*** OUR GATHERING PLACE *** Fellowship and Laughter - Welcome to RF!

[RayMan]

Bourgeois stores. I may be a snob, but I like my snobby money in my snobby pocket. :cool:

Walked right past Nordstrom's to shop at Ross in Corta Madera, eh?

[vir doctus]

Walked right past Nordstrom's to shop at Ross in Corta Madera, eh?

B&N was my CM store before I got my Kindle. :shifty:

Do you know how many books I can put on my Kindle for the cost of the cheapest thing in Nordstrom's? :eek:

[RayMan]

B&N was my CM store before I got my Kindle. :shifty:

Do you know how many books I can put on my Kindle for the cost of the cheapest thing in Nordstrom's? :eek:



"Literally billions and billions."
Carl Sagan


I will probably break down and get a Kindle one of these days, but my main quiet time these days is whilst commuting in the van. I have Audible books on my BlackBerry. Stick the earbuds in and I am in my own little world for forty five minutes.

When I get home I crack out the reading for the Online classes.

[vir doctus]

"Literally billions and billions."
Carl Sagan


I will probably break down and get a Kindle one of these days, but my main quiet time these days is whilst commuting in the van. I have Audible books on my BlackBerry. Stick the earbuds in and I am in my own little world for forty five minutes.

When I get home I crack out the reading for the Online classes.

It is perfect for me, especially in my pre-Jamie Sommers condition. :cool:

[RayMan]

It is perfect for me, especially in my pre-Jamie Sommers condition. :cool:

Been working on your Pop Culture refs I see. Good for you. That thirty pound piece of body armor you are going to get should set you well on your way to bionic strength and endurance.

[vir doctus]

Been working on your Pop Culture refs I see. Good for you.

Remember that part about me having brothers? In their teenage lusting years they had posters. :shifty:

[RayMan]

Remember that part about me having brothers? In their teenage lusting years they had posters. :shifty:


Ah. Too young for Farrah and Linda Carter?

[Fire Watch]

http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?p=48650121#post48650121

[Koushi Shinigami]

I'm happy there's a backbone, but I'm afraid it ends in an area I don't want speaking!:eek:

:))


:shrug: Playing with those ones and zeros is what made Bill Gates the richest man in the world for 13 straight years. ;)

[Koushi Shinigami]

Ah. Too young for Farrah and Linda Carter?

I'm not. :evil:

[Mimiheart]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Nd37AkFsVI

This was on the soundtrack for the original Scooby show. What on EARTH were they on when they wrote it?

[Hadassah]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Nd37AkFsVI

This was on the soundtrack for the original Scooby show. What on EARTH were they on when they wrote it?

:eek: Only God and Mickey Mouse know the answer to that one.

[Meriweather]

Morning Devotional

Train up a child in the way he should go. (Proverbs 22:6)

The Way That's Best for your Child

You say, "She's such an obedient child, but her brother breaks every rule!" Or, "Our first child's so organized; our second's a disaster area!" Children are created unique. Dealing with that reality is a parent's great challenge. Look at God's directives in Proverbs 22:6.
(1) "Train up a child." Thoughtful, loving, productive, happy children don't just evolve - they're trained. Our latchkey generation has proved "A child left to himself disgraces his [parents]" (Pr 29:15 NIV). Wise parents choose their child's direction, then maintain it by positive reinforcement and consistent discipline. They mold their child's attitude and behavior in line with God's Word. Solomon's reference to a child in this Scripture indicates a pre-teen who can still be molded. If you miss those early training years your job's tough, but with God's help, not impossible.
(2) "In the way he should go." Ever hear of "cross-grain parenting"? It's trying to make your child something they're not meant to be. Forcing square pegs into round holes invites rebellion in spirited kids and creativity-destroying conformity in compliant ones. This Scripture in The Amplified Bible advocates training a child, "In the way... [in keeping with his individual gift or bent]." Study your child's gifts, then direct them accordingly. Putting square pegs into square holes reduces resistance, invites cooperation and recognizes your child's God-ordained destiny. When it's their path, not yours, they'll commit to it.
(3) "When he is old he will not depart from it." When they're in the place God designed them for, nobody needs to manipulate, control or threaten them. They're invested, creative, challenged, fulfilled and happy to grow up in the square hole God shaped for them!waio.org

[meggers49]

Ethical question.

I just invested another $100+ into another weight vest to try and improve my quality of life. Dear Old Mom thinks I should go through my doctor to get these things because Tri-Care will pay for all the costs. I think that is wrong for two reasons:

1. The "device designer" will charge three times the amount I paid and the taxpayer picks up that bloated bill for something I can easily afford.

2. I could have sued the doctor who did this to me but chose not to; in my mind, placing the burden on me for standing on principle.

Is there a right thing for a Christian to do? I haven't told Mom to 'go fly a kite' but it is getting tiresome explaining to her why we aren't suing and why we aren't trying to grab as much as we can for free. Perhaps I am wrong to get annoyed with her badgering...

Thoughts?


i don't know about the Christian thing to do, but, are you sure the device would be more expensive with insurance behind it?
you can get a price quote then when you pay for it, produce insurance information. You pay for your insurance, you might as well get use out of it.

As to your mom....tell her firmly, "mother, for the very last time. We are not suing. He didn't do it maliciously. Things happen. We are trying to do the best we can. Don't mention it again."

then.......make a sign or something like a sign with a slash through it that says "no suing" or something....

that or tell her you will be 'putting her on iggy' if she doesn't stop and you won't speak to her until she changes the subject.

[meggers49]

http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/qq312/Lorraine-Elizabeth/tn_Snowmen.jpg

The snowmen are coming! The snowmen are coming! I think their intent is to discuss global warming with Al Gore.

that reminds me of Calvin and Hobbes.

[meggers49]

A better question. We have eight birds. One bird flies upstairs. The youngest, Apollo, flies upstairs. Now how many birds do we have?

how many cats do you have?? THAT is the question.

[meggers49]

have a good day everyone. I'm going to bed.

[Meriweather]

that reminds me of Calvin and Hobbes.

http://www.transbuddha.com/images/uploads/calvinwagon_thumb.jpg

Great comic strip.

[Meriweather]

how many cats do you have?? THAT is the question.

The question is how many cats will I be battling this year for the lives of baby blue jays. I am thinking two. There are two "outdoor cats" in the neighborhood. They probably can be credited for keeping the rodent population down, but it's getting to be the time of year when the cats and I shall not be happy with each other.

Sleep well, meggers.

[vir doctus]

You pay for your insurance, you might as well get use out of it.


You pay for my insurance. :shifty:

Thank you.

[RayMan]

I'm not. :evil:

Raquel, Sophia and Julie Newmar were my poster girls.

[Meriweather]

We may be getting some much needed rain. I think I already posted Singing in the Rain. When I was really little, I used to listen to the Everly Brothers; they sang about crying in the rain. Before them, I liked the Percy Faith Orchestra. Anyone remember either of those two?

I had to laugh as I watched the video of the Everly Brothers. I remember when I thought they looked really old! Now they look so young.

<Crying in the Rain> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0Z6xOeR_Bo)

[Mimiheart]

The main road leading back to my house was flooded... so I took the detour. Then I tried to take every road back to the road to get to the road to my house--all flooded. I had to go north to go south after going west to go east. :doh:

[vir doctus]

Anyone remember either of those two?


Before my time. :cool:

[terri910]

We may be getting some much needed rain. I think I already posted Singing in the Rain. When I was really little, I used to listen to the Everly Brothers; they sang about crying in the rain. Before them, I liked the Percy Faith Orchestra. Anyone remember either of those two?

I had to laugh as I watched the video of the Everly Brothers. I remember when I thought they looked really old! Now they look so young.

<Crying in the Rain> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0Z6xOeR_Bo)
Of course I remember them......I loved the Everly Brothers.

My two brothers had a band (I guess they call them "garage bands" now, but we didn't have a garage...*LOL*) and they used to sing a few Everly Brothers' songs. Loved the harmony.

Percy Faith Orchestra....just okay for me.

It was the Everly Brothers that made me first realize I was no longer part of the "younger generation" (and this was back in the 70's! :eek:). I was visiting a friend, who had a young teenage daughter. She was excitedly telling us about this great "new" group she'd just heard on the radio -- the Everly Brothers.

When you're old enough to know things aren't "new" you know you've past the point of no return.

[Hadassah]

Today is a very sad "anniversary" for my family. 22 years ago today, my dad and his partner on duty were shot.

[RayMan]

Today is a very sad "anniversary" for my family. 22 years ago today, my dad and his partner on duty were shot.


:pray: :hug:

[noelle12]

Today is a very sad "anniversary" for my family. 22 years ago today, my dad and his partner on duty were shot.

I'm so sorry for the suffering of your family and that of your father's partner, and let me also express gratitude for his service.:hug:

[terri910]

helloooooo? anyone here? http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a355/terri910/clamup.gif

[Meriweather]

helloooooo? anyone here? http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a355/terri910/clamup.gif

Just got home. What's up?

[terri910]

Just got home. What's up?
Nothing.

I just wondered if i was all alone in here...*L*

[vir doctus]

Just got home. What's up?

I see dead people.

[terri910]

I see dead people.
I liked The Sixth Sense. Did you?

M. Knight Shyamalan never really managed to grab me since that one. Oh, wait, I liked Signs. That's it.

[vir doctus]

I liked The Sixth Sense. Did you?

M. Knight Shyamalan never really managed to grab me since that one. Oh, wait, I liked Signs. That's it.

Wasn't thinking of that - I've just been doing genealogy all day and am on my seventh cemetery list... :))

I liked Sixth Sense and The Village, Handsome did this :rolleyes: to the latter - he doesn't understand my fixation with utopic stories.

[vir doctus]

While researching, I discovered that 'Sally' is a nickname for 'Morag'.

Reminds me of a Kenny Rogers song. :silenced: (Is that pop culture or obscure?)

[terri910]

Wasn't thinking of that - I've just been doing genealogy all day and am on my seventh cemetery list... :))
:))
Have you discovered anyone fascinating in your genealogy (assuming you are doing it on your own ancestry)?

I liked Sixth Sense and The Village, Handsome did this :rolleyes: to the latter - he doesn't understand my fixation with utopic stories.
Neither hubby nor I were great fans of The Village (it lacked the surprise factor for us -- we'd figured out the "catch" before it was revealed). And The Happening was pretty bad. Lady in the Water was something I just couldn't stay interested in.

[terri910]

While researching, I discovered that 'Sally' is a nickname for 'Morag'.

Reminds me of a Kenny Rogers song. :silenced: (Is that pop culture or obscure?)
Apparently I don't know Kenny Rogers songs that well. I've heard of Ruby....but Sally? (or did you mean Morag? Now there's a name that just cries out to be made into a love song)

[vir doctus]

:))
Have you discovered anyone fascinating in your genealogy (assuming you are doing it on your own ancestry)?


I am working on Mom's hillbilly roots. Fascinating in its cradle-robbing inbreeding. :eek: (Which is why I am Norwegian and not all those silly deviations my mother brings to the gene pool.) :shifty:

[RayMan]

I am working on Mom's hillbilly roots. Fascinating in its cradle-robbing inbreeding. :eek: (Which is why I am Norwegian and not all those silly deviations my mother brings to the gene pool.) :shifty:


Let us know when you find CID swimming in the pool. He's gotta be in there somewhere.

[vir doctus]

Apparently I don't know Kenny Rogers songs that well. I've heard of Ruby....but Sally? (or did you mean Morag? Now there's a name that just cries out to be made into a love song)


:boohoo: "Morgana Jones was a middle-aged woman, she was ugly as she could be..."

[Meriweather]

Of course I remember them......I loved the Everly Brothers.

My two brothers had a band (I guess they call them "garage bands" now, but we didn't have a garage...*LOL*) and they used to sing a few Everly Brothers' songs. Loved the harmony.

Percy Faith Orchestra....just okay for me.

It was the Everly Brothers that made me first realize I was no longer part of the "younger generation" (and this was back in the 70's! :eek:). I was visiting a friend, who had a young teenage daughter. She was excitedly telling us about this great "new" group she'd just heard on the radio -- the Everly Brothers.

When you're old enough to know things aren't "new" you know you've past the point of no return.

I never have been able to find my favorite Percy Faith song. Every so often I go listen to whatever Percy Faith I can find on youtube, but as I cannot remember the name, and he played a lot of music. Besides, since I was only two-three at the time, and can only recall a few bars of the music, there is that challenge, too. A toddler's memory can't be all that reliable--but those bars still sound clear, at least in my head.

I began liking the Everly Brothers when I was four or five. Wake up Little Suzy. Mom and Dad always sang that song to me when I woke up from a nap grumpy.

[Meriweather]

I am working on Mom's hillbilly roots. Fascinating in its cradle-robbing inbreeding. :eek: (Which is why I am Norwegian and not all those silly deviations my mother brings to the gene pool.) :shifty:

I am convinced there is a line of hillbillies on my husband's side. A couple of generations of them disappeared into that neck of the woods and then re-emerged later...I'm still trying to figure out what the women did with their husbands. Besides, my husband wants me to find some moonshine in his family line.

[RayMan]

I am convinced there is a line of hillbillies on my husband's side. A couple of generations of them disappeared into that neck of the woods and then re-emerged later...I'm still trying to figure out what the women did with their husbands. Besides, my husband wants me to find some moonshine in his family line.

All roads lead to CID.

[vir doctus]

I am convinced there is a line of hillbillies on my husband's side. A couple of generations of them disappeared into that neck of the woods and then re-emerged later...I'm still trying to figure out what the women did with their husbands. Besides, my husband wants me to find some moonshine in his family line.

I know what the women did:

Aunt married at 14
Grandmother married at 14 (to a 26 year old)
Great grandmother married at 15 (to a 21 year old)
Great great grandmother married at 15 (to a 23 year old)

[Meriweather]

All roads lead to CID.

I don't think the family got quite as far South as CID's family. I've always wanted to find a family member that came over to the Georgia prison colony.

Most of the family were a Northern bunch, with a few mid-west types thrown in along the way. Tennessee, Missoui--I believe that's about as far south as we got before heading north again.

[terri910]

I know what the women did:

Aunt married at 14
Grandmother married at 14 (to a 26 year old)
Great grandmother married at 15 (to a 21 year old)
Great great grandmother married at 15 (to a 23 year old)
Do you think that kids "grew up" that much earlier back then?

I'm trying to even IMAGINE being married when I was 14 or 15.

I can't do it. I can't even imagine it.

[Meriweather]

I know what the women did:

Aunt married at 14
Grandmother married at 14 (to a 26 year old)
Great grandmother married at 15 (to a 21 year old)
Great great grandmother married at 15 (to a 23 year old)

That is really young. Eighteen is a young age to be married in most of my family's genealogy.

[Meriweather]

Do you think that kids "grew up" that much earlier back then?

I'm trying to even IMAGINE being married when I was 14 or 15.

I can't do it. I can't even imagine it.

I don't know about hillbilly kids, but I haven't found a lot of young marriages from family lines stemming from the northern United States and Canadian lines.

[Hadassah]

Geesh, I have an unsolved murder in my family tree. :eek: I wish there were just teen marriages. (though we do have a unwed pregnancy)

[RayMan]

I don't think the family got quite as far South as CID's family. I've always wanted to find a family member that came over to the Georgia prison colony.

Most of the family were a Northern bunch, with a few mid-west types thrown in along the way. Tennessee, Missoui--I believe that's about as far south as we got before heading north again.

CID has kin as far West as Oklahoma. No state was safe.

[Meriweather]

CID has kin as far West as Oklahoma. No state was safe.

We may have been. After Missouri, we headed for the Dakotas. Were the Dakotas safe from CID's family?

[Hadassah]

CID has kin as far West as Oklahoma. No state was safe.

How about New York? :shifty:

[Meriweather]

Geesh, I have an unsolved murder in my family tree. :eek: I wish there were just teen marriages. (though we do have a unwed pregnancy)

Chills. Murder?

[meggers49]

2

2 squared + 5 = 9, which is 3 squared.

2 squared - 5 = -1 and -1 squared is the imaginary unit

Or, something like that.

-1 squared is 1

[meggers49]

01010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101 0101010101

sadist!!!!!!!!

[Hadassah]

Chills. Murder?

Yup. We don't know who did it or why.

[Meriweather]

-1 squared is 1

Yes.

-1 squared is 1

-(1 squared) is -1

As Fire Watch noted last night, this gets into imaginary numbers, and he was after a solution of rational numbers--which led to the quadratic equations.

[terri910]

Math still sucks.

[Hadassah]

Chills. Murder?

Joe DiMaggio found her. Yes, Joe DiMaggio, the baseball player.

[terri910]

Joe DiMaggio found her. Yes, Joe DiMaggio, the baseball player.
You need to write a screenplay on it.

[Meriweather]

Math still sucks.

No, it is just misunderstood.

If you have the time to really sit down with it, concentrate and see where it is taking you, it can be fun. However, who truly wants to sit down with a good math problem? I know I don't. However, when I'm forced to, it's really not that bad.

[terri910]

No, it is just misunderstood.

Who can understand invisible numbers?




http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a355/terri910/naaah.gif
Or imaginary. Same difference.

[Hadassah]

You need to write a screenplay on it.

Except I can't write. :))

[terri910]

Except I can't write. :))
And what makes you think you should be any different than 95% of all the other screenwriters? :mrgreen:

[Hadassah]

And what makes you think you should be any different than 95% of all the other screenwriters? :mrgreen:

True that! :))


what I'd like to do is get some Cold Case detectives on it.

[RayMan]

Joe DiMaggio found her. Yes, Joe DiMaggio, the baseball player.

Joe DiMaggio was born and raised just across the Carquinez Strait from where I am sitting now. In the quaint little town of Martinez.

Until recently his childhood home was also the Joe DiMaggio Museum.

[RayMan]

And what makes you think you should be any different than 95% of all the other screenwriters? :mrgreen:

Being generous tonight, eh terri?

[RayMan]

True that! :))


what I'd like to do is get some Cold Case detectives on it.


A Cold Case would go down nicely. I am stuck home alone with no car and no beer. :cry:

[terri910]

True that! :))


what I'd like to do is get some Cold Case detectives on it.
How long ago did this happen, Hadassah?

[Meriweather]

A Cold Case would go down nicely. I am stuck home alone with no car and no beer. :cry:

Don't cry! Here you are, RayMan!

http://i.ehow.com/images/GlobalPhoto/Articles/2102410/beer1-main_Full.jpg

We love you. :hug:

[terri910]

A Cold Case would go down nicely. I am stuck home alone with no car and no beer. :cry:
ba-da-bump!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYJWWKkF2ZE&feature=related
(just listen to the last second and a half...*LOL*)

[vir doctus]

A Cold Case would go down nicely. I am stuck home alone with no car and no beer. :cry:

Beer sucks.

[vir doctus]

No, it is just misunderstood.

If you have the time to really sit down with it, concentrate and see where it is taking you, it can be fun. However, who truly wants to sit down with a good math problem? I know I don't. However, when I'm forced to, it's really not that bad.

Handsome had a good laugh yesterday... :whistle:

[Meriweather]

Handsome had a good laugh yesterday... :whistle:

I'll bet he did.

[Meriweather]

Two daffodils in bloom today...Since it is supposed to rain tonight, I picked them and have them in a vase on my desk. They're cheerful.

http://www.comnur.com/perennials/Dutch%20master_daffodil.JPG

[vir doctus]

Do you think that kids "grew up" that much earlier back then?

I'm trying to even IMAGINE being married when I was 14 or 15.

I can't do it. I can't even imagine it.

I think it just caused a lot of problems: Aunt had two marriages, grandma had five marriages, great grandma was only married the once but lost all contacts with her family for it, great great grandma had three marriages (but her first husband died in the Civil War leaving her widowed at 19 with three children).

[vir doctus]

Geesh, I have an unsolved murder in my family tree. :eek: I wish there were just teen marriages. (though we do have a unwed pregnancy)

I think I've mentioned how my husband's great uncle caused the Titanic to sink... I may have also mentioned the "six degrees of separation" that lost us a boat load of money.

[terri910]

I think I've mentioned how my husband's great uncle caused the Titanic to sink... I may have also mentioned the "six degrees of separation" that lost us a boat load of money.
Oooooh! I don't remember either story....tell us again!

[vir doctus]

Two daffodils in bloom today...Since it is supposed to rain tonight, I picked them and have them in a vase on my desk. They're cheerful.

http://www.comnur.com/perennials/Dutch%20master_daffodil.JPG

What's rain got to do with it? :eh:

[terri910]

What's rain got to do with it? :eh:
She wants something cheerful to look at indoors while it's raining?

[RayMan]

What's rain got to do with it? :eh:

Wow. Misquoting Tina. I'm impressed. :cool:

[RayMan]

I think I've mentioned how my husband's great uncle caused the Titanic to sink... I may have also mentioned the "six degrees of separation" that lost us a boat load of money.

Yes you have....:rolleyes::rolleyes:


What's in it for me?

[terri910]

Yes you have....:rolleyes::rolleyes:

It's times like these that I appreciate my bad memory.

It's all new to me! :mrgreen:

[RayMan]

Beer sucks.


Your spelling and sentence structure are atrocious.

What you meant to say is,

Suck Beers...:cool:

And I would if the fridge had anything besides health producing food in it.

[vir doctus]

Oooooh! I don't remember either story....tell us again!

First one - Great Grandpa and Great Uncle owned the second largest lace company in the world. In debt to the Swiss Bank (in 2005 dollars) for half a billion dollars, Great Uncle fled Switzerland by motorboat across Lake Constance in order to catch the ship Carpathia to America. The Swiss Bank sent its president, Alphons Simonius-Blumer, and lawyer, Dr. Max Staehelin, in pursuit on the only ship capable of “overtaking” the Carpathia, the Titanic. When the Titanic sank, the Carpathia was sent to rescue its passengers.

Handsome thinks the president of the Swiss Bank pushing the Captain of the Titanic to catch the Carpathia contributed to its demise.

[meggers49]

Spent at least a full week in Computer Tech school a decade ago learning both binary and hexadecimal.

After ten years in I.T. I still have yet to have to use any of that knowledge so I flushed it from my brain to leave room for other knowledge I might actually need in this life.

as I say.........you only have so much ram. which is why my daughter doesn't bother knowing names of states or capitals.. :rolleyes:

[CID_0687]

Beer sucks.
Lies!!

Vir you're making me sad.

[meggers49]

No habla espanol, hermana?

Si, hablo espanol, pero no hablo binary. no soy loca.

[Hadassah]

How long ago did this happen, Hadassah?

about 52 years ago.

[Hadassah]

I think I've mentioned how my husband's great uncle caused the Titanic to sink... I may have also mentioned the "six degrees of separation" that lost us a boat load of money.

I don't remember either story.

[Fire Watch]

si, hablo espanol, pero no hablo binary. No soy loca.
01101110 01101111 00100000 01101000 01100001 01100010 01101100 01101111 00100000 01100010 01101001 01101110 01100001 01110010 01111001 00111111

[vir doctus]

Oooooh! I don't remember either story....tell us again!

Second one - BIL (technically half BIL) died with a small fortune, but he lived in a state that still followed "six degrees" for inheritance purposes (he died intestate). To the best of our knowledge the only kin he had was his two half brothers - his mother was dead, my FIL was dead, his aunt was dead (and had never had husband or children), his mother's parents were dead and had only had the two children. Days before the estate was to be distributed we were informed it was being contested. I looked at the genealogical documents they presented us and there was one glaring issue - the genealogical data said deceased BIL's grandmother was black. :eek:

Now, let me take a moment to explain that Handsome's grandfather was a HUGE bigot and had there been a hint of BIL's mother coming from such a heritage my FIL would have NEVER been allowed near her. As it turns out, BIL's grandmother and grandfather were both fair skinned blacks who, after attending Howard University, "went white". All of their documents from marriage on say they are white - they left their family and old life behind.

Matter of fact, the first person to know was a parasite genealogist who scans the papers of "six degree" states for intestate estates, he does the genealogy and then approaches the "kin" with a proposal: they agree to the lawsuit at no cost to themselves and he gets 40% of the take home. The people who got half of deceased BIL's estate were his great aunt's great grand children... People who never knew of him.

[Sorry if that was confusing.]

[Hadassah]

Second one - BIL (technically half BIL) died with a small fortune, but he lived in a state that still followed "six degrees" for inheritance purposes (he died intestate). To the best of our knowledge the only kin he had was his two half brothers - his mother was dead, my FIL was dead, his aunt was dead (and had never had husband or children), his mother's parents were dead and had only had the two children. Days before the estate was to be distributed we were informed it was being contested. I looked at the genealogical documents they presented us and there was one glaring issue - the genealogical data said deceased BIL's grandmother was black. :eek:

Now, let me take a moment to explain that Handsome's grandfather was a HUGE bigot and had there been a hint of BIL's mother coming from such a heritage my FIL would have NEVER been allowed near her. As it turns out, BIL's grandmother and grandfather were both fair skinned blacks who, after attending Howard University, "went white". All of their documents from marriage on say they are white - they left their family and old life behind.

Matter of fact, the first person to know was a parasite genealogist who scans the papers of "six degree" states for intestate estates, he does the genealogy and then approaches the "kin" with a proposal: they agree to the lawsuit at no cost to themselves and he gets 40% of the take home. The people who got half of deceased BIL's estate were his great aunt's great grand children... People who never knew of him.

[Sorry if that was confusing.]


I do remember this one. That was about a year or two ago, wasn't it?

[vir doctus]

I do remember this one. That was about a year or two ago, wasn't it?

Three.

I've always wondered what type of people say 'yes' to this kind of guy...

[vir doctus]

Lies!!

Vir you're making me sad.

Beer makes you sad. Vir takes care of Honourable CID. http://www.zeldaforums.net/forum/images/smilies2/viking.gif

[Meriweather]

Codes. Cool.

01010100 01101000 01100101 00100000 01101111 01110010 01101001 01100111 01101001 01101110 01100001 01101100 00100000 01110011 01110100 01100001 01110100 01100101 01100100 00100000 01110000 01110101 01110010 01110000 01101111 01110011 01100101 00100000 01101111 01100110 00100000 01110100 01101000 01101001 01110011 00100000 01110100 01101000 01110010 01100101 01100001 01100100 00100000 01101001 01110011 00100000 01101111 01110101 01110100 01101100 01101001 01101110 01100101 01100100 00100000 01101001 01101110 00100000 01110100 01101000 01100101 00100000 01001111 01010000 00101110 00100000 00100000 01001001 00100000 01101000 01100001 01110110 01100101 00100000 01110100 01101000 01100101 00100000 01110000 01101111 01110111 01100101 01110010 00100000 01110100 01101111 00100000 01100101 01100100 01101001 01110100 00101110 00100000 00100000 0100011 10111001 00110100 10110111 00010111 00000110 100001010

[terri910]

about 52 years ago.
Mid-century.


I see Adrian Brody playing the part of Joe DiMaggio.

[Fire Watch]

codes. Cool.

01010100 01101000 01100101 00100000 01101111 01110010 01101001 01100111 01101001 01101110 01100001 01101100 00100000 01110011 01110100 01100001 01110100 01100101 01100100 00100000 01110000 01110101 01110010 01110000 01101111 01110011 01100101 00100000 01101111 01100110 00100000 01110100 01101000 01101001 01110011 00100000 01110100 01101000 01110010 01100101 01100001 01100100 00100000 01101001 01110011 00100000 01101111 01110101 01110100 01101100 01101001 01101110 01100101 01100100 00100000 01101001 01101110 00100000 01110100 01101000 01100101 00100000 01001111 01010000 00101110 00100000 00100000 01001001 00100000 01101000 01100001 01110110 01100101 00100000 01110100 01101000 01100101 00100000 01110000 01101111 01110111 01100101 01110010 00100000 01110100 01101111 00100000 01100101 01100100 01101001 01110100 00101110 00100000 00100000 0100011 10111001 00110100 10110111 00010111 00000110 100001010

01000001 01101110 01100100 00100000 01001001 00100000 01101000 01100001 01110110 01100101 00100000 01110100 01101000 01100101 00100000 01110000 01101111 01110111 01100101 01110010 00100000 01110100 01101111 00100000 01101100 01101111 01100011 01101011 00101110 00100000 00111010 00101001

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a373/reconrick/neo.jpg

[vir doctus]

about 52 years ago.

I'm intrigued...

[Meriweather]

01000001 01101110 01100100 00100000 01001001 00100000 01101000 01100001 01110110 01100101 00100000 01110100 01101000 01100101 00100000 01110000 01101111 01110111 01100101 01110010 00100000 01110100 01101111 00100000 01101100 01101111 01100011 01101011 00101110 00100000 00111010 00101001



01000001 01101110 01101111 01110100 01101000 01100101 01110010 00100000 01110011 01110100 01100001 01101110 01100100 01101111 01100110 01100110 00100000 01100001 01110100 00100000 01110100 01101000 01100101 00100000 01001111 00101110 01001011 00101110 00100000 01000011 01101111 01110010 01110010 01100001 01101100 00101110

[Fire Watch]

01000001 01101110 01101111 01110100 01101000 01100101 01110010 00100000 01110011 01110100 01100001 01101110 01100100 01101111 01100110 01100110 00100000 01100001 01110100 00100000 01110100 01101000 01100101 00100000 01001111 00101110 01001011 00101110 00100000 01000011 01101111 01110010 01110010 01100001 01101100 00101110
01001001 00100111 01101101 00100000 01111001 01101111 01110101 01110010 00100000 01001000 01110101 01100011 01101011 01101100 01100101 01100010 01100101 01110010 01110010 01111001

http://www.patriotresource.com/tombstone/graphics/cast/kilmer.jpg

[buflineks]

Beer makes you sad. Vir takes care of Honourable CID. http://www.zeldaforums.net/forum/images/smilies2/viking.gif

Beer makes me a jolly good fellow.

(ask Tom T. Hall)

[vir doctus]

Beer makes me a jolly good fellow.


:shhh: Dude, didn't you get the memo about the intervention...

[buflineks]

:shhh: Dude, didn't you get the memo about the intervention...


:shhh: I haven't had a beer since June. One thing that my diabetes won't allow me to have.

[vir doctus]

:shhh: I haven't had a beer since June. One thing that my diabetes won't allow me to have.

:shhh: Not for you, for Honourable CID. Though, I must say, your spelling has improved since you gave up the stuff...

[Meriweather]

01001001 00100111 01101101 00100000 01111001 01101111 01110101 01110010 00100000 01001000 01110101 01100011 01101011 01101100 01100101 01100010 01100101 01110010 01110010 01111001



01000100 01101111 01101110 00100111 01110100 00100000 01001001 00100000 01101011 01101110 01101111 01110111 00100000 01101001 01110100

[RayMan]

as I say.........you only have so much ram. which is why my daughter doesn't bother knowing names of states or capitals.. :rolleyes:

Reminds me of Holmes and Watson meeting for the first time in A Study in Scarlet.

[RayMan]

Si, hablo espanol, pero no hablo binary. no soy loca.

Yeh. My vegan kids are crazy about soy too.

[RayMan]

:shhh: I haven't had a beer since June. One thing that my diabetes won't allow me to have.

One more reason why diabetes sucks.

[Meriweather]

<Wake up Little Suzy> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbLuWciXFcM)


GOOD MORNING, ALL!




It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood.


http://www.reallynatural.com/archives/Coffee%20Lover.jpg

[Koushi Shinigami]

Harumpf!!!!!


*hits snooze bar*

[Meriweather]

Harumpf!!!!!


*hits snooze bar*


<Stay Awake> (http://tr.truveo.com/Stay-Awake-Mary-Poppins-Julie-Andrews/id/246373036)


(Tiptoes away)

[Koushi Shinigami]

01000100 01101111 01101110 00100111 01110100 00100000 01001001 00100000 01101011 01101110 01101111 01110111 00100000 01101001 01110100

:eek:




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0BrdMi-oyc&feature=related

The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly final gunfight. 5:37

[Koushi Shinigami]

<Stay Awake> (http://tr.truveo.com/Stay-Awake-Mary-Poppins-Julie-Andrews/id/246373036)


(Tiptoes away)



*throws pillow*

[Mimiheart]

I'm selling seventh graders... who wants them?

Also, I ditched my room last night. Someone before I got there seems to have dumped an entire bottle of perfume in it. blech.

[buflineks]

*throws pillow*


Maaaa...................I don't want to go to school.........I've got a headache.

[meggers49]

You pay for my insurance. :shifty:

Thank you.

then you are more than welcome to whatever you need. my treat!

[meggers49]

Do you think that kids "grew up" that much earlier back then?

I'm trying to even IMAGINE being married when I was 14 or 15.

I can't do it. I can't even imagine it.

yes, i think so. I can't imagine being married at 14, but at least I was mentally equipped to do so. I could manage a house and take care of kids at that age.

That's why I think that study about the brain of teens being underdeveloped and that's why they're immature is bunk. I think it's a use it or lose it thing, and that it's not developed because we don't make them use that part.

[meggers49]

Yes.

-1 squared is 1

-(1 squared) is -1

As Fire Watch noted last night, this gets into imaginary numbers, and he was after a solution of rational numbers--which led to the quadratic equations.

omg........not quadratic equations........ I have such a headache from work that the idea of them just caused a cramp in my brain.

[buflineks]

<Wake up Little Suzy> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbLuWciXFcM)


GOOD MORNING, ALL!




It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood.


http://www.reallynatural.com/archives/Coffee%20Lover.jpg

My goodness......................someone had their post toasties this morning.:))

[Meriweather]

:eek:




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0BrdMi-oyc&feature=related

The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly final gunfight. 5:37


Yes, I know. But for some reason I think I can always change the ending. Maybe that's because I always show up for a gunfight without a gun. This usually discombobulates people to the extent they don't know what to do about me. Fire Watch isn't so easily discombobulated, and he won't put away his gun.

[vir doctus]

then you are more than welcome to whatever you need. my treat!

http://www.zeldaforums.net/forum/images/smilies2/viking.gif

[Meriweather]

I'm selling seventh graders... who wants them?

Also, I ditched my room last night. Someone before I got there seems to have dumped an entire bottle of perfume in it. blech.

Send your seventh graders along. I have forty-two of the critters and a few more will blend right in.

Has the smell of perfume faded yet?

[Meriweather]

My goodness......................someone had their post toasties this morning.:))

Feeling my oats, as Grandpa used to say. How is your headache--is it fading yet?

[vir doctus]

Feeling my oats, as Grandpa used to say. How is your headache--is it fading yet?

I've heard of sowing oats :shifty:, I hope that is not related to 'feeling oats'. Please advise on figure of speech.

[Mimiheart]

Send your seventh graders along. I have forty-two of the critters and a few more will blend right in.

Has the smell of perfume faded yet?I don't know. I'll find out this afternoon. I was talking about my classroom, not my bedroom. My class ended up in the preschool, which smelled like diapers and bleach, but it was better than the perfume!

[meggers49]

i am having a cup of coffee and some motrin then i'm going to bed.
i have SUCH a headache from last night. I was at triage and every nut and jackass in america was in.

one charming female called 911 on us (she was in the back of our triage area and she was mad at us). there are always cops in the place, but there were three and they were in the front triage area.....finally, I realized (i had heard she called 911) that they were there because the call was for trouble in the ED and they were there cause they thought we were in trouble. One of the guys was from the adjoining suburb.

It brought me to tears. Anyway. The whole night was nuts and nasty people. After a while it just got comical. By morning, though, I just couldn't think any more and my brain is still cramping.

So coffee, motrin and a couple hours sleep are coming up.

Have a good day!

[meggers49]

http://www.zeldaforums.net/forum/images/smilies2/viking.gif

back atcha! ;)

[Meriweather]

I've heard of sowing oats :shifty:, I hope that is not related to 'feeling oats'. Please advise on figure of speech.

Figure of speech meaning feeling in a good mood. It is related to horses, where they are fed mostly hay and grass. Some observe that sometimes horses, after eating oats, are more strong-willed and difficult to deal with.

Not that I am ever difficult to deal with. :shifty:

[buflineks]

. How is your headache--is it fading yet?

Nope.

That philosophy paper is still due a week from thursday.:wall:

[vir doctus]

i am having a cup of coffee and some motrin then i'm going to bed.
i have SUCH a headache from last night. I was at triage and every nut and jackass in america was in.

one charming female called 911 on us (she was in the back of our triage area and she was mad at us). there are always cops in the place, but there were three and they were in the front triage area.....finally, I realized (i had heard she called 911) that they were there because the call was for trouble in the ED and they were there cause they thought we were in trouble. One of the guys was from the adjoining suburb.

It brought me to tears. Anyway. The whole night was nuts and nasty people. After a while it just got comical. By morning, though, I just couldn't think any more and my brain is still cramping.

So coffee, motrin and a couple hours sleep are coming up.

Have a good day!

Stupid people suck.

Sleep well.

[Koushi Shinigami]

Figure of speech meaning feeling in a good mood. It is related to horses, where they are fed mostly hay and grass. Some observe that sometimes horses, after eating oats, are more strong-willed and difficult to deal with.

Not that I am ever difficult to deal with. :shifty:


Equate the horse analogy to giving a 5 year old a pack of Red Bull...

[Dagar]

Good morning all.

[terri910]

Good morning, Dagar!

[vir doctus]

A Black Man Talks of Reaping
Arna Bontemps

I have sown beside all waters in my day.
I planted deep, within my heart the fear
that wind or fowl would take the grain away.
I planted safe against this stark, lean year.

I scattered seed enough to plant the land
in rows from Canada to Mexico
but for my reaping only what the hand
can hold at once is all that I can show.

Yet what I sowed and what the orchard yields
my brother's sons are gathering stalk and root;
small wonder then my children glean in fields
they have not sown, and feed on bitter fruit.

[Hadassah]

Mid-century.


I see Adrian Brody playing the part of Joe DiMaggio.

What a hottie! :drool:


Did you know that he has a home about a 30 minute drive from me? :mrgreen:

[terri910]

What a hottie! :drool:


Did you know that he has a home about a 30 minute drive from me? :mrgreen:
Really? (to both statements)

[Hadassah]

Really? (to both statements)

Yep, really.

[Meriweather]

I have two poems to share. I warn you from the offset that these are not the type of poems vir would post. In fact, the second poem in the post after this one will make use of the site's word filter.

Some may wish to cover their eyes and not read the second poem at all. However, it is the funniest.

Ready? Then here we go!

A WOMAN'S POEM…

Before I lay me down to sleep,
I pray for a man, who's not a creep,
One who's handsome, smart and strong.
One who loves to listen long.

One who thinks before he speaks,
One who'll call, not wait for weeks.
I pray he's gainfully employed,
When I spend his cash, won't be annoyed.

Pulls out my chair and opens my door.
Massages my back and begs to do more.
Oh! Send me a man who'll make love to my mind,
Knows what to answer to 'how big is my behind?'

I pray that this man will love me to no end,
And always be my very best friend.


(A man’s poem is coming up next. Warning! Not for the easily offended. CID, Fire Watch--cover your eyes and hop back over the ReconoLodge where things are more genteel.)

[Meriweather]

A MAN'S POEM

I pray for a deaf-mute gymnast nymphomaniac with
Huge boobs who owns a bar on a golf course,
And loves to send me fishing and drinking. This
Doesn't rhyme and I don't give a ****.

The End

[Koushi Shinigami]

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:


Bravo!!!! Bravo!!!!!

[Hadassah]

ROFLMAO!!!! http://bestsmileys.com/lol/18.gifhttp://bestsmileys.com/lol/12.gif

[vir doctus]

I have two poems to share. I warn you from the offset that these are not the type of poems vir would post.

Would you prefer I quote Lady Macbeth or Donald Trump to address your poetry posting trial?

[terri910]

One who loves to listen long.
This made me think of the email my in-laws sent to me this morning:
A man was sitting on the edge of the bed, observing his wife turning back and forth, looking at herself in the mirror. Since her birthday was not far off, he asked what she'd like to have for her Birthday.
I'd like to be six again, she replied, still looking in the mirror.

On the morning of her Birthday, he arose early, made her a nice big bowl of Lucky Charms, and then took her to Six Flags theme park.

What a day!

He put her on every ride in the park; the Death Slide, the Wall of Fear, the Screaming
Monster Roller Coaster...everything there was.

Five hours later they staggered out of the theme park. Her head was reeling and her stomach felt upside down.

He then took her to a McDonald 's where he ordered her a Happy Meal with extra fries and a chocolate shake.

Then it was off to a movie, popcorn, a soda pop, and her favorite candy, M&M's.

What a fabulous adventure!

Finally she wobbled home with her husband and collapsed into bed exhausted.

He leaned over his wife with a big smile and lovingly asked,

Well Dear, what was it like being six again ??

Her eyes slowly opened and her expression suddenly changed.

I meant my Dress Size, you big dummy!!

The moral of the story:

Even when a man is listening, sometimes he gets it wrong.

[terri910]

CID, Fire Watch--cover your eyes and hop back over the ReconoLodge where things are more gentile.)
What are things where they are, now? More jewish?

[Meriweather]

Would you prefer I quote Lady Macbeth or Donald Trump to address your poetry posting trial?

Quote both, of course.

[Meriweather]

What are things where they are, now? More jewish?

:))

I can't believe that mispelling. I'll go back and correct. I knew I was tired when I wanted to crawl into bed at six o'clock--but I didn't realize my speller had already dozed off!

[Hadassah]

This made me think of the email my in-laws sent to me this morning:



A man was sitting on the edge of the bed, observing his wife turning back and forth, looking at herself in the mirror. Since her birthday was not far off, he asked what she'd like to have for her Birthday.
I'd like to be six again, she replied, still looking in the mirror.

On the morning of her Birthday, he arose early, made her a nice big bowl of Lucky Charms, and then took her to Six Flags theme park.

What a day!

He put her on every ride in the park; the Death Slide, the Wall of Fear, the Screaming
Monster Roller Coaster...everything there was.

Five hours later they staggered out of the theme park. Her head was reeling and her stomach felt upside down.

He then took her to a McDonald 's where he ordered her a Happy Meal with extra fries and a chocolate shake.

Then it was off to a movie, popcorn, a soda pop, and her favorite candy, M&M's.

What a fabulous adventure!

Finally she wobbled home with her husband and collapsed into bed exhausted.

He leaned over his wife with a big smile and lovingly asked,

Well Dear, what was it like being six again ??

Her eyes slowly opened and her expression suddenly changed.

I meant my Dress Size, you big dummy!!

The moral of the story:

Even when a man is listening, sometimes he gets it wrong.



It's the thought that counts, right? :mrgreen:


Besides, in his defense, she said "six" not "size six" or "a six", so it's understandable why he got it wrong. :razz:

[Meriweather]

It sounded like a wonderful day to me. Had I been the wife, I would have just smiled. (And after he had left the room I would have been roaring with laughter.)

[terri910]

It's the thought that counts, right? :mrgreen:


Besides, in his defense, she said "six" not "size six" or "a six", so it's understandable why he got it wrong. :razz:
See, you and I had the same reaction!

I was on the husband's side on this!

[vir doctus]

Quote both, of course.

"Out damn spot!"

"You're fired."

:cool:

[Meriweather]

"Out damn spot!"

"You're fired."

:cool:

Fire Watch doesn't like my political conversations, and you don't like my poetry. I wonder what would happen if I posted some politcal poetry?

[Hadassah]

See, you and I had the same reaction!

I was on the husband's side on this!

Exactly! Like Meri said, it sounded like a wonderful day.

[terri910]

What do you think this smiley represents?

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a355/terri910/melted.gif

[Meriweather]

What do you think this smiley represents?

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a355/terri910/melted.gif

Her face fell?

[noelle12]

What do you think this smiley represents?

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a355/terri910/melted.gif

where did you find that?

[vir doctus]

What do you think this smiley represents?

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a355/terri910/melted.gif

:idea: Hey - I just thought of you, in case you ever redecorate your loo consider a London Tube Map shower curtain.

[FoxGranadaChuck]

:idea: Hey - I just thought of you, in case you ever redecorate your loo consider a London Tube Map shower curtain.


Would this happen to include some authentic British fish and chips wrapped in British newspaper?


:think: :think: :think:

[Hadassah]

What do you think this smiley represents?

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a355/terri910/melted.gif

It's too hot. I melted!

[terri910]

:idea: Hey - I just thought of you, in case you ever redecorate your loo consider a London Tube Map shower curtain.
I have been using my London Tube Map umbrella this week. :mrgreen:

[meggers49]

:))

I can't believe that mispelling. I'll go back and correct. I knew I was tired when I wanted to crawl into bed at six o'clock--but I didn't realize my speller had already dozed off!

i'm tired enough that my brain just made that into genteel. lol...i must have my own 'filter'
lol

[vir doctus]

Would this happen to include some authentic British fish and chips wrapped in British newspaper?


:think: :think: :think:

In the loo? No. :shifty:

[terri910]

where did you find that?
Kolobok smilies....

[FoxGranadaChuck]

In the loo? No. :shifty:


Aw shucks. :mad: :mad: :mad:

[RayMan]

"I’m out of it for a little while and everyone gets delusions of grandeur!”
Han Solo - Star Wars VI: Return of the Jedi



Howdy ya'll.

(He's baacckkk.)

;)

[Meriweather]

"I’m out of it for a little while and everyone gets delusions of grandeur!”
Han Solo - Star Wars VI: Return of the Jedi



Howdy ya'll.

(He's baacckkk.)

;)

It's good to see you back, RayMan. I missed you.

[RayMan]

It's good to see you back, RayMan. I missed you.


Ditto. :hug:

[Meriweather]

Ditto. :hug:

:hug:

I got up for a drink (yawn), but I'm ready to head back to bed already. Goodnight, and I'll see you in the morning--if you can stay out of trouble, you rascal, you.

[RayMan]

What do you think this smiley represents?

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a355/terri910/melted.gif


Botox is only a temporary fix?

[smyrna]

Good morning everyone! Time to rock n roll. We are quickly coming to the half way mark of February. Is time flying by or what? I've got a theory about that...when you go from 1 to 2, your time on earth, doubled. 10 to 11, that year represented 10% of your life. 49 to 50, around 2% of your life, so...each year represents a smaller percentage of your life's history, therefore time seems to go by faster each year.

Hope everyone has a super day!

[Meriweather]

Good morning everyone! Time to rock n roll. We are quickly coming to the half way mark of February. Is time flying by or what? I've got a theory about that...when you go from 1 to 2, your time on earth, doubled. 10 to 11, that year represented 10% of your life. 49 to 50, around 2% of your life, so...each year represents a smaller percentage of your life's history, therefore time seems to go by faster each year.

Hope everyone has a super day!

Thanks smyrna. What a great theory on why time flies faster each year!

I'll join you in wishing the Forum a beautiful morning. (Singing softly so that Koushi remains mellow.)

<Oh What a Beautiful Morning> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ejcwl1Gk0s&feature=related)

[Hadassah]

"I’m out of it for a little while and everyone gets delusions of grandeur!”
Han Solo - Star Wars VI: Return of the Jedi



Howdy ya'll.

(He's baacckkk.)

;)


RAY!!!!!!!!! :hug: :hug: :hug:

[RayMan]

RAY!!!!!!!!! :hug: :hug: :hug:



Hey. :mrgreen:

[Hadassah]

Hey. :mrgreen:

That was my "Jump out of my chair and give you a bone crushing hug" kind of hug. Hope I didn't hurt your ribs too much. :shifty::mrgreen:

[RayMan]

That was my "Jump out of my chair and give you a bone crushing hug" kind of hug. Hope I didn't hurt your ribs too much. :shifty::mrgreen:

I liked it. The cushions helped to keep the pain down.

[vir doctus]

Walt Whitman’s Caution
Walt Whitman

TO The States, or any one of them, or any city of The States, Resist much, obey
little;
Once unquestioning obedience, once fully enslaved;
Once fully enslaved, no nation, state, city, of this earth, ever afterward resumes its
liberty.

[Meriweather]

Walt Whitman’s Caution
Walt Whitman

TO The States, or any one of them, or any city of The States, Resist much, obey
little;
Once unquestioning obedience, once fully enslaved;
Once fully enslaved, no nation, state, city, of this earth, ever afterward resumes its
liberty.

A dichotomy of, "At heart we are one nation, one people."


ETA: Just occurred to me (in light of recent discussions in this thread) to note no discussion is intended here; just light, passing, fellowship conversation and then moving on.

[Meriweather]

Morning Devotional

Jesus went to the district of Tyre. He entered a house and wanted no one to know about it, but he could not escape notice. Soon a woman whose daughter had an unclean spirit heard about him. She came and fell at his feet. The woman was a Greek, a Syro-Phoenician by birth, and she begged him to drive the demon out of her daughter. He said to her, “Let the children be fed first. For it is not right to take the food of the children and throw it to the dogs.” She replied and said to him, “Lord, even the dogs under the table eat the children’s scraps.” Then he said to her, “For saying this, you may go. The demon has gone out of your daughter.” When the woman went home, she found the child lying in bed and the demon gone. (Mark 7:24-30)

1. Seek Higher Gifts

Our Lord is close to us in our sufferings. In this Gospel, a daughter suffered from a demonic possession, and her mother suffered with her. What most strikes us about this passage, however, is that Our Lord initially adds to the mother’s suffering by rebuking her. It seems so out of character, so foreign to the one who is “meek and humble of heart,” so unlike the gentle Jesus who is ever-sensitive to the needs of others. Yet Our Lord was about to confer upon her the greatest gift that could befall any human being: the gift of salvation represented by the healing of her daughter. Because the gift was so great, the vessel that was to contain it needed to be prepared.

2. Feelings, Nothing More Than Feelings

It is important to remember two principles about our feelings. First, we are not to treat them as if they were the infallible compass of our spiritual lives. Second, their lack of support does not mean that Our Lord is abandoning us. We can easily forget these two principles and blindly follow our feelings, persuasions and seductions. We can wrongly confuse feelings with faith. This believing woman beautifully shows the attitude we must maintain. Her example of humility in the face of Jesus’ seemingly hostile rebuke truly astounds us. No rebellion, no complaints, no resentments, no pity party. She remains determinedly fixed on Christ. She maintains a spirit of humility and faith in him who has the power to deliver her daughter from the devil. Am I capable of persisting in my prayer even when it seems Our Lord is turning a deaf ear?

3. A Cathedral of Faith for All to See

If only we could learn from the Syro-Phoenician woman’s example! With such a firm foundation to build on, Jesus draws out of her an even greater faith — as large as a cathedral for the entire world to see. We need to ponder and contemplate the mysterious and wise ways of Our Lord when we suffer from his rebukes. We must hold fast to humility, mindful that we are creatures always loved by Christ, our Good Shepherd. He promised he would not leave us orphans. Why then such little faith? Let us not confuse faith with feelings. Let us not confuse trust with mere sentiment. Let’s never reduce our relationship with Jesus to feelings, no matter how pleasurable or worthy they may seem at the moment.

Catholic.net

[vir doctus]

A dichotomy of, "At heart we are one nation, one people."

What is liberty?

In Christian terms, what would it mean to God if He enslaved us against our will?

In Star Trek terms, is an efficient, flawless Borg superior to the flawed, willful humans?

[noelle12]

I'm going to enjoy a day of (relative) peace and quiet as the dog is at the groomers for the day getting a much needed haircut.

[Meriweather]

What is liberty?

In Christian terms, what would it mean to God if He enslaved us against our will?

In Star Trek terms, is an efficient, flawless Borg superior to the flawed, willful humans?

I am thinking more in terms of united we stand; divided we fall. Biblically, one shepherd, one flock; and Jesus' prayer that we remain one as he and the Father are one.

Flawed, willful humans love liberty. It is our very willfulness that can imprison us. While many of the commandments begin, "Thou shalt not..." the intent is to free us from chains that bind into liberty. Not lying frees us to live in truth, for example.

As for the Borg, I am told even the Borg would refuse to assimilate me.

[Meriweather]

I'm going to enjoy a day of (relative) peace and quiet as the dog is at the groomers for the day getting a much needed haircut.

You'll have to come back and note the hour when you look around and think, "The house feels too empty."

[vir doctus]

I am thinking more in terms of united we stand; divided we fall. Biblically, one shepherd, one flock; and Jesus' prayer that we remain one as he and the Father are one.


Prayer, not prison.

[noelle12]

You'll have to come back and note the hour when you look around and think, "The house feels too empty."

Oh, I miss him when he's gone, and my daughter definitely misses him. That being said, one day of not listening to him bark at every leaf, squirrel and pedestrian that he sees out the window is nice. I'll be happy when he's home again.

P.S. Already I notice his absence. He really is a good boy.

[Meriweather]

Prayer, not prison.

I am more of the mind that we imprison ourselves. Sometimes we see bars where there are none. Remember how Peter walked out of prison. He got up and he walked out.

Can you direct your dreams at night? If something is chasing you, can you turn around and chase it? If you have a dream where you seem to be running in slow motion, can you simply place yourself at your destination? I do that all the time; I very seldom have a bad dream I cannot direct my way out of.

I find life is very much the same. I walk out of that which imprisons me; concentrate on my destination, not on that which slows me, and the like.

There is very little to resist when one just goes ahead and does. Prison bars do not exist for those who will not acknowledge them.

[meggers49]

Thanks smyrna. What a great theory on why time flies faster each year!

I'll join you in wishing the Forum a beautiful morning. (Singing softly so that Koushi remains mellow.)

<Oh What a Beautiful Morning> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ejcwl1Gk0s&feature=related)

not for nothing but WOW!! Hugh Jackman?? who would have thunk he had such a voice!!! someone find me a fan :mrgreen:

[vir doctus]

I am more of the mind that we imprison ourselves. Sometimes we see bars where there are none. Remember how Peter walked out of prison. He got up and he walked out.


I agree. We imprison ourselves when we let others tell us what we can and cannot do.

[meggers49]

I am thinking more in terms of united we stand; divided we fall. Biblically, one shepherd, one flock; and Jesus' prayer that we remain one as he and the Father are one.

Flawed, willful humans love liberty. It is our very willfulness that can imprison us. While many of the commandments begin, "Thou shalt not..." the intent is to free us from chains that bind into liberty. Not lying frees us to live in truth, for example.

As for the Borg, I am told even the Borg would refuse to assimilate me.

ah......but resistance is futile.....and what is the option?

a serious cunundrum since we are facing a choice like that in our near future i think. actually, I think we're facing that choice on many issues. It starts small, and grows.

When the time comes, for whom will you choose?

"As for me and my house, We will serve the Lord".

Never have these words meant so much to me.

[Hadassah]

Did you guys hear about the tornado in Hawaii?!?!

[RayMan]

Did you guys hear about the tornado in Hawaii?!?!

Is that the one that starts,

"So a tornado walks into a bar in Oahu and...?"

[vir doctus]

Visually deficient Russian Princess the Short has come across a career interest to replace her Coast Guard longings. :dance:

[RayMan]

Visually deficient Russian Princess the Short has come across a career interest to replace her Coast Guard longings. :dance:

And........

[vir doctus]

Now, who said Honourable CID could be occupied when I need his expertise? :rolleyes:

[RayMan]

Now, who said Honourable CID could be occupied when I need his expertise? :rolleyes:

I think he, Mrs CID and the CIDettes are busy moving into their new home today.

[vir doctus]

And........

And what? :angel:



OK - FBI. Probably up her alley since she has already, at the age of ten, read every Sherlock Holmes story, is heartless, and is afraid of nothing... That's my girl. :shifty:

[vir doctus]

I think he, Mrs CID and the CIDettes are busy moving into their new home today.

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Fine. I'll do my own work.

[RayMan]

And what? :angel:



OK - FBI. Probably up her alley since she has already, at the age of ten, read every Sherlock Holmes story, is heartless, and is afraid of nothing... That's my girl. :shifty:

Excellent.

So she knows of the curious incident of the dog in the night-time?

[Hadassah]

And what? :angel:



OK - FBI. Probably up her alley since she has already, at the age of ten, read every Sherlock Holmes story, is heartless, and is afraid of nothing... That's my girl. :shifty:


Your daughter rocks!!!!!:dance:

[vir doctus]

The speed boat from China just landed and I am now 40 pounds heavier. I am going to have the hottest legs ever. :angel:

[Hadassah]

Is that the one that starts,

"So a tornado walks into a bar in Oahu and...?"

lol, no.


There was a tornado in Hawaii today. An extremely rare occurance.


Between 1/1/50 and 10/31/08, there have been 37 tornadoes in Hawaii. That's about 0.64 tornadoes/year.

[vir doctus]

Excellent.

So she knows of the curious incident of the dog in the night-time?

Dude, I have no clue. The children are voracious readers. One homeschooling mother said, "Never let your child read a book you haven't read." Call me a bad mother because I have neither the desire nor the ability to do that. The youngest girl is reading Out of the Silent Planet and Jr. is rereading the Trumpet of the Swan.

[Meriweather]

I agree. We imprison ourselves when we let others tell us what we can and cannot do.

You will have to be more specific than that. I would say this is definitely a case-by-case basis. For example, vir, do you believe we should follow traffic regulatiions?

If everyone follows traffic regulations, the likelihood is that we will be less imprisoned in traffic jams and accidents.

I believe it is worthwhile to keep an eye on the greater good of all, not just the greater good of me.

[Meriweather]

And what? :angel:



OK - FBI. Probably up her alley since she has already, at the age of ten, read every Sherlock Holmes story, is heartless, and is afraid of nothing... That's my girl. :shifty:

One of the first things my brother would tell her (as he told a nephew) is to be aware that a lot of work goes into meticulously preparing a case that a high-priced lawyer is going to do his best to overturn. He says while it may be easy enough to break a case, it is an entirely different story when it comes to convictions and getting the bad people off the streets. Nothing annoys him more than agents who will not follow through with working on the details and papers needed to get that conviction. He would also tell her that not even FBI agents can save the world--or even a corner of it.

[vir doctus]

You will have to be more specific than that. I would say this is definitely a case-by-case basis. For example, vir, do you believe we should follow traffic regulatiions?

If everyone follows traffic regulations, the likelihood is that we will be less imprisoned in traffic jams and accidents.

I believe it is worthwhile to keep an eye on the greater good of all, not just the greater good of me.

Should traffic laws never be broken?

[Meriweather]

Should traffic laws never be broken?

Before any rule is broken, you have to be clear on why you are breaking the rule, the benefit that is derived from breaking the rule--and the cost to whom.

[vir doctus]

Before any rule is broken, you have to be clear on why you are breaking the rule, the benefit that is derived from breaking the rule--and the cost to whom.

So they can be broken?

[terri910]

So they can be broken?
Apparently they can be broken. I think I witnessed the end result of one being broken this morning on the way to work (flashing lights on a patrol car that had pulled someone over on the highway)!

[RayMan]

Apparently they can be broken. I think I witnessed the end result of one being broken this morning on the way to work (flashing lights on a patrol car that had pulled someone over on the highway)!

Sounds like one at least got bent...

[vir doctus]

Apparently they can be broken. I think I witnessed the end result of one being broken this morning on the way to work (flashing lights on a patrol car that had pulled someone over on the highway)!

Broken with your approval?

[Meriweather]

So they can be broken?

Here is the situation, vir. I break rules/laws all of the time. It's been a habit for me as far back as I can remember. Rules and laws are in place for a purpose. The problem is that while many rules do come in a "One size fits all" category, many times they don't. Before bypassing any rule, one has to understand the purpose of the rule, what it is supposed to do; why it not working for a specific person given specific circumstances; what is the most law abiding version of the rule that can be expected; AND who is going to take it on the chin when the rule is bent or broken.

I believe the number one rule for breaking rules is that I'm either the one who takes it on the chin, or I don't break the rule.

[smyrna]

Here is the situation, vir. I break rules/laws all of the time. It's been a habit for me as far back as I can remember. Rules and laws are in place for a purpose. The problem is that while many rules do come in a "One size fits all" category, many times they don't. Before bypassing any rule, one has to understand the purpose of the rule, what it is supposed to do; why it not working for a specific person given specific circumstances; what is the most law abiding version of the rule that can be expected; AND who is going to take it on the chin when the rule is bent or broken.

I believe the number one rule for breaking rules is that I'm either the one who takes it on the chin, or I don't break the rule.

Good morning. Let's not forget, 'who is enforcing the rule', also plays a part in the thought process. Like you Meriweather, I too am a rule breaker...but do not want anyone to pay a price for my reward.

Hope everyone has an outstanding day...aaaaaaaahhhhhhhh...it is Friday!

[Hadassah]

Let us keep those in the horrific plane crash in Buffalo, NY, their families and friends, the firefighters, police, and EMTs/paramedics, and anyone else affected by it, in our prayers. :cry::pray:

[Meriweather]

Let us keep those in the horrific plane crash in Buffalo, NY, their families and friends, the firefighters, police, and EMTs/paramedics, and anyone else affected by it, in our prayers. :cry::pray:

Amen.

[Meriweather]

Good morning. Let's not forget, 'who is enforcing the rule', also plays a part in the thought process. Like you Meriweather, I too am a rule breaker...but do not want anyone to pay a price for my reward.

Hope everyone has an outstanding day...aaaaaaaahhhhhhhh...it is Friday!


I suppose we should not forget those who enforce the rules; I have a habit of cutting them out of the loop. Generally speaking however, those who enforce the rules (after going a round or two) are quite happy to leave me alone. Their time is better spent elsewhere, where people are being hurt by those breaking the rule, not on those being helped by the rule break.

[vir doctus]

Here is the situation, vir. I break rules/laws all of the time. It's been a habit for me as far back as I can remember. Rules and laws are in place for a purpose. The problem is that while many rules do come in a "One size fits all" category, many times they don't. Before bypassing any rule, one has to understand the purpose of the rule, what it is supposed to do; why it not working for a specific person given specific circumstances; what is the most law abiding version of the rule that can be expected; AND who is going to take it on the chin when the rule is bent or broken.

I believe the number one rule for breaking rules is that I'm either the one who takes it on the chin, or I don't break the rule.

"Everything is permissible —but not everything is beneficial. Everything is permissible —but not everything is constructive. Nobody should seek his own good, but the good of others." 1 Cor. 10

[Meriweather]

"Everything is permissible —but not everything is beneficial. Everything is permissible —but not everything is constructive. Nobody should seek his own good, but the good of others." 1 Cor. 10

Yes and no. I understand what this passage is saying, and for the most part agree with it. However, the point I am trying to make is that I am a great believer in rules. For example, rules basketball rules prevent someone, during a game, from leaving the basketball court, running the ball to a football field and throwing it through the uprights. Rules prevent free-for-alls. Everything is NOT permissible; Paul has context.

[Meriweather]

Morning Devotional


Do not be mismatched with unbelievers. For what partnership is there between righteousness and lawlessness? Or what fellowship is there between light and darkness? (2 Corinthians 6.14)

D. T. Niles told of a member of his congregation whom he met on the street one day. She had been active once but in recent months drifted away. She told Niles that after suffering numerous personal and family problems God had become distant to her. She felt she had lost contact with him.

This was how Niles answered her: "Not only now but even in the future, there will always be times when God seems distant; when it looks as if God has forgotten and does not care; when prayers go unanswered and life is difficult. And at such times you must learn to hold on to your fellow Christians. Your difficulty is that you tried to hold on to God alone, and man was never intended to hold on to God alone."

We all need Christian fellowship and support.

devotions.net

[vir doctus]

Everything is NOT permissible;

I disagree.

[Meriweather]

I disagree.

Are we on the same page on how we are defining permissible?

Examples of the point I'm coming from:

Do you wish to try and resume our Lincoln/secession debate in this thread?

Is tackling permissible in a volleyball game?

[RayMan]

I disagree.

So, can we agree to being disagreeable?

[vir doctus]

Do you wish to try and resume our Lincoln/secession debate in this thread?

Just waiting for you to post something I can respond to.

Is tackling permissible in a volleyball game?

You would greatly appreciate me tackling you during the volleyball game if an irate fan just threw a glass bottle at your head because you whiffed your last spike.

[Yes, I am being serious.]

[vir doctus]

So, can we agree to being disagreeable?

Brilliant as a seven watt bulb. :angel:

[meggers49]

I suppose we should not forget those who enforce the rules; I have a habit of cutting them out of the loop. Generally speaking however, those who enforce the rules (after going a round or two) are quite happy to leave me alone. Their time is better spent elsewhere, where people are being hurt by those breaking the rule, not on those being helped by the rule break.

What about the rules you make that get broken? Like the ones for your kids or your students or your spouse?? Are those rules ok to break because they don't suit the person breaking them at the moment and they see a greater good?

Who's to say that the person enforcing that rule isn't helping someone? Stopping a speeder could be preventing the person who isn't following the rule from causing a terrible accident.

It doesn't seem reasonable that the rules should count, but not for you because you don't see them as necessary at the moment and have a 'greater good' in mind.

I break the rules too, i don't argue that point. And i justify it too. That doesn't change the fact that it's wrong. you might not agree, but that's immaterial. While it's a litertarian way to think.....we are not a libertarian society. To be so, we must be a moral society, concerned that our liberty doesn't infringe on others. Most people are not moral enough to care about that. While you may be, the law and rules of this land are not written with caveats that Meri (or Meg) is excluded because she's a basically good person.

[RayMan]

Just waiting for you to post something I can respond to.

You would greatly appreciate me tackling you during the volleyball game if an irate fan just threw a glass bottle at your head because you whiffed your last spike.

[Yes, I am being serious.]

I had no idea you were such a jock.

[RayMan]

Brilliant as a seven watt bulb. :angel:

Ah, dark humor. How droll.

[buflineks]

Ah, dark humor. How droll.

dude, why did you have to bring math into this?

Math sucks.

[RayMan]

dude, why did you have to bring math into this?

Math sucks.

I blame vir.

[vir doctus]

I had no idea you were such a jock.

Thank you for not misspelling that word; captain of the college soccer team, college volleyball, high school softball and basketball.

[vir doctus]

I blame vir.

As you should, it is meet and right so to do.

[Fire Watch]

dude, why did you have to bring math into this?

Math sucks.
34y³ -(xy/12x + 11x²)² < or = -12xy² -64/43x(12xy+31³)

[RayMan]

That's it. I'm going downstairs to Louie's for a spot of liquid refreshment.

[Fire Watch]

Tell Louie I said "hey".

[RayMan]

Tell Louie I said "hey".

I'll tell Cindy. Louie probably won't be there.

[vir doctus]

I'll tell Cindy. Louie probably won't be there.

Who

[RayMan]

Who

Exactly.

[vir doctus]

Exactly.

You've got friends in low places.

[RayMan]

You've got friends in low places.

It's not nice to talk about CID when he isn't here to speak up for himself.




And at his height, or lack of same, he is always speaking up. ^^

[vir doctus]

And at his height, or lack of same, he is always speaking up. ^^

Might be time to change the avatar, I'm afraid we may be losing Honourable RayMan.

[RayMan]

Might be time to change the avatar, I'm afraid we may be losing Honourable RayMan.

Naw...That was just a 24-hour ban. I'm all better now. :dance:

[CID_0687]

It's not nice to talk about CID when he isn't here to speak up for himself.




And at his height, or lack of same, he is always speaking up. ^^
:mad:

[RayMan]

:mad:

I'm sorry.



Could you speak up a little bit?

[CID_0687]

I'm sorry.



Could you speak up a little bit?
We're moved into the apartment....our furniture, and washer and dryer were delivered this morning...and the best part of all.............................












I have high speed internet again!! :dance:

I can finally start feeding my YouTube addiction again!!

[RayMan]

We're moved into the apartment....our furniture, and washer and dryer were delivered this morning...and the best part of all.............................


I have high speed internet again!! :dance:

I can finally start feeding my YouTube addiction again!!

Congrats. Happy for you and your femmes.

[CID_0687]

Congrats. Happy for you and your femmes.
Thank you, thank you very much.

You know...after being here for four months and staying in two different hotels that boasted "high speed internet" that was as slow as dial up...I was afraid to know what these hillbillies call dial up....I'm glad to learn that this was all justa bad dream.

[terri910]

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a355/terri910/wheee.gif

TGIF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[RayMan]

Thank you, thank you very much.

You know...after being here for four months and staying in two different hotels that boasted "high speed internet" that was as slow as dial up...I was afraid to know what these hillbillies call dial up....I'm glad to learn that this was all justa bad dream.

Somebody had probably made a knot in the line at the router. That cuts down your internet speed. Like when you squeeze a garden hose and the water just trickles out,

[meggers49]

Thank you for not misspelling that word; captain of the college soccer team, college volleyball, high school softball and basketball.

versus Jacque? or as in Jockette??

[meggers49]

34y³ -(xy/12x + 11x²)² < or = -12xy² -64/43x(12xy+31³)

drat you for putting these up when i have someplace to go!

i'll do it later.

[terri910]

I'm the only one that has time to be feisty on Fridays, it seems....

[RayMan]

The heck you say!