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[Hadassah]

Conflicting terminology.

I'm a woman, a mistress of conflicting terminology. :))

[meggers49]

Ah, the sound of gunshots in the afternoon........

haddie, you need to move.

[RayMan]

I'm a woman, a mistress of conflicting terminology. :))

Don't even say it Ray...:whistle:

[smyrna]

I want my 1953 International Harvester back. That thing was SO easy to work on.

I'm probably going to buy the alternator for him. He's had to have the car towed home twice this week so I know he's hurtin' for bucks.

Image of Travelall. Fixed up a bed in it. My dog and I lived in it for a few months back in '77.

http://www.google.com/images?q=tbn:m17XgiOfLhJAQM::farm4.static.flickr.c om/3465/3356240417_51d260b976.jpg%253Fv%253D0

How about a 98 Suburban. I've got a bird dog and we travel to Canada, Michigan, the Dakotas and the NC Carolina coast to duck hunt, grouse, pheasant. We drive until tired, pull over and go to sleep in the back...it is the perfect vehicle.:D

[RayMan]

How about a 98 Suburban. I've got a bird dog and we travel to Canada, Michigan, the Dakotas and the NC Carolina coast to duck hunt, grouse, pheasant. We drive until tired, pull over and go to sleep in the back...it is the perfect vehicle.:D


I learned how to drive in my Dad's brand new 1968 Suburban. Great for hauling 14 people to Grateful Dead shows in in 1972. Helped him rebuild engine after about 150k miles. When he upgraded to a new Suburban in the late '80s I got the '68 for a couple years, then returned it to him and he sold it to a cousin of mine after having the engine rebuilt again.

My cousin drove it, hauling stuff for his flea market business until early 2008 when he found it impossible to find parts anymore in our area. My cousin died in late 2008 and my aunt sold it to a friend of his who had a source for parts.

That Suburban is still running after 40 years and probably four hundred thousand miles.

[Meriweather]

Anyone else getting the impression that we are being encouraged to subscribe to Hannity Headlines?

[RayMan]

What the hey is a Hannity Headine?

[FoxGranadaChuck]

Anyone else getting the impression that we are being encouraged to subscribe to Hannity Headlines?


Nah Meri, what would give you that REALLY silly idea.....


LOL

[Lie Sniper]

:frown:'96 Hyundai Elantra.

Well Ray I thought I would give you a little help with the Alternator so I looked up the directions.

Problem is the Directions stink!

Here's the directions as published by All data.

1. Disconnect battery ground cable.
2. Remove radiator mounting bolt.
3. Disconnect reservoir hose and fan motor connectors.
4. Raise vehicle
5. Remove left-hand splash shield.
6. Disconnect oil pressure switch connector.
7. Loosen alternator bolts and remove alternator belt.
8. Disconnect battery positive terminal.
9. Lift radiator and remove alternator bolts and alternator.
10. Reverse procedure to install.

Probably not much help. :frown:

[Meriweather]

What the hey is a Hannity Headine?

I'm about to find out. I signed up.

[RayMan]

:frown:

Well Ray I thought I would give you a little help with the Alternator so I looked up the directions.

Problem is the Directions stink!

Here's the directions as published by All data.

1. Disconnect battery ground cable.
2. Remove radiator mounting bolt.
3. Disconnect reservoir hose and fan motor connectors.
4. Raise vehicle
5. Remove left-hand splash shield.
6. Disconnect oil pressure switch connector.
7. Loosen alternator bolts and remove alternator belt.
8. Disconnect battery positive terminal.
9. Lift radiator and remove alternator bolts and alternator.
10. Reverse procedure to install.

Probably not much help. :frown:

Interesting. A pastor friend of mine has been an All Data salesman for almost ten years now so I am familiar with them. Stopped subscribing several years ago thought because I didn't did their instructions that much.

When my son got this car I bout a Chilton Hyundai Repair Manual online for '94-98 Hyundai's. The instructions in the book for replacing the alternator don't reference the radiator or oil pressure switch at all, but I am going to cut and paste the All Data instructions you posted into a notepad file in case I find that I am unable to get at the mounting bolts for the alternator. That is the only reason I can think of why you might want to mess with the radiator.

Thanks!

[Meriweather]

Today I dug up a quote by Plato.


One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.

[meggers49]

Today I dug up a quote by Plato.


One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.

i am going to have to cogitate on that for a bit, meri. I have been contemplating getting into politics because i'm so sick of the dolts who keep getting elected......

[Meriweather]

i am going to have to cogitate on that for a bit, meri. I have been contemplating getting into politics because i'm so sick of the dolts who keep getting elected......

Go for it. Did you hear the President's speech this morning?

[gpd®]

Today I dug up a quote by Plato.


One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.

How do we know it was really Plato who said it?:whistle::));)

[Meriweather]

How do we know it was really Plato who said it?:whistle::));)

Even so, a quote worthy of today.

[gpd®]

Even so, a quote worthy of today.

Hopefully you know I was teasing the "athies."

[RayMan]

Today I dug up a quote by Plato.


One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.


That Pluto is one smart dog. Mickey is lucky to have him.

[vir doctus]

Today I dug up a quote by Plato.


One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.

:arrow: "Wherefore necessity must be laid upon them, and they must be induced to serve from the fear of punishment. And this, as I imagine, is the reason why the forwardness to take office, instead of waiting to be compelled, has been deemed dishonourable. Now the worst part of the punishment is that he who refuses to rule is liable to be ruled by one who is worse than himself." Plato, Republic, Book I

http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/republic.2.i.html

[Meriweather]

Hopefully you know I was teasing the "athies."

Yes, I did catch the ribbing. Even so... No--why muddy the waters?

[vir doctus]

Even so, a quote worthy of today.

Except that it can't be found in Plato's writings...

[RayMan]

Hopefully you know I was teasing the "athies."


There are after all no copies of Plato's works that aren't from several centuries after his death. How do we really know he wrote anything? Could be a mythical being, the conglomeration of a number of ancient philosophers. Hey, I'm getting good at this stuff. :clap:

[Meriweather]

:arrow: "Wherefore necessity must be laid upon them, and they must be induced to serve from the fear of punishment. And this, as I imagine, is the reason why the forwardness to take office, instead of waiting to be compelled, has been deemed dishonourable. Now the worst part of the punishment is that he who refuses to rule is liable to be ruled by one who is worse than himself." Plato, Republic, Book I

http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/republic.2.i.html

Very good, Vir. Thank you.

How did this day go for you?

[vir doctus]

How did this day go for you?

Better than I deserve. Thanks for asking.

[Meriweather]

Better than I deserve. Thanks for asking.

I say that you are too hard on yourself. Of course you deserve a good day.

[vir doctus]

I say that you are too hard on yourself. Of course you deserve a good day.

Mumbo jumbo.

[RayMan]

Mumbo jumbo.

Mambo Jambo.

[RayMan]

Better than I deserve. Thanks for asking.

That bad, eh? My condolences.

[FoxGranadaChuck]

Mambo Jambo.


Time for Mambo #5.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tz2V3CIYA0

[Meriweather]

Mumbo jumbo.

No. Attitude. If you begin a day with the attitude you don't deserve a good day, then it is less likely you will see the good that is at hand, or the full potential and enjoyment of the day and of self.

[vir doctus]

No. Attitude. If you begin a day with the attitude you don't deserve a good day, then it is less likely you will see the good that is at hand, or the full potential and enjoyment of the day and of self.

Not so. I live my day in gratitude that the Lord has not treated me as my sins deserve. It's in the Book. :rolleyes:

[FoxGranadaChuck]

Not so. I live my day in gratitude that the Lord has not treated me as my sins deserve. It's in the Book. :rolleyes:


Verily.

[Meriweather]

Not so. I live my day in gratitude that the Lord has not treated me as my sins deserve. It's in the Book. :rolleyes:


And you are the judge of what your sins deserve?

[meggers49]

Go for it. Did you hear the President's speech this morning?

i avoid listening to him as often as i can. there isn't a word that comes out of his mouth that has anything to do with what he actually does. he makes my teeth itch.

[FoxGranadaChuck]

i avoid listening to him as often as i can. There isn't a word that comes out of his mouth that has anything to do with what he actually does. He makes my teeth itch.


+1

[vir doctus]

And you are the judge of what your sins deserve?

I do not get credit for penning, "The wages of sin is death." :rolleyes:

Are you bored?

[Meriweather]

I do not get credit for penning, "The wages of sin is death." :rolleyes:

Are you bored?

No, a little tired, but not bored. I knew you would come back with that so that I could quote, "For God so loved the world..."

This tells me the world is deserving of both love and redemption. I do not begin each morning praying for death in my life, but for love and redemption. I do not live death; I attempt with all my heart to live love and redemption.

[vir doctus]

No, a little tired, but not bored. I knew you would come back with that so that I could quote, "For God so loved the world..."

This tells me the world is deserving of both love and redemption.

God loving has nothing to do with man deserving.

I do not begin each morning praying for death in my life, but for love and redemption. I do not live death; I attempt with all my heart to live love and redemption.

You may be projecting because I could have never thought up "praying for death" or living death...

[CID_0687]

No. Attitude. If you begin a day with the attitude you don't deserve a good day, then it is less likely you will see the good that is at hand, or the full potential and enjoyment of the day and of self.
Meh.

[Meriweather]

God loving has nothing to do with man deserving.

I disagree. Tomorrow I am going to be among students, young human beings who I may not know very well, but who deserve my love because they are children, and children of God at that. You cannot say those children deserve my love, but do not deserve the love of God.


You may be projecting because I could have never thought up "praying for death" or living death...


I did not mean or intend to project onto you. I was telling of my own prayers. If I felt I deserved death, then death is where my heart would be centered. Instead, I feel I am called into love and redemption--so that is where I set my heart.

Remember, I am not speaking of warm fuzzies when I speak of love--but of justice and of very hard work. Growing in love takes a lot of time and a lot of energy.

[Meriweather]

Meh.

Good evening, CID. Did the twins fix your dinner again tonight?

[CID_0687]

Good evening, CID. Did the twins fix your dinner again tonight?
No, thank God.

[vir doctus]

I disagree. Tomorrow I am going to be among students, young human beings who I may not know very well, but who deserve my love because they are children, and children of God at that. You cannot say those children deserve my love, but do not deserve the love of God.

'Deserve' is still being used inappropriately by you.

[Meriweather]

'Deserve' is still being used inappropriately by you.

These are the definitions I am using. Which definition(s) are you using?

1. to merit, be qualified for, or have a claim to (reward, assistance, punishment, etc.) because of actions, qualities, or situation.

2. to be worthy of, qualified for, or have a claim to reward, punishment, recompense.

[Meriweather]

No, thank God.


Sooner than you will ever expect, they will be making you meals that will make your mouth water. You can remind them of how it all began...

[Hadassah]

Good night everyone. Let us remember to keep vir (her daughter especially), itsrea and her family, jwil's son Mitchell (and family, as well), and all those who have requested prayer in our prayers.



God bless you. :hug:

[Meriweather]

Good night everyone. Let us remember to keep vir (her daughter especially), itsrea and her family, jwil's son Mitchell (and family, as well), and all those who have requested prayer in our prayers.



God bless you. :hug:

Goodnight, Hadassah. Sleep well and may your dreams be sweet.

[CID_0687]

These are the definitions I am using. Which definition(s) are you using?

1. to merit, be qualified for, or have a claim to (reward, assistance, punishment, etc.) because of actions, qualities, or situation.

2. to be worthy of, qualified for, or have a claim to reward, punishment, recompense.
But we aren't worthy...our righteousness is as filthy rags....But, God loves us because we're His creation, therefore he has compassion for us.



I won't go into all the details of what I did, but, 2 weeks before my 19th birthday my dad gave me an ultimatum as I walked in the door of our house...there was a suitcase sitting in the foyer and he called me into the living room and said, "You've got 20 minutes to pack that bag and get out of my house or I'm calling the cops." I was out the door in 15 minutes.

A little over a month later is when I found Christ, or He found me. :think: I hadn't spoken to either of my parents since Dad kicked me out. I slept wherever I could, at friends houses, in my truck...wherever. After about another month I worked up the courage to call my mom...She told me that that night after I left my dad fell in the floor crying wondering where he had failed as a father to me, why his son, whom he loved so dearly had turned out the way he was, doing the the things he had done.

We talked for a while, and then mom said she would see if dad would let me come home...It took 4 more months before he would agree to it...Our relationship was pretty rocky for a while after that...until Dad saw that the change in me was genuine...we moved past what I had done, and looked ahead at our future...We were no longer just father and son, we were the closest of friends as well.

I didn't deserve that, I wasn't worthy of the forgiveness, the love or the friendship that my dad and I had his last few years on this earth...I deserved to be out in the cold, if he had disowned me, I wouldn't have held it against him...:Yet he didn't do that to me, not because I was deserving of better, but because he was my father and he loved me.

It's the same way with God.

[free2B]

Good night everyone. Let us remember to keep vir (her daughter especially), itsrea and her family, jwil's son Mitchell (and family, as well), and all those who have requested prayer in our prayers.



God bless you. :hug:

goodnight hadassah we will be praying for vir and itsrea and mitch and all of the others who need prayer in a time of need:pray:

[CID_0687]

goodnight hadassah we will be praying for vir and itsrea and mitch and all of the others who need prayer in a time of need:pray:
Reverent!!!

[CID_0687]

I like it when I see my post hovering above all others...it makes me feel special.

A special thanks to the admins for doing this for me. :clap:

[smyrna]

Good morning my fellow americans. It's friday...and you gotta like that.:clap: I hope everyone is accomplishing their goals for May. It is quickly coming to a close.

May you have a great day today. Work hard and tonight...you can play hard.

Are you listening Koushi...after this week in the car business:doh:...it's Crown time!:mrgreen:

[Meriweather]

But we aren't worthy...our righteousness is as filthy rags....But, God loves us because we're His creation, therefore he has compassion for us.



I won't go into all the details of what I did, but, 2 weeks before my 19th birthday my dad gave me an ultimatum as I walked in the door of our house...there was a suitcase sitting in the foyer and he called me into the living room and said, "You've got 20 minutes to pack that bag and get out of my house or I'm calling the cops." I was out the door in 15 minutes.

A little over a month later is when I found Christ, or He found me. :think: I hadn't spoken to either of my parents since Dad kicked me out. I slept wherever I could, at friends houses, in my truck...wherever. After about another month I worked up the courage to call my mom...She told me that that night after I left my dad fell in the floor crying wondering where he had failed as a father to me, why his son, whom he loved so dearly had turned out the way he was, doing the the things he had done.

We talked for a while, and then mom said she would see if dad would let me come home...It took 4 more months before he would agree to it...Our relationship was pretty rocky for a while after that...until Dad saw that the change in me was genuine...we moved past what I had done, and looked ahead at our future...We were no longer just father and son, we were the closest of friends as well.

I didn't deserve that, I wasn't worthy of the forgiveness, the love or the friendship that my dad and I had his last few years on this earth...I deserved to be out in the cold, if he had disowned me, I wouldn't have held it against him...:Yet he didn't do that to me, not because I was deserving of better, but because he was my father and he loved me.

It's the same way with God.

I do hear what both you and Vir are saying. I see this slightly differently. Your dad kicked you out of the house for something you did--he served you with justice. I am imagining that before he took such a step, he tried every other way to reach you, and it hadn't worked.

Turn this around so that it is about your father. During the last years of his life, did he deserve to be estranged from his son, or did he deserve the closest of friends relationship? You, yourself, were not meant to be estranged from your father. You are more deserving than that. You could have made the decision to remain estranged, and would have received what you deserved from making that decision. You did not deserve forgiveness? I think you proved that you did, that you were worthy of both forgiveness and redemption.

[FoxGranadaChuck]

Good Morning.

[Meriweather]

Good Morning.

And the top of the day to you, too.

[smyrna]

Mambo Jambo.

means...hello:mrgreen:

[Warrior4God]

Can I ask all of you to pray for me.

Sunday I had a pretty severe heart attack and they went in with a heart catheter to look then went back in to put 1 stint in and now it seems I have to go back in about 4 weeks to have another 1 and maybe 2 and possibly could even have open heart surgery if the surgeon feels like I need it.

I don't think I have ever felt so vulnerable in my life.
Always felt I could lick the whole world but now feel pretty scared about all of this.

I believe in the effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man and know that strong believers fill these forums and ask for your prayers.

Thank you and God Bless.

Billy

[FoxGranadaChuck]

Can I ask all of you to pray for me.

Sunday I had a pretty severe heart attack and they went in with a heart catheter to look then went back in to put 1 stint in and now it seems I have to go back in about 4 weeks to have another 1 and maybe 2 and possibly could even have open heart surgery if the surgeon feels like I need it.

I don't think I have ever felt so vulnerable in my life.
Always felt I could lick the whole world but now feel pretty scared about all of this.

I believe in the effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man and know that strong believers fill these forums and ask for your prayers.

Thank you and God Bless.

Billy


Kyrie eleison. Christe eleison.

:pray: :pray: :pray:

[smyrna]

Meri, I don't mean to butt in but I have to agree with Vir and CID on this one. I kind of look at it this way...you remember the movie, "It's a Wonderful Life"? We deserve death but the Lord gave us another chance when we accepted his Son as payment for what we deserve. Now, I am so pumped up...I want to make the best of this second chance and I have "your attitude" of how I now approach life. I am greatful for not rec'vg what I truly deserved and show it with a Christian way of living my life, from here on out...til death.

[RayMan]

means...hello:mrgreen:

I wasn't aware you knew Swahili. Cool.

[Warrior4God]

I just found out that TusconJim started a thread in overcoming obstacles for prayers and I am in tears of thankfulness.

Probably should have read before I posted the prior post here.............but every prayer to our Great Wonderful God helps.

[RayMan]

Can I ask all of you to pray for me.

Sunday I had a pretty severe heart attack and they went in with a heart catheter to look then went back in to put 1 stint in and now it seems I have to go back in about 4 weeks to have another 1 and maybe 2 and possibly could even have open heart surgery if the surgeon feels like I need it.

I don't think I have ever felt so vulnerable in my life.
Always felt I could lick the whole world but now feel pretty scared about all of this.

I believe in the effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man and know that strong believers fill these forums and ask for your prayers.

Thank you and God Bless.

Billy


:hug::pray:

[Meriweather]

Can I ask all of you to pray for me.

Sunday I had a pretty severe heart attack and they went in with a heart catheter to look then went back in to put 1 stint in and now it seems I have to go back in about 4 weeks to have another 1 and maybe 2 and possibly could even have open heart surgery if the surgeon feels like I need it.

I don't think I have ever felt so vulnerable in my life.
Always felt I could lick the whole world but now feel pretty scared about all of this.

I believe in the effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man and know that strong believers fill these forums and ask for your prayers.

Thank you and God Bless.

Billy

My prayers are with you. If it helps, both my dad and my brother went through similar episodes. Many years later they are both going strong and feel great. May God's blessings be upon you.

[FoxGranadaChuck]

My prayers are with you. If it helps, both my dad and my brother went through similar episodes. Many years later they are both going strong and feel great. May God's blessings be upon you.


My Mom and my brother in Charlotte went through similiar experiences as well.....

[smyrna]

Can I ask all of you to pray for me.

Sunday I had a pretty severe heart attack and they went in with a heart catheter to look then went back in to put 1 stint in and now it seems I have to go back in about 4 weeks to have another 1 and maybe 2 and possibly could even have open heart surgery if the surgeon feels like I need it.

I don't think I have ever felt so vulnerable in my life.
Always felt I could lick the whole world but now feel pretty scared about all of this.

I believe in the effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man and know that strong believers fill these forums and ask for your prayers.

Thank you and God Bless.

Billy

Father, hear my prayer.:pray:

[smyrna]

I wasn't aware you knew Swahili. Cool.

Good ol...Daktari.:mrgreen:

[FoxGranadaChuck]

Good ol...Daktari.:mrgreen:


I thought that was street Klingon.....

[smyrna]

I just found out that TusconJim started a thread in overcoming obstacles for prayers and I am in tears of thankfulness.

Probably should have read before I posted the prior post here.............but every prayer to our Great Wonderful God helps.

Warrior4God...read Psalm 91. It strengthens me and I pray it will you too.

...because you have made the Lord your habitation
no evil shall befall you
no scourge come near your tent
For he will give his Angels, charge of you
To guard you in all your ways...:pray:

[smyrna]

My Mom and my brother in Charlotte went through similiar experiences as well.....

Charlotte, now you're getting very close to my neck of the woods...

[RayMan]

Good ol...Daktari.:mrgreen:

ahh...

[vir doctus]

These are the definitions I am using. Which definition(s) are you using?

1. to merit, be qualified for, or have a claim to (reward, assistance, punishment, etc.) because of actions, qualities, or situation.

2. to be worthy of, qualified for, or have a claim to reward, punishment, recompense.

None of which fit how you use it.

Here's a dictionary: www.onelook.com Get a new word.

I am not worthy of God's love for I have not done what He has asked - "Be holy, for I Am holy."
I am not qualified to receive the love of God for I "have sinned and fall short of the glory of God".
I have no claim to reward - love is not something you win, it is a gift of God - not merited by man.

"But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong. He chose the lowly things of this world and the despised things—and the things that are not—to nullify the things that are, so that no one may boast before him. It is because of him that you are in Christ Jesus, who has become for us wisdom from God—that is, our righteousness, holiness and redemption. Therefore, as it is written: "Let him who boasts boast in the Lord." 1 Cor. 1

[vir doctus]

Can I ask all of you to pray for me.

Sunday I had a pretty severe heart attack and they went in with a heart catheter to look then went back in to put 1 stint in and now it seems I have to go back in about 4 weeks to have another 1 and maybe 2 and possibly could even have open heart surgery if the surgeon feels like I need it.

I don't think I have ever felt so vulnerable in my life.
Always felt I could lick the whole world but now feel pretty scared about all of this.

I believe in the effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man and know that strong believers fill these forums and ask for your prayers.

Thank you and God Bless.

Billy

Observe and enjoy, you will be a better warrior on the other side of this, the change in your body cannot match the change your spirit will enjoy. Prepare to be liberated from the trappings of this world.

:pray:

[Meriweather]

None of which fit how you use it.

Here's a dictionary: www.onelook.com (http://www.onelook.com) Get a new word.

I am not worthy of God's love for I have not done what He has asked - "Be holy, for I Am holy."
I am not qualified to receive the love of God for I "have sinned and fall short of the glory of God".
I have no claim to reward - love is not something you win, it is a gift of God - not merited by man.

"But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong. He chose the lowly things of this world and the despised things—and the things that are not—to nullify the things that are, so that no one may boast before him. It is because of him that you are in Christ Jesus, who has become for us wisdom from God—that is, our righteousness, holiness and redemption. Therefore, as it is written: "Let him who boasts boast in the Lord." 1 Cor. 1


God Himself has judged me worthy of His love, worthy of redemption. It is up to me to step up to the plate , to ask and to receive--and to work really hard at my redemption. Every morning I face God with, "I'm not very good at this. I would like to be better." That's all God needs to know. From there He arranges all sorts of things to help me shape up--to become better at what I am not good at--to be redeemed.

I'll say upfront that this is a trick question. We will see where it takes us. When I was in high school, I broke my arm. Did I deserve to have it cared for?

[vir doctus]

When I was in high school, I broke my arm. Did I deserve to have it cared for?

No.

[Meriweather]

No.

Neither did my mother. Therefore it was not.

[vir doctus]

neither did my mother. Therefore it was not.

Ok.

[Meriweather]

Morning Devotional

Who are you to judge someone else's servant? (Romans 14:4)



Stick to What You Know!

Our brain doesn't like blank spaces, so when it encounters questions without answers it searches for something to put in the blank spaces. And because we're driven by our own perceptions, needs and prejudices, we're not always objective. We're blind to our blind spots and think we "know," and the results can be disastrous for our relationships. "I know what your real intentions are. You think I don't know what's going on in that head of yours? I can tell by the look on your face exactly what you're thinking."

Such words indicate we've got the other person "pegged," and feel no need to consider the situation further because we couldn't possibly be wrong. Case closed. What about such Scriptures as, "He who answers a matter before he hears the facts - it is a folly and shame to him" (Pr 18:13). Or, "Be quick to hear, slow to speak" (Jas 1:19). Or, "Even a fool is counted wise when he holds his peace; when he shuts his lips, he is considered perceptive" (Pr 17:28).

Before you "sound off," consider three things:

(1) "No one can know a person's thoughts except that person's own spirit" (1Co 2:11). You may suspect, guess, even feel strongly, but you don't know their thoughts or intentions.

(2) "Who art thou that judgest another man's servant?" (Ro 14:4). Much of our "knowing," is merely our own judgmental spin on things.

(3) If you think you know and need to deal with the issue, try saying, "I have some impressions (concerns, observations, etc.) I'd like to talk about." Then discuss your observations, feelings and impressions as your perceptions, not "gospel truth," leaving judgment to God.


waio.org

[FoxGranadaChuck]

Morning Devotional

Who are you to judge someone else's servant? (Romans 14:4)

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Amen on all points!!!

[Meriweather]

I wish everyone a lovely day. May God bless us all.

[terri910]

A couple of friends and I (at separate times) were talking about this very thing: filling in the blanks. And how, almost always, we tend to fill in the blanks in a very negative way.

[FoxGranadaChuck]

A couple of friends and I (at separate times) were talking about this very thing: filling in the blanks. And how, almost always, we tend to fill in the blanks in a very negative way.


And what REALLY irritates me is when someone says, "Well, I know why someone did so and so and/or said so and so!" Well, no you don't!

And the biggest reason this irritates me?! Because I did it myself before I knew better!

[vir doctus]

And what REALLY irritates me is when someone says, "Well, I know why someone did so and so and/or said so and so!" Well, no you don't!

And the biggest reason this irritates me?! Because I did it myself before I knew better!

Verily.

[gpd®]

Morning All!!!

[Dancer]

Gotta make a run to the doctor to go get a letter so hopefully the school will give me a break on my classes last term. *yikes*

c y'all later!

[Hadassah]

Can I ask all of you to pray for me.

Sunday I had a pretty severe heart attack and they went in with a heart catheter to look then went back in to put 1 stint in and now it seems I have to go back in about 4 weeks to have another 1 and maybe 2 and possibly could even have open heart surgery if the surgeon feels like I need it.

I don't think I have ever felt so vulnerable in my life.
Always felt I could lick the whole world but now feel pretty scared about all of this.

I believe in the effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man and know that strong believers fill these forums and ask for your prayers.

Thank you and God Bless.

Billy

W4G, I am by no means a righteous man (woman) but I will surely pray for you. :pray: :hug:



It will be ok. I have no doubt about that.

[Hadassah]

A couple of friends and I (at separate times) were talking about this very thing: filling in the blanks. And how, almost always, we tend to fill in the blanks in a very negative way.


:whistle:

It's those times when we are right that tend to make it way too easy to "fill in the blanks" all the other times. It's a habit I know I have to break.

[Hadassah]

Gotta make a run to the doctor to go get a letter so hopefully the school will give me a break on my classes last term. *yikes*

c y'all later!



Hope all goes well with the school.

[CID_0687]

:dance:

[CID_0687]

Vicious attack animal...The blanket never had a chance.

[Meriweather]

Vicious attack animal...The blanket never had a chance.

So why are you dancing? If the blanket never had a chance, what is the condition of your toes?

[CID_0687]

So why are you dancing? If the blanket never had a chance, what is the condition of your toes?
She learned quickly, the first and only time she nipped at my toes she went for a short but quick airborne ride from the recliner to the couch...hasn't happened since...now she looks at my feet and immediately attacks the blanket.

[RayMan]

Vicious attack animal...The blanket never had a chance.

I know I'm scared.

[Meriweather]

She learned quickly, the first and only time she nipped at my toes she went for a short but quick airborne ride from the recliner to the couch...hasn't happened since...now she looks at my feet and immediately attacks the blanket.

Smart puppy.

[CID_0687]

I know I'm scared.
As you should be...she's a killer I tell ya.

[RayMan]

As you should be...she's a killer I tell ya.

It shows. She may be demon possessed. Look at her eyes in that photo.

[CID_0687]

It shows. She may be demon possessed. Look at her eyes in that photo.
I have exorcised the demons!! This house is clear.

[RayMan]

I have exorcised the demons!! This house is clear.

That's a relief.

Now go exercise the dog.

[vir doctus]

That's a relief.

Now go exercise the dog.

Have you moved?

[RayMan]

Have you moved?

Not in the past half hour or so. Aside from pecking at the keys that is.

Otherwise just being sedentary.




















Or did you mean have I moved out of Vallejo?

[vir doctus]

Or did you mean have I moved out of Vallejo?

I assume you moved out of the land of the [morally] bankrupt given your "Location" says you live in the greatest state in the Union. :think:

[RayMan]

I assume you moved out of the land of the [morally] bankrupt given your "Location" says you live in the greatest state in the Union. :think:

Unfortunately the Rules of Respect for the RF preclude the answer I should give you for that one.





Actually I am surprised no one has given me smack about that. I put it up there specifically to see who would see it and make a snarky remark about California.

You win!


CID, please tell vir what she will be taking home today.

[vir doctus]

Unfortunately the Rules of Respect for the RF preclude the answer I should give you for that one.


Shouldn't it be against the rules of respect to suggest that you wish to break the rules of respect in my general direction... :think:

[meggers49]

God Himself has judged me worthy of His love, worthy of redemption. It is up to me to step up to the plate , to ask and to receive--and to work really hard at my redemption. Every morning I face God with, "I'm not very good at this. I would like to be better." That's all God needs to know. From there He arranges all sorts of things to help me shape up--to become better at what I am not good at--to be redeemed.

I'll say upfront that this is a trick question. We will see where it takes us. When I was in high school, I broke my arm. Did I deserve to have it cared for?

again, you're mixing apples and oranges. having your arm fixed has nothing to do with deserving.

We don't deserve redemption, it's given to us because of God's grace, not by anything we do to merit it. You cannot work at doing something to make you redeemed. God doesn't need to know anything but that you are sorry for your sins. He may arrange things to 'help you shape up', but it's not for your redemption, it's for your betterment. If you shape up or not, if you are sorry every day for your sins and believe that Christ died for them for you, you are redeemed.

It is similar to getting flowers from someone you love for no reason. The person gives you flowers out of love. You did nothing to earn them, or deserve them, you did nothing to merit them, yet they were given to you anyway, out of love.

You in no way merit redemption. You are a sinner. Nothing you DO makes that not so. It's your repentence of your sins and your faith that redeem.

Nothing is deserved.

[RayMan]

Shouldn't it be against the rules of respect to suggest that you wish to break the rules of respect in my general direction... :think:


I didn't say I wanted to. I said I should.


It's kind of like God should condemn you to hell without recourse but instead he sent Jesus to die on your behalf so that you might enjoy the benefits of salvation.

[Meriweather]

Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle. (Plato)

[RayMan]

Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle. (Plato)


Speaking of which, why aren't you banned yet?

[CID_0687]

Unfortunately the Rules of Respect for the RF preclude the answer I should give you for that one.





Actually I am surprised no one has given me smack about that. I put it up there specifically to see who would see it and make a snarky remark about California.

You win!


CID, please tell vir what she will be taking home today.
Why certainly Ray.

Vir, we've got a lovely parting gift for you today.

A life sized portrait of our current Speaker of the House.

[vir doctus]

I didn't say I wanted to. I said I should.


It's kind of like God should condemn you to hell without recourse but instead he sent Jesus to die on your behalf so that you might enjoy the benefits of salvation.

How much kind of? Are you growing a complex?

[Meriweather]

again, you're mixing apples and oranges. having your arm fixed has nothing to do with deserving.

We don't deserve redemption, it's given to us because of God's grace, not by anything we do to merit it. You cannot work at doing something to make you redeemed. God doesn't need to know anything but that you are sorry for your sins. He may arrange things to 'help you shape up', but it's not for your redemption, it's for your betterment. If you shape up or not, if you are sorry every day for your sins and believe that Christ died for them for you, you are redeemed.

It is similar to getting flowers from someone you love for no reason. The person gives you flowers out of love. You did nothing to earn them, or deserve them, you did nothing to merit them, yet they were given to you anyway, out of love.

You in no way merit redemption. You are a sinner. Nothing you DO makes that not so. It's your repentence of your sins and your faith that redeem.

Nothing is deserved.


In your flower example, are we, or are we not as human beings, deserving of love and tokens of love?

[Meriweather]

Speaking of which, why aren't you banned yet?

Banned? Now what did I do?

[vir doctus]

Why certainly Ray.

Vir, we've got a lovely parting gift for you today.

A life sized portrait of our current Speaker of the House.

I'm sure Honourable RayMan appreciates your highlighting the greatness of California. :whistle:

[CID_0687]

I'm sure Honourable RayMan appreciates your highlighting the greatness of California. :whistle:
:mrgreen:

[vir doctus]

In your flower example, are we, or are we not as human beings, deserving of love and tokens of love?

No, we do NOT deserve love. Bit of an oxymoron you have there. :rolleyes:

[CID_0687]

Banned? Now what did I do?
I think the better question is what have you not done.

[RayMan]

How much kind of? Are you growing a complex?

You kiddin'?


I can't even grow a decent beard. Just waxing analagous.

[RayMan]

I'm sure Honourable RayMan appreciates your highlighting the greatness of California. :whistle:

Yeah, Nancy's our home-girl out here.

[Meriweather]

I think the better question is what have you not done.

That's easy! I have not done anything to earn a ban. (As evidenced by my presence here.)

[RayMan]

That's easy! I have not done anything to earn a ban. (As evidenced by my presence here.)

I don't think FW has been online yet today.

[vir doctus]

You kiddin'?


I can't even grow a decent beard. Just waxing analagous.

Did Jesus grow a decent beard? :think:

[CID_0687]

That's easy! I have not done anything to earn a ban. (As evidenced by my presence here.)
That's the problem with some people, everyone else knows what they've done wrong yet they can't see for themselves.

[Meriweather]

No, we do NOT deserve love. Bit of an oxymoron you have there. :rolleyes:

I am definitely seeing this from another perspective. I see each human being as deserving of love and worthy of love. We are commanded to love one another. I cannot imagine looking at another human being without seeing someone deserving of love, care, and affection--just for being a creation of God's.

[vir doctus]

I am definitely seeing this from another perspective. I see each human being as deserving of love and worthy of love. We are commanded to love one another. I cannot imagine looking at another human being without seeing someone deserving of love, care, and affection--just for being a creation of God's.

How is it 'love' if it is what you 'deserve'?

[Meriweather]

I don't think FW has been online yet today.

Fire Watch wants to ban me?

I mean, I may have a slightly guilty conscience in that regard--but if he knew about that and wanted to ban me for it, it would already be done.

[RayMan]

Fire Watch wants to ban me?

I mean, I may have a slightly guilty conscience in that regard--but if he knew about that and wanted to ban me for it, it would already be done.

I didn't say FW wants to ban you. Trying to drag me down with you now, eh? :eh:

[Meriweather]

That's the problem with some people, everyone else knows what they've done wrong yet they can't see for themselves.

So tell me. It seems I may need to prepare to take the Fifth again.

[RayMan]

Did Jesus grow a decent beard? :think:

I don't know.



Where are Bill and Ted when you really need them to settle a question which can only be answered through time travel!?


CID,
You wouldn't happen to have a Way-Back Machine handy would you?

[CID_0687]

Fire Watch wants to ban me?

I mean, I may have a slightly guilty conscience in that regard--but if he knew about that and wanted to ban me for it, it would already be done.
Confucious say, "Predator strike prey when least expected."

[RayMan]

So tell me. It seems I may need to prepare to take the Fifth again.


I thought you had quit drinking.

[CID_0687]

I don't know.



Where are Bill and Ted when you really need them to settle a question which can only be answered through time travel!?


CID,
You wouldn't happen to have a Way-Back Machine handy would you?
Sorry, mine's in the shop, it needed a new flux capacitor.

[Meriweather]

How is it 'love' if it is what you 'deserve'?


I remember reading somewhere once (wish I could remember so I could properly attribute it) that it is the goal of every human heart to love and to be loved. In other words, love is something intrinsic that comes with being human.

If we don't see others as deserving or worthy of our love, how can it be anything but pity--or condescension?

[vir doctus]

If we don't see others as deserving or worthy of our love, how can it be anything but pity--or condescension?

Really warped. Don't think I can continue this bizarre conversation.

[Meriweather]

I didn't say FW wants to ban you. Trying to drag me down with you now, eh? :eh:


You said Fire Watch hadn't been on line yet, making it sound like he might consider it once he arrives. It appears you are just trying to make me a little nervous.

[Meriweather]

Confucious say, "Predator strike prey when least expected."

Like I'm prey.

[CID_0687]

Like I'm prey.
I was simply sharing my fortune cookie with everyone.

Somebody's nervous.

[Meriweather]

Really warped. Don't think I can continue this bizarre conversation.

People are a wonderful creation and deserving/worthy of our love. But if it helps, it's bizarre and mystifying on my end, too.

[Fire Watch]

:)

[Meriweather]

I was simply sharing my fortune cookie with everyone.

Somebody's nervous.

But not very.

[Hadassah]

How is it 'love' if it is what you 'deserve'?


Does your husband not deserve your love?


Not being a smarty-pants; just trying to understand your perspective.

[Meriweather]

:)


Greetings and salutations.

[Hadassah]

Vicious attack animal...The blanket never had a chance.

She's sooooo adorable.

[vir doctus]

Does your husband not deserve your love?


Not being a smarty-pants; just trying to understand your perspective.

He has my love because I give it to him, he doesn't deserve it. We don't have a merit based marriage.

[Hadassah]

He has my love because I give it to him, he doesn't deserve it. We don't have a merit based marriage.

I understand where both you and where Meri are coming from.

[Meriweather]

I understand where both you and where Meri are coming from.

Very good! It appears we need a translator/interpreter. I am quite puzzled.

[CID_0687]

Very good! It appears we need a translator/interpreter. I am quite puzzled.
I'm not surprised.

[Meriweather]

I'm not surprised.

Why not? And are you volunteering as interpreter?

[smyrna]

Very good! It appears we need a translator/interpreter. I am quite puzzled.

We should love each other because none of us are any better or more righteous than the other...also Jesus commanded it. Now the question is compared to a righteous God, we are but filthy rags. There are two different perspectives.

[CID_0687]

Why not? And are you volunteering as interpreter?
I don't speak Californese very well.

[Meriweather]

We should love each other because none of us are any better or more righteous than the other...also Jesus commanded it. Now the question is compared to a righteous God, we are but filthy rags. There are two different perspectives.

I do understand that compared to God, I am zilch. I don't understand how that makes me undeserving of love.

[Meriweather]

I don't speak Californese very well.

We were both in Kentucky for a time. Speak Kentucky then. Or, you can speak Southern as I was also in Texas for awhile.

[CID_0687]

We were both in Kentucky for a time. Speak Kentucky then. Or, you can speak Southern as I was also in Texas for awhile.
Here's some Southern for ya.

We ain't worth nothin.

The one deserving of love is God. He loves us because He created us, not because we've done anything to deserve it, we've done plenty to not deserve it, yet He still sent His Son to pay for our transgressions. That's because he has grace and mercy.

[Hadassah]

God, please forgive me for how I reacted when I was betrayed by one who called himself my friend. I was hurt and lashed out. I was wrong. Forgive me for turning against You, even for the very short time I did so.


I also ask for those of you here to forgive me for lashing out. Yes, my friend was absolutely wrong. Yes, he did hurt me much, much more than my rapist ever did (and he knows some of that pain because he dealt with some of the after affects.) But that doesn't mean I should have reacted the way I did. I should have handled it by acting and not reacting. When I am in physical pain, I act to relieve it. I don't react by, say, shooting myself, to relieve the pain.

[CID_0687]

God, please forgive me for how I reacted when I was betrayed by one who called himself my friend. I was hurt and lashed out. I was wrong. Forgive me for turning against You, even for the very short time I did so.


I also ask for those of you here to forgive me for lashing out. Yes, my friend was absolutely wrong. Yes, he did hurt me much, much more than my rapist ever did (and he knows some of that pain because he dealt with some of the after affects.) But that doesn't mean I should have reacted the way I did. I should have handled it by acting and not reacting. When I am in physical pain, I act to relieve it. I don't react by, say, shooting myself, to relieve the pain.
:hug:

[Meriweather]

Here's some Southern for ya.

We ain't worth nothin.

The one deserving of love is God. He loves us because He created us, not because we've done anything to deserve it, we've done plenty to not deserve it, yet He still sent His Son to pay for our transgressions. That's because he has grace and mercy.

Good starting place. From here I jump to Jesus telling us, "You are the salt of the earth. You are the light of the world."

Did I make too big of a jump, and if so, what do you think the next step should be?

[Meriweather]

God, please forgive me for how I reacted when I was betrayed by one who called himself my friend. I was hurt and lashed out. I was wrong. Forgive me for turning against You, even for the very short time I did so.


I also ask for those of you here to forgive me for lashing out. Yes, my friend was absolutely wrong. Yes, he did hurt me much, much more than my rapist ever did (and he knows some of that pain because he dealt with some of the after affects.) But that doesn't mean I should have reacted the way I did. I should have handled it by acting and not reacting. When I am in physical pain, I act to relieve it. I don't react by, say, shooting myself, to relieve the pain.

:hug: One step at a time, and remember, it's best to start with baby steps.

[RayMan]

You said Fire Watch hadn't been on line yet, making it sound like he might consider it once he arrives. It appears you are just trying to make me a little nervous.


Actually I was aiming for paranoid.



Can you do paranoid?

[RayMan]

Very good! It appears we need a translator/interpreter. I am quite puzzled.

That's pretty much your default setting isn't it?

[Meriweather]

Actually I was aiming for paranoid.



Can you do paranoid?

Not with Fire Watch, no.

[Meriweather]

That's pretty much your default setting isn't it?

Yes. I know how I see things, but I need to work a little at recognizing how others see it.

[CID_0687]

Yes. I know how I see things, but I need to work a little at recognizing how others see it.
It would be much easier if you were in a parallel universe instead of a diagonal one.

[Meriweather]

It would be much easier if you were in a parallel universe instead of a diagonal one.

You're up to it...or, are you? ;)

[vir doctus]

It would be much easier if you were in a parallel universe instead of a diagonal one.

Evil Spock. :eek:

[CID_0687]

You're up to it...or, are you? ;)
Not sure, I haven't had enough bourbon.

And even if I did have enough sometimes you cause me to have hangovers...

CID don't get hangovers.

[Meriweather]

Not sure, I haven't had enough bourbon.

And even if I did have enough sometimes you cause me to have hangovers...

CID don't get hangovers.

Maybe I'm not even in a diagonal universe. Maybe I'm in a knot one?

http://www.whats-your-sign.com/images/CelticSymbol6.jpg

This one has both knots and diagonals.

[vir doctus]

You're up to it...or, are you? ;)

Not for my sake - your position is too illogical and abuses the English language beyond what I have the patience for.

[CID_0687]

Maybe I'm not even in a diagonal universe. Maybe I'm in a knot one?

http://www.whats-your-sign.com/images/CelticSymbol6.jpg

This one has both knots and diagonals.
That's a better probability, it is a tangled web you weave.

[Meriweather]

Not for my sake - your position is too illogical and abuses the English language beyond what I have the patience for.

http://www.starbucks.com/retail/images/javachip_frap.jpg

[vir doctus]

http://www.starbucks.com/retail/images/javachip_frap.jpg

:snooty:

[CID_0687]

http://www.starbucks.com/retail/images/javachip_frap.jpg
I don't believe bribery will persuade Lady Vir to teeter to your side of the scale.

She's more dignified than that.

[Meriweather]

I don't believe bribery will persuade Lady Vir to teeter to your side of the scale.

She's more dignified than that.

It's not bribery. She worked at hard at helping me to see a point her way, so it's a gift--even if she doesn't deserve it. ;) (Did I get the point correct this time?)

[CID_0687]

It's not bribery. She worked at hard at helping me to see a point her way, so it's a gift--even if she doesn't deserve it. ;) (Did I get the point correct this time?)
I told the judge when I got my reckless endangerment ticket that I wanted to donate 500 to his favorite charity, I considered that a gift...him, not so much.

[Meriweather]

I told the judge when I got my reckless endangerment ticket that I wanted to donate 500 to his favorite charity, I considered that a gift...him, not so much.

Did you tell him this before or after you paid the ticket?

[CID_0687]

Did you tell him this before or after you paid the ticket?
Yes.

[Meriweather]

Yes.

Timing is everything.

[CID_0687]

Timing is everything.
Only for comics and military strategery.

[vir doctus]

(Did I get the point correct this time?)

No.

[Meriweather]

Only for comics and military strategery.

You're the comic, so you should have known.

If you're the comic, by default, that makes me the military strategist.

[Meriweather]

No.

Sigh. I must still be in my knotted universe. Very well, then. Pour the frappuccino out.

[CID_0687]

Sigh. I must still be in my knotted universe. Very well, then. Pour the frappuccino out.
She will not!!

Bribe or not that's still a good frappuccino...

[RayMan]

It's not bribery. She worked at hard at helping me to see a point her way, so it's a gift--even if she doesn't deserve it. ;) (Did I get the point correct this time?)

You really think anybody is gonna fall for that? :rolleyes:

[vir doctus]

Sigh. I must still be in my knotted universe. Very well, then. Pour the frappuccino out.

If, as you say, I worked hard for you, it is acceptable to say I deserve a payment. If I deserve payment, the frappuccino cannot be a gift -unless I refuse compensation or you compensate me otherwise and are simply offering the drink as a friend.

[RayMan]

You're the comic, so you should have known.

If you're the comic, by default, that makes me the military strategist.

Strategerist is the preferred Texas spelling and we have a lot of Texans in this forum. You can't afford to tick them off.

[Meriweather]

She will not!!

Bribe or not that's still a good frappuccino...

I thought she didn't want it. In any case, it's hers to do with as she would like.

[RayMan]

If, as you say, I worked hard for you, it is acceptable to say I deserve a payment. If I deserve payment, the frappuccino cannot be a gift -unless I refuse compensation or you compensate me otherwise and are simply offering the drink as a friend.


First math, now philosophy. When oh when will it end?

[vir doctus]

Strategerist is the preferred Texas spelling and we have a lot of Texans in this forum. You can't afford to tick them off.

Don't mess with Texas or the hospital I was born in... :whistle:

[CID_0687]

Strategerist is the preferred Texas spelling and we have a lot of Texans in this forum. You can't afford to tick them off.
Reverent!!

Don't mess with Texas.

[Meriweather]

You really think anybody is gonna fall for that? :rolleyes:

It was well meant, so people can accept it or not as they choose. I didn't mean to trip anyone up over it.

[CID_0687]

It was well meant, so people can accept it or not as they choose. I didn't mean to trip anyone up over it.
I thought that was your intentions the day you signed onto this board...oh well, can't be right about everything.

[Meriweather]

If, as you say, I worked hard for you, it is acceptable to say I deserve a payment. If I deserve payment, the frappuccino cannot be a gift -unless I refuse compensation or you compensate me otherwise and are simply offering the drink as a friend.

I just thought you might enjoy a frappuccino.

[vir doctus]

First math, now philosophy. When oh when will it end?

Fair Meri can play junior philosopher all she wants; the field is, after all, about making one's self god.

[Meriweather]

Strategerist is the preferred Texas spelling and we have a lot of Texans in this forum. You can't afford to tick them off.


None of the Texans are ticked off at me. Speaking of Texans....

Mikko! :((

[vir doctus]

It was well meant, so people can accept it or not as they choose. I didn't mean to trip anyone up over it.

My eldest Ruskie is much like a two year old, after she has done something wrong she gives me her prettiest rocks.

[Meriweather]

I thought that was your intentions the day you signed onto this board...oh well, can't be right about everything.


The only intention I had the day I signed up on this board was to nevermake any online friends. For a couple of years I did so well with that.

[CID_0687]

The only intention I had the day I signed up on this board was to nevermake any online friends. For a couple of years I did so well with that.
You appear to be holding a grudge with yourself over that.

What a shame.

[Meriweather]

Fair Meri can play junior philosopher all she wants; the field is, after all, about making one's self god.


That is the number one reason I would never be LDS. Can you imagine having to be in charge of an entire world?

[Meriweather]

You appear to be holding a grudge with yourself over that.

What a shame.

Nice try, but no grudge. Just dreams, sometimes, of returning to the hermitage.

[free2B]

some may ask is God real
can't I do whatere I feel
no conscience no guide no regret
because you haven't found God yet
but He is their whether you believe
He inhabits all you perceive

me

hey meri:)

[CID_0687]

Nice try, but no grudge. Just dreams, sometimes, of returning to the hermitage.
I didn't know you were related to Old Hickory.

[Meriweather]

My eldest Ruskie is much like a two year old, after she has done something wrong she gives me her prettiest rocks.

Why didn't my two-year-olds give me their prettiest rocks? My eldest collected pebbles at that age, and she never gave me a single one.

[Meriweather]

some may ask is God real
can't I do whatere I feel
no conscience no guide no regret
because you haven't found God yet
but He is their whether you believe
He inhabits all you perceive

me

hey meri:)

Free! Thank you for bringing in the poetry! :hug:

[Meriweather]

I didn't know you were related to Old Hickory.

I didn't know I was either. Why don't people tell me these things?

[RayMan]

Nice try, but no grudge. Just dreams, sometimes, of returning to the hermitage.

You're related to the Czar?



Is vir aware of this?

[Meriweather]

[/b]
You're related to the Czar?



Is vir aware of this?

No, I am not relating to the Czar, either.

[vir doctus]

You're related to the Czar?



Is vir aware of this?

"May the Lord bless and keep the Czar - - far away from us."

[vir doctus]

No, I am not relating to the Czar, either.

If you were, that would be another sin.


Just saying.

[Meriweather]

If you were, that would be another sin.


Just saying.

I'm only related to people who are related to me. No Czars are related to me, so I cannot relate to them.

[vir doctus]

I'm only related to people who are related to me. No Czars are related to me, so I cannot relate to them.

Relation or no, the Czars are dead, so relating to them this evening would be a sin. :naughty:

[Meriweather]

Relation or no, the Czars are dead, so relating to them this evening would be a sin. :naughty:


Then clearly the Czars shall stay far away from us.

[Meriweather]

It looks like this thread is going to hit 20,000 sometime tomorrow; perhaps the day after.

[RayMan]

It looks like this thread is going to hit 20,000 sometime tomorrow; perhaps the day after.


Not if you get banned first.
























Just sayin'. :whistle:

[CID_0687]

It looks like this thread is going to hit 20,000 sometime tomorrow; perhaps the day after.
Why tomorrow? Going somewhere...I've got 49 minutes left of today...you 2 hours and 49 minutes.

Don't wuss out now.

[vir doctus]

I'm cheering for AZ.

[RayMan]

I'm cheering for AZ.


So that would be the whole alphabet?

[CID_0687]

So that would be the whole alphabet?
Perhaps she meant Oz...

[vir doctus]

So that would be the whole alphabet?

U's not so pretty... :cool:

[Meriweather]

Not if you get banned first.


Just sayin'. :whistle:



Why do you have a ban wish for me, RayMan?

Did you notice Fire Watch was in earlier? He was smiling. That means I'm doing just fine and no ban is being planned.

[RayMan]

Why do you have a ban wish for me, RayMan?

Did you notice Fire Watch was in earlier? He was smiling. That means I'm doing just fine and no ban is being planned.


I suppose it could mean that.

[vir doctus]

Perhaps she meant Oz...

Oz never could give nothing to the Tinman that he didn't didn't already have...

[Meriweather]

Why tomorrow? Going somewhere...I've got 49 minutes left of today...you 2 hours and 49 minutes.

Don't wuss out now.


You want to try to get this thread to 20,000 tonight? I hadn't thought of that. I thought it would just happen when it happened.

[RayMan]

U's not so pretty... :cool:


As Jefferson Airplane taught us, "You're Only Pretty as You Feel."

[vir doctus]

He was smiling. That means I'm doing just fine and no ban is being planned.

:)) You can't see it, can you? :))

[Meriweather]

I suppose it could mean that.


What else could it mean?

[Meriweather]

:)) You can't see it, can you? :))


Oh, great! What am I missing now?

[RayMan]

Anybody else remember the days when Meri when to bed at 6:30 pm?

Good times.

[vir doctus]

Oh, great! What am I missing now?

:silenced:

[vir doctus]

Anybody else remember the days when Meri when to bed at 6:30 pm?

Good times.

Are you calling an Intervention?

[RayMan]

Are you calling an Intervention?

I think we're beyond that. Unless FW is the interventor.

[Meriweather]

Anybody else remember the days when Meri when to bed at 6:30 pm?

Good times.

I was almost in bed at 6:30 p.m. tonight. Had to wait up for Daughter One. I can go to bed any time now. I'll try to plan another 6:30 p.m. time for you some night soon, RayMan, since you enjoyed them so much.

[Meriweather]

:silenced:

Don't be like that! Tell me!

[vir doctus]

I think we're beyond that. Unless FW is the interventor.

We could do our part and be more soporific around that time - we could call it a gift...

[vir doctus]

Don't be like that! Tell me!

What if you are not supposed to know? :eh:

[RayMan]

We could do our part and be more soporific around that time - we could call it a gift...


I can do boring. That's not an issue.

[CID_0687]

I was almost in bed at 6:30 p.m. tonight. Had to wait up for Daughter One. I can go to bed any time now. I'll try to plan another 6:30 p.m. time for you some night soon, RayMan, since you enjoyed them so much.
It would be a breath of fresh air.

[vir doctus]

I can do boring. That's not an issue.

What about your CIDekick?

[Meriweather]

What if you are not supposed to know? :eh:


The question now is, What if I am supposed to know?

Better tell me.

[Meriweather]

It would be a breath of fresh air.


Very well. Give me a date and I'll accommodate you.

[vir doctus]

The question now is, What if I am supposed to know?

Better tell me.

I would have to believe you are an idiot to think you are supposed to know this but don't. :confused:

[RayMan]

Very well. Give me a date and I'll accommodate you.


Does yesterday work for you?

[CID_0687]

Very well. Give me a date and I'll accommodate you.
Whenever, the more often it's done the more appreciated it would be.

[vir doctus]

Does yesterday work for you?

Yesterday with the Czars sounds like a good book.

[CID_0687]

What about your CIDekick?
Sure.

[Meriweather]

I would have to believe you are an idiot to think you are supposed to know this but don't. :confused:


I often overlook the obvious. Sad but true. I also have a short attention span. What is it I'm supposed to know? I think someone told me, but I forgot.

[vir doctus]

I think someone told me, but I forgot.

That would explain it.

[Meriweather]

Whenever, the more often it's done the more appreciated it would be.

All right. Starting yesterday, it will be as often as I can.

[vir doctus]

me

[CID_0687]

I often overlook the obvious. Sad but true. I also have a short attention span. What is it I'm supposed to know? I think someone told me, but I forgot.
By my setup we are on page 1 of 2000, for you it may be page 2000 or 2000...I suggest you begin scrolling.

[Meriweather]

me

:clap:

[CID_0687]

We made 20k BTW.

[Meriweather]

We made 20k BTW.

Do you want me to got to bed now?

[CID_0687]

Do you want me to got to bed now?
meh.

[vir doctus]

Do you want me to got to bed now?

I am, I can catch the scores tomorrow.