and bandwidth. LEE

[penner01]

You are operating from the wrong conceptual framework.

NO ONE is following Obama. Obama follows his party 99.5% of the time - he is not a leader.

This is the Reid/Pelosi Porculis Bill of 2009, and will long be remembered as the first in a series of cascading failures.

I don't think I totally agree. I believe he gave this to team Pelosi so that they could fund self serving projects. That was to buy their votes. Most of these projects appear to be items that should long since have been handled by state and local governments but they too, squandered budgets to the point they can't pay for them.

By doing so, he's able to mask those things that he needs funding for to further his personal political agenda. I see lots of locations where they talk about all the "projects" that are supposed to create or "save" millions of jobs, but I don't find anyplace that shows a comprehensive breakdown of Federal projects and departments, etc, that this bill will fund. Anybody have a source?

[George Gibbs]

Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said flatly: "We won the election; we wrote the bill." Now, who will we blame if it fails????

[John_The_Mechanic]

To put it simply, Congress needs to cut the pork, cut the crap, and get to work: Promotional Link Removed by LEE
"Why can't we just take out the pork? Take it out and vote on the blasted thing.

Not to sound like a nut, but the probable explanation is that the Democrats want this bill to fail. Yes, I said it. Why? Because they can point to the Republicans and say to their constituents, "See, they made our economy falter, they don't care about you." It's a masterful move: if the bill passes and succeeds, the Democrats (and Obama) get the credit. If it goes down in flames, the Democrats blame the Republicans. It's a win-win for them."

What do you think?

I don't think its nesscessarily following blindly. No more than the Repubs followed George W blindly.

I think after all the mistakes that have been made these past 8 years that the Dems realize they're under the microscope now. With talk radio being as powerful as it is on both sides and how Obama showed theres power in numbers on the internet, I think they realize that they need to act an get some work done. They're full aware of the Repubs "do nothing congress" quotes and Pelosi made very clear yesterday to let people know that in the press conference.

What I think was sad though was watching John Boehner cry like a little baby say, " why didn't they include us.....waaaaaaaaa!........waaaaaaaaa! They took their ball and played somewhere else! Waaaaaaaa!"

Well John? What did you think was going to happen? Huh? After stonewalling the Dems for the past 8 years, blocking them in commitees, turning off microphones, walking out of meetings and calling them over, blocking bills from entering the floor, midnight bill passages? What were you guys thinking? Did you think there wouldn't be a price to pay for this? Huh?

This is why I find it laughabble now that John Boehner and his crew are crying, "gee!! I thought you guys were going to be bi-partisan". Give me a break!!

I called Harry Reids office and told him to grow a pair. Just make the bill however it needs to be to get this economy rolling again. The dems will be behind you. And let the crybaby repubs fillbuster. Let them make their arguments so we can record them on CSPAN so they can tell the country exactly what they want. More govt welfare for the rich and allowing them not pay their fair share of taxes. If I were ol Harry, I'd say, "go ahead fellas! Theres the mic and the camera! Go ahead and make your non-specific arguments to the American public".

[Gem]

To put it simply, Congress needs to cut the pork, cut the crap, and get to work: Promotional Link Removed by LEE
"Why can't we just take out the pork? Take it out and vote on the blasted thing.

Not to sound like a nut, but the probable explanation is that the Democrats want this bill to fail. Yes, I said it. Why? Because they can point to the Republicans and say to their constituents, "See, they made our economy falter, they don't care about you." It's a masterful move: if the bill passes and succeeds, the Democrats (and Obama) get the credit. If it goes down in flames, the Democrats blame the Republicans. It's a win-win for them."

What do you think?

I cant see how it will be on the republicans now.
The bill passed and all dems voted for it and 3 republicans.
Its the dems baby now.they made it, they wanted it and they got it.

[Gem]

I don't think its nesscessarily following blindly. No more than the Repubs followed George W blindly.

I think after all the mistakes that have been made these past 8 years that the Dems realize they're under the microscope now. With talk radio being as powerful as it is on both sides and how Obama showed theres power in numbers on the internet, I think they realize that they need to act an get some work done. They're full aware of the Repubs "do nothing congress" quotes and Pelosi made very clear yesterday to let people know that in the press conference.

What I think was sad though was watching John Boehner cry like a little baby say, " why didn't they include us.....waaaaaaaaa!........waaaaaaaaa! They took their ball and played somewhere else! Waaaaaaaa!"

Well John? What did you think was going to happen? Huh? After stonewalling the Dems for the past 8 years, blocking them in commitees, turning off microphones, walking out of meetings and calling them over, blocking bills from entering the floor, midnight bill passages? What were you guys thinking? Did you think there wouldn't be a price to pay for this? Huh?

This is why I find it laughabble now that John Boehner and his crew are crying, "gee!! I thought you guys were going to be bi-partisan". Give me a break!!

I called Harry Reids office and told him to grow a pair. Just make the bill however it needs to be to get this economy rolling again. The dems will be behind you. And let the crybaby repubs fillbuster. Let them make their arguments so we can record them on CSPAN so they can tell the country exactly what they want. More govt welfare for the rich and allowing them not pay their fair share of taxes. If I were ol Harry, I'd say, "go ahead fellas! Theres the mic and the camera! Go ahead and make your non-specific arguments to the American public".


This bill you dems made up is nothing but garbage.
you people didn't even read the bill before they signed it.
And by doing this you dems passed a law to destroy and kill some of our senior citizens with your stupied healthcare plan you got in this bill.

You all are going to tell the doctors what they can give you medications for and what they can't. or what they can doctor you for or what they can't. and if you all think it cost to much for the senior citizens medications and treatments which could be life saving then they wont get it because of you dems, and a lot will die because of it. So you have made your selves gods now by killing senior citizens and unborn babies.

you people made the statement that the senior citizens should accept their illiness and pains that come with old age.
this is a statement right out of hell from satan himself.

what are you going to do when you see your parents suffer like this. or your own children if they wont be allowed to be treated for something that could kill them.

You also have devided the country a lot more by passing this crazy bill. Some are talking now of spliting the country in half, or have a revelotution, or civel war, because of this bill.

You dems can take this bill and shove it where the sun don't shine, or go straight to hell with it as far as more than half of this country is concerned.

[boofreakinyah]

I don't think I totally agree. I believe he gave this to team Pelosi so that they could fund self serving projects. That was to buy their votes. Most of these projects appear to be items that should long since have been handled by state and local governments but they too, squandered budgets to the point they can't pay for them.

By doing so, he's able to mask those things that he needs funding for to further his personal political agenda. I see lots of locations where they talk about all the "projects" that are supposed to create or "save" millions of jobs, but I don't find anyplace that shows a comprehensive breakdown of Federal projects and departments, etc, that this bill will fund. Anybody have a source?

Penner, I think you actually have a grip on this. This is just a very effective, two-pronged smokescreen. The first prong will prove to weaken and shrink our economy as the second draws our attention to his right hand while his left hand guides the details of his agenda.

As I watched today as the government pretended to represent the best interests “of the people”, I continued to hear the word “fraud” echo in my mind so I decided to get on line an do a simple google search of the words “stimulus” and “fraud”.

Below are the results. Decide for yourself what is actually happening to our country. Ask yourself if one of these two has definitions that apply to the president, his party and his economic bill. When will the American people open their eyes? Will it be before or after we have made the complete and permanent transition from Freedom to Socialism?

stim·u·lus

Pronunciation: \’stim-ya-lis\

Function: noun

Inflected Form(s): plural stim·u·li

Etymology: Latin

Date: 1684

: something that rouses or incites to activity: as a: incentive b: stimulant

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fraud

Pronunciation: \’frod\

Function: noun

Etymology: Middle English fraude, from Anglo-French, from Latin fraud-, fraus

Date: 14th century

1 a: deceit , trickery ; specifically : intentional perversion of truth in order to induce another to part with something of value or to surrender a legal right b: an act of deceiving or misrepresenting : trick

2 a: a person who is not what he or she pretends to be : impostor ; also : one who defrauds : cheat b: one that is not what it seems or is represented to be

I'm not sure if this is what you are looking for but here is a list of spending. http://www.propublica.org/special/the-stimulus-plan-a-detailed-list-of-spending

[Shella_Bella1966]

Yes, they Democrats followed blindly. they didn't question "The annointed one", nor did any of them stand up and say "Everyone should read this bill before signing it". Instead, they followed Obama like a bunch of "Moonies". And once it actually comes to light what ALL is in this bill, a bill they didn't bother to read before signing. Their credibility is going to be GONE!

[Tigerdrafted]

Just because a man says that he can fix your poverty with another mans money doesn't mean that you have to believe it but people do.

[cliff585]

wow the people on this forum sound like jilted lovers....can anyone and i mean ANYONE tell me how the last 8 years were so good to the American economy? please tell me how W. kept the economy afloat i would like to know..thanks

[phillyfanatic]

On Mon., when the faux Messiah signs the Porkulas, he and Timmy the Tax Cheat will own the economy. As the Dow tanks , commercial property goes down in value, more bail outs will be processed. Socialism if not in fact but in ideology will be implanted in the minds of the soft headed non-producers, the minorities, and the so called intellectuals from the '60's who followed this naif. It will take much education, continuing explanation on Talk Radio, the Net, and on Fox to help the mushy headed to understand capitalism , free enterprise, and the Constitution. It might not work. Timmy is over in Europe trying to get Europeans to deal with what he cannot. And with Islamofascism still hitting the West, the USA and the ME, I actually believe that this naif in the WH will be overwhelmed and unfortunately, make a huge blunder which will be global in effect. Oh and BTW, our borders are still loose and Islamos still sneak across the Mexican and Canadian borders causing even more economic and national security problems. But, don't worry, Michele and BHO are in Chicago dancing.

[phillyfanatic]

Cliff: two words, tax cuts. In Sept. '08, George Soros and the Left plus many short sellers decided to get rich at the expense of investors like myself. They crashed the system. Of course, the Fannie, Freddie manipulations by Raines, Dodd, Frank and BHO did not help. So, go back to tax cuts and part of this problem will evaporate.

[Tigerdrafted]

wow the people on this forum sound like jilted lovers....can anyone and i mean ANYONE tell me how the last 8 years were so good to the American economy? please tell me how W. kept the economy afloat i would like to know..thanks

Well the Bush tax cuts certainly kept things afloat. In addition to that, Bush got nuclear power going again. You might not appreciate that now or never since I doubt any of you liberals understand how much electricity we generate from coal but think we can cap and trade solar and wind alternatives. Other than those two things, Bush has pretty much been spending money through the same outdated economic tax and spend system as Obama continues to do.

Obama provides a 50 billion dollar payout to unions. The same unions that gave 500 million to the Democraps and Zero to the Republicans. Obama provides 880 billion stimulus to the same bloated programs that have been in existence. Obama promised change but so far is just pumping more money into the same system. Pretty much more of the same. I would like to know how Obama plans on subsidizing green energy equivalent to the tune of 2 trillion dollars a year. Without nuclear, Obama hasn't got a prayer.

The pay to play crowed is running things now. If you are not part of the social elite liberal crowd, then you will be one of the serfs.

Obama hasn't changed anything other than add more funding to government programs which will lead to greater corporatization control over factors of production and a much greater disparity in income gap between the rich and the poor. Most of our large corporations will be controlled by congress and the economy will go broke and inflation will kick in latter. Eventually we will have to raise taxes.

[Ruzzty]

I can probably say with a 99.9% certainty that Obama has not read, nor will ever read the bill from cover to cover.

[BluesuiterRetired]

A noted economist was on the tube recently. He stated that DESPITE the claims that the NON-STIMULUS package would be a boon for small businesses, it is anything BUT.

He stated that small businesses would be in worse shape by the end of the year than they currently are.

How many people will those small businesses layoff?

How many of those small businesses will close their doors when, even after a number of layoffs, they can no longer stay afloat?

[KyrieEleison]

I agree with your comment that they want to blame the Republicans but I have to disagree with your explanation that the Democrats want the bill to fail. They want all that money to go to the organizations that supported them durring the election.
I also agree that they want this bill to be a win-win for them. That is why they are trying so hard to get Republicans on board with this one. It will be another Fannie and Freddie situation. When this bill fails and all the Democrats are standing around with thier hands in the cookie jar again they want to be able to point to the Republicans and say that it was thier fault for supporting it.

Yep wideeyeddisbelief-I agree with you. Just like W. ended up cleaning up after that albatross (ahem, Clinton) for 8 yrs then took the heat on top of it . . . republicans will surely get the blame for this astronomical "stimuless" (yes I misspelled that on purpose cuz it really is less not more help that our children and grandchildren and . . . will pay for.

Check out this warm and fuzzy "stimuless watch" site: http://www.stimuluswatch.org/project/by_state how sweet huh?

[Ruzzty]

Maybe all Republican mayors, Governors, etc... should just decline any money!

[Wndrtch]

wow the people on this forum sound like jilted lovers....can anyone and i mean ANYONE tell me how the last 8 years were so good to the American economy? please tell me how W. kept the economy afloat i would like to know..thanks

What makes you think that any President has the ability to central-plan/micro-manage a $17Trln economy? Do yo have any idea how complex a $17Trln economy is? Do you really think that one person, or one group can actually manage such a beast?

This is why only tax-cuts will work to get us back on track. "Allowing" we taxpayers to keep more of what we earn is the only practicle means to help everybody.

[cliff585]

wow...so only tax cuts can help us and wait Pres. Bush didnt destroy the economy...i must be living in a parallel universe...last time i checked the war in iraq depleted most of our money...and lets talk about the private sector of business...they are the ones why we are in this mess..its called CORPORATE GREED..and guess whos watch it happened on? also just like with my submaine captain no matter what happens he is ultimately responisble no matter who messes up on the ship

[lassidor]

last time i checked the war in iraq depleted most of our money...

If the 600+ Billion spent over then last 7 years in the Iraq war depleted MOST of our money what will the 800+ spent this week do with the rest?

[leechstomper]

I, for one, am proud of our freshman Dem congressman Walt Minnick. He voted against the package. He said, as a businessman, he thought that there was no way this was going to work.

I bet all of the liberal PACs that spent so much money getting him elected in such a heavy repub district are having a real case of heartburn right now.

[Chaceh]

Stupid Democrats. Aren't these people supposed to take their job serious?

[cliff585]

Stupid Democrats. Aren't these people supposed to take their job serious?

when i read this all i thought about was the face you were making...:((....get a grip...to do nothing is worse..you people kill me about this stimulus...i hope some Govs dont take the money it will be more to go around....

[USNTC764]

you're a fool if you believe the Anti-insurgency in iraq is what has caused the liquidity shock. It is the $800+ billion "trading out" of global cash via Collateral in OTC derivatives in 2007 that is at fault here. You can thank the December 2000 Commodity Futures Modernization Act, as it made OTC derivatives non regulated.

[montaukhwy]

Your blaming conservative ideology, aka deregulation for the banking crisis.

[montaukhwy]

Between Madoff and now Stanford Financial in Dallas, free markets and unregulated capitalism IS the problem.
There is more confidence in the government having control over banks than private CEOs.
If capitalist don't want to nationalize banks than why are all the capitalist bankers asking for government money?

[montaukhwy]

If the 600+ Billion spent over then last 7 years in the Iraq war depleted MOST of our money what will the 800+ spent this week do with the rest?
the 800 billion will be directly spent in the United States. An attempt to rebuild our infrastructure. I don't care about Iraqs infrastructure.

[A_conservative_dude]

the 800 billion will be directly spent in the United States.
Yeah, by Acorn and all the other liberal activist groups. Don't you even listen to Hannity's radio show, or Levin's? Reagan cut taxes by 25%and that gave us the 25 year economic boom we had. The free market is the only thing that can get us out of this mess. Socialism has been proven to fail many times, but especially by the Russians. Why do you think they tried to do shock therapy to their economy. If the libs would just get out of the way, our economy would be amazing. And I guarentee any of you libs that you can't give me or any other intelligent conservative in the world even a good reason why this crap money fling bill will do anything to help our economy. If you really listen to what Obama says, he is talking about converting us to socialism, not rebuilding the free market. But you will never do that because you think he is "historic" and "remarkable".

[A_conservative_dude]

free markets and unregulated capitalism IS the problem.


Prove it. Just try to prove that the free market system our country has its roots in is the problem. If it is, then why are we THE superpower in the world? Why are we not a tyranny? Why did unregulated capitalism give us the economic boom of the 20s? And why did Reagan's economic plan based on free market principles fix the bad economy he inherited from the last democratic presidency. Explain those.

[Marshall]

Between Madoff and now Stanford Financial in Dallas, free markets and unregulated capitalism IS the problem.
There is more confidence in the government having control over banks than private CEOs.
If capitalist don't want to nationalize banks than why are all the capitalist bankers asking for government money?

You didn't name two free market capitalists. You named two crooks. I also wouldn't describe anyone who asks for government money as a free market capitalist.

[Wndrtch]

You didn't name two free market capitalists. You named two crooks. I also wouldn't describe anyone who asks for government money as a free market capitalist.

He forgot Franklin Raines.

Funny how Libs drag these two out, in order to put down Capitalism in support of Government central planing, but never bother to mention the crooks found in Government.

I wonder what percentage of Government officials are under criminal investigation, as it relate to ALL Government officials?

I wonder what percentage of CEO's are under criminal investigating as it relates to the private sector as a whole?

Which do you think would be a much higher percentage?

[Ruzzty]

I can probably say with a 99.9% certainty that Obama has not read, nor will ever read the bill from cover to cover.

Health care reform.... its Deja Voo? No, just SOP for this administration.

[Ruzzty]

He forgot Franklin Raines.

Funny how Libs drag these two out, in order to put down Capitalism in support of Government central planing, but never bother to mention the crooks found in Government.

I wonder what percentage of Government officials are under criminal investigation, as it relate to ALL Government officials?

I wonder what percentage of CEO's are under criminal investigating as it relates to the private sector as a whole?

Which do you think would be a much higher percentage?

Congressman (D) William Jefferson... lol. pwed

[Scot]

wow...so only tax cuts can help us and wait Pres. Bush didnt destroy the economy...i must be living in a parallel universe...last time i checked the war in iraq depleted most of our money...and lets talk about the private sector of business...they are the ones why we are in this mess..its called CORPORATE GREED..and guess whos watch it happened on? also just like with my submaine captain no matter what happens he is ultimately responisble no matter who messes up on the ship
Do you respect your submarine captain for taking responsibility? We've got an administration in the White House that refuses to take responsibility for anything they're screwing up. In the process, they're dividing the country in a way I have not seen in my entire life. They currently refer to 53% of AMERICANS as an "Angry Mob". 53% of Americans who wish to excercise their first amendment rights. We have been deemed an "Angry Mob" by Obama. This administration uses our Consititution as toilet paper.

[demalltheway]

Do you respect your submarine captain for taking responsibility? We've got an administration in the White House that refuses to take responsibility for anything they're screwing up. In the process, they're dividing the country in a way I have not seen in my entire life. They currently refer to 53% of AMERICANS as an "Angry Mob". 53% of Americans who wish to excercise their first amendment rights. We have been deemed an "Angry Mob" by Obama. This administration uses our Consititution as toilet paper.

Hey, when did Obama call you an "angry mob", I cannot find any reference to it? You do have to admit that you appear angry?

[Unicorn Mayo]

Hey, when did Obama call you an "angry mob", I cannot find any reference to it? You do have to admit that you appear angry?

What kills me is the argument that Obama has not accepted responsibility for "anything" that he has screwn up. Implying that he has screwed something up, though its not entirely clear what that something is.

[Scot]

Hey, when did Obama call you an "angry mob", I cannot find any reference to it? You do have to admit that you appear angry?
Have you heard the comercial regarding the town hall meetings? They're suggesting that people attending these meetings and voicing their oppinions about the Healthcare Bill are "an angry mob". I haven't attended any of the meetings, but those that have echo my feelings, and had I been there, I would be in this class.

[Scot]

What kills me is the argument that Obama has not accepted responsibility for "anything" that he has screwn up. Implying that he has screwed something up, though its not entirely clear what that something is.
He screwed up the Stimulus Bill. It's not producing jobs as he promised, and his administration is doing nothing about it. Instead he wants to meddle in healthcare. He's qaudrupled the nations debt in 6 months, he's trying to ram through a Healthcare Bill that by CBO numbers will do NOTHING in a decade to cut costs. He has yet to accept responsibility for anything that I can think of. He plays the blame game every chance he gets. He's focused on Cap and Tax which is sure to hurt our economy in the short term. Which is the last thing anyone needs right now. He's broken his main campaign promise by taxing cigarettes, soda, etc. He's going to have to raise income taxes to pay for all this, you're not being rational if you don't see that coming. All during a recession which he seems to have little concern for.