*** OUR GATHERING PLACE *** Fellowship and Laughter - Welcome to RF!

[meggers49]

Things aren't working out so well for me - Beowulf came up gibberish, the things I want aren't there, I quit for today. I'll just crawl back into my Hannity corner...

sucks for you, bonus for us!

[Koushi Shinigami]

Zowie.

Bad day at the homestead.

Guess I'll go kick over the hornet's nest....

[RayMan]

Bad day at the homestead.

Guess I'll go kick over the hornet's nest....

Don't forget to pull the tiger's tail while you're at it.

[vir doctus]

Zowie.

'Zowie' you know what he was going to say, or 'Zowie' Honourable Koushi opts for discretion? :eh:

[vir doctus]

sucks for you, bonus for us!

I've been knee deep in Lit. all day, I need the break.

[Meriweather]

Bad day at the homestead.

Guess I'll go kick over the hornet's nest....

It's been an hour. How did that kicking that nest turn out for you?

[Hadassah]

Would anyone like to hear a cute story involving a child? :mrgreen:

[Meriweather]

Would anyone like to hear a cute story involving a child? :mrgreen:

I would. Especially if said child is yours.

[Hadassah]

I would. Especially if said child is yours.

My son's half-sister. :mrgreen: Well, one of the three anyway.



I went to pick up my son yesterday after I got out of work. He was at his dad's house. I had on a fleece pull-over sweater with Elmo on it. My son's almost 3 year old sister is severely autistic and is obsessed with Elmo. When she saw Elmo on my shirt, she kept feeling him, kissing him, hugging him, and talking to him. She then proceeded to pull up my shirt to see if Elmo was there, too. When she couldn't find him, she poked her finger into my navel to look for him. :)) I thought it was sooooo adorable. My son, however, told me to never wear that sweater again. :))

[vir doctus]

My son's half-sister. :mrgreen: Well, one of the three anyway.



I went to pick up my son yesterday after I got out of work. He was at his dad's house. I had on a fleece pull-over sweater with Elmo on it. My son's almost 3 year old sister is severely autistic and is obsessed with Elmo. When she saw Elmo on my shirt, she kept feeling him, kissing him, hugging him, and talking to him. She then proceeded to pull up my shirt to see if Elmo was there, too. When she couldn't find him, she poked her finger into my navel to look for him. :)) I thought it was sooooo adorable. My son, however, told me to never wear that sweater again. :))

Why do you have an Elmo sweater? And is Barney in your collection? :shifty:

[Meriweather]

My son's half-sister. :mrgreen: Well, one of the three anyway.



I went to pick up my son yesterday after I got out of work. He was at his dad's house. I had on a fleece pull-over sweater with Elmo on it. My son's almost 3 year old sister is severely autistic and is obsessed with Elmo. When she saw Elmo on my shirt, she kept feeling him, kissing him, hugging him, and talking to him. She then proceeded to pull up my shirt to see if Elmo was there, too. When she couldn't find him, she poked her finger into my navel to look for him. :)) I thought it was sooooo adorable. My son, however, told me to never wear that sweater again. :))

Very cute story. Are there any other shirts your son is nixing?

[Hadassah]

Why do you have an Elmo sweater? And is Barney in your collection? :shifty:

Why not?


I also have Winnie-the-Pooh, Eeyore, and Tigger, too. No Barney. Barney is from the devil! *shudder*

[Hadassah]

Very cute story. Are there any other shirts your son is nixing?

Nope, that's the only one. :mrgreen:

[vir doctus]

Why not?


I also have Winnie-the-Pooh, Eeyore, and Tigger, too. No Barney. Barney is from the devil! *shudder*

Elmo is Barney's minion.

[RayMan]

'Zowie' you know what he was going to say, or 'Zowie' Honourable Koushi opts for discretion? :eh:


Number two please.

[RayMan]

Would anyone like to hear a cute story involving a child? :mrgreen:

I'll pass.

[RayMan]

Elmo is Barney's minion.


More of a flunky I think. But why quibble over trivialities?

[Meriweather]

I'll pass.

I suppose you would prefer a sad story involving an audit?

[vir doctus]

Number two please.

:shhh: Honourable Koushi is good people.

[vir doctus]

I suppose you would prefer a sad story involving an audit?

What? You work for the IRS now? :rolleyes:

[Meriweather]

What? You work for the IRS now? :rolleyes:

No. School District. My name came up in their recent audit.

[vir doctus]

No. School District. My name came up in their recent audit.

English please.

[Meriweather]

English please.

I am an emergency substitute teacher, which means if there is a real emergency that is going to last up to thirty days, I can take assignments longer than just a few days.

Emergencies aren't supposed to last longer than thirty days, but it seems emergencies and I have some kind of fatal attraction going. In other words, I'm working more than I should be.

[vir doctus]

In other words, I'm working more than I should be.

Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

[RayMan]

:shhh: Honourable Koushi is good people.

He's a nice fella.

[vir doctus]

He's a nice fella.

Approaching sweet.

[buflineks]

Hey, Ray,

Were has your playmate Cid been?
Did he hijack another bus headed for Cuba?

[Hadassah]

Elmo is Barney's minion.

Blasphemy! :snooty:

[Meriweather]

Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

It depends on who you talk to. People responsible for bean counting rules have been having fits over me for quite some time.

I chose substitute teaching because I only want to work two or three days a week. That schedule has very seldom come to pass, mostly because I never have learned how to say No.

I'll get a call from a school who really is in a bind--they say they just need someone to hold things together until they can find someone long-term. By the time I get this call things are in really bad shape, usually a combination of the first sub being disorganized and unable to handle students. I always saw myself as sort of mop up--go in, get things running again. All too often no one wanted to risk another sub and have the class fall apart again, so they would keep me on for the duration.

It did not take too long before I was being called before the emergency was full blown. I was put in place to prevent the emergency, and then kept there to keep any emergency at bay.

From there it progressed to, "I want someone good to take care of my students and classroom for a long-term assignment." That's when some began to shout there was no emergency--that I shouldn't be there until there was an emergency--or at least some semblance of an emergency.

[buflineks]

Blasphemy! :snooty:

well, they're at least "litter mates".

[Hadassah]

well, they're at least "litter mates".

Blasphemer! :naughty:


I think I need some Irish whiskey. I'm in shock that both vir and you would blaspheme so..........:((

[vir doctus]

Blasphemer! :naughty:


I think I need some Irish whiskey. I'm in shock that both vir and you would blaspheme so..........:((

Elmo sucks.

[Hadassah]

It depends on who you talk to. People responsible for bean counting rules have been having fits over me for quite some time.

I chose substitute teaching because I only want to work two or three days a week. That schedule has very seldom come to pass, mostly because I never have learned how to say No.

I'll get a call from a school who really is in a bind--they say they just need someone to hold things together until they can find someone long-term. By the time I get this call things are in really bad shape, usually a combination of the first sub being disorganized and unable to handle students. I always saw myself as sort of mop up--go in, get things running again. All too often no one wanted to risk another sub and have the class fall apart again, so they would keep me on for the duration.

It did not take too long before I was being called before the emergency was full blown. I was put in place to prevent the emergency, and then kept there to keep any emergency at bay.

From there it progressed to, "I want someone good to take care of my students and classroom for a long-term assignment." That's when some began to shout there was no emergency--that I shouldn't be there until there was an emergency--or at least some semblance of an emergency.


That shows how good and how well respected you are with the schools. :mrgreen::clap::dance:


Bean counters suck. :snooty:

[vir doctus]

Bean counters suck. :snooty:

Bean counter doll would be better than Elmo. :cool:

[Meriweather]

That shows how good and how well respected you are with the schools. :mrgreen::clap::dance:


Bean counters suck. :snooty:


That's sweet, Hadassah. In all honesty I do not do that much. As for the bean counters--I truly understand their position. But they didn't have to be quite so gleeful about me being caught.

[smyrna]

Good morning everyone. Can you believe it is Friday already. We are closing in on the end of the month...quickly. I''ve got to go in early this morning so have one stupendous day and be cool.:cool:

[Koushi Shinigami]

It's been an hour. How did that kicking that nest turn out for you?

She grounded me from 'her' internetz last night.

"I pay for my internet connection from my money...."


So much for we, us and ours.

[Koushi Shinigami]

:shhh: Honourable Koushi is good people.

:shhh: don'tletthesecretout.

[Koushi Shinigami]

Approaching sweet.

:redface:

[Koushi Shinigami]

Blasphemer! :naughty:


I think I need some Irish whiskey. I'm in shock that both vir and you would blaspheme so..........:((

http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo240/koushishinigami/Irishwhiskey-1.jpg

[vir doctus]

She grounded me from 'her' internetz last night.

"I pay for my internet connection from my money...."


So much for we, us and ours.

Before we married, my husband had family tell him to keep "his" money separate and inaccessible to me. Blessedly he was wiser than that. It always sends up signals when I hear people say they practice his and her money. :frown:

http://www.zeldaforums.net/forum/images/smilies2/viking.gif

[Meriweather]

She grounded me from 'her' internetz last night.

"I pay for my internet connection from my money...."


So much for we, us and ours.

My husband explained that "we, us, and ours" business to me early on. He said (with a grin), "That means what is mine is mine, and what is yours is mine also."

I just gave him a look and he never has tried to put that to the test. He's a pretty easy-going, generous type of guy.

[vir doctus]

:shhh: don'tletthesecretout.

I tried, but Honourable RayMan wouldn't whisper.

[Meriweather]

Before we married, my husband had family tell him to keep "his" money separate and inaccessible to me. Blessedly he was wiser than that. It always sends up signals when I hear people say they practice his and her money. :frown:

http://www.zeldaforums.net/forum/images/smilies2/viking.gif

I was going to say I can't imagine my husband with "his" money, but then I remembered: Yes, I can.

After we were married I realized he owed three times more than he had--and then came the notice from the IRS. Apparently tax forms were too confusing for him, so he figured he had paid the government enough and didn't worry about filing.

I had a few months of pure headache trying to get him all sorted out--turns out (even after the non-filing penalties) the government owed him enough in tax refunds so that we could pay off his bills and start fresh again. He hasn't handled money since--and that has been his choice. He's never had a problem asking me, "Hey, do we have enough for me to buy this?" even for relatively small purchases. I guess he thinks that's a small price to pay to have me take care of bills, banking, taxes, and keeping us (relatively) debt free.

[Koushi Shinigami]

My husband explained that "we, us, and ours" business to me early on. He said (with a grin), "That means what is mine is mine, and what is yours is mine also."

I just gave him a look and he never has tried to put that to the test. He's a pretty easy-going, generous type of guy.

I think I'm pretty easy going as well.

She's 100% stay at home mom with two boys 14 and 16 (means the kids are cordless now). You tell me, when she says "My money", what does that mean? It's always grated on me when I hear it. To me it sounds like what's hers is hers and what's mine is hers.

[Meriweather]

I think I'm pretty easy going as well.

She's 100% stay at home mom with two boys 14 and 16 (means the kids are cordless now). You tell me, when she says "My money", what does that mean? It's always grated on me when I hear it. To me it sounds like what's hers is hers and what's mine is hers.

I'm not sure how she is seeing it. My husband and I have always looked at it as the house, yard, and children needed taking care of, and the meals didn't magically appear on the table. My husband is awful at all of the above, so it was an early agreed upon fact he would earn the money to provide if I would take care of the provisions.

These past few years I've actually been working more than what either of us want. I can only take care of house, home, yard, meals, kids single-handedly when I am not working full-time. Throw in full-time work, and home suffers. He grumbles about that a little, but not too loudly and not too seriously.

[RayMan]

Hey, Ray,

Were has your playmate Cid been?
Did he hijack another bus headed for Cuba?

Naw. They just moved from the hotel into an apartment and the aparment has had plumbing problems. Also has high speed interent so he has been catching up on his youtubing.

[RayMan]

I think I'm pretty easy going as well.

She's 100% stay at home mom with two boys 14 and 16 (means the kids are cordless now). You tell me, when she says "My money", what does that mean? It's always grated on me when I hear it. To me it sounds like what's hers is hers and what's mine is hers.


"That trick never works."
Rocket J Squirrel

[Koushi Shinigami]

"That trick never works."
Rocket J Squirrel

"Rowwaaaarrrrrr!!!"


"Wrong hat."

[RayMan]

"Rowwaaaarrrrrr!!!"


"Wrong hat."

"I usually take a size nine."

[Meriweather]

I just saw an ad for real estate. It asked, "What makes you happy?"

I'm thinking that might be a good question for our list of threes, rather than telling on our spouses, lovable as though they are.

Three things that make me happy:

1. A clean house where all is in order.
2. Lemon meringue pie, or homemade bread.
3. The sound of a sleepy bird chirping just before dawn.

[vir doctus]

I'm thinking that might be a good question for our list of threes, rather than telling on our spouses, lovable as though they are.


:confused: Are you trying to say we cannot list our spouses as what makes us happy? :eh:

[terri910]

Three things that make me happy:

1. Cuddling in bed on a morning we can sleep in. (You can throw in a granddaughter-by-love into the cuddle, too, when she's there)
2. Looking at old photo albums
3. Travelling.

[terri910]

:confused: Are you trying to say we cannot list our spouses as what makes us happy? :eh:
I thought that would be a given.



Except for Koushi. :cry:

[Koushi Shinigami]

I just saw an ad for real estate. It asked, "What makes you happy?"

I'm thinking that might be a good question for our list of threes, rather than telling on our spouses, lovable as though they are.

Three things that make me happy:




http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo240/koushishinigami/Man_of_the_year_5th-1.jpg

http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo240/koushishinigami/zippermouth.jpg

http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo240/koushishinigami/zipherlip.jpg

[Koushi Shinigami]

:confused: Are you trying to say we cannot list our spouses as what makes us happy? :eh:

No. She's saying that you can't list "Complaining about your spouse" as what makes you happy.

[vir doctus]

Everything is better with Handsome.

But here is my Handsome-free list:

1. Reading
2. Frappuccino
3. Snorkeling

[RayMan]

Everything is better with Handsome.

But here is my Handsome-free list:

1. Reading
2. Frappuccino
3. Snorkeling

Very impressive. Not everyone can read and drink frappucino's while snorkeling.

[vir doctus]

Very impressive. Not everyone can read and drink frappucino's while snorkeling.

:arrow:...with one arm!

[Koushi Shinigami]

http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo240/koushishinigami/wonderwoman.jpg

[noelle12]

I'm in the hospital again. Grrrrrrrr!

[Koushi Shinigami]

:(

[vir doctus]

I'm in the hospital again. Grrrrrrrr!

Baby stay safe. :pray:

[RayMan]

I'm in the hospital again. Grrrrrrrr!


I'm sorry but it is probably better for the both of you. :hug:

[Meriweather]

I'm in the hospital again. Grrrrrrrr!

Hugs and prayers, noelle. I am so sorry you are having such a rough time.

[Meriweather]

Morning Devotional

But whenever you pray, go into your room and shut the door and pray to your Father who is in secret; and your Father who sees in secret will reward you. (Matthew 6.6)


Have you ever noticed that communication is difficult business? In the book AMERICA'S DUMBEST CRIMINALS there is a story about a blundering, wannabe robber with speech difficulties in Thibodaux, Louisiana, who just couldn't win for losing. Sam Lincoln entered Bob's Cafe and, speaking in his thick, backwoods Cajun accent, ordered the waitress to "give me all the money." Unfortunately, she couldn't understand a word he said. To her it sounded like he was ordering "a sieve with all the honey."

In desperation, Sam turned to a patron and told him to hand over all his money. The diner could have sworn that Sam said to "live a big pile of bunny." When the patron couldn't understand him either, Sam got so frustrated that he pulled out his gun. He pulled the trigger. Click. The gun wouldn't fire.

Now Sam grabbed the cash register and began to run. But he didn't get far only about three feet. The register was still firmly plugged into the wall, and he quickly ran out of cord. The register was jerked out of Sam's hands, and he fell. Humiliated and frustrated, he ran out of Bob's Cafe empty-handed. Waitresses and patrons breathed a sigh of relief. Someone hefted the register back up to its place on the counter.

Five minutes later, Sam was back. This time, he made sure he unplugged the register before making off with it. Sam was ecstatic for about three feet. A bystander knocked Sam down and made a citizen's arrest.

Communication is difficult. Even under the best of circumstances it is problematic. How many times have you heard the phrase, "What we have here is a failure to communicate"?

Don’t let that be true about your communication with God. Let us pray.


Devotions.net

[Meriweather]

Today's Presidential quotes are from our sixth President, John Quincy Adams.

(I trust everyone is paying attention. There will be a test on Presidents right here in the Religion Forum, once I reach President Barack Obama.) :mrgreen:

All men profess honesty as long as they can. To believe all men honest would be folly. To believe none so is something worse.

Duty is ours; results are God’s.

[Meriweather]

I wish everyone a great day. I'm off to mend some fences, or climb over a few new ones, I haven't decided which, yet.

[RayMan]

You really shouldn't make fun of someone's linguistic handicap Meri. I am shocked.

[meggers49]

My son's half-sister. :mrgreen: Well, one of the three anyway.



I went to pick up my son yesterday after I got out of work. He was at his dad's house. I had on a fleece pull-over sweater with Elmo on it. My son's almost 3 year old sister is severely autistic and is obsessed with Elmo. When she saw Elmo on my shirt, she kept feeling him, kissing him, hugging him, and talking to him. She then proceeded to pull up my shirt to see if Elmo was there, too. When she couldn't find him, she poked her finger into my navel to look for him. :)) I thought it was sooooo adorable. My son, however, told me to never wear that sweater again. :))

give her the sweater??

[meggers49]

Why not?


I also have Winnie-the-Pooh, Eeyore, and Tigger, too. No Barney. Barney is from the devil! *shudder*

my son, who is almost 23 has said that about Teletubbies since they came on the scene. someone's younger sibs were watching them. he gets the heebiejeebies watching them.


sidebar....when i brought home one of our chemical decon hazmat suits to try on, my husband said all i needed was a tv in my stomach and a coathanger on my head and i'd look like a teletubbie. he wasn't far from wrong. lol.

[meggers49]

My husband explained that "we, us, and ours" business to me early on. He said (with a grin), "That means what is mine is mine, and what is yours is mine also."

I just gave him a look and he never has tried to put that to the test. He's a pretty easy-going, generous type of guy.

my paycheck goes directly into our account. dh puts a fair amount of his business money in our account. all his retirement goes into our account. I keep birthday money i get (yes, my mother and grandmother STILL give me money.....i'm not complaining!!) for me and he uses business money for himself (his pay from it). so we have mine AND ours...never occured to me not to have ours. we live in the same house, we pull the oars together to make the boat float straight. sometimes it's not so straight, but we always get back on course....though we often argue about the route we take to get there, we do eventually!

[meggers49]

I'm not sure how she is seeing it. My husband and I have always looked at it as the house, yard, and children needed taking care of, and the meals didn't magically appear on the table. My husband is awful at all of the above, so it was an early agreed upon fact he would earn the money to provide if I would take care of the provisions.

These past few years I've actually been working more than what either of us want. I can only take care of house, home, yard, meals, kids single-handedly when I am not working full-time. Throw in full-time work, and home suffers. He grumbles about that a little, but not too loudly and not too seriously.

i get that too........and i don't understand what is so hard about the concept of pitching in. if both are working both should help. for some reason that concept eludes him. THAT is a much bigger source of discord than finances. I am not a maid, we both live here and we're both adults...BOTH should help.....what is hard about that?? nothing unless you are a throwback to a different time!! lol grrrrrrrr :mad:

[meggers49]

I just saw an ad for real estate. It asked, "What makes you happy?"

I'm thinking that might be a good question for our list of threes, rather than telling on our spouses, lovable as though they are.

Three things that make me happy:

1. A clean house where all is in order.
2. Lemon meringue pie, or homemade bread.
3. The sound of a sleepy bird chirping just before dawn.

1) a good meal with good conversation, with people i like
2) trees and flowers in bloom in spring
3) having my house in order and decorated for whatever holiday is at hand (almost never happens though...)

[meggers49]

Very impressive. Not everyone can read and drink frappucino's while snorkeling.

it's especially hard being limited to two hands, being as it's hard to turn pages without the other hand (occupied with frap) and that swimming thing.....she must be part dolphin to do it without using her arms!! (such a talented woman......but we already knew that!)

[meggers49]

noelle, how are you doing?? they giving you magnesium or terbutaline?

[terri910]

Our money has been "our" money from the day we got married. No "mine" or "yours."

Oh, except for those 9 days when the bank mistakenly switched our joint savings accounts to just hubby's name. But we both wanted that fixed asap.

Time enough for it to belong to one person, if/when one of us dies before the other.

[noelle12]

noelle, how are you doing?? they giving you magnesium or terbutaline?

They gave me terbutaline this morning, and I feel better now, but they are keeping me here for a few days.

[meggers49]

They gave me terbutaline this morning, and I feel better now, but they are keeping me here for a few days.

that's good. terbutaline is a smooth muscle relaxant...it was originally used as a respiratory drug for asthmatics, but they found it useful for preterm labor... beta adrenergic receptor agonist....

found this little blurb for pre-term labor. they have been using it for this for a long time....though it's still not 'formulary' use...

'Terbutaline is derived from a hormone called epinephrine, which is released when a woman is under stress (a response that's commonly called the "fight or flight" response). Stress causes many of the muscles in a woman's body to contract, so that she is ready to respond quickly. One type of muscle in the body (smooth muscle), however, relaxes when a woman is under stress. Since most of the uterus is made up of smooth muscle, the uterus will relax in response to a drug that contains substances like epinephrine.'

[noelle12]

I had another ultrasound this morning, and they found an area that could indicate a bleed, but they don't know for sure, and they also tested my blood and found that I have an elevated level of the C reactive protein. It's supposed to be .5, and mine was 27. That indicates inflammation, but it doesn't say where it is.

When I hit 23 weeks (on Monday) they will give me steroids (so much for my pro baseball career) to help the baby's lungs develop just in case I can't carry her to term.

[meggers49]

:pray: Lord, you allowed Joelle the miracle of this pregnancy, please protect her and her baby girl during this time. Allow her to continue in this journey of love that you have provided. Bless the baby and grant her health. Guide the doctor's hands in their care for both of your children.

We also ask that you give Joelle's family strength and help them, too. Especially her daughter, who is missing her mommy while she's in the hospital.

We know all is your will. We ask that your will be done with confidence that no matter what, it is to the good. Thank you Lord, for your help and your mercy.

Amen

[vir doctus]

Finis
Walter Savage Landor

I STROVE with none, for none was worth my strife.
Nature I loved and, next to Nature, Art:
I warm'd both hands before the fire of life;
It sinks, and I am ready to depart.

[Koushi Shinigami]

Grace of God Go I.

Lookin' down through a tide of no return
Is a field where the crops no longer grow
Parched is the land, strangled an' be damned
There for the Grace Of God Go I

Down beside where the riverbed sleeps
Is a man not knowin' what he should feel
Mocked by the wave that beats the waters edge
There for the Grace Of God Go I

If I ever hurt another like thee again
I would drown myself beneath your name
Lost was the child, we all once did hide
There for the Grace Of God Go I

Song is performed live in Vienna:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoVhGWxlq3A

3:49.

[Hadassah]

That's sweet, Hadassah. In all honesty I do not do that much. As for the bean counters--I truly understand their position. But they didn't have to be quite so gleeful about me being caught.

Oh posh! Maybe if those "bean counters" hired more good substitute teachers, they wouldn't have to have the schools rely solely on you. Obviously you do "that much" and you do it well because the schools have come to rely on you even when they're not in a pinch. :hug:


What does this mean for you that you were "caught"?

[Hadassah]

Bean counter doll would be better than Elmo. :cool:

I thought of you this morning when I heard about a new toy. The woman doing the news started out with "You've heard of Tickle Me, Elmo, right?" and I made sure I paid attention because I knew you'd want to hear about any new Elmo toys. :mrgreen: Only, this toy was not an Elmo toy. It was a new toy for adults called "Bash Me, Bernie". It's a minature Bernie Madoff doll, complete with a hammer, so that an investor can "bash Bernie". It was debuted at a toy show sometime this past week. It's not on the market, however, for us lowly peons. :lol:

[vir doctus]

I thought of you this morning when I heard about a new toy. The woman doing the news started out with "You've heard of Tickle Me, Elmo, right?" and I made sure I paid attention because I knew you'd want to hear about any new Elmo toys. :mrgreen: Only, this toy was not an Elmo toy. It was a new toy for adults called "Bash Me, Bernie". It's a minature Bernie Madoff doll, complete with a hammer, so that an investor can "bash Bernie". It was debuted at a toy show sometime this past week. It's not on the market, however, for us lowly peons. :lol:

:snooty: Can't approve of violence. :snooty:

[Hadassah]

I'm in the hospital again. Grrrrrrrr!

Oh sweetie, I'm sorry.

If it's any reassurance, lots of women have to be on bedrest, either at home or in the hospital and their babies turn out fine. :hug:

I am and I will be praying. :pray:

[Hadassah]

my son, who is almost 23 has said that about Teletubbies since they came on the scene. someone's younger sibs were watching them. he gets the heebiejeebies watching them.


sidebar....when i brought home one of our chemical decon hazmat suits to try on, my husband said all i needed was a tv in my stomach and a coathanger on my head and i'd look like a teletubbie. he wasn't far from wrong. lol.

He's right. Teletubbies are from the devil.

And which Teletubbie?

[Hadassah]

:snooty: Can't approve of violence. :snooty:

I'm not asking you to approve of violence. I just thought the story was funny. :lol:

[Koushi Shinigami]

Haddie, Joo evah get dat Irish whiskey?

Since it's Friday, a party song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAkFoHSwMF8

"The Likes Of You Again"

Here's to you, I sing for my daddy-o
As I lay him down to sleep
It's been so long, since I lost my daddy-o
Hope he's watchin' over me

Wednesday night is mornin' now
As I'm walkin' in the rain
The birds are screaming in my ear
Drivin' me insane

Half the clouds are empty
So the sun burst through the sky
The puddles show reflection
Of a face about to die

Just around the corner,
I was goin' round the bend
I ran into a staggerin' fool
Who said he knew my name

He poured himself a whiskey
And his face began to glow
Two men without an answer
Like a dog without a bone

Bringin' in the new year
As the bells began to ring
Fats is in the corner, she's just about to sing
Time to get another, before the final shout
You should have heard them roarin'
When they dragged the bugger out
And we'll never see the likes of you again

Jimbo came from slummin' town
A cold and dreary place
To summerland he found himself
The sun shun on his face

Met a girl called Minnie Pearl
Swore she'd always be his girl
Happy ever after, till the tide ran out again

Pour me all your sorrows
And I'll drink till you are dry
I'll love you in the mornin'
Christ, I'll love ya till you die

I'll never leave so never grieve
I'll be back before ya know
But Jimbo fell into a well
And never rambled home

Carried all his troubles in an unforgivin' bag
Back and forth through painted brick

The colours all seemed bland
I've traveled all these years, he said
To only get this far, so he crossed the street
Found a seat, his home is now a bar

And we'll never see the likes of you again
No we'll never see the likes of you again

There must be more to life, than this poxie life
All the agro, all the pain

So he disappeared into his final beer
But the glass was empty, once again, again, again

Woke up in an awful state
Dreamt I was at Peter's Gate
Beggin' for his mercy
And the crimes that were at hand

He told me he was much amused
To see this life I had abused
Best be on your way, but have a swig before you go

So I'm bringing in the New Year
As the bells began to ring
Fat's in the corner, she's just about to sing
Time to get another, before the final shout
You should have heard them roarin'
When they dragged the bugger out

And we'll never see the likes of you again
No we'll never see the likes of you again
No we'll never see the likes of you again

[vir doctus]

He's right. Teletubbies are from the devil.


As are Elmo, Barney, and Smurfette.

[Koushi Shinigami]

As are Elmo, Barney, and Smurfette.

Smurfffffffffffffffeeeeeeeeeeeettttttttttttttttttt te.... :drool:

[Hadassah]

Haddie, Joo evah get dat Irish whiskey?

Since it's Friday, a party song.




Nope, I nevah got me Irish whiskey. But dat's ok, mon. :cool:

[meggers49]

:snooty: Can't approve of violence. :snooty:

this, of course, coming from a viking who wields a club and a battle axe...... :shhh::whistle:

[vir doctus]

this, of course, coming from a viking who wields a club and a battle axe...... :shhh::whistle:

Prevention medicine.

[Meriweather]

i get that too........and i don't understand what is so hard about the concept of pitching in. if both are working both should help. for some reason that concept eludes him. THAT is a much bigger source of discord than finances. I am not a maid, we both live here and we're both adults...BOTH should help.....what is hard about that?? nothing unless you are a throwback to a different time!! lol grrrrrrrr :mad:

I understand why my husband has a hard time pitching in. He does not enjoy house or yard work. Further, he was truly convinced I simply loved the whole process. I would throw on music, grab a book, and cleaning supplies and sing or read my way through all the scrubbing and dusting. If you're going to do something, you may as well be happy doing it! Also, I am a quick, energetic worker, while my husband is very slow and methodical.

I have very little patience for whining. I'd rather take care of almost anything myself than listen to someone moan or whine about being asked to do something.

[Meriweather]

Oh posh! Maybe if those "bean counters" hired more good substitute teachers, they wouldn't have to have the schools rely solely on you. Obviously you do "that much" and you do it well because the schools have come to rely on you even when they're not in a pinch. :hug:

What does this mean for you that you were "caught"?

Auditors. They either had to believe that one school in particular was in a constant state of emergency, or that someone wasn't following all the rules.

[RayMan]

Meh.

There were a number of years when my wife was a stay at home and took care of most all the housework while I worked way too many hours.

Now her job hours run at least 10 hours a week more than mine and I do the dishes, laundry, grocery shopping and cooking. Like Meri, I whiz through the chores with my BB and headphones on listening to audio books, my wife moves at a slower pace. Just works well for me to do that stuff these days.

[meggers49]

I understand why my husband has a hard time pitching in. He does not enjoy house or yard work. Further, he was truly convinced I simply loved the whole process. I would throw on music, grab a book, and cleaning supplies and sing or read my way through all the scrubbing and dusting. If you're going to do something, you may as well be happy doing it! Also, I am a quick, energetic worker, while my husband is very slow and methodical.

I have very little patience for whining. I'd rather take care of almost anything myself than listen to someone moan or whine about being asked to do something.

you are much better about it than I am. I hate housework.....well, the tidying part, i don't mind wall washing and such, but i mind cleaning up everyone else's crap and i mind being the only one expected to do so. I mind people knowing something needs to be done and leaving it purposely because the expectation is it's my job. that infuriates me.

eta: it wouldn't bother me so much if i didn't know he did it before we got married and also that he OBVIOUSLY sees what needs to be done because he comments on it.

surest way to get me to NOT do something is point it out and not do it yourself.

[Meriweather]

you are much better about it than I am. I hate housework.....well, the tidying part, i don't mind wall washing and such, but i mind cleaning up everyone else's crap and i mind being the only one expected to do so. I mind people knowing something needs to be done and leaving it purposely because the expectation is it's my job. that infuriates me.

I don't think it's such a bad thing to be infuriated, meggers. I think everyone is lazy in some respect, and where I am lazy is in getting angry with people--that takes too much energy.

Sometimes it's actually funny listening to my husband and daughters argue. They all agree someone should be helping me--but disagree, vehemently, about who that someone should be. Usually by the time they solve the argument, it's all done anyway.

Nor do I mean to imply they do nothing. I don't get angry easily, and they like to keep it that way. But I do often question whether, a long time ago, I should have taken the time to absolutely insist everyone do a little more.

[Meriweather]

Oh, CID! Here is a recipe that calls for lattice work with bacon.


Bacon Explosion Time: About 3 hours


2 pounds thick-cut sliced bacon (pepper bacon)
1.5 pounds Italian sausage, casings removed
3 tablespoons barbecue rub (chipotle dry seasoning)·
3/4-cup barbecue sauce (raspberry chipotle)

Step 1: Using 10 slices of bacon, weave a square lattice like that on top of a pie. First, Place five bacon slices side by side on a large sheet of aluminum foil, parallel to one another, sides touching. Next place' another strip of bacon on one end, perpendicular to the other strips. Fold first, third and fifth bacon strips back over this new strip, then place another strip next to it, parallel to it. Unfold first, third and fifth strips; Told back second and fourth strips. Repeat with remaining bacon until all 10 strips are tightly woven.

Step 2: Preheat oven to 225 degrees or light a fire in an outdoor smoker. Place remaining bacon in a frying pan and cook until crisp. As it cooks, sprinkle bacon weaves with 1-tablespoon barbecue rub. Evenly spread sausage on top of bacon lattice, pressing to outer edges.

Step 3: Crumble fried bacon into bite-size pieces. Sprinkle on top of sausage. Drizzle with ½- cup barbecue sauce and sprinkle with another tablespoon barbecue rub.

Step 4: Very carefully separate front edge of sausage layer from bacon weaves and begin rolling sausage away from you. Bacon weave should stay where it was, flat. Press sausage roll to remove any air pockets and pinch together seams and ends.

Step 5: Roll sausage toward you, this time with bacon weave, until it is completely wrapped. Turn it so seam faces down. Roll should be about 2 to 3 inches thick. Sprinkle with remaining barbecue rub.

Step 6: Place roll on a baking sheet in oven or in smoker. Cook until internal temperature reaches 165 degrees on a meat thermometer, about 1 hour for each inch of thickness. When done, glaze roll with more sauce.

Slice into ½ inch rounds.

[vir doctus]

:naughty:

[Meriweather]

:naughty:

What!?! I haven't mentioned Lincoln all day!

[vir doctus]

What!?! I haven't mentioned Lincoln all day!

Some of us like Honourable CID enough not to kill him. :snooty:

[Hadassah]

Oh boy! My baby is definitely growing up. :redface:

[Meriweather]

Oh boy! My baby is definitely growing up. :redface:

I'm afraid to touch this one. I think I'll respond to vir's post.

[Meriweather]

Some of us like Honourable CID enough not to kill him. :snooty:

CID wants a Bacon Forum. It is beyond my powers to give him an entire Bacon Forum, but every so often I can give him a bacon post.

[buflineks]

For cid.

Yesterday we brought home our hog from processing. Bacon, sausage, pork steaks, chops, and ribs.

Took up half the chest freezer.

I'll think about you on sunday when we tie into the bacon for sunday brunch.

[Hadassah]

I'm afraid to touch this one. I think I'll respond to vir's post.

lol, probably a good idea. :confused:

[RayMan]

Some of us like Honourable CID enough not to kill him. :snooty:

You should start a poll thread. That theory might be falsifiable.

[RayMan]

Oh boy! My baby is definitely growing up. :redface:


Checked the history on the computer did you?

[RayMan]

CID wants a Bacon Forum. It is beyond my powers to give him an entire Bacon Forum, but every so often I can give him a bacon post.


I just got home from visiting a Shabbat Service - part of the final exam for my World Religions course - and had bacon and eggs for a late dinner.

Best of both worlds. Got to attend a great religious service and no guilt behind eating pork.

[RayMan]

CID wants a Bacon Forum. It is beyond my powers to give him an entire Bacon Forum, but every so often I can give him a bacon post.


He could start a Bacon Thread in TP or GIT if he really wanted to.

Methinks the lad doth protest too much.

[noelle12]

I'm a terrible housekeeper.

One of the "nice" things about being on bed rest is that I'm not supposed to clean. Normally that would mean that my house would slowly (or maybe quickly) deteriorate into a dump.

My mother-in-law to the rescue. While I lay around doing nothing but concentrate on hanging on to this baby, and reading this forum, she has cleaned my house. Why can she do it no problem, even with my daughter around, and I am totally incompetent? I don't know. Maybe it is that it is easier or more fun to clean somebody else's house than one's own.

It's a little embarrassing that she does this, but I am also very grateful.

[RayMan]

I'm a terrible housekeeper.

One of the "nice" things about being on bed rest is that I'm not supposed to clean. Normally that would mean that my house would slowly (or maybe quickly) deteriorate into a dump.

My mother-in-law to the rescue. While I lay around doing nothing but concentrate on hanging on to this baby, and reading this forum, she has cleaned my house. Why can she do it no problem, even with my daughter around, and I am totally incompetent? I don't know. Maybe it is that it is easier or more fun to clean somebody else's house than one's own.

It's a little embarrassing that she does this, but I am also very grateful.


You would probably amaze yourself with your speed and efficiently in cleaning her house if she stuck in bed and you went over to help.

It's like the old Blues Brothers quote:

"We're on a Mission from God."


Best wishes and heartfelt prayers for you and the little guy or gal.
If you have mentioned the baby's gender I missed that post.

[RayMan]

Makes me think about the whole deal with pro-abortion folk talking about fetuses.

Did you ever hear a pregnant woman joyfully exclaim, "I have a fetus inside me?"

All I ever remember them saying is, "I'm going to have a baby!'


That's probably the only semi-deep thing I will come up with this weekend so enjoy.

BTW - Would everyone be sure and remind Reeder that I am flying down to Anaheim Sunday morning and will be spending three glorious days in D-Land?


Love ya bro. :hug:

[noelle12]

You would probably amaze yourself with your speed and efficiently in cleaning her house if she stuck in bed and you went over to help.

It's like the old Blues Brothers quote:

"We're on a Mission from God."


Best wishes and heartfelt prayers for you and the little guy or gal.
If you have mentioned the baby's gender I missed that post.

It's a girl.

With me as their mom, they could end up tomboys. Or maybe not. Even though I don't like the color pink (at all), I can already tell that my daughter likes pink. I've tried to educate her to have the favorite color of red (coincidentally my favorite color), but she may just have a mind of her own on that score.

[Meriweather]

It's a girl.

With me as their mom, they could end up tomboys. Or maybe not. Even though I don't like the color pink (at all), I can already tell that my daughter likes pink. I've tried to educate her to have the favorite color of red (coincidentally my favorite color), but she may just have a mind of her own on that score.

I wonder if people's favorite colors change over time?

One of the things I find interesting is that I decorated by first daughter's nursery in yellow--and yellow has always been her favorite color. My second daughter's nursery was in light green--which has always been her favorite color.

My favorite color is turquoise. I remember the first favorite dress I ever had. It was turquoise, and turquoise has always been my favorite color. I wore that dress when I was less than a year old.

[smyrna]

I wonder if people's favorite colors change over time?

One of the things I find interesting is that I decorated by first daughter's nursery in yellow--and yellow has always been her favorite color. My second daughter's nursery was in light green--which has always been her favorite color.

My favorite color is turquoise. I remember the first favorite dress I ever had. It was turquoise, and turquoise has always been my favorite color. I wore that dress when I was less than a year old.

Wow...mine too. Aqua-marine! Good morning Meriweather, Noelle and everyone else that is awake this cool, glorious morning. Hope all is well and that you had a grand day yesterday. Any big plans for today?

Noelle, my wife is out of town until Wednesday and I am trying not to dirty up the house. Looking around, it has been 3 days already and I've got to say...it looks pretty good still. I was just wondering if you would loan me your mother in law on around this Tuesday?

[noelle12]

Wow...mine too. Aqua-marine! Good morning Meriweather, Noelle and everyone else that is awake this cool, glorious morning. Hope all is well and that you had a grand day yesterday. Any big plans for today?

Noelle, my wife is out of town until Wednesday and I am trying not to dirty up the house. Looking around, it has been 3 days already and I've got to say...it looks pretty good still. I was just wondering if you would loan me your mother in law on around this Tuesday?

:))

Oh, so sorry. I'll still be using her.

[noelle12]

I wonder if people's favorite colors change over time?

One of the things I find interesting is that I decorated by first daughter's nursery in yellow--and yellow has always been her favorite color. My second daughter's nursery was in light green--which has always been her favorite color.

My favorite color is turquoise. I remember the first favorite dress I ever had. It was turquoise, and turquoise has always been my favorite color. I wore that dress when I was less than a year old.

My favorite color is red. I went through a phase when my favorite color was forest green, but better sense prevailed. My college alma mater's school color is royal blue (but I think it has changed to navy blue, not sure), so I'll wear my school colors with pride, but I still like red the very best.

I painted my daughter's nursery yellow too.

[Meriweather]

Morning Devotional

Give thanks in all circumstances. (1 Thessalonians 5:18)


Gratitude

In order to have a grateful heart you must learn to be grateful for flawed people and imperfect gifts. Be grateful when your child attempts to make the bed, even though they make it imperfectly. Be grateful when your spouse expresses affection, even if they do it awkwardly. Be grateful that your body still moves around, even if it's more wrinkled and lumpy. Don't wait to feel thankful. The thinking and the doing - leads to the feeling. "Give thanks in all circumstances" calls for a decision and an act of your will, not an emotional response. It's why Americans call their annual holiday Thanksgiving - not thanks feeling.

James Dodson wrote a moving book called Final Rounds, in which he talks about the last months of his father's life. They were both avid golfers, and when his father had been diagnosed with a terminal illness James took him to Scotland so they could play golf together at some of the world's most celebrated courses.

At one point James's dad asked him about his marriage and family. James's answer was evasive; he was so consumed by his work that there was little time left over. These were the words of a dying father to his son: "I wish I could slow you both down...The danger of great ambition is that you work so hard, you may some day wake up and find that the things you really wanted, were the things you had all along."

Paul writes, "Wake up, O sleeper, rise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you" (Eph 5:14). Every once in a while we do wake up. And when we do, what we wake up to is gratitude for the things we take for granted.


waio.org

[Meriweather]

Today's Presidential quotes courtesy of our seventh President, Andrew Jackson.


Americans are not a perfect people, but we are called to a perfect mission.

Any man worth his salt will stick up for what he believes right, but it takes a slightly better man to acknowledge instantly and without reservation that he is in error.

[smyrna]

I am very comfortable in my relationship with my wife, my children and my family. My line of work required an unbelievable number of hours at work in a weeks time. The Lord knew that it took me away from the children I was to raise with my wife. She is a nurse and worked 2 nights a week, Saturday and Sunday, both 12 hour shifts. On 6 pm, Saturday night until Monday when the girls woke up from their nap, I was Mr. Mom. On Saturday night, we would stop at a restaurant or lounge and have dinner. Sunday morning, I would wake them up and take them to Church while my wife slept. This was our program for years and years and years. We were very fortunate and greatful that daycare was never required. Now the girls are on their own(speaking physically of course) and it warms my heart to hear them speak of their childhood raising. I especially enjoy calling their cellphones every Sunday morning at 8am and letting it ring just once. That means that it is time to get ready for Church.

Thank you Lord for the opportunity.

[terri910]

I wonder if people's favorite colors change over time?

They probably do....but I figure people might have different "favorite colors" for different things. My favorite color to paint the walls of my home is different than my favorite color for dishes, or bedspreads, and those are all likely different than my favorite color to wear.

But my LEAST favorite color has remained the same for 39 years.

When I married my husband we lived in the apartment he already had. The walls of every room were painted green, the carpet was green, the kitchen appliances were avocado green, and his mother, knowing of the color scheme, had thoughtfully sent us green towels for the bathroom. I don't know how my husband did it (because he lived there for at least a year before we married), because in the just-over-a-year that we lived there together I learned to hate green. Like a person who eats too much of one food and gets sick on it never wants to eat that food again, I never wanted to live around green again in my life.

I now prefer earth tones for the house, and I've committed to buying only red, white, blue, black and tan in clothes (which has worked out wonderfully....I can grab any clean thing in the closet and know it will go with anything else).

But you will never find a green towel in my bathroom, a green outfit in my closet or a green car in my driveway.

[Meriweather]

They probably do....but I figure people might have different "favorite colors" for different things. My favorite color to paint the walls of my home is different than my favorite color for dishes, or bedspreads, and those are all likely different than my favorite color to wear.

But my LEAST favorite color has remained the same for 39 years.

When I married my husband we lived in the apartment he already had. The walls of every room were painted green, the carpet was green, the kitchen appliances were avocado green, and his mother, knowing of the color scheme, had thoughtfully sent us green towels for the bathroom. I don't know how my husband did it (because he lived there for at least a year before we married), because in the just-over-a-year that we lived there together I learned to hate green. Like a person who eats too much of one food and gets sick on it never wants to eat that food again, I never wanted to live around green again in my life.

I now prefer earth tones for the house, and I've committed to buying only red, white, blue, black and tan in clothes (which has worked out wonderfully....I can grab any clean thing in the closet and know it will go with anything else).

But you will never find a green towel in my bathroom, a green outfit in my closet or a green car in my driveway.


I am with you on that avocado green. Shudder. I still like sage greens, and I do have sage green towels in one bathroom. Should you ever come to visit, I'll switch them to another color because no one should even be remotely reminded of avocado green again.

[Hadassah]

Checked the history on the computer did you?

No, it was what he said about a certain portion of his anatomy and how it reacted when he started thinking about girls. He prefaced his statement with "You know what's weird?". I had to explain to him that it wasn't weird; it was perfectly normal. Boy, was I red. :redface:

[Hadassah]

My favorite color is purple. :mrgreen:

[Meriweather]

No, it was what he said about a certain portion of his anatomy and how it reacted when he started thinking about girls. He prefaced his statement with "You know what's weird?". I had to explain to him that it wasn't weird; it was perfectly normal. Boy, was I red. :redface:

:hug: Ah, as his mom, you knew this day was coming! Have another Irish whisky!

[Meriweather]

My favorite color is purple. :mrgreen:

dark, lavender, or fuchsia? Those of us not limited to the eight basic Crayola colors want to know!

[Hadassah]

dark, lavender, or fuchsia? Those of us not limited to the eight basic Crayola colors want to know!

All of them. :mrgreen:

[meggers49]

My favorite color is purple. :mrgreen:

lol on your son.....it only gets better... :silenced:

my favorite color is blue. it's my husband's, too....unfortunately, HE picked the blue of my family room. there isn't a word to describe it. I have yet to figure out how something can be dark and bright at the same time.

I grew up with white walls.....or beige, but mostly white. white bores the snot out of me. The only room in my house that's white is my kitchen, which has light blue counters and trim on the woodwork. That's gonna change soon.....think i'm gonna go with a creamy yellow and blue.....my favorite combo.

every other room is a different color. the colors set the tones for the room, in my opinion. I am starting to get bored with them, so there will be some re-arranging and changes forthcoming. but white isn't on the list.

[Hadassah]

lol on your son.....it only gets better... :silenced:

my favorite color is blue. it's my husband's, too....unfortunately, HE picked the blue of my family room. there isn't a word to describe it. I have yet to figure out how something can be dark and bright at the same time.

I grew up with white walls.....or beige, but mostly white. white bores the snot out of me. The only room in my house that's white is my kitchen, which has light blue counters and trim on the woodwork. That's gonna change soon.....think i'm gonna go with a creamy yellow and blue.....my favorite combo.

every other room is a different color. the colors set the tones for the room, in my opinion. I am starting to get bored with them, so there will be some re-arranging and changes forthcoming. but white isn't on the list.


Oooohhhh, sounds like fun. :mrgreen:

[buflineks]

My favorite color is purple. :mrgreen:

As it should be Josephine.;)

[RayMan]

My favorite color is purple. :mrgreen:


Oprah?

Is that you?

[CID_0687]

:rolleyes:

[RayMan]

:rolleyes:

You're just mad 'cuz you didn't get to write it first. Don't be a hater.

[CID_0687]

You're just mad 'cuz you didn't get to write it first. Don't be a hater.
Could I BE anymore transparent?

[RayMan]

Could I BE anymore transparent?


If you were you could probably get a gig with The Avengers or The Justice League. I don't believe either has an opaque Superhero at this time.

[Meriweather]

Could I BE anymore transparent?

Morning, CID. I think of you each day as I post the daily devotional. I ask myself, Why isn't CID doing this? :((

Then it occurred to me: I shouldn't be asking myself that question; I should be asking you!

Ray says it's because you are youtubing. buf blames himself.

[CID_0687]

If you were you could probably get a gig with The Avengers or The Justice League. I don't believe either has an opaque Superhero at this time.
Justice League huh?

Then I could hang out with Wonder Woman....I like where this is going.

[CID_0687]

Morning, CID. I think of you each day as I post the daily devotional. I ask myself, Why isn't CID doing this? :((

Then it occurred to me: I shouldn't be asking myself that question; I should be asking you!

Ray says it's because you are youtubing. buf blames himself.
My apologies Miss Meri.

I haven't been on that much recently....I've been trying to fill my days with more real world things..and when I've been on here I've been doing more lurking than anything...I know, I know, I should be ashamed of myself...and I am.

I've let you down, I've let me down...but most of all, I've let Ray down.

[Meriweather]

My apologies Miss Meri.

I haven't been on that much recently....I've been trying to fill my days with more real world things..and when I've been on here I've been doing more lurking than anything...I know, I know, I should be ashamed of myself...and I am.

I've let you down, I've let me down...but most of all, I've let Ray down.

:hug:

They are kind of fun to do. Almost as fun as giving you a hard time. ;)

[buflineks]

Justice League huh?

Then I could hang out with Wonder Woman....I like where this is going.

D.C. sucks.

[Meriweather]

D.C. sucks.

Except for the Lincoln Memorial.

What's up?

[RayMan]

D.C. sucks.

Avengers have Ms Marvel and Tigra.

[buflineks]

Except for the Lincoln Memorial.

What's up?

break time.

And I mean "Detective Comics", not "District of Columbia".:))

[buflineks]

Avengers have Ms Marvel and Tigra.

meow.:whistle:

[RayMan]

break time.

And I mean "Detective Comics", not "District of Columbia".:))

'buf SMASH!'

[buflineks]

'buf SMASH!'

to cid,

"I was beginning to wonder if you'd ever show, bub."

[Meriweather]

break time.

And I mean "Detective Comics", not "District of Columbia".:))

:))

Got it. Most days I probably agree with your assessment.

[RayMan]

to cid,

"I was beginning to wonder if you'd ever show, bub."


When CID does finally show up you know that - "It's Clobberin' Time!'

[buflineks]

When CID does finally show up you know that - "It's Clobberin' Time!'

my faith in humanity is now reaffirmed knowing that Ray is a marvel-phile.:dance::dance::dance:

[RayMan]

my faith in humanity is now reaffirmed knowing that Ray is a marvel-phile.:dance::dance::dance:

I bought Avengers 1 and X-Men 1 off the shelf in '63 and never gave DC a backwards glance.

[RayMan]

My apologies Miss Meri.

I haven't been on that much recently....I've been trying to fill my days with more real world things..and when I've been on here I've been doing more lurking than anything...I know, I know, I should be ashamed of myself...and I am.

I've let you down, I've let me down...but most of all, I've let Ray down.

Word.

[vir doctus]

I learned something new today - bastardy bonds were payments required by fathers of illegitimate children to ensure the county would not have to pick up the tab for the child's upbringing. If the mother wouldn't name the father, she or her father would have to put up the bond or she would go to jail.

I know this because gggrandfather (who fought for the Union against his son, who fought for the Confederacy) died during the Civil War - widowed gggrandmother went on to have three more children with a local minister. :shifty:

[CID_0687]

I bought Avengers 1 and X-Men 1 off the shelf in '63 and never gave DC a backwards glance.
X Men was the only comic book I ever read...I'm sure you all recall my Wolverine obsession.

[CID_0687]

my faith in humanity is now reaffirmed knowing that Ray is a marvel-phile.:dance::dance::dance:
I thought that was illegal. :eek:

[RayMan]

I learned something new today - bastardy bonds were payments required by fathers of illegitimate children to ensure the county would not have to pick up the tab for the child's upbringing. If the mother wouldn't name the father, she or her father would have to put up the bond or she would go to jail.

I know this because gggrandfather (who fought for the Union against his son, who fought for the Confederacy) died during the Civil War - widowed gggrandmother went on to have three more children with a local minister. :shifty:

Wow. With a family tree like that no wonder you stutter.

[CID_0687]

I had a Jehovah's Witness at the door a couple of hours ago.

[Meriweather]

I had a Jehovah's Witness at the door a couple of hours ago.

Do we dare ask what you did with him?

[buflineks]

I had a Jehovah's Witness at the door a couple of hours ago.

Did you invite him in for a beer?:mrgreen:

[RayMan]

Did you invite him in for a beer?:mrgreen:


He said JW, not Land Shark.

[RayMan]

Do we dare ask what you did with him?

I'm betting CID has him hogtied in the back bedroom and is force feeding him the Bacon Explosion.

[CID_0687]

Do we dare ask what you did with him?
I considered throwing him down the stairs....but there's a policeman that lives in the building next door, so I chose against that.

He seemed to be agitated that I wouldn't invite him in.

I don't have anything against JWs....they're good folks...I don't agree with most of what they teach, but that wasn't my issue....I don't like pushy proselytizers...

It was about a 20 minute conversation...mostly him saying, "We wanna teach you what the Bible really says."

And me saying, "I've read the Bible, I've studied the Bible, for myself, I know what I believe to be true, and I can understand what it really says."

He asks what my faith is.

I tell him I'm a Pentecostal, and you would have thought I just slapped him in the face.

He says to me, "Well, I use to be Baptist...."

I said, "I use to be Episcopal, but when I found God for myself it was in the Pentecostal faith."

"Well we can show you things you've never realized."

"Dude, I'm a Bible scholar, I learn something new every time I pick up my Bible...even if I read the same verse 100 times I can find something in it that I didn't notice before. You very well may be able to show me something I haven't noticed, but I'm not interested. I am strong in my faith, and it's not gonna waiver."

"Well, here's my number if you decide you'd like to come to a Bible study with us."

"Thank you, I enjoyed our conversation, but I don't believe I'll be calling."

[CID_0687]

Did you invite him in for a beer?:mrgreen:
He'll be back, they always come back....I'll hit him up with that one next time.

[vir doctus]

"Dude, I'm a Bible scholar..."

:clap:

[CID_0687]

:clap:
That didn't come off as sounding too cocky did it?

[Meriweather]

CID, you did great. Confidence and cocky are entirely different things. You came across as confident.

[buflineks]

That didn't come off as sounding too cocky did it?

I especially like the "Dude" part.;)

[RayMan]

That didn't come off as sounding too cocky did it?

BTW - what's a Parbar? And I know it's not a roadhouse located near a golf course.

1 Chronicles 26:18 As for the Parbar on the west, there were four on the highway and two at the Parbar.

[vir doctus]

That didn't come off as sounding too cocky did it?

"Troglodyte" would have been cocky, 'dude' is just right.

[CID_0687]

BTW - what's a Parbar? And I know it's not a roadhouse located near a golf course.

1 Chronicles 26:18 As for the Parbar on the west, there were four on the highway and two at the Parbar.
The suburb on the west side of the Temple.


West Side homes.

[vir doctus]

West Side homes.

Tell us the story.

[CID_0687]

"Troglodyte" would have been cocky, 'dude' is just right.
:))

[buflineks]

"Troglodyte" would have been cocky, 'dude' is just right.

:)):))

[CID_0687]

Tell us the story.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7BQRGXFLJs

Natalie Wood. :drool:

[RayMan]

The suburb on the west side of the Temple.


West Side homes.

Dude is a Bible Scholar.

[meggers49]

I learned something new today - bastardy bonds were payments required by fathers of illegitimate children to ensure the county would not have to pick up the tab for the child's upbringing. If the mother wouldn't name the father, she or her father would have to put up the bond or she would go to jail.

I know this because gggrandfather (who fought for the Union against his son, who fought for the Confederacy) died during the Civil War - widowed gggrandmother went on to have three more children with a local minister. :shifty:

was her name Hester??

[meggers49]

Do we dare ask what you did with him?

covered him with bacon and threw him to the dogs?

[meggers49]

He'll be back, they always come back....I'll hit him up with that one next time.

start quoting scripture and pull out YOUR Bible to show it to him.

trust me.

[meggers49]

The suburb on the west side of the Temple.


West Side homes.

luxury condos and patio homes..... who'd think!!

[Meriweather]

Religion Forum Post of the Week


Here's my point.

People's sins will find them out, and God will bring them down. Most recently Ted Haggard, other examples are Jim Bakker and Jimmy Swaggart. All of these men, and many others are prime examples of sins finding us out.

When you mess with God and His people, God will expose you for the fraud you are, and you will fall hard. But many are ridiculed simply because they're a famous preacher.

I leave it to God and those who are qualified to decide if someone is a fraud.

--CID_0687--

[Hadassah]

Oprah?

Is that you?

Did you just call me fat? :eek: :snooty:


































































I keed! I keed! :razz: :mrgreen:

[Hadassah]

Have we heard from Miss Noelle recently? :pray::pray::pray:

[CID_0687]

Religion Forum Post of the Week
Aww shucks...I don't know that I'm deserving of such, but thanks.

[Meriweather]

Have we heard from Miss Noelle recently? :pray::pray::pray:

I noticed her scanning earlier in the evening, but didn't see any posting.

Mimi is also among the "missing."

Remember, Gem's son, who is in Iraq, is also in our prayers.

[Meriweather]

Aww shucks...I don't know that I'm deserving of such, but thanks.

From week to week, even RayMan and I don't know what is going to touch our hearts or our funny bones. "God will expose you for the fraud you are, and you will fall hard," were words of wisdom for us all and can have two applications.

You also had a quote Ray gathered just for kicks--you may or may not have been deserving of that, but for the above, thanks for the reminder.

[noelle12]

Have we heard from Miss Noelle recently? :pray::pray::pray:

present.

Yesterday my doctor came to see me, and told me to prepare myself for the idea of staying in the hospital for another 5 or 6 weeks. I was moved to the Ante Partum wing, and told I can wear my own clothes, so it is with great sorrow I bid adieu to these lovely and flattering and modesty inducing hospital gowns.

I'm doing pretty well. Please include my husband in your prayers, as he is feeling a little overwhelmed and stressed out with all this. (Let's face it, while he's always been helpful in caring for our daughter, he is assuming a new role as primary care giver, a role previously occupied by myself, and with that along with my stuff, he's feeling the stress.)

[Meriweather]

present.

Yesterday my doctor came to see me, and told me to prepare myself for the idea of staying in the hospital for another 5 or 6 weeks. I was moved to the Ante Partum wing, and told I can wear my own clothes, so it is with great sorrow I bid adieu to these lovely and flattering and modesty inducing hospital gowns.

I'm doing pretty well. Please include my husband in your prayers, as he is feeling a little overwhelmed and stressed out with all this. (Let's face it, while he's always been helpful in caring for our daughter, he is assuming a new role as primary care giver, a role previously occupied by myself, and with that along with my stuff, he's feeling the stress.)

Praying also for your husband, daughter, and those who may be assisting them, too. What time is it where you are, noelle? Are you sleeping well these days?

[noelle12]

Praying also for your husband, daughter, and those who may be assisting them, too. What time is it where you are, noelle? Are you sleeping well these days?

I'm on eastern time. I slept pretty well. My typical night is asleep by around 11:30, awake around 3:00 or 4:00 (bathroom), back to sleep after an hour or two, then awake whenever. Last night I didn't wake up in the middle of the night, and woke up around 5:30.

[Meriweather]

I'm on eastern time. I slept pretty well. My typical night is asleep by around 11:30, awake around 3:00 or 4:00 (bathroom), back to sleep after an hour or two, then awake whenever. Last night I didn't wake up in the middle of the night, and woke up around 5:30.

I hope your hospital stay goes by quickly for you. How much of the day will your husband and daughter be able to see you?

[noelle12]

I hope your hospital stay goes by quickly for you. How much of the day will your husband and daughter be able to see you?

The room I am in is not really a great place for a 17-month-old to hang out for a very long time, but I hope she at least comes to visit me every day. My husband can stay pretty much as long as he wants. There is a chair that folds out into a bed, and as long as we have a computer and internet here, he can entertain himself for a long time.

My daughter mostly enjoys throwing things on the floor, so after about 30 minutes or so, she is done for. She came to visit me last night for the first time since I've been here, and it went well, at least until she started climbing on my stomach and throwing everything. It was getting to be a little late, and getting towards her bedtime anyway.

[smyrna]

Good Sunday morning Meriweather and Noelle. Hope you ladies are doing well.

[Meriweather]

Thanks, smyrna. And how are you this fine day?

[noelle12]

Good Sunday morning Meriweather and Noelle. Hope you ladies are doing well.

Doing well thanks. And how are you?

[Hadassah]

I noticed her scanning earlier in the evening, but didn't see any posting.

Mimi is also among the "missing."

Remember, Gem's son, who is in Iraq, is also in our prayers.

I thought I saw a post or two by Mimi in General Interests recently, but I could be remembering wrong.


And reminder noted. :pray:

[Hadassah]

present.

Yesterday my doctor came to see me, and told me to prepare myself for the idea of staying in the hospital for another 5 or 6 weeks. I was moved to the Ante Partum wing, and told I can wear my own clothes, so it is with great sorrow I bid adieu to these lovely and flattering and modesty inducing hospital gowns.

I'm doing pretty well. Please include my husband in your prayers, as he is feeling a little overwhelmed and stressed out with all this. (Let's face it, while he's always been helpful in caring for our daughter, he is assuming a new role as primary care giver, a role previously occupied by myself, and with that along with my stuff, he's feeling the stress.)

:pray::pray::pray:

[smyrna]

Doing well thanks. And how are you?

Doing superb. My wife is in Tucson, visiting her parents. Her father turned 80 and also had a minor surgery that she wanted to be present for. Everything went well. I'm still trying to keep the house clean...remember, I could use your mother in law in about 48 hours...please...cherry on top. Anyways, I went quail hunting yesterday with my nephew and brother in law. We got a few quail, came home and cooked them up...delicious...no one shot the dog...or eachother...it was just a nice day and pleasant evening. Now it's Sunday morning. I just gave my two daughters their 8am, one ring on their cell phone reminder that...where ever you are...it is time for church. Again, everything is superb.

Is everything still going fine for you and your baby? You suggested something yesterday about a possible bleed. Do we know anything yet? How about the steroids, have you started those? This morning, I am going to give a prayer to our Lord for you, your baby and your family. Noelle, have a great Sunday and I hope you have lots of visitors.

[Hadassah]

*sigh* Another whopper of a storm is supposed to hit us tonight. No wonder I'm hurting so much this morning...stupid low pressure systems. I hope I can get the shopping done and visit my mom before the storm hits. Oh, I forgot to mention that my mom fell on the ice outside of her work. She broke her finger.

[Hadassah]

I don't mean to sound ungrateful, or whiny this morning. I want to make sure that I mention that God has so graciously answered one of my prayers and provided me with extra work hours. He provided enough that I'll have the extra money I need but not so many that I'm taking time away from my son or exhausting myself. (I'll explain the reason the hours became available later.)


Thank You, Lord. :pray:

[smyrna]

I don't mean to sound ungrateful, or whiny this morning. I want to make sure that I mention that God has so graciously answered one of my prayers and provided me with extra work hours. He provided enough that I'll have the extra money I need but not so many that I'm taking time away from my son or exhausting myself. (I'll explain the reason the hours became available later.)


Thank You, Lord. :pray:

May the Lord of peace and all good things bring you peace and good things.

[noelle12]

Doing superb. My wife is in Tucson, visiting her parents. Her father turned 80 and also had a minor surgery that she wanted to be present for. Everything went well. I'm still trying to keep the house clean...remember, I could use your mother in law in about 48 hours...please...cherry on top. Anyways, I went quail hunting yesterday with my nephew and brother in law. We got a few quail, came home and cooked them up...delicious...no one shot the dog...or eachother...it was just a nice day and pleasant evening. Now it's Sunday morning. I just gave my two daughters their 8am, one ring on their cell phone reminder that...where ever you are...it is time for church. Again, everything is superb.

Is everything still going fine for you and your baby? You suggested something yesterday about a possible bleed. Do we know anything yet? How about the steroids, have you started those? This morning, I am going to give a prayer to our Lord for you, your baby and your family. Noelle, have a great Sunday and I hope you have lots of visitors.

I hate to break it to you buddy, but you ain't gettin' my mother-in-law. She's workin' for me these days! You don't need her anyway. You sound like you're handling things just fine.

I haven't heard anything more about the bleed. The doctors are just trying to figure out why I'm having these preterm labor issues, and that is just one possibility.

My latest news, if I haven't already said (I can't remember), is that I have been moved to the Ante Partum wing, and could be a visitor in this fine facility for maybe 6 more weeks. They check on me several times every day, and all of the doctors, nurses, and hospital staff have been super. If it weren't for the bills I'll be getting down the road, I would say that things aren't too bad.

My real worries now are my daughter, that she is being cared for, and my husband, who is starting to feel overwhelmed with the situation. People offer me help all the time, but I want them to extend the offer to him. The difference is that I'm kind of a loud mouth, and he is more reserved, so I'm afraid people kind of forget about him.

[noelle12]

I don't mean to sound ungrateful, or whiny this morning. I want to make sure that I mention that God has so graciously answered one of my prayers and provided me with extra work hours. He provided enough that I'll have the extra money I need but not so many that I'm taking time away from my son or exhausting myself. (I'll explain the reason the hours became available later.)


Thank You, Lord. :pray:

Extra work is one of those blessings that comes with a catch. I'm glad you have the opportunity, without it creating too much of a drain on your time.

[smyrna]

I hate to break it to you buddy, but you ain't gettin' my mother-in-law. She's workin' for me these days! You don't need her anyway. You sound like you're handling things just fine.

I haven't heard anything more about the bleed. The doctors are just trying to figure out why I'm having these preterm labor issues, and that is just one possibility.

My latest news, if I haven't already said (I can't remember), is that I have been moved to the Ante Partum wing, and could be a visitor in this fine facility for maybe 6 more weeks. They check on me several times every day, and all of the doctors, nurses, and hospital staff have been super. If it weren't for the bills I'll be getting down the road, I would say that things aren't too bad.

My real worries now are my daughter, that she is being cared for, and my husband, who is starting to feel overwhelmed with the situation. People offer me help all the time, but I want them to extend the offer to him. The difference is that I'm kind of a loud mouth, and he is more reserved, so I'm afraid people kind of forget about him.

Six weeks of pure relaxation...when I grow up...I want to be just like you! What time does the chef start serving omlettes? I'll have a Spanish Omlette. Haven't had a good one in a long time.

Noelle, it may very well be the Lord's plan to put this extra weight on your husbands shoulders to let him see just how capable he really is. I have a good feeling regarding your situation and I just know everything will come up roses. I've got to jump in the shower and get ready for Church. I will pray for your whole situation...I mean it.

Take care.

[noelle12]

Six weeks of pure relaxation...when I grow up...I want to be just like you! What time does the chef start serving omlettes? I'll have a Spanish Omlette. Haven't had a good one in a long time.

Noelle, it may very well be the Lord's plan to put this extra weight on your husbands shoulders to let him see just how capable he really is. I have a good feeling regarding your situation and I just know everything will come up roses. I've got to jump in the shower and get ready for Church. I will pray for your whole situation...I mean it.

Take care.

I'm not sure you're going to get a good Spanish Omelet in the hospital. Now don't get me wrong, the food here is fine, but then again, I'm comparing it to my own cooking, which is nothing to brag about.

Thanks Smyrna for your kind thoughts. Have a great Sunday. Enjoy your church services today.

[Meriweather]

Morning Devotional

All your sons [and daughters] will be taught by the Lord. (Isaiah 54:13)

Win your Children for Christ

In the early 1800's, the Swiss educator Johann Pestalozzi wrote, "The best way for a child to learn about God, is to know a real Christian. The best way for them to discover the power of prayer, is to live with parents who pray." Did you know that statistically, 85% of all children raised this way develop a strong personal faith in Christ before they're thirteen?

At this point some questions arise, like:

(1) "Am I responsible for my child's choices?" Ultimately, no; potentially, yes! If you want to determine the spiritual health of your family, first check your own heart, vision, hearing and appetites.

(2) But my kids are already grown; isn't it too late? No, God's name is "Redeemer." He can give you another chance. Repent and commit your life to Christ, that's how generational cycles of failure are broken and God is brought back into the picture.

(3) But what if I'm afraid to bring a child into this evil world? That's the whole point; it's children of the light who push back the darkness. Instead of reacting out of fear or selfishness, win your family to Christ and use them to impact the world. "By faith Noah, when warned about things not yet seen, in holy fear built an ark to save his family. By his faith he condemned the world and became heir of the righteousness that comes by faith" (Heb 11:7).

(4) But how can I compete with the negative influences around me? Every study confirms that you, the parent, have the greatest influence - greater than friends, school or media - in determining the character and direction of your child.

When I woke my daughter for church early this morning (she's 18, but living at home) she asked me, "Do I have to go to Church?"

"Yes."

"I saw a quilt at school this past week. It said that forcing anyone into religion is a bad smell in God's nose."

"I'm not forcing you. I'm giving you the opportunity."

"I still have to go?"

"Yes. I can't give you the opportunity if you don't go."

She told me she wished I would learn how to argue properly.

[Meriweather]

Today's Presidential quote is from our eighth President, Martin Van Buren.

The connection which formerly existed between the Government and banks was in reality injurious to both, as well as to the general interests of the community at large.

[terri910]

What do you all believe causes "deja vu" in places you've never actually been before?

[vir doctus]

What do you all believe causes "deja vu" in places you've never actually been before?

:arrow: "We hypothesize that individual neuroanatomy and disturbances in gamma oscillations or in the dopaminergic system played a role in DBS-elicited DV [deja vu] in our patient."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18804184?ordinalpos=5&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsP anel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

:))

[terri910]

:arrow: "We hypothesize that individual neuroanatomy and disturbances in gamma oscillations or in the dopaminergic system played a role in DBS-elicited DV [deja vu] in our patient."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18804184?ordinalpos=5&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsP anel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

:))
:confused:
I need a translation.

[terri910]

Sometimes I know exactly why I get those feelings.....smells, sounds...sometimes just the way the air feels around me (maybe a combination of temperature and humidity, etc.)....

But there have been times when I've been standing in a place I've never been before and felt as if I've stood looking at that exact view before.

Maybe, like people, places have "doubles" in the world....?

[vir doctus]

Sometimes I know exactly why I get those feelings.....smells, sounds...sometimes just the way the air feels around me (maybe a combination of temperature and humidity, etc.)....

But there have been times when I've been standing in a place I've never been before and felt as if I've stood looking at that exact view before.

Maybe, like people, places have "doubles" in the world....?

I get deja vu every time I have vertigo. :shifty:

[noelle12]

:arrow: "We hypothesize that individual neuroanatomy and disturbances in gamma oscillations or in the dopaminergic system played a role in DBS-elicited DV [deja vu] in our patient."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18804184?ordinalpos=5&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsP anel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

:))

:confused:

[terri910]

I get deja vu every time I have vertigo. :shifty:
I get......yikes, I think the correct word is "nauseated" every time I have vertigo. (Not "nauseous," right?)

By the way, vir, how is the heavier vest working out for you?

[vir doctus]

I get......yikes, I think the correct word is "nauseated" every time I have vertigo. (Not "nauseous," right?)

By the way, vir, how is the heavier vest working out for you?

Nauseated is correct.

I haven't really been able to try the heavier vest yet because I have been so sick it is too draining to carry an extra 40 pounds. Very kind of you to ask, though. http://www.zeldaforums.net/forum/images/smilies2/viking.gif

[Meriweather]

What do you all believe causes "deja vu" in places you've never actually been before?


I've heard it theorized as a misfiring of the brain. For some reason a present experience is copied and shot off to the stored memory section of the brain, which translates back as us having both the present experience but also a memory of it. (Deja vu.)

[Koushi Shinigami]

What do you all believe causes "deja vu" in places you've never actually been before?

Glitch in the Matrix. :cool:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_KmNZNT5xw

The scene from the movie that explains it. 49 seconds

[vir doctus]

I've heard it theorized as a misfiring of the brain.

I believe I covered that already. :cool:



:))

[Meriweather]

I believe I covered that already. :cool:



:))

I decided if the others couldn't understand you I wouldn't be able to either. So instead of using scientific words and methods, I chose off the cuff. ;)

[vir doctus]

I decided if the others couldn't understand you I wouldn't be able to either. So instead of using scientific words and methods, I chose off the cuff. ;)

:razz:

[Hadassah]

Hi everyone. :hug:

[Meriweather]

Hi, Hadassah.

I have a question for everyone that I have been pondering since I read an editorial in the Op-Ed Forum by Catholic-Citizen. He made the statement that government is not meant to be protected from religion or faith-based values.

I found this thought provoking due to all that we hear about separation of Church and State and that religious values are supposed to be kept out of government.

Do you think some are trying to use separation of Church and State as an argument of why government must support of some issues that also have an element of morality to them so as not to be in violation of separation of Church and State?

[vir doctus]

Hi, Hadassah.

I have a question for everyone that I have been pondering since I read an editorial in the Op-Ed Forum by Catholic-Citizen. He made the statement that government is not meant to be protected from religion or faith-based values.

I found this thought provoking due to all that we hear about separation of Church and State and that religious values are supposed to be kept out of government.

Do you think some are trying to use separation of Church and State as an argument of why government must support of some issues that also have an element of morality to them so as not to be in violation of separation of Church and State?

If your dude who sucks rocks was right about the government being of/by the people it should lead one to believe that separating it from religion is not only impossible but foolish.

[No big words, much harder to understand.]

[Meriweather]

If your dude who sucks rocks was right about the government being of/by the people it should lead one to believe that separating it from religion is not only impossible but foolish.

[No big words, much harder to understand.]

That is my thinking. Not that I am discussing issues of Lincoln's day. But it seems to me people sometimes see a way of using the "Separation of Church and State" argument as an end run around the democratic process. They also play the card that minorities must be protected. It seems to me there is a lot of screaming about "separation of church and state" and "rights of minorities" to attempt to push through laws via the court system that otherwise would not be passed via legislation/voters.

[meggers49]

Morning Devotional

All your sons [and daughters] will be taught by the Lord. (Isaiah 54:13)



When I woke my daughter for church early this morning (she's 18, but living at home) she asked me, "Do I have to go to Church?"

"Yes."

"I saw a quilt at school this past week. It said that forcing anyone into religion is a bad smell in God's nose."

"I'm not forcing you. I'm giving you the opportunity."

"I still have to go?"

"Yes. I can't give you the opportunity if you don't go."

She told me she wished I would learn how to argue properly.

and she agrees with the sentiment listed above? or does she think that maybe God appreciates the fact that even though she'd rather be sleeping she'll sacrifice that sleep to give him thanks for school and a warm comfortable bed?

my daugther doesn't go to church as much as i'd like. my son doesn't go at all any more. I'm hoping one day they'll get back into it. even though they don't go, I know they are believers in God, so I'm hoping for the best with them...

sigh..

they have a father who doesn't go to church, so they'll have to figure it out for themselves.

[meggers49]

Today's Presidential quote is from our eighth President, Martin Van Buren.

The connection which formerly existed between the Government and banks was in reality injurious to both, as well as to the general interests of the community at large.

maybe someone should send that one to barry.....:whistle:

[meggers49]

What do you all believe causes "deja vu" in places you've never actually been before?

glitch in the space/time continuum?? a transient return of an event known prior to birth....all time is present in heaven...i think....i know it's all in the present to God....so it's a moment we had seen ...

ok, someone put this thought into English because i'm not saying it right...


and by the way......''what vir quoted..." http://bestsmileys.com/clueless/5.gif

[meggers49]

Hi, Hadassah.

I have a question for everyone that I have been pondering since I read an editorial in the Op-Ed Forum by Catholic-Citizen. He made the statement that government is not meant to be protected from religion or faith-based values.

I found this thought provoking due to all that we hear about separation of Church and State and that religious values are supposed to be kept out of government.

Do you think some are trying to use separation of Church and State as an argument of why government must support of some issues that also have an element of morality to them so as not to be in violation of separation of Church and State?


government isn't to be protected from religion, religion is to be protected from government.


we are protected from the government forcing us to choose A particular faith. we are not to have the government be precluded from having faith and religion involved in it. that is not forebidden.

It also is a state's rights issue that was not an issue at one time, which is why Maryland was a Catholic State, Pennsylvania was The Quaker State, etc. there were State sponsored/mandated religions. There were others who lived in those states, but there was also a religion that was endorsed by that particular place.

To seperate faith from politics is a new thing. And we can see what a wonderful thing having them seperate is.

[Meriweather]

and she agrees with the sentiment listed above? or does she think that maybe God appreciates the fact that even though she'd rather be sleeping she'll sacrifice that sleep to give him thanks for school and a warm comfortable bed?

my daugther doesn't go to church as much as i'd like. my son doesn't go at all any more. I'm hoping one day they'll get back into it. even though they don't go, I know they are believers in God, so I'm hoping for the best with them...

sigh..

they have a father who doesn't go to church, so they'll have to figure it out for themselves.

My husband is an atheist who did not want his children attending church. The girls grew up with the story of how I won that battle. Early on they saw me being "ganged up on" by husband and inlaws about the issue, and of course they made their stand with Mom.

I think the other thing that may have helped is the times I discussed advertising with them--and the gimmicks that are used to sell a product or even a point.

My daughter easily saw the points each form of "advertising" was taking. One was trying to make her feel she was being forced; the other that she was being given an opportunity. She knows she is quickly approaching the time she will be moving out and all the decisions will be hers. Until then, she is willing to do the things that are important to me the way I wish. She's a good kid--mostly.

[Meriweather]

government isn't to be protected from religion, religion is to be protected from government.


we are protected from the government forcing us to choose A particular faith. we are not to have the government be precluded from having faith and religion involved in it. that is not forebidden.

It also is a state's rights issue that was not an issue at one time, which is why Maryland was a Catholic State, Pennsylvania was The Quaker State, etc. there were State sponsored/mandated religions. There were others who lived in those states, but there was also a religion that was endorsed by that particular place.

To seperate faith from politics is a new thing. And we can see what a wonderful thing having them seperate is.

I don't mind separation of church and state. What I do mind is people manipulating the state in ways it was never intended to be manipulated. Instead of letting issues stand and fall on their own merits, I see people trying to fit them under a umbrella such as "Separation of Church and State" or "civil rights." Then, instead of the issue being decided by the people, it is decided by a handful of judges. We have seen this recently in California, so I suppose I am a bit sensitive about it. It's a mentality of, "If we can't get the rest of the population to go along with what we want, let's make it so a handful of judges decide."

Okay, I'm done. In keeping with rules about discussions of politics in RF, I was only after a quick conversation here. I was wondering if anyone else was seeing it quite the way I was.

[vir doctus]

and by the way......''what vir quoted..." http://bestsmileys.com/clueless/5.gif

And I was going to say, "At least Fair Meggers will understand."


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[Meriweather]

And I was going to say, "At least Fair Meggers will understand."


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We all appreciate your efforts to push us cretins to ever higher plateaus of learning. But it's Sunday, and we're not working as hard at it today. :razz:

[vir doctus]

We all appreciate your efforts to push us cretins to ever higher plateaus of learning. But it's Sunday, and we're not working as hard at it today. :razz:

Troglodytes...

[Meriweather]

Troglodytes...

http://uo.stratics.com/content/ml/images/creatures/trogledyte_th.jpg

For those wondering what we Troglodytes look like...

[terri910]

I've heard it theorized as a misfiring of the brain. For some reason a present experience is copied and shot off to the stored memory section of the brain, which translates back as us having both the present experience but also a memory of it. (Deja vu.)
For some reason my brain misfires more in and about England.

[Meriweather]

For some reason my brain misfires more in and about England.

Does anyone know anything recent about the theory of ancestral memory? Are the misfires in historical places or in modern places? Have you kept a journal?

[terri910]

I just got back from a couple of hours "reunion" with former colleagues that worked for the same actress I did....she and her husband stopped by on their way to an Oscar party....

The job may have been crazy, sometimes, but she always managed to surround herself with very nice people!

[meggers49]

And I was going to say, "At least Fair Meggers will understand."


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fret not, i did indeed unnerstan....just had to READ the article....duhslappin' head....yew can putcher wings back on ya one armed angel, i gotcher back! ;)

[Meriweather]

I just got back from a couple of hours "reunion" with former colleagues that worked for the same actress I did....she and her husband stopped by on their way to an Oscar party....

The job may have been crazy, sometimes, but she always managed to surround herself with very nice people!


Happy times, hmmm? Good for you!

[terri910]

Does anyone know anything recent about the theory of ancestral memory? Are the misfires in historical places or in modern places? Have you kept a journal?
Are there "modern places" in England? *LOL*

I was remembering one time in particular, which was weirder than most. I was looking at a photograph of a small coastal village in England -- an area I had not yet visited. The photograph was taken from the top of a street that led down to the small harbor below. The weird thing about it was that I felt as if I'd been there, but I didn't remember THAT view; I "remembered" the view from the harbor, looking UP the street. I did visit that village (Polperro) a few years later.

No journal. Who wants recorded evidence of brain misfires? :shifty:

Ancestral memory.....hmmmmm....

[terri910]

I believe I had ancestors in that southwestern part of England.

When my friend and her husband were driving me around this part of England, we stopped in Truro. There was a small museum there, so we decided to go in.....very interesting....but at one point I turned a corner and was faced with an entry to a specific area, with a large sign on top that said "Hawkins Laboratory"...which came from an old building. The section was devoted to different ways in which the Hawkins' had been involved in the history of the area...scoundrels and pirates, mostly.

Hawkins is my maiden name. It was one of those serendipitous-bordering-on -weird moments.....

[vir doctus]

fret not, i did indeed unnerstan....just had to READ the article....duhslappin' head....yew can putcher wings back on ya one armed angel, i gotcher back! ;)

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[vir doctus]

I believe I had ancestors in that southwestern part of England.

When my friend and her husband were driving me around this part of England, we stopped in Truro. There was a small museum there, so we decided to go in.....very interesting....but at one point I turned a corner and was faced with an entry to a specific area, with a large sign on top that said "Hawkins Laboratory"...which came from an old building. The section was devoted to different ways in which the Hawkins' had been involved in the history of the area...scoundrels and pirates, mostly.

Hawkins is my maiden name. It was one of those serendipitous-bordering-on -weird moments.....

MIL had roots in No. England, while were there we took pictures and did some research (relatives being fined for public displays of affection) - years later we ended up giving that family name to our eldest Russian Princess.

[Meriweather]

Are there "modern places" in England? *LOL*

I was remembering one time in particular, which was weirder than most. I was looking at a photograph of a small coastal village in England -- an area I had not yet visited. The photograph was taken from the top of a street that led down to the small harbor below. The weird thing about it was that I felt as if I'd been there, but I didn't remember THAT view; I "remembered" the view from the harbor, looking UP the street. I did visit that village (Polperro) a few years later.

No journal. Who wants recorded evidence of brain misfires? :shifty:

Ancestral memory.....hmmmmm....

That is an interesting experience, terri! Brain miscues are just one possibility--it may not be the correct one.

[Hadassah]

What are we doing having intelligent conversations in here? I thought we wanted to have fun.:snooty:

[terri910]

What are we doing having intelligent conversations in here? I thought we wanted to have fun.:snooty:
I'm having fun in here and watching the pre-Oscar show on TV....I'm sure the latter is dumbing down any of my posts in here...*LOL*

[Meriweather]

What are we doing having intelligent conversations in here? I thought we wanted to have fun.:snooty:

Hold on a sec, and I'll get out the lamp shades!

http://www.sweatgirls.org/lampshade2.jpg

Better?

[terri910]

Hold on a sec, and I'll get out the lamp shades!

http://www.sweatgirls.org/lampshade2.jpg

Better?
Loving that photo.....

[Hadassah]

Hold on a sec, and I'll get out the lamp shades!

http://www.sweatgirls.org/lampshade2.jpg

Better?

:)):clap:

Great pic, Meri! :hug: You always find the greatest pics.