Commercial that promotes having affairs

[Rhonda]

This commercial is being shown on fox news channel.

http://www.break.com/usercontent/2008/7/AshleyMadison-com-Commercial-545212.html

Not only is it offensive, but I find it diisturbing that fox news channel is showing it

There has already been one commercial banned from other networks, but this one makes fun of married men with overweight wives, and shows her to be a slob...and encourages him to have an affair, and someone is getting rich off of it :mad:

[ImNewHere]

While I don't agree at all with the whole purpose of that company, and I won't be going to that website, that IS one hilarious commercial! :lol:

[Rhonda]

While I don't agree at all with the whole purpose of that company, and I won't be going to that website, that IS one hilarious commercial! :lol:


Yeah it is funny to those of us on the outside of that kind of situation, I agree.

But is also is sad to think that people are falling for this, and that peoples unhappiness is a commodity

[Mimiheart]

That's disturbing.

[ImNewHere]

That's disturbing.

I laughed at the look on the dude's face after looking at the liquor bottle and then at the woman.

We've all been there, haven't we?

[Mimiheart]

I laughed at the look on the dude's face after looking at the liquor bottle and then at the woman.

We've all been there, haven't we?No. Can't say that I have. I've never had a one night stand. And never been that drunk.

[LouC]

No. Can't say that I have. I've never had a one night stand. And never been that drunk.

Good for you.

And I have never had an affair while married.

[signcut]

Yeah it is funny to those of us on the outside of that kind of situation, I agree.

But is also is sad to think that people are falling for this, and that peoples unhappiness is a commodity

In a capitalist society, anything that can make money is a commodity. That is sort of a neutral situation; what is sad in this situation is that in order for something to be a commodity, people have to be willing to buy it...

[LouC]

Perhaps the commercial is due to the fact that the bad economy has been having a deleterious affect on extramarital affairs.

They need to advertise in prime time to bring in more traffic?

I would not be upset if it is on the Fox Network, some of the ads they play now are about to drive me bonkers.

If it knocks any sham wow or billy mays ad off the Fox rotation then Woo Hoo!

[Mimiheart]

Good for you.

And I have never had an affair while married.
I've never had an affair period. I had two boyfriends before I was married. One when I was 12-14, the other my junior year of high school.

[LouC]

I've never had an affair period. I had two boyfriends before I was married. One when I was 12-14, the other my junior year of high school.

Again good for you.

I have already incriminated myself as much as I care to at this time.

[jeepers]

Maybe they should show her eating her brains out because her husband is a jerk, and then saying 'hey, you don't have to put up with that. Put down the ho-hos, get yourself together and go have an affair with some nice guy that isn't an *******".

Not as funny, though.

[LouC]

Maybe they should show her eating her brains out because her husband is a jerk, and then saying 'hey, you don't have to put up with that. Put down the ho-hos, get yourself together and go have an affair with some nice guy that isn't an *******".

Not as funny, though.

Well in the commercial she is seen in the wedding photograph on the stairway wall as a fat slob already.

It looked like she had already eaten sufficient brains.

[FidelisAdMortem]

Awsome, Im gonna sign up and get me a married gal.

[jeepers]

Well in the commercial she is seen in the wedding photograph on the stairway wall as a fat slob already.

It looked like she had already eaten sufficient brains.

He married her at that size, so he didn't have a problem with it THEN, did he?

What does it say about him?

[wayoverthehill]

Like that husband is any prize either in the looks department!

Yeah, some hot babe is going to pick him to roll in the hay with.

NOT!

[LouC]

He married her at that size, so he didn't have a problem with it THEN, did he?

What does it say about him?

It says perhaps he should have milked the cow before buying it? :D

[LouC]

Like that husband is any prize either in the looks department!

Yeah, some hot babe is going to pick him to roll in the hay with.

NOT!

You do know that site is for men or women?

[ImNewHere]

He married her at that size, so he didn't have a problem with it THEN, did he?

What does it say about him?

It says he has a problem with alcohol.

[megs280]

He married her at that size, so he didn't have a problem with it THEN, did he?

What does it say about him?

He's a coward. A guy who would rather sneak around and live a lie rather than tell his wife how he really feels about her.

[ManOfFaith]

A company that promotes affairs? That is disturbing. The voice over sounds like the voice over guy who does a lot of Republican political commercials.

[MikeJF]

another disturbing commercial I saw the other week: Verizon commercial shows two ladies talking about who is going to get the last Verizon cell phone on sale (if only one left) when one lady says "I do" and this upsets the other lady so she shoots her friend in the throat with a large poison blow dart! The lady that was shot falls over on to the floor! Is she dead? At the end of the commercial we see she isn't dead but very disoriented.

[FidelisAdMortem]

What percentage of forum members after reading this thread, joined that site...............

[ImNewHere]

What percentage of forum members after reading this thread, joined that site...............

Did you find any prospects?

[FidelisAdMortem]

Did you find any prospects?

Yea but they seem o'so familiar, like I've spoken to them before. I cant put my finger on it.............

[MikeJF]

another shocking commercial for a software game: how can a husband get rid of an upset wife? unbelievable!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9KPR_YpuN0&feature=related

(the person who posted it at YT thinks it funny, but I dont think so)

[Lady Liberty]

If you realize you are drinking yourself to sleep and waking up next to the wrong woman every day, then a reasonable, healthy individual would choose an honorable way to change their circumstances. This ad plays to the weak-minded and character-flawed.

The ad advocates the guy could just become a sneaking scumbag. Affairs while married are tawdry and do not help solve problems going on in relationships.

Also, obese people are capable of being very loving spouses. The ad chooses to mock an obese wife as if to say that's enough reason... never mind that her cuddling him suggests she loves him. But, instead of a healthy discussion about 'what's missing' in a relationship that once was loving enough to become man and wife, the ad advocates, well - like the business logo illustrates - dropping that wedding ring for... whatever.

~

[Alaric]

We've all been there, haven't we?

Nope. Never have. I dated only the kind of women I wanted to marry and did not date women for the sake of a date who weren't the kind of woman I wanted to marry. I married a gorgeous smoldering hot brunette with a wonderful personality. That was 20 faithful and wonderful years ago.

The commercial is despicable because it advertises that happiness can be found in an affair. It cannot. And men married to gorgeous women have affairs too - sometimes with coyote ugly women, one of the world's most prominent idiots is Charles Philip Arthur George.

[ImNewHere]

Yea but they seem o'so familiar, like I've spoken to them before. I cant put my finger on it.............

Well, good luck, McLovin.

[LouC]

Wow a commercial that promotes Presidential behavior?

[birdonawire]

That commercial was so wrong in so many ways. :mad:

[NCRedState]

I married a gorgeous smoldering hot brunette with a wonderful personality. That was 20 faithful and wonderful years ago.




She is standing over your shoulder, huh? :D

[bella-day]

That commercial is awful.

Wouldn't it be ironic if they decided to make a sequel and the guy ends up with his own wife on his very first arranged meeting?:D

Meh, they probably wouldn't use that idea. It may negatively affect business.

The idea that someone has a website devoted to arranging meetings for people wanting to have extra-marital affairs is pretty disgusting.

[FidelisAdMortem]

Well, good luck, McLovin.

Giddity Giddy.

[jeepers]

He's a coward. A guy who would rather sneak around and live a lie rather than tell his wife how he really feels about her.

Nicely said. I was merely thinking that he was a loser lacking gonads.

[Pudge]

This commercial is being shown on fox news channel.

http://www.break.com/usercontent/2008/7/AshleyMadison-com-Commercial-545212.html

Not only is it offensive, but I find it diisturbing that fox news channel is showing it

There has already been one commercial banned from other networks, but this one makes fun of married men with overweight wives, and shows her to be a slob...and encourages him to have an affair, and someone is getting rich off of it :mad:

I hear this on Sirius all the time. I think the reaction to it is funny.

They also have a commercial geared towards women whose husbands are no longer attentive or in shape as well.

Do you realize, Rhonda, that you just posted an advertisement for it as well?

[Pudge]

That commercial is awful.

Wouldn't it be ironic if they decided to make a sequel and the guy ends up with his own wife on his very first arranged meeting?:D

If you like pina coladas... gettin' caught in the rain...

[mysticbeauty_nbeast]

At first..I thought this had to be some sort of web joke. Went to Google...and sure enough...web site for Ashely Madison came up...meaning..it's no joke! :rolleyes:

What fricken mooley whose married, goes and pays a web service to find some tramp to run around with? Can't he do that on his own either? :rolleyes: Is this a case of 'cheaper to keep her' syndrome? Doesn't want to pay for alimony? child support? Needs someone to wash his unmentionalbes? Wants a cook and clean without the extra benefits? Then hire a maid you moron! Geeze!

Wow...just...wow..it's all I can say to that whole mess...... you would have to be near brain dead and morally conscience dead to even think going to this web site as a good thing.

Some people...no moral compass at all! The 'me me me ' syndrome at it's fullest affect...:rolleyes:

~Mysty

[Haplo]

But is also is sad to think that people are falling for this, and that peoples unhappiness is a commodityConsidering affairs have been going on for as long as relationships have, I find it sadder to think a man is swayed one way or the other by a commercial.

If you're someone that's just looking for encouragement to do what you already want to do, then anything and everything can serve as the justification.

However for those of us who would never cheat, this commercial is powerless. Show it to me 24/7 for years and it won't convince me to cheat.

[LouC]

Considering affairs have been going on for as long as relationships have, I find it sadder to think a man is swayed one way or the other by a commercial.

If you're someone that's just looking for encouragement to do what you already want to do, then anything and everything can serve as the justification.

However for those of us who would never cheat, this commercial is powerless. Show it to me 24/7 for years and it won't convince me to cheat.

It is not just a site for men, not by any means.

[Haplo]

It is not just a site for men, not by any means.I didn't bother looking at the site or I would have known that

[LouC]

I didn't bother looking at the site or I would have known that

Actually I looked into them a little and discovered that.

The company is owned by a Canadian.

They have been causing a stir with controversial billboards from San Diego to New York and with other ads for a while now.

CNN has had at least two OMG the morality of it all segments with the owner that were aired.

Helen Degeneres spoofed them on her show.

They reportedly have over 2.5 million signed on members so far.

[FidelisAdMortem]

They reportedly have over 2.5 million signed on members so far.

Which means obviously the sanctity of marriage is at stake.

While millions cheat on their significant others in heterosexual marriages, we must keep up the good fight against loving homosexual marriages.

[LouC]

Which means obviously the sanctity of marriage is at stake.

While millions cheat on their significant others in heterosexual marriages, we must keep up the good fight against loving homosexual marriages.

What makes you think all the 2.5 is only interested in hetero affairs?

[FidelisAdMortem]

What makes you think all the 2.5 is only interested in hetero affairs?

So 2 out of 2.5 are..........if we are to conclude probability of straight vs gay with current straight vs gay rates of couples in this country. I'll give 500,000 right off the bat to ya that they are gays, which I dont believe but i'll give you that. 2 million left over. Great sanctity of marriage we have here.

[LouC]

So 2 out of 2.5 are..........if we are to conclude probability of straight vs gay with current straight vs gay rates of couples in this country. I'll give 500,000 right off the bat to ya that they are gays, which I dont believe but i'll give you that. 2 million left over. Great sanctity of marriage we have here.

That this site having 2.5 million members can be used as an argument for gay marriage or an argument for the myth of the sanctity of straight marriage is just silly.

All the people that truly hold to the sanctity of marriage in word and deed would never be members of that site.

[FidelisAdMortem]

That this site having 2.5 million members can be used as an argument for gay marriage or an argument for the myth of the sanctity of straight marriage is just silly.

All the people that truly hold to the sanctity of marriage in word and deed would never be members of that site.

Yet those people are allowed to legally marry.

[LouC]

Yet those people are allowed to legally marry.

And?

[wayoverthehill]

You do know that site is for men or women?I didn't check it out. I'm only going off the commercial that was shown and the husband was no prize.

Do you mean that you can advertise for a same-sex affair?

Double EWWWWWW.

[FidelisAdMortem]

And?

Such vile people in the opinions of many on this board are afforded the right to legally marry, but others aren't. Just saying.

And? And? Thats so obnoxious. And? And?

[wayoverthehill]

Which means obviously the sanctity of marriage is at stake.

While millions cheat on their significant others in heterosexual marriages, we must keep up the good fight against loving homosexual marriages.Married or not, do you believe that homosexuals who are in committed relationships do not cheat?

Some do.

[LouC]

Such vile people in the opinions of many on this board are afforded the right to legally marry, but others aren't. Just saying.

And? And? Thats so obnoxious. And? And?

Sorry, I was not aware you considered And? to be obnoxious, I will not annoy further.

So then why would non vile people be so desperate to adorn the affectations of such vile people?

Wouldn't the sanctity of their relationship alone suffice for them that they might eschew such a false mantle of devotion that is a marriage certificate or license?

FYI, I believe any couple should be treated as a couple with full rights under the law by the mere act of putting the others name on documents such as insurance policies etc.

[FidelisAdMortem]

Married or not, do you believe that homosexuals who are in committed relationships do not cheat?

Some do.

Obviously. However 50% of marriages end in divorce. That rises significantly depending on the profession of the individuals involved in those marrages. With so much talk about sanctity of marriages and keeping it as such as a reason to not allow homosexuals to marry, it seems to slip my mind how we can allow any group of people to marry when half of those marriages end in the sin of divorce.

[PeterGriffin]

I didn't check it out. I'm only going off the commercial that was shown and the husband was no prize.

Do you mean that you can advertise for a same-sex affair?

Double EWWWWWW.

I took the liberty of finding you a boy toy on Hannidate :D

http://web1.hannity.com/hannidate/index.php?page=view_profile&id=820

[Talk2Bill]

at least it is not a quickly divorce site. :))

[LouC]

at least it is not a quickly divorce site. :))

"quickly" divorce site, :think:

Faster yer honor I'm double parked.

[Rhonda]

I hear this on Sirius all the time. I think the reaction to it is funny.

I know there are and have been personals and other types of internet adds for these kinds of things, the main point in my OP, is that fox news is showing it, I was quite shocked by that alone

They also have a commercial geared towards women whose husbands are no longer attentive or in shape as well.

Duh, no kidding

Do you realize, Rhonda, that you just posted an advertisement for it as well?

So what? Many of us post articles and such that we do not like or agree with. Your point?

[Rhonda]

Considering affairs have been going on for as long as relationships have, I find it sadder to think a man is swayed one way or the other by a commercial.

If you're someone that's just looking for encouragement to do what you already want to do, then anything and everything can serve as the justification.

However for those of us who would never cheat, this commercial is powerless. Show it to me 24/7 for years and it won't convince me to cheat.

Commercials are designed to sway/persuade

[LouC]

I know there are and have been personals and other types of internet adds for these kinds of things, the main point in my OP, is that fox news is showing it, I was quite shocked by that alone



Duh, no kidding



So what? Many of us post articles and such that we do not like or agree with. Your point?

I am not surprised if it is a Fox News ad.

But are we positive it is a Fox News and not a local market ad that gets run along with network ads?

I know I have heard posters complain about ads that run during Rush's show that are local market and not ads that he has endorsed.

Is that a remote possibility?

Of course Fox News is considered the hoochie coochie network by some lefties, with a whole anti Fox News website devoted to exposing Fox News's exposures. :D

[ScottFree]

Yeah,
I heard about this business a few weeks back. They want to run and ad in the Super Bowl Program guide as well. No word weather or not their request has been granted, but the NFL has gotten a lot of negative feed back on giving them ad space. as they should. The NFL is a family oriented form of sports entertainment. That program is distributed nationwide. People who never actually attended the game purchase those programs, thus a million or so children will see that program. Very inappropriate.

Go to the link and you will see a copy of the proposed ad they wish to place. I refuse to post it here:


http://www.inquisitr.com/7914/ashleymadisoncom-who-are-you-doing-after-super-bowl/

AshleyMadison.com: who are you doing after Super Bowl?

Super Bowl advertising gets interesting this year, with Ashley Madison.com taking a full page ad in the Super Bowl Program. AshleyMadison.com proves that there is a market for just about everything by matching married people, or those in committed relationships who want to have an affair.
AshleyMadson.com established in 2001, has the classy slogan “Life is Short, Have an Affair”. Unbelievably, the site claims to have 2.8 million members, and charges $249 for its services.
Predictably, news of the ad is stirring interest and offense, which is exactly what its supposed to do. There is no doubt the service and the website which seeks to make cheating on your partner normal, and socially acceptable is gross, but outrageous? I am not sure. Are we outraged? Do we care that a sleazy service is marketing itself to a bunch of sleazy guys? You tell us.

[Rhonda]

I am not surprised if it is a Fox News ad.

But are we positive it is a Fox News and not a local market ad that gets run along with network ads?

I know I have heard posters complain about ads that run during Rush's show that are local market and not ads that he has endorsed.

Is that a remote possibility?

Of course Fox News is considered the hoochie coochie network by some lefties, with a whole anti Fox News website devoted to exposing Fox News's exposures. :D

Yeah, I suppose you are right. I did not even think of the local market.

Still, it is sad and kind of sickening

[ImNewHere]

I took the liberty of finding you a boy toy on Hannidate :D

http://web1.hannity.com/hannidate/index.php?page=view_profile&id=820

You find one for her but not for me?

I see how it is now.

[ScottFree]

Well, after googling the subject, it appears the NFL has indeed granted this sleezeball company it's ad space. At least now you will know where to look for your Super Bowl 43 progam should it go missing. Under your 9 year old's mattress, between your wife's Glamour magazine and the Sears catalog.

[LouC]

Well, after googling the subject, it appears the NFL has indeed granted this sleezeball company it's ad space. At least now you will know where to look for your Super Bowl 43 progam should it go missing. Under your 9 year old's mattress, between your wife's Glamour magazine and the Sears catalog.

Super Bowl Program Ashley Madison Ad LINK (http://static.ashleymadison.com/site/images/v2/public/media/program_superbowl.jpg)

Can anyone honestly tell me that attire in the ad at the link above is any more revealing than that worn by the dozens of curvacious cuties each team has cavorting on the field in suggestive moves called cheerleading?

There is only one difference.

The text of the ad.

[Polkfan]

But is also is sad to think that people are falling for this, and that peoples unhappiness is a commodity

Has been for centuries.

[wayoverthehill]

I took the liberty of finding you a boy toy on Hannidate :D

http://web1.hannity.com/hannidate/index.php?page=view_profile&id=820Oh goody! I have always wanted to date someone who is the same age as my son.

I'm not sure how I'm going to explain this to my husband though.

It was sweet of you to think of me:hug:

If you come to the Dallas meetup I can thank you in person AND more fully..................

[wayoverthehill]

You find one for her but not for me?

I see how it is now.Maybe he wants you for himself?

(I'm not sure who has been insulted more by that possibility):D

[johnrocks]

lol, just filling a "niche market" for people that are cheaters or have a tendency to cheat anyway.

[traditional_woman]

I don't think FOX aired this.

[Talk2Bill]

Commercials are designed to sway/persuade

oh yeah. some will make the excuse, well they were thinking of it to begin with. Well so what?

I am sure some woman have thought of pulling an Andrea Yates (not that child murder is the same as cheating) but that doesn't mean there should be a helpful hints web site.

[LouC]

oh yeah. some will make the excuse, well they were thinking of it to begin with. Well so what?

I am sure some woman have thought of pulling an Andrea Yates (not that child murder is the same as cheating) but that doesn't mean there should be a helpful hints web site.

I understand what you are saying but every match making website can have marrieds looking for affairs.

At least Ashley Madison is up front with it and cuts through the pretending.

[Talk2Bill]

I understand what you are saying but every match making website can have marrieds looking for affairs.

yeah and there are sites about all kids of legitimate things that could be used for immoral or even illegal acts.

At least Ashley Madison is up front with it and cuts through the pretending.

So because they are up front with their home wrecking intentions it is more excusable? And it is not so much the web site, there is all kinds of despicable web sites, it is the fact that they are able to buy air time. And the list of shows they sponsor is proof that those programs have zero interest in any form of family values.

[LouC]

yeah and there are sites about all kids of legitimate things that could be used for immoral or even illegal acts.

Yes there are so why target just one?

So because they are up front with their home wrecking intentions it is more excusable?

Did I say I excuse them?

And it is not so much the web site, there is all kinds of despicable web sites, it is the fact that they are able to buy air time.

Why shouldn't they be able to buy air time, they have not broken the law.

And the list of shows they sponsor is proof that those programs have zero interest in any form of family values.

Who is this "they" you speak of?

That part doesn't quite make sense to me?

[foxgurrrl]

There was a commercial - 501 jeans or something like that... two young kids bust into this apartment and are telling each other they lied about all these things. Then, pan to a photo of a black family and the girl says, "I lied, this isn't really my apartment."

I found that commercial offensive. Promoting breaking and entering, along with lying. The one night stand thing - that's up to the individual(s).

[Talk2Bill]

Yes there are so why target just one?

because this one is the subject of this topic AND it advertised on TV.

Did I say I excuse them?

Not directly but to pass it off as being in their heads already does mitigate it and is part of the normalization of immorality.

Why shouldn't they be able to buy air time, they have not broken the law.

that was a criticism of those that sell the time.

Who is this "they" you speak of?

the web site has a list of "as seen on." some of the names are surprising to say the least.

That part doesn't quite make sense to me?

go to the web site and look for the list of shows the ad as run on or been featured on.

[Pudge]

I know there are and have been personals and other types of internet adds for these kinds of things, the main point in my OP, is that fox news is showing it, I was quite shocked by that alone

I wouldn't have expected it on Fox News, but they are a business, and sponsors are what drives them. Personally, I think it's great that an ad that offends a good chunk of their viewers aired, take the wind right out of their self-righteous sails.

Many of us post articles and such that we do not like or agree with. Your point?

You just gave them a huge plug. Had you just rolled your eyes and not posted, we wouldn't be discussing this, and people who come here wouldn't be going to AshleyMadison.com to see what it's all about.

You might be the impetus that causes an extramarital affair. Smile!

[LouC]

Because this one is the subject of this topic AND it advertised on TV.

Well then what was the point of pointing out there are other bad sites?

You confuse. :think:

Not directly but to pass it off as being in their heads already does mitigate it and is part of the normalization of immorality.

Sorry to burst your bubble but immoral behavior is normal and has been for a very long time.

No that is not me excusing it.

That was a criticism of those that sell the time.

Why shouldn't they be able to sell the air time if it is not breaking the law?

The companies have payrolls to meet and need the revenues and have a fiscal and according to some a moral duty to look out for their business and employees and share holders.

The web site has a list of "as seen on." Some of the names are surprising to say the least.

Very little surprises me.

But I was surprised at the brouhaha that has erupted over their billboard ads where ever they have been put up.

Considering some of the stuff that I have seen in 15' by 45' public displays in the past that really surprised me.

Go to the web site and look for the list of shows the ad as run on or been featured on.

That list is, As Seen On, shown hanging on the door placard at their website is a list of programs that have done spoofs or discussions of their ads and their website.

Like the Ellen Degeneres Show spoof which I mentioned yesterday.

They didn’t mention on the door placard that CNN had featured them on both Larry King and their CNN Headline News?

[Pudge]

The NFL is a family oriented form of sports entertainment.

:rolleyes:

That program is distributed nationwide. People who never actually attended the game purchase those programs, thus a million or so children will see that program. Very inappropriate.

Then be a parent and don't let your kid see that ad. Stop trying to make EVERYTHING child-safe.

Predictably, news of the ad is stirring interest and offense, which is exactly what its supposed to do. There is no doubt the service and the website which seeks to make cheating on your partner normal, and socially acceptable is gross, but outrageous? I am not sure. Are we outraged? Do we care that a sleazy service is marketing itself to a bunch of sleazy guys? You tell us.

It's also marketing itself to women too, and affairs have been happening since the dawn of mankind. You are acting as if adultery started in 2001 when this website was launched.

[Pudge]

oh yeah. some will make the excuse, well they were thinking of it to begin with. Well so what?

I am sure some woman have thought of pulling an Andrea Yates (not that child murder is the same as cheating) but that doesn't mean there should be a helpful hints web site.

I get that a lot of people don't like the website and it's understandable, to an extent, but even if it didn't exist, there are many others across the internet, and then there are the good old fashioned ways that people cheat on their spouses or significant others. You shouldn't be outraged that there is a website that caters to cheaters and cuts to the chase. You should be outraged at the person who is cheating no matter what medium they use to do it. And then maybe, if you're the one who is cheated on, you need to ask yourself why they went outside the marriage or relationship. Maybe *you* are not giving your partner what they need, physically, sexually, emotionally. Guys, if you spend more time looking at porn than you do your wife, don't be surprised if she ends up with someone who makes HER feel attractive and wanted. Girls, if you constantly "have a headache" and you haven't given your man attentions for months on end, there's a good chance he will jump if someone puts a move on him. It doesn't make it right to cheat but there are reasons why people do, and it boils down to not feeling loved and wanted by your partner, it's not JUST that the cheater is evil or selfish or whatever.

[Pudge]

So because they are up front with their home wrecking intentions it is more excusable?

Who is the homewrecker? The guy who cheats or the website he met his mistress on? If there were no websites like this, would you hold the nightclub or office responsible for the guy's decision to cheat on his wife?

And it is not so much the web site, there is all kinds of despicable web sites, it is the fact that they are able to buy air time. And the list of shows they sponsor is proof that those programs have zero interest in any form of family values.

The hell with 'family values'. THAT'S RIGHT, I SAID IT. It is not the job of the media or advertising or private industry to boost or support your 'family values'. That is YOUR job as a member of a family.

I am sick to death of people advocating the elimination of freedom in the name of 'family values'. If 'family values' cannot withstand the occasional distasteful expression of liberty then they aren't very valuable and should be replaced.

[Talk2Bill]

The choice to accept the money to run the ad comes with consequences. Public opinion is more important that laws. There legal right to exist and advertise as well as the legal right to accept the money for said ads not relevant to my right to speak out against it.

It is not as some will argue a free speech issue. It is an issue of standing up or against something or not. It is about moral strength vs moral weakness.

If you can not see that this sight servers to break up families or if you make the excuse their clients are the guilty ones then you seem to me to misunderstand their roll in process. It is no different morally from a site that tell you how to make bombs or poison gas or how one might get away with a crime.

And to say anything of the sort that there are worst web sites or it is nothing new or that their clients are going to cheat anyway IS making excuses for it.

Sites like this, especially, when condoned by mainstream media and entertainers servers to normalize this kind of behavior at the expense of morals and decency.

It is one of those either you see it or you do not I suppose.

[LouC]

This commercial is being shown on fox news channel.

http://www.break.com/usercontent/2008/7/AshleyMadison-com-Commercial-545212.html

Not only is it offensive, but I find it diisturbing that fox news channel is showing it

There has already been one commercial banned from other networks, but this one makes fun of married men with overweight wives, and shows her to be a slob...and encourages him to have an affair, and someone is getting rich off of it :mad:

Okay after more looking into this do you have the proof that Fox News is "running" this ad or just did a news story on the ad, another news story about the Company?

The AshleyMadison.com has put on their web site the statement "as featured on" followed by a list of the programs and news stations that have done a story on them.

[Talk2Bill]

Who is the homewrecker? The guy who cheats or the website he met his mistress on? If there were no websites like this, would you hold the nightclub or office responsible for the guy's decision to cheat on his wife?

anything that by its design makes it easier is morally responsible.


The hell with 'family values'. THAT'S RIGHT, I SAID IT. It is not the job of the media or advertising or private industry to boost or support your 'family values'. That is YOUR job as a member of a family.

I have just as much right to voice my opposition to this as they have to present it.

I am sick to death of people advocating the elimination of freedom in the name of 'family values'.

so my right to free speech is less important? is that REALLY where you draw the line?


If 'family values' cannot withstand the occasional distasteful expression of liberty then they aren't very valuable and should be replaced.

once again i feel you have not read what I am saying. It is interesting that you would take my opinion that all involved with this site ought to be ashamed and that the fact that they accept the money for this kind of thing speaks to their morals as anything other than that. I do not like it. AND those that accept the money and run these ads lose creditability.


To defend it in the name of free speech is one thing. To make excuses to attempt to mitigate it by pointing to other bad examples is another. Even worst is ANY suggestion that people do not have the right to voice their opinion on the site and its ads.

[Talk2Bill]

Okay after more looking into this do you have the proof that Fox News is "running" this ad or just did a news story on the ad, another news story about the Company?

yeah I do not thing any proof of that was offered.

The AshleyMadison.com has put on their web site the statement "as featured on" followed by a list of the programs and news stations that have done a story on them.

that list is what I am getting at as far as those that put them selves out there as being helpful to people. Even if they are mostly entertainment the all offer self help and they all address the everyday problems we go through. As such they have a responsibility to support people by not condoning cheating.

I did not, however, take into account the TONE of the coverage. I supposed it could have been negative.

[FidelisAdMortem]

I was about to sign up and get me some married tail, then I found out they wanted like 200+ dollars for that. Forget that. I'll just walk around in my uniform at the supermarket, plenty of married lonely females for the taking.

Mwahahahahahahahaha.

[Pudge]

The choice to accept the money to run the ad comes with consequences. Public opinion is more important that laws. There legal right to exist and advertise as well as the legal right to accept the money for said ads not relevant to my right to speak out against it.

Nobody is saying you can't speak out against it, but you want it banished from the public square, and that's a bit different than just saying "I disagree".

It is not as some will argue a free speech issue. It is an issue of standing up or against something or not. It is about moral strength vs moral weakness.

It's not a free speech issue until someone advocates using the police power of government to force them out of existence or get their ads banned from the media. A private company can decline any ad they wish and it's not violating free speech, but the minute you get the government involved, it is.

If you can not see that this sight servers to break up families or if you make the excuse their clients are the guilty ones then you seem to me to misunderstand their roll in process. It is no different morally from a site that tell you how to make bombs or poison gas or how one might get away with a crime.

The site serves to make a profit off of an immoral but legal activity, and their clients bear all of the guilt. They choose to cheat on their spouses. Comparing it to a site that tells people how to make bombs that are then used to kill people is absurd. Are gun manufacturers morally responsible for gun deaths? Are automakers responsible for traffic accident deaths? You could make the case- people don't go hunting with an AR-15 and they don't use a 400-horsepower car for commuting purposes. If you market something that has the capability of hurting someone else if it's misused, are you responsible when that misuse results in disaster? And before you even say it- not every marriage has a closed-door policy. Some of Ashley Madison's clients use their service with the blessings, or at least indifference, of their spouse.

And to say anything of the sort that there are worst web sites or it is nothing new or that their clients are going to cheat anyway IS making excuses for it.

Acknowledging that something exists is excusing it now?

Sites like this, especially, when condoned by mainstream media and entertainers servers to normalize this kind of behavior at the expense of morals and decency.

How about you practice your morals and be as decent as you can, and let others do the same? If the ad offends you, don't watch the channel it airs on. I still think you're shooting the messenger, though. This site wouldn't exist if there weren't a couple million people willing to use it, and that is why they have the money to buy ads on Fox and in the Super Bowl program.

It is one of those either you see it or you do not I suppose.

Sorry, I forgot to genuflect in the presence of the morally enlightened. [/sarcasm]

[Talk2Bill]

Nobody is saying you can't speak out against it, but you want it banished from the public square, and that's a bit different than just saying "I disagree".

where did i say anything of that sort?


It's not a free speech issue until someone advocates using the police power of government to force them out of existence or get their ads banned from the media.

was that suggested?

A private company can decline any ad they wish and it's not violating free speech, but the minute you get the government involved, it is.

when did i ever mention government get involved?


SNIP (was too long and not really anything i need to reply too)



Acknowledging that something exists is excusing it now?

not what i suggested.


How about you practice your morals and be as decent as you can, and let others do the same?

that is what I am doing. It just so happens my morals lead me to speak out against this kind of thing.

If the ad offends you, don't watch the channel it airs on.

I can do more that that. I can publicly protest it. But rest assured this forum is as far as I am likely to take it.

I still think you're shooting the messenger, though.

No, by taking the money those outlets are supporting the cause. If they do not what to be lumped in with that kind of issue they should not accept the money. Once they do they are subject to critizims.

This site wouldn't exist if there weren't a couple million people willing to use it, and that is why they have the money to buy ads on Fox and in the Super Bowl program.

not relevant.

Sorry, I forgot to genuflect in the presence of the morally enlightened.

I am sorry if speaking in terms of moral and immoral offend you. :))

[Pudge]

anything that by its design makes it easier is morally responsible.

Addressed in previous post. By that logic, gun manufacturers who make assault rifles are morally responsible every time they're used in a murder.

I have just as much right to voice my opposition to this as they have to present it.

Where did I say otherwise? I just said that I'm sick of the 'family values' canard. It's a code word for the advocation of censorship and anything that offends religious conservatives. It is YOUR responsibility to raise your child and it is not a responsible act to demand that everything in society be geared towards making your job as a parent easier.

so my right to free speech is less important? is that REALLY where you draw the line?

I'm not even coming close to trying to muzzle you. Stop playing the martyr. I said: "I am sick to death of people advocating the elimination of freedom in the name of 'family values'." Tell me where, in any of that, do you get that I am saying you have no free speech. I am saying that your right to free speech, to be able to disagree, ends there. You have no right to attempt to use your freedom to curttail the liberty of others because you don't like how it's expressed.

It is interesting that you would take my opinion that all involved with this site ought to be ashamed and that the fact that they accept the money for this kind of thing speaks to their morals as anything other than that. I do not like it. AND those that accept the money and run these ads lose creditability.

You have a right to that opinion and to express it, and to not support any station that airs the ad. I find it laughable that you expect gant media conglomerates to have 'morals', though. They don't. Individuals have morals, collective entities do not. The purpose of the corporation is to make a profit. You can howl all you want but until your howling affects their bottom line, they won't listen to you.

To defend it in the name of free speech is one thing. To make excuses to attempt to mitigate it by pointing to other bad examples is another. Even worst is ANY suggestion that people do not have the right to voice their opinion on the site and its ads.

I made no such suggestion.

I simply called you on the 'family values' peaen. I hate it when people revert to that dusty old relic, or 'the chiiiiiiiiiiiiiiidlren, what about the chiiiiiiiiiiiiiildren.' To hell with the children too. I don't want to live in a G-rated society, or even a PG-rated one. It's not my job to curb my behavior and my likes and dislikes and my expressions of freedom (or anyone elses) so that it makes it easier for you to raise your kids. And if it's just you that's offended, then, to paraphrase George Carlin, there are TWO KNOBS on the TV- one of them turns it off, and another one actually changes the station! Imagine that?

[BasicGreatGuy]

This commercial is being shown on fox news channel.

http://www.break.com/usercontent/2008/7/AshleyMadison-com-Commercial-545212.html

Not only is it offensive, but I find it diisturbing that fox news channel is showing it

There has already been one commercial banned from other networks, but this one makes fun of married men with overweight wives, and shows her to be a slob...and encourages him to have an affair, and someone is getting rich off of it :mad:

A pathetic commercial.

[Pudge]

where did i say anything of that sort?

You didn't. Never said you did. It's just that whenever someone invokes 'family values' it ends up leading to this sort of thing

when did i ever mention government get involved?

You made it a free speech issue by claiming that I was saying you should be silenced. I simply clarified that it's not a free speech issue until the government starts getting involved.

that is what I am doing. It just so happens my morals lead me to speak out against this kind of thing.

I can do more that that. I can publicly protest it. But rest assured this forum is as far as I am likely to take it.

I wouldn't care if you took it to Fox HQ.

by taking the money those outlets are supporting the cause. If they do not what to be lumped in with that kind of issue they should not accept the money. Once they do they are subject to critizims.

More guilt by association, I thought we had gotten past this, but alas, we have not.

I am sorry if speaking in terms of moral and immoral offend you. :))

That doesn't offend me at all. I have morals too, I just don't pontificate about them.

[Joeybear23]

I read yesterday that 80+% of married couples that describe their relationships as good did not engage in premarital sex.

Just thought this was interesting...

[LouC]

I read yesterday that 80+% of married couples that describe their relationships as good did not engage in premarital sex.

Just thought this was interesting...

Premarital sex with their spouses or premarital sex period.

I would think if it is the latter that it would be because you just don't have any way to guage that the sex with your spouse is really lousy.

So you are going through life fat, or not, but definitely dumb and happy.

[terri910]

I would think if it is the latter that it would be because you just don't have any way to guage that the sex with your spouse is really lousy.

I disagree. I believe it isn't too difficult to figure out if the sex you are having is great, good, or lousy. Even one time.

[Alaric]

She is standing over your shoulder, huh? :D

Nope. I think my wife is one of the five best looking women I have ever seen - I consider myself very lucky. Which might explain my low post count and rate. ;)

Makes me really wonder about those who have post rates over 20/day.

[Joeybear23]

Premarital sex with their spouses or premarital sex period.

I would think if it is the latter that it would be because you just don't have any way to guage that the sex with your spouse is really lousy.

So you are going through life fat, or not, but definitely dumb and happy.

With their spouses.

Couples that waited with each other.

[Joeybear23]

I disagree. I believe it isn't too difficult to figure out if the sex you are having is great, good, or lousy. Even one time.

I have a hard time believing two strangers could possibly have great sex. There are some things only years of practice with each other can effectively produce...

[Alaric]

I disagree. I believe it isn't too difficult to figure out if the sex you are having is great, good, or lousy. Even one time.

:clap:

Its only difficult for idiots.

[mrclean]

I disagree. I believe it isn't too difficult to figure out if the sex you are having is great, good, or lousy. Even one time.


Sex is like New York pizza. When it's good it's really good and when it's not so good, it's still pretty good.

I can't ever remember having bad sex.

[Alaric]

I read yesterday that 80+% of married couples that describe their relationships as good did not engage in premarital sex.

Just thought this was interesting...

Which if you think about it is a good reason to wait.

Lets see, a few years of bachelorhood scoring maybe once a month for a few months with long spells between, followed by 20 years of poor marriage, scoring once a month with occasional long spells between, tapering off to only once or twice a year as the marriage deteriorates through its last half decade, followed by divorce somewhere in late 40's to early 50's, and only getting it after that when you pay for it.

or...

Chaste dating followed by a happy marriage that lasts for decades with sex 3-6 times a week between a man and a woman who really know each other, love each other, and want to please each other.

Its a no brainer for anyone who thinks with his big head.

[Samm]

Sex is like New York pizza. When it's good it's really good and when it's not so good, it's still pretty good.

I can't ever remember having bad sex.

:) Reminds me of a saying we had in college:

"There is no such thing as a bad piece of ass... just some are better than others."

Ah youth... :neutral:

[terri910]

Its a no brainer for anyone who thinks with his big head.
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[FidelisAdMortem]

Some of you are so uptight. Live alittle. Let your hair down.

[Alaric]

Some of you are so uptight. Live alittle. Let your hair down.

You won't find happiness in chasing kittens.

[terri910]

What is uptight, and NOT living a LOT, about having great sex whenever we want? :eh:

[ConstitutionHugger]

Nope. I think my wife is one of the five best looking women I have ever seen - I consider myself very lucky. Which might explain my low post count and rate. ;)

Makes me really wonder about those who have post rates over 20/day.

I know how you feel, My Wife Is one of the best looking women I have seen, Which might explain why the only time i post is when it is slow here at work and not when i am at home

[FidelisAdMortem]

You won't find happiness in chasing kittens.

I chase cougars, not kittens. HOLLA!

[Claymore]

Bad ad, inpropper premiss.

[budjaz]

omg!! i can't believe this is a real commercial!!!!

[FidelisAdMortem]

What is uptight, and NOT living a LOT, about having great sex whenever we want? :eh:

Let your hair down, terri.

[LouC]

I disagree. I believe it isn't too difficult to figure out if the sex you are having is great, good, or lousy. Even one time.

You are right.

If the only car you have ever owned and driven and ridden in is a rusted out yugo with one bad valve and bald tires you are very likely to be under the impression it is the best car ever.

But you really have no way to tell because it is the only car you can guage a cars performance against.

Now on rainy days your yugo isn't as good as on dry days becasue the tires are bald and it tends to skid.

Then when you have a strong tail wind it goes a lot faster and that means you can safely pass that donkey cart.

But if the wind is against you you can't.

So yeah you can guage the performance of your yugo against "your yugo" and know when it is good or bad or teriffic, absolutely you can.

But you have no idea what so ever how to guage what the drive would be like to slip into a new Mercedes and go for a spin now would you?

[Stardust]

Typical example of "instant gratification" mindlessness.

Notice there is no picture of a child or children who may be devastated by this behavior. No sign of any offense to God or that your spouse would be offended. Just go ahead......do what you want, no thought involved - idiotcy.

[FidelisAdMortem]

Typical example of "instant gratification" mindlessness.

Notice there is no picture of a child or children who may be devastated by this behavior. No sign of any offense to God or that your spouse would be offended. Just go ahead......do what you want, no thought involved idiotcy.

Thats the american dream.

[LouC]

<snip> Makes me really wonder about those who have post rates over 20/day.

Spouse lives in Idaho I live in Illinois.

We stay friendly because we are still each others best friend.

We stay married for financial reasons.

[terri910]

You are right.

If the only car you have ever owned and driven and ridden in is a rusted out yugo with onebad valve and bald tires you are very likely to be under the impression it is the best car ever.

But you really have no way to tell because it is the only car you can guage a cars performance against.

Now on rainy days your yugo isn't as good as on dry days becasue the tires are bald and it tends to skid.

Then when you have a strong tail wind it goes a lot faster and that means you can safely pass that donkey cart.

But if the wind is against you you can't.

So yeah you can guage the performance of your yugo against "your yugo" and know when it is good or bad or teriffic, absolutely you can.

But you have no idea what so ever how to guage what the drive would be like to slip into a new Mercedes and go for a spin now would you?
psssst. Sex isn't driving a car. *LOL* At least it isn't, if it's ever going to be anything more than you just taking a ride and seeing what your car can do for YOU.

The wonderful thing about sex is that you and your "yugo" can communicate and experiment and adjust. You design your own "ride" together.

Ahem. :angel:

If your car is only a "yugo" you have to take some responsibility for bad design.

[Stardust]

Thats the american dream.

And that is why we are in the state we are in.

[FidelisAdMortem]

Spouse lives in Idaho I live in Illinois.

We stay friendly because we are still each others best friend.

We stay married for financial reasons.

Wow, thats nuts.

[Pudge]

I read yesterday that 80+% of married couples that describe their relationships as good did not engage in premarital sex.

Just thought this was interesting...

No offense, they just don't know if their spouse is good in bed or not. Maybe it's not all that important to them.

[FidelisAdMortem]

And that is why we are in the state we are in.

Yea, people having sex is the reason our economy is falling apart, and crime is on the upswing.

Its all about sex..................STOP SEX, MARKET GOES UP!

[LouC]

psssst. Sex isn't driving a car. *LOL* At least it isn't, if it's ever going to be anything more than you just taking a ride and seeing what your car can do for YOU.

The wonderful thing about sex is that you and your "yugo" can communicate and experiment and adjust. You design your own "ride" together.

Ahem. :angel:

If your car is only a "yugo" you have to take some responsibility for bad design.

Experience is relevant.

If all you ever had was a cake from the same recipe how would you know you have had the best cake recipe.

You could only judge that one recipe against itself.

Each time you use the same ingredients in the same manner over and over again.

But today the humidity might have been different or the eggs may have been fresher so their are slight variations to the cake but it is still the same cake and you have no idea if it is the best cake cause you never made any other.

It could be a really crummy cake but you don't know because you can only judge that cake against that cake.

[LouC]

Yea, people having sex is the reason our economy is falling apart, and crime is on the upswing.

Its all about sex..................STOP SEX, MARKET GOES UP!

Well shoot I are doing my part... :frown: :flag: Woo Hoo!

[Pudge]

I disagree. I believe it isn't too difficult to figure out if the sex you are having is great, good, or lousy. Even one time.

Yes, but it's all relative, you see?

If a person waits till marriage and has sex on their wedding night and it's not very good, then perhaps they will conclude that this is just how it is and those who talk about how great sex is are exaggerating.

[LouC]

Wow, thats nuts.

Why?

[Pudge]

I have a hard time believing two strangers could possibly have great sex. There are some things only years of practice with each other can effectively produce...

True, but if you're not getting that practice because your spouse becomes frigid then you will end up on Ashley Madison sooner or later...

[Pudge]

I chase cougars, not kittens. HOLLA!

Cougars are just unsettling. I have a 24-year-old friend who goes to cougar bars, he swears by them.

[Alaric]

...STOP SEX, MARKET GOES UP!

Stock market to crash on Feb 17, 2009. :D

[terri910]

Experience is relevant.

If all you ever had was a cake from the same recipe how would you know you have had the best cake recipe.

You could only judge that one recipe against itself.

Each time you use the same ingredients in the same manner over and over again.

But today the humidity might have been different or the eggs may have been fresher so their are slight variations to the cake but it is still the same cake and you have no idea if it is the best cake cause you never made any other.

It could be a really crummy cake but you don't know because you can only judge that cake against that cake.
You are the chef...the CREATOR of the recipe. Why would you use the same ingredients in the same manner over and over again?

Experience definitely is relevant. But you do not have to experience every person to experience -- and know you've experienced -- great sex. And unless you plan on experiencing EVERY person you are NEVER going to know if you've had "the best sex."

Now, maybe that would bug you not to know. For me, if I'm having cake....really good cake. And often to-die-for cake. I'm just not that worried that, oh gosh, maybe I haven't tasted everything.

Your cake analogy is interesting. It's just weird to me that anyone would think they wouldn't know what tastes really good, whether they've ever tasted it before or not.

[Pudge]

Typical example of "instant gratification" mindlessness.

Notice there is no picture of a child or children who may be devastated by this behavior. No sign of any offense to God or that your spouse would be offended. Just go ahead......do what you want, no thought involved - idiotcy.

Oh, I am sure there's lots of thought involved. People don't wake up and decide to have an affair. There are reasons why people cheat that have nothing to do with instant gratification.

As for God... well... ummm... according to the lovely tale told around this time of year, he was technically the 'other man' when he impregnated Mary, who was married at the time. So, yeah.

[terri910]

Yes, but it's all relative, you see?

If a person waits till marriage and has sex on their wedding night and it's not very good, then perhaps they will conclude that this is just how it is and those who talk about how great sex is are exaggerating.
Well, I don't believe people should marry idiots, so.....

*LOL*

[Joeybear23]

No offense, they just don't know if their spouse is good in bed or not. Maybe it's not all that important to them.

What would be the point of "playing the field"?
If both strive to satisfy each other and they get better at it as they practice, what does it matter that someone else may or may not have more experience in that area?
I think the study was more of an indicator of married couples finding love and happiness in each other outside of sex alone. Relationships based heavily on sex are doomed to fail because they are focused on pleasing themselves rather than each other. If a relationship can thrive before marriage with the absence of sex, it's a good indicator that it will last.

[terri910]

Relationships based heavily on sex are doomed to fail because they are focused on pleasing themselves rather than each other. If a relationship can thrive before marriage with the absence of sex, it's a good indicator that it will last.

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[FidelisAdMortem]

Why?

Honestly, I just find it sad.

[Stardust]

Yea, people having sex is the reason our economy is falling apart, and crime is on the upswing.

Its all about sex..................STOP SEX, MARKET GOES UP!

I am a very spiritual person. From the time of Sodom and Gomorrah to the fall of the Roman empire, 'til now, there always seem to be a correlation between the destruction of societies and that society's behavior, and its unacceptable, vile, sexual behavior.

I don't believe we get away with anything in our lives here on earth. I also don't believe societies do either. I can't see how God blesses a country that kills millions of babies of year, allows gay marriage, accepts all kinds of vile and base behavior, and allows the proliferation of porn as this country does. It is only a matter of time before we are a second or third rate country.

[Joeybear23]

Oh, I am sure there's lots of thought involved. People don't wake up and decide to have an affair. There are reasons why people cheat that have nothing to do with instant gratification.
The decision to cross that line was made long before the act was every committed. There are no "slilp ups" or "mistakes".

As for God... well... ummm... according to the lovely tale told around this time of year, he was technically the 'other man' when he impregnated Mary, who was married at the time. So, yeah.

Not to make light of the subject; Mary was betrothed, not married, at the time of the immaculate conception...

[FidelisAdMortem]

I am a very spiritual person. From the time of Sodom and Gomorrah to the fall of the Roman empire, 'til now, there always seem to be a correlation between the destruction of societies and that society's behavior, and usually its outlandish sexual behavior.

I don't believe we get away with anything in our lives here on earth. I also don't believe societies do either. I can't see how God blesses a country that kills millions of babies of year, allows gay marriage, accepts all kinds of vile and base behavior, and allows the proliferation of porn as this country does. It is only a matter of time before we are a second or third rate country.

And gays caused 9/11..................right.

[Samm]

I chase cougars, not kittens. HOLLA!

I think you are missing the point... you are not supposed to have to chase cougars... they do the chasing. ;)

[Pudge]

Well, I don't believe people should marry idiots, so.....

*LOL*

So if you're inexperienced or not too good at sex, you're an idiot?

[Pudge]

What would be the point of "playing the field"?
If both strive to satisfy each other and they get better at it as they practice, what does it matter that someone else may or may not have more experience in that area?

If you're already engaged or serious about someone else, then no, playing the field isn't necessary, and would probably end the relationship. I noted that your clarification stated that the engaged couple had never had sex with each other, not that they were both virgins, so maybe I spoke a little too soon. I'm just saying, if you're not in a relationship there's nothing wrong with playing the field as long as you do so responsibly.

I think the study was more of an indicator of married couples finding love and happiness in each other outside of sex alone. Relationships based heavily on sex are doomed to fail because they are focused on pleasing themselves rather than each other. If a relationship can thrive before marriage with the absence of sex, it's a good indicator that it will last.

This assumes that sex is only self-serving, and cannot be engaged in selflessly. You can use sex to please your partner, in fact, I believe that when you stop doing that, you're failing to meet their needs, and that can lead to the spurned spouse looking elsewhere.

[mrclean]

Two things you'll never hear from a dying man:

1. I should have worked more overtime, and

2. I think I may have had too many sexual partners.

[Pudge]

The decision to cross that line was made long before the act was every committed. There are no "slilp ups" or "mistakes".

But it's not usually a snap decision, there is a lot of thought that goes into it, and there are underlying reasons why those thoughts germinated in the first place.

Not to make light of the subject; Mary was betrothed, not married, at the time of the immaculate conception...

Even if she was- and different versions of the tale state she was married, and that Jesus had older brothers- it's still another man's girl that God impregnated. You don't have to be married to cheat, you know.

[Pudge]

I am a very spiritual person. From the time of Sodom and Gomorrah to the fall of the Roman empire, 'til now, there always seem to be a correlation between the destruction of societies and that society's behavior, and its unacceptable, vile, sexual behavior.

I don't believe we get away with anything in our lives here on earth. I also don't believe societies do either. I can't see how God blesses a country that kills millions of babies of year, allows gay marriage, accepts all kinds of vile and base behavior, and allows the proliferation of porn as this country does. It is only a matter of time before we are a second or third rate country.

:rolleyes:

[Joeybear23]

Two things you'll never hear from a dying man:

1. I should have worked more overtime, and

2. I think I may have had too many sexual partners.

I think you should talk to a few AIDS patients...

[Stardust]

And gays caused 9/11..................right.

I never said gays did. I personally always believed Clinton's behavior did. This happened after his world-wide scandal and 9/11's origins can be found in radical religious beliefs and done by a group who were/are outraged by his/our country's behavior.

I also believe that we should not have gotten involved in Iraq. These people have no interest in "westernizing" their country (and I don't blame them).

[Jíbaro]

This commercial is being shown on fox news channel.

http://www.break.com/usercontent/2008/7/AshleyMadison-com-Commercial-545212.html

Not only is it offensive, but I find it diisturbing that fox news channel is showing it

There has already been one commercial banned from other networks, but this one makes fun of married men with overweight wives, and shows her to be a slob...and encourages him to have an affair, and someone is getting rich off of it :mad:
There is a way for this nonesense to end.
A good lawyer successfully suing the Ad Agency for pushing her husband to Adultery.

[Stardust]

Two things you'll never hear from a dying man:

1. I should have worked more overtime, and

2. I think I may have had too many sexual partners.

Depends on whether he has a conscience or not.

Personally, if it were me, I would be concerned about what impression I left upon my children, i.e., do my kids despise me because of how I treated their mother? How is their future lives and marriages going to be affected by my piggish mindless behavior? Has my cheating emotionally hurt my partners over the years? These are just a few glimmers of someone who has a conscience and who was aware that his next stop was either hell or heaven.

[FidelisAdMortem]

I think you are missing the point... you are not supposed to have to chase cougars... they do the chasing. ;)

Oh is that right.........silly me.

[terri910]

So if you're inexperienced or not too good at sex, you're an idiot?
No...if you think, "Oh, it will always be just like this" or that you will necessarily be excellent at ANYthing the first time you do it, you might be! (I'm just talking common sense, here. That's what I meant, to think that you'd be lacking some pretty common sense. I do not advocate marrying someone that lacks common sense.)

[Alaric]

I think you are missing the point... you are not supposed to have to chase cougars... they do the chasing. ;)

ROFL! If the cougars are running from FAM, what does that tell you about FAM? :)) (sorry, couldn't resist)


Tis better to be chased than to chase.
(now thats punny right there)

[FidelisAdMortem]

Ouch...........

[Alaric]

Two things you'll never hear from a dying man:

1. I should have worked more overtime, and

2. I think I may have had too many sexual partners.

Do ya thinka dying man might wish he hadn't left his wife and family to run off with some tramp stamped Ashley Madison slut who dropped him for the next paying client?

[Rhonda]

Okay after more looking into this do you have the proof that Fox News is "running" this ad or just did a news story on the ad, another news story about the Company?

The AshleyMadison.com has put on their web site the statement "as featured on" followed by a list of the programs and news stations that have done a story on them.

Neil Cavuto did a story on the web site a couple of years ago and Ashely Madison purchased airtime from Fox News, and they have been airing the commercial

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/sep/05/tangled-web/

The company bought ad time on channels including ESPN, CNN, Fox News Channel and Spike, but the networks seemed to have second thoughts. ESPN, for one, says it has instructed its affiliates to quit airing the ad.

[Quislet]

I never said gays did. I personally always believed Clinton's behavior did. This happened after his world-wide scandal and 9/11's origins can be found in radical religious beliefs and done by a group who were/are outraged by his/our country's behavior.

I also believe that we should not have gotten involved in Iraq. These people have no interest in "westernizing" their country (and I don't blame them).


9/11 happened because Bill got a hummer from an intern? :rolleyes:

I kind of think they are more concerned with our support of Israel, our putting in puppet dictators, and stuff like that.

[Pudge]

There is a way for this nonesense to end.
A good lawyer successfully suing the Ad Agency for pushing her husband to Adultery.


That tactic worked so well for parents suing Judas Priest for pushing their kids to kill themselves.

Oh wait, it didn't work at all.

[Theranna]

Look up the Alienation of Affection laws and the such. The cuckhold would have better luck suing their spouse's lover.

Then again, the site offers a very expensive dating service for married people. I mean, those people could hook up in bars or on other websites... do you really think everyone on eHarmony is really single? Or on Lavalife?

End the hypocrisy and look up the spouse you have doubts about on Ashley Madison. You know you wanna!!!

[Gabby]

You just gave them a huge plug. Had you just rolled your eyes and not posted, we wouldn't be discussing this, and people who come here wouldn't be going to AshleyMadison.com to see what it's all about.

You might be the impetus that causes an extramarital affair. Smile!

Similar sites have existed for years. It's nothing new. Sleazy people will always find other sleazy people to play around with. The meet-up sites existed long before this particular company.

Anyone who would actually use a cheat site is probably already doing it.

[Pudge]

Similar sites have existed for years. It's nothing new. Sleazy people will always find other sleazy people to play around with. The meet-up sites existed long before this particular company.

Anyone who would actually use a cheat site is probably already doing it.

This is true.

That's why I say, don't hate Ashley Madison, don't blame them. Look at the problems in your marriage and find out what makes someone cheat. They don't do it because they see a silly commercial on Fox News.

[Vaard]

adult friend finder is a much better site.........

[LouC]

Neil Cavuto did a story on the web site a couple of years ago and Ashely Madison purchased airtime from Fox News, and they have been airing the commercial

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/sep/05/tangled-web/ September 5, 2008 Article


The company bought ad time on channels including ESPN, CNN, Fox News Channel and Spike, but the networks seemed to have second thoughts. ESPN, for one, says it has instructed its affiliates to quit airing the ad.

ABC LINK (http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=5499877&page=1)

August 4, 2008

Biderman said that his company, which was based in Toronto, was spending more than $1 million this summer to run the ad on several television channels, including CNN, MSNBC, Fox, Fox News Channel and Spike.

But some of the networks on Friday distanced themselves from the ad.

A spokesman for Spike said he wasn't sure if the network had ever run an ad for AshleyMadison.com but added that "if it did run, it would never run again."

Representatives for both the Fox network and Fox News also said that the channels would never air the ad.

Robert Marich, the business editor at the trade magazine Broadcasting & Cable, said that just because a national network has disavowed an ad, it doesn't mean its local affiliates or cable providers that carry their programs have done the same.
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As I said before, just because it airs during Fox News Programs does not mean it is an ad aired by Fox News.

I have never seen it aired and I have Fox News on a lot, especially in the "adult" late night time slots.

Doesn't mean it hasn't aired.

Looks like we are back to square one. :neutral:

[Rhonda]

ABC LINK (http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=5499877&page=1)

August 4, 2008

Biderman said that his company, which was based in Toronto, was spending more than $1 million this summer to run the ad on several television channels, including CNN, MSNBC, Fox, Fox News Channel and Spike.

But some of the networks on Friday distanced themselves from the ad.

A spokesman for Spike said he wasn't sure if the network had ever run an ad for AshleyMadison.com but added that "if it did run, it would never run again."

Representatives for both the Fox network and Fox News also said that the channels would never air the ad.

Robert Marich, the business editor at the trade magazine Broadcasting & Cable, said that just because a national network has disavowed an ad, it doesn't mean its local affiliates or cable providers that carry their programs have done the same.
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As I said before, just because it airs during Fox News Programs does not mean it is an ad aired by Fox News.

I have never seen it aired and I have Fox News on a lot, especially in the "adult" late night time slots.

Doesn't mean it hasn't aired.

Looks like we are back to square one. :neutral:

Some of them did have second thoughts, but it does not say which ones..from what I have seen ESPN did back away though, I did see the commercial quite a few times on prime time fox news

The ad they did not air was the other ad..the one shown here, that is the one they speak of in the article
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQ_Qe_x43_Y

[LouC]

Some of them did have second thoughts, but it does not say which ones..from what I have seen ESPN did back away though, I did see the commercial quite a few times on prime time fox news

The ad they did not air was the other ad..the one shown here, that is the one they speak of in the article
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQ_Qe_x43_Y

As I said before, just because it airs during Fox News Programs does not mean it is an ad aired by Fox News. :rolleyes:

"Representatives for both the Fox network and Fox News also said that the channels would never air the ad."

[Samm]

adult friend finder is a much better site.........

We'll take your word for it... I'm sure you know first hand. :whistle:

[GA_LP]

adult friend finder is a much better site.........If you're not REALLY married or single. :silenced::D

[Samm]

If you're not REALLY married or single. :silenced::D

I don't get it... we are all married or single. :eh:






:razz:

[GA_LP]

I don't get it... we are all married or single. :eh:






:razz:Sure, Samm, you know what I mean. :D

[Rhonda]

As I said before, just because it airs during Fox News Programs does not mean it is an ad aired by Fox News. :rolleyes:

"Representatives for both the Fox network and Fox News also said that the channels would never air the ad."

Ok..whatever. :rolleyes:

All I am saying is that the only place I saw the commecial happened to be on the fox news channel prime time line up...especially the Orielly factor...so if they did not buy the ad...who did?

Just because they said they would not air the one commercial in 2006, does not mean they would not air the latest one in 2008

[LouC]

Ok..whatever. :rolleyes:

All I am saying is that the only place I saw the commecial happened to be on the fox news channel prime time line up...especially the Orielly factor...so if they did not buy the ad...who did?

Just because they said they would not air the one commercial in 2006, does not mean they would not air the latest one in 2008

"Robert Marich, the business editor at the trade magazine Broadcasting & Cable, said that just because a national network has disavowed an ad, it doesn't mean its local affiliates or cable providers that carry their programs have done the same."

"Representatives for both the Fox network and Fox News also said that the channels would never air the ad." August 4, 2008

LINK (http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/national_world&id=6304418)

Tuesday, August 05, 2008

Marich said that both national television companies and local television stations each sell on-air advertising time.

Local stations and cable providers are often run by owners independent of the national networks, he said.

While national television companies have control over the commercials they run, he said, they don't impose restrictions on or review the ads that their local stations air.

"In general, [local] TV stations set their own policies for what's an acceptable ad or not because they're responsible for what they put on their air," he said.
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LINK (http://www2.tbo.com/content/2008/nov/20/na-swinger-site-makes-play-for-local-tv-time/)

Published: November 20, 2008

Swinger Site Makes Play For Local TV Time

"Life is short. Have an Affair" is the slogan for an online dating service for cheating spouses that claims it will be running TV commercials in Tampa by January.

Noel Biderman, chief executive of the controversial Ashley Madison Agency, says his Canadian-based company has bought time on local TV and radio stations to reach the swingers in Florida who are looking to hook up.
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Once again as I originally said, yes the ad very well may air "during" Fox News programming but that does not mean it is an ad that the Fox News network sold air time to play the ad.

I do not understand why this concept is so difficult to understand?

There is no evidence that I can find that Fox News itself is airing their [Ashleymadison.com] ads.

[Rhonda]

I do not understand why this concept is so difficult to understand?

There is no evidence that I can find that Fox News itself is airing their [Ashleymadison.com] ads.

Look, I understand the concept perfectly, and posted this way back, when you first brought this "concept" up

http://forums.hannity.com/showpost.php?p=44172251&postcount=61

[LouC]

Thread Bump for Prettybaby

[angelicmadrigal]

Someone needs a serious kick in the junk. I will gladly volunteer my foot for the task.

[Pudge]

Nevermind, I thought this was a new thread.

[Pudge]

All I am saying is that the only place I saw the commecial happened to be on the fox news channel prime time line up...especially the Orielly factor...so if they did not buy the ad...who did?

If I had to guess.... Bill O'Reilly. :))

Just because they said they would not air the one commercial in 2006, does not mean they would not air the latest one in 2008

How about you just change the channel when it comes on, or hit the mute button? Who died and made you lord and master over what commercials air on TV?

[Pudge]

another shocking commercial for a software game: how can a husband get rid of an upset wife? unbelievable!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9KPR_YpuN0&feature=related

(the person who posted it at YT thinks it funny, but I dont think so)

You have to have no sense of humor to think that wasn't funny.

[Pudge]

If you realize you are drinking yourself to sleep and waking up next to the wrong woman every day, then a reasonable, healthy individual would choose an honorable way to change their circumstances. This ad plays to the weak-minded and character-flawed.

ALL commercials play upon our flaws and weaknesses. Have you seen restaurant ads? Google 'food porn' and see what I mean.